problem with brand new Dell Precision R7610 workstation and Fedora 19

Hi all, I've been asked to set up a Dell R7610 workstation dual booting windows 8 and Fedora 19. The machine in question has a Xeon E5-2687W with 20MB L2, 128 Gig of ram, and 4 x 10k hard disk which I've put into a stiped RAID 0 array using the onboard "Integrated: LSI 2308 6Gb/s SATA, SAS

F19: dmesg - polluted by systemd logs

I've just noticed that after reloading systemd-journald.service "kernel ring buffer" contains messages not generated by kernel. In my opinion, this is unexpected behavior and I was surprised that dmesg, returns lines generated by something that is not kernel or kernel module. Now, I see, there is

Re: Proposal: Fedora should install with IPv6 disabled by default [was: Re: Disabling ipv6]

On Mon, 15 Jul 2013, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 15.07.2013 23:19, schrieb Michael Hennebry: On Sun, 14 Jul 2013, Reindl Harald wrote: the problem is that *three* sorts of evangelists hijacked the original thread and changed multiple times the topic If they changed the subject line accordingly,

Re: importance of upgradeability (was: Re: Why should one upgrade Fedora whenever a new version is released?)

On Tue, 16 Jul 2013, lee wrote: Michael Hennebry writes: On Mon, 15 Jul 2013, lee wrote: In my case, I found Fedora very expensive to upgrade. That I can understand --- upgrading twice a year, especially when it's questionable if the upgrade works --- can be painful, all the more when yo

(sorry, txt only version) Problem with brand new Dell Precision R7610 workstation and Fedora 19

Hi all, I've been asked to set up a Dell R7610 workstation dual booting windows 8 and Fedora 19. The machine in question has a Xeon E5-2687W with 20MB L2, 128 Gig of ram, and 4 x 10k hard disk which I've put into a stiped RAID 0 array using the onboard "Integrated: LSI 2308 6Gb/s SATA, SAS cont

Re: Fedora 19 Boxes

On 16.07.2013 08:29, Roger wrote: > Noticed in F18 and now Fedora 19 a tool called Boxes. Is this a > Virtualisation tool? Is it like VMware, etc. Does it work Ok? Does > anyone use it? What results were seen? Is it Good or Bad or indifferent? > Google doesn't help at all. > > Can someone please e

Re: Why once 'umlaut+black rectangle' and once '?+?'

On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 06:09:35AM -0400, Tom Horsley wrote: > > Why does the "unicode bug" get expressed in 2 different ways > > on 2 different laptops: > I've seen it both ways on the same machine. Once when it > appears in the grub menu (? and ?) and once when it is > printed in the boot mes

i can't install Fedora 14

Hi, I have a multiboot system which contain Fedora 18. I try to install Fedora 14, but when i boot and i choose the seconde option of the boot menu, the screen become dark and i haven't the installation process. I try the same install DVD in another PC and it seems ok. Could help me. Thank

Re: i can't install Fedora 14

Hi, Not surely clear why, but if you have F18, why you need a highly outdated, and unsupported Fedora 14 version? Zoltan 2013/7/16 Skander Bahloul : > Hi, > > I have a multiboot system which contain Fedora 18. I try to install Fedora > 14, but when i boot and i choose the seconde option of the

Re: Why once 'umlaut+black rectangle' and once '?+?'

On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 01:21:15AM +0930, Tim wrote: > Allegedly, on or about 15 July 2013, Alexander Volovics sent: > > Why does the "unicode bug" get expressed in 2 different ways > > on 2 different laptops: > > > > On a Dell Inspiron laptop as: "Schr?dinger?s Cat" (?+?) > > On a Lenovo Thinkpa

Re: Why once 'umlaut+black rectangle' and once '?+?'

On 07/16/13 16:23, Alexander Volovics wrote: > On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 01:21:15AM +0930, Tim wrote: > >> Allegedly, on or about 15 July 2013, Alexander Volovics sent: >>> Why does the "unicode bug" get expressed in 2 different ways >>> on 2 different laptops: >>> >>> On a Dell Inspiron laptop as: "

Re: Transmission daemon not starting in Fedora 19

Hi Rahul, On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 11:14:29AM +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 07/16/13 10:37, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > > On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 7:25 PM, Suvayu Ali > > wrote: > > > > I'm having trouble starting transmission-daemon. When I try to start it > >

Re: Transmission daemon not starting in Fedora 19

On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 07:52:33AM +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 07/16/13 07:25, Suvayu Ali wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I'm having trouble starting transmission-daemon. When I try to start it > > with systemctl, it hangs: > > > > # systemctl start transmission-daemon.service > > > > If I let it be fo

Re: problem with brand new Dell Precision R7610 workstation and Fedora 19

Franki writes: > Hi all, > > I've been asked to set up a Dell R7610 workstation dual booting > windows 8 and Fedora 19. > > The machine in question has a Xeon E5-2687W with 20MB L2, 128 Gig of > ram, and 4 x 10k hard disk which I've put into a stiped RAID 0 array > using the onboard "Integrated:

Re: importance of upgradeability

Michael Hennebry writes: > On Tue, 16 Jul 2013, lee wrote: > >> Michael Hennebry writes: >> On Mon, 15 Jul 2013, lee wrote: >> >>> In my case, I found Fedora very expensive to upgrade. >> >> That I can understand --- upgrading twice a year, especially when >> it's questionable if the upgrad

Re: install /boot with encrypted partition

On 16.07.2013, j.witvl...@mindef.nl wrote: > The /boot partition must of course remain unencrypted, otherwise you > can't boot your encrypted system at all. > Are you sure about that? > Afaicr grub2 was supposed to be able to have /boot inside the encrypted area. > (there still remains some unen

Re: i can't install Fedora 14

Skander Bahloul writes: > I have a multiboot system which contain Fedora 18. I try to install > Fedora 14, but when i boot and i choose the seconde option of the boot > menu, the screen become dark and i haven't the installation process. If you told us what the second boot option is and what har

Re: Etiquette and changing of threads

Reindl Harald writes: > Am 16.07.2013 03:49, schrieb lee: >> Reindl Harald writes: >> >>> the real problem is thread-view >> >> Perhaps you'd be happier with a different MUA. You seem to be using >> something similar to the MUA built into seamonkey. I have always found >> it totally unsuited

Re: F19: dmesg - polluted by systemd logs

On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 09:12:04AM +0200, Mateusz Marzantowicz wrote: > I've just noticed that after reloading systemd-journald.service "kernel > ring buffer" contains messages not generated by kernel. In my opinion, > this is unexpected behavior and I was surprised that dmesg, returns > lines gene

install Driver kernel Nvidia in Fedora 14

Hi, I try to install driver kernel NVIDIA in Fedora 14 but i don't mqnqge to do it. Could you help me to intall Quadro 2000 NVIDIA driver kermnel with linux command. Info: I use 64 bit machine. Thank you very much. Best regards, -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubs

Fw: : driver for 9621 (Re: USB LAN adapter)

Hi, I did get this in response to my e-mail to davicom.com.tw -- it appears to be from the same Joseph Chang who posted the driver that poma also found. He wants feedback. I will see what to do with this rar file. Thanks, Ranjan Begin forwarded message: Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2013 15:36:07 +0800 Fr

Re: USB Lan Adapter

Thanks! Good to know about this, and also that it exists in under GPL. Should be possible to include in Fedora then perhaps? Ranjan On Tue, 16 Jul 2013 08:45:03 +0200 poma wrote: > On 16.07.2013 02:39, Ranjan Maitra wrote: > > Hello, > > > > My Dell XPS 13 is one of those without an ethernet o

Re: install Driver kernel Nvidia in Fedora 14

On 16 July 2013 11:28, Skander Bahloul wrote: > Hi, > > I try to install driver kernel NVIDIA in Fedora 14 but i don't mqnqge to do > it. > > > Could you help me to intall Quadro 2000 NVIDIA driver kermnel with linux > command. > > Info: I use 64 bit machine. > > > Thank you very much. > Hi, wh

Re: Fwd: OpenJDK packaging bug in Fedora 19

On 07/11/2013 07:14 PM, Fernando Lozano wrote: Hi Jiri, Luckily (or not? - because it passed update test) this do not happen always. And unluckily this was bugged after the f19 freeze - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=979128 I think I will abandon whole update alternatives proces

sssd for /boot?

On the point of replacing some disks. What would people think of these for a /boot, / combo? There's lots in web searchland re "ssd writes lifespan" https://tinyurl.com/ohbkkyj (komplett) -- Regards, Frank "When in doubt PANIC!" I check for new mail app. 20min www.frankly3d.com -- users maili

hostapd and fedora19 wifi hotspot

Hello, on my laptop (Asus U36sd) I had fedora 17 and configured hostapd setting bridge on virbr0 and using wpa2. Reinstalled in fedora 19 with same settings (only changed name of wlan interface) apparently this doesn't work with this same hw. I get: nl80211: Failed to set interface wlp3s0 into AP m

Re: F19: dmesg - polluted by systemd logs

Hi On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 3:12 AM, Mateusz Marzantowicz wrote: > I've just noticed that after reloading systemd-journald.service "kernel > ring buffer" contains messages not generated by kernel. In my opinion, > this is unexpected behavior and I was surprised that dmesg, returns > lines genera

Re: Transmission daemon not starting in Fedora 19

Hi On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 4:33 AM, Suvayu Ali wrote: > Hi Rahul, > > That said, now transmission-remote-cli does not work (incompatible > protocol versions). I believe there is a new version of > transmission-remote-cli[2] that supports the > change[3].

Re: USB Lan Adapter

> > BuildRequires: kernel-devel > > $ ls > dm9620.c Makefile > $ make > $ su > # make install > > > poma > > > Ref. > http://marc.info/?l=linux-netdev&m=137173085617601 > Trying this out, it appears that I fail right away: $ make make -C /lib/modules/3.9.9-302.fc19.x86_64/build M=/home/ma

Re: hostapd and fedora19 wifi hotspot

On Tue, 16 Jul 2013 15:26:23 +0200 Gianluca Cecchi wrote: > 1) Any hint to have hostapd running in f19 or making further debug > actions? I have been running hostapd successfully for a while going from f18 to f19, so I don't think anything fundamental changed, sounds like the new kernel drivers d

Re: Etiquette In Regard To Long Verbose Off Charter Threads?

Allegedly, on or about 16 July 2013, Patrick O'Callaghan sent: > not posting in HTML ... (ducks) Is that HTML ducks 1.0 or 1.2? -- All mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted, there is no point trying to privately email me, I will only read messages posted to the public lists. -- users

Re: Etiquette In Regard To Long Verbose Off Charter Threads?

On 16 July 2013 15:11, Tim wrote: > Allegedly, on or about 16 July 2013, Patrick O'Callaghan sent: >> not posting in HTML ... (ducks) > > Is that HTML ducks 1.0 or 1.2? > http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd";> -- imalone http://ibmalone.blogspot.co.uk -- users mailing list

Re: sssd for /boot?

Frank Murphy writes: > On the point of replacing some disks. > What would people think of these for a /boot, / combo? > There's lots in web searchland re "ssd writes lifespan" > > https://tinyurl.com/ohbkkyj (komplett) You can get away with a 32GB disk for /boot, /usr, /usr/local and the root fs

Re: sssd for /boot?

On Tue, 16 Jul 2013 16:41:49 +0200 lee wrote: > Frank Murphy writes: > > > On the point of replacing some disks. > > What would people think of these for a /boot, / combo? > > There's lots in web searchland re "ssd writes lifespan" > > > > https://tinyurl.com/ohbkkyj (komplett) > > You can get

Re: [389-users] 389 directory server crash

On 07/16/2013 01:23 AM, Mitja Mihelič wrote: On 07/15/2013 05:28 PM, Rich Megginson wrote: On 07/15/2013 02:57 AM, Mitja Mihelič wrote: On 07/12/2013 05:55 PM, Rich Megginson wrote: On 07/12/2013 08:22 AM, Mitja Mihelič wrote: On 07/09/2013 03:34 PM, Rich Megginson wrote: On 07/09/2013 06:43

Re: hostapd and fedora19 wifi hotspot

On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 3:26 PM, Gianluca Cecchi wrote: > Hello, > on my laptop (Asus U36sd) I had fedora 17 and configured hostapd > setting bridge on virbr0 and using wpa2. > Reinstalled in fedora 19 with same settings (only changed name of wlan > interface) apparently this doesn't work with thi

Re: USB Lan Adapter

On 16.07.2013 16:02, Ranjan Maitra wrote: >> >> BuildRequires: kernel-devel >> >> $ ls >> dm9620.c Makefile >> $ make >> $ su >> # make install >> >> >> poma >> >> >> Ref. >> http://marc.info/?l=linux-netdev&m=137173085617601 >> > > Trying this out, it appears that I fail right away: > > $ make

Re: importance of upgradeability

Hi, In my case, I found Fedora very expensive to upgrade. >>> That I can understand --- upgrading twice a year, especially when >>> it's questionable if the upgrade works --- can be painful, all the more >>> when you have many machines to upgrade. It gave me a lot to worry about >>> even wit

Re: ZoneMinder and ffmpeg

Hi Tim, > On Mon, 2013-07-15 at 13:33 -0300, Fernando Lozano wrote: >> Because the zoneminder package for Fedora will store only JPEG files, >> it uses up too much disk space and I can store only a a couple days. > CRON job to compile a daily movie out of the JPEGs, then delete them > afterwards?

Re: Fw: : driver for 9621 (Re: USB LAN adapter)

On 16.07.2013 13:48, Ranjan Maitra wrote: > Hi, > > I did get this in response to my e-mail to davicom.com.tw -- it appears > to be from the same Joseph Chang who posted the driver that poma also > found. He wants feedback. I will see what to do with this rar file. > > Thanks, > Ranjan > > Begi

Re: hostapd and fedora19 wifi hotspot

On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 5:18 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: > > > Am 16.07.2013 17:14, schrieb Gianluca Cecchi: >> Possibly NetworkManager that keeps wpa_supplicant running could >> interfere and prevent hostapd to set AP mode? >> >> [g.cecchi@ope46 ~]$ sudo systemctl status wpa_supplicant >> wpa_suppli

Re: Why should one upgrade Fedora whenever a new version is released?

Am 15.07.2013 20:55, schrieb lee: > James Hogarth writes: >> Vendors (including pure open source solutions backed by a vendor) will >> support a long term distribution but not something like fedora where the >> increase of cost for them to support it due to potentially massive changes >> every 6

Re: Transmission daemon not starting in Fedora 19

On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 10:01:31AM -0400, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 4:33 AM, Suvayu Ali wrote: > > > > That said, now transmission-remote-cli does not work (incompatible > > protocol versions). I believe there is a new version of > > transmission-remote-cli[2] that supports

Re: Why should one upgrade Fedora whenever a new version is released?

Am 16.07.2013 00:38, schrieb Bill Oliver: > On Mon, 15 Jul 2013, Michael Hennebry wrote: > >> [snip] >>> Unless I missed it, nobody has described a particular use case yet in >>> which it is obvious that it is good to use CentOS. Upgrading holds its >>> risks as well as using software that canno

Re: Proposal: Fedora should install with IPv6 disabled by default [was: Re: Disabling ipv6]

Am 15.07.2013 23:19, schrieb Michael Hennebry: > On Sun, 14 Jul 2013, Reindl Harald wrote: > >> the problem is that *three* sorts of evangelists hijacked >> the original thread and changed multiple times the topic > > If they changed the subject line accordingly, what is the problem? *tree vie

Re: what has 'yum update' done?

| From: Heinz Diehl | Only speaking for myself: I always try to upgrade first, having a | complete backup, of course. If it doesn't work, I reinstall. There's | nothing to loose, since I'm expecting to reinstall anyway. There is a risk: things can be subtly wrong, in such a way that you don't no

Re: [GW-C] [ECOTONE] Re: rant of the day: installing fedora

Am 15.07.2013 19:56, schrieb Richard Vickery: > On Sun, Jul 14, 2013 at 9:57 PM, lee wrote: >> Richard Vickery writes: If I had had disks with data on them when I tried out the installer, I wouldn't have clicked on that Done button, either. >>> >>> Why not install it and make partitio

Re: Etiquette and changing of threads

Am 16.07.2013 03:49, schrieb lee: > Reindl Harald writes: > >> the real problem is thread-view > > Perhaps you'd be happier with a different MUA. You seem to be using > something similar to the MUA built into seamonkey. I have always found > it totally unsuited for managing more than a very

Re: Proposal: Fedora should install with IPv6 disabled by default [was: Re: Disabling ipv6]

Am 16.07.2013 09:12, schrieb Michael Hennebry: > On Mon, 15 Jul 2013, Reindl Harald wrote: > >> Am 15.07.2013 23:19, schrieb Michael Hennebry: >>> On Sun, 14 Jul 2013, Reindl Harald wrote: >>> the problem is that *three* sorts of evangelists hijacked the original thread and changed mul

Re: USB Lan Adapter

On Tue, 16 Jul 2013 17:15:40 +0200 poma wrote: > On 16.07.2013 16:02, Ranjan Maitra wrote: > >> > >> BuildRequires: kernel-devel > >> > >> $ ls > >> dm9620.c Makefile > >> $ make > >> $ su > >> # make install > >> > >> > >> poma > >> > >> > >> Ref. > >> http://marc.info/?l=linux-netdev&m=1371730

a different point of view to "etiquette"

http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.kernel.stable/58049/focus%3D1525074 From: Linus Torvalds linux-foundation.org> Subject: Re: [ 00/19] 3.10.1-stable review Newsgroups: gmane.linux.kernel.stable, gmane.linux.kernel Date: 2013-07-15 18:17:06 GMT (19 hours and 12 minutes ago) On Mon, Jul 15, 201

Re: sssd for /boot?

Am 16.07.2013 16:51, schrieb Frank Murphy: > On Tue, 16 Jul 2013 16:41:49 +0200 > lee wrote: > >> Frank Murphy writes: >> >>> On the point of replacing some disks. >>> What would people think of these for a /boot, / combo? >>> There's lots in web searchland re "ssd writes lifespan" >>> >>> htt

Re: hostapd and fedora19 wifi hotspot

Am 16.07.2013 17:14, schrieb Gianluca Cecchi: > Possibly NetworkManager that keeps wpa_supplicant running could > interfere and prevent hostapd to set AP mode? > > [g.cecchi@ope46 ~]$ sudo systemctl status wpa_supplicant > wpa_supplicant.service - WPA Supplicant daemon >Loaded: loaded (/usr/

Re: partitioning (was: Re: [GW-C] [ECOTONE] Re: rant of the day: installing fedora)

On Jul 15, 2013 8:33 PM, "lee" wrote: > > Richard Vickery writes: > > > the installation program gives you everything you need to have an > > operational system; after you have it installed: > > > > fdisk > > > > is the command to create your much needed / loved partitions that the > > installer

Re: partitioning (was: Re: [GW-C] [ECOTONE] Re: rant of the day: installing fedora)

On Jul 15, 2013 9:56 PM, "Richard Vickery" wrote: > > > On Jul 15, 2013 8:33 PM, "lee" wrote: > > > > Richard Vickery writes: > > > > > the installation program gives you everything you need to have an > > > operational system; after you have it installed: > > > > > > fdisk > > > > > > is the co

Re: cultural differences affecting communication (Re: Etiquette and changing of threads)

> How do you let go of your cultural and other frames of reference and yet > figure out what a subject at hand is? I don't think that's possible and > that it's only possible to be more or less aware of these factors and to > try to somehow deal with them. > > Still, being a German, you can say

RE: Native Nvidia Optimus and Fedora 19

A re-post since I forgot HTML was on. Has anyone tried to get native Optimus running on a Fedora 19 box? When I attempt it, I get a blank black screen. I posted on the Nvidia forums, but no one has replied yet and I'm getting anxious ;-) The general consensus is that the kernel must be 3.9 or h

Re: partitioning

On 07/16/2013 06:56 AM, Richard Vickery wrote: I quit worrying about pre-partitioning a 15 years ago because there is no reason to do it anymore. I disagree - Could you elaborate what you makes you think this? Never had a system with multiple OSes installed in parallel? Never had a system with

Re: a different point of view to "etiquette"

Reindl Harald wrote: > http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.kernel.stable/58049/focus%3D1525074 > > From: Linus Torvalds linux-foundation.org> Linus is in a very special category, and I don't think his justifications can be applied to virtually any one else. Especially, not *here*. -- rex --

Re: USB Lan Adapter

On 16.07.2013 18:13, Ranjan Maitra wrote: > On Tue, 16 Jul 2013 17:15:40 +0200 poma > wrote: > >> On 16.07.2013 16:02, Ranjan Maitra wrote: BuildRequires: kernel-devel $ ls dm9620.c Makefile $ make $ su # make install poma Ref

Re: a different point of view to "etiquette"

On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 1:10 PM, Rex Dieter wrote: > Linus is in a very special category, and I don't think his justifications > can be applied to virtually any one else. Especially, not *here*. I support Linus' position. Which is related to my sig file. Sometimes telling the truth and being bl

Re: USB Lan Adapter

> >> > >> http://kojipkgs.fedoraproject.org/packages/kernel/3.10.0/1.fc20/x86_64/ > >> - kernel-3.10.0-1.fc20.x86_64.rpm > >> - kernel-devel-3.10.0-1.fc20.x86_64.rpm > >> - kernel-headers-3.10.0-1.fc20.x86_64.rpm > >> > >> > >> poma > > > > Does that mean that this will work in the 3.10+ kernel fr

Re: Why should one upgrade Fedora whenever a new version is released?

On 07/15/2013 06:00 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: > well, you better would be suited with a company giving you > remote access to your VM's console over a VPN A quick plug for Linode, which offers this. HOWEVER, if it's a server AND it's not just a personal thing, then you need to justify to your empl

Re: Etiquette In Regard To Long Verbose Off Charter Threads?

On Tue, 2013-07-16 at 23:41 +0930, Tim wrote: > Allegedly, on or about 16 July 2013, Patrick O'Callaghan sent: > > not posting in HTML ... (ducks) > > Is that HTML ducks 1.0 or 1.2? Either would be a canard. poc -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subsc

Re: USB Lan Adapter

On 16.07.2013 19:48, Ranjan Maitra wrote: http://kojipkgs.fedoraproject.org/packages/kernel/3.10.0/1.fc20/x86_64/ - kernel-3.10.0-1.fc20.x86_64.rpm - kernel-devel-3.10.0-1.fc20.x86_64.rpm - kernel-headers-3.10.0-1.fc20.x86_64.rpm poma >>> >>> Does that mean t

Re: a different point of view to "etiquette"

On Tue, 2013-07-16 at 13:22 -0400, Fernando Cassia wrote: > On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 1:10 PM, Rex Dieter wrote: > > Linus is in a very special category, and I don't think his justifications > > can be applied to virtually any one else. Especially, not *here*. > > I support Linus' position. Which

Re: a different point of view to "etiquette"

On Tue, 16 Jul 2013, Reindl Harald wrote: http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.kernel.stable/58049/focus%3D1525074 From: Linus Torvalds linux-foundation.org> Subject: Re: [ 00/19] 3.10.1-stable review Newsgroups: gmane.linux.kernel.stable, gmane.linux.kernel Date: 2013-07-15 18:17:06 GMT (19 ho

LPR GUI freeze in FC19

Hello, I just installed Fedora 19 and configured my Samsung 2525W laser printer. Whenever I print from acrobat reader, LPR GUI pops up and freezes. Eventually a popup comes up asking me if I want to close the window which isn't responding. How can I fix this? Thanks -- users mailing list use

perl-Math-GSL

Hello, The Package perl-Math-GSL does not seem to be available on a rpm packaging. What do you recommand? make an rpm or install it through the cpan installer? Thank === Patrick DUPRÉ                                 | | ema

Re: a different point of view to "etiquette"

On Tue, 16 Jul 2013, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 16.07.2013 20:47, schrieb Michael Hennebry: How about "Please don't do that. It won't work because "? besides the fact that people who do not spend one second to search and read docs they are anyways unable to understand a answer with backg

Re: a different point of view to "etiquette"

On 07/16/2013 02:21 PM, Michael Hennebry wrote: I'm not a great believer in subtlety either. I don't think that it's being subtle to say, "That's probably not a good idea because..." That's just telling somebody why their idea won't work instead of just saying, "Don't do that!" The first

Re: a different point of view to "etiquette"

Thank you Linus and others. As I see it, this discussion has little to do with culture, nations or ideologies and a lot to do with rubbishing another person or their ideas for what ever reason. We are all equal, some have more knowledge than others. Remember the goal. The only game in town is

Re: Fedora 19 Boxes

On 07/16/2013 05:29 PM, poma wrote: On 16.07.2013 08:29, Roger wrote: Noticed in F18 and now Fedora 19 a tool called Boxes. Is this a Virtualisation tool? Is it like VMware, etc. Does it work Ok? Does anyone use it? What results were seen? Is it Good or Bad or indifferent? Google doesn't help at

how to change udev rules in Fedora

Hi, what's the proposed way to permanently change udev rules in Fedora? The file I need to edit has a comment in it: "do not edit this file, it will be overwritten on update". -- Fedora release 19 (Schrödinger’s Cat) -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change

Re: how to change udev rules in Fedora

On 07/17/13 08:07, lee wrote: > Hi, > > what's the proposed way to permanently change udev rules in Fedora? > > The file I need to edit has a comment in it: "do not edit this file, it > will be overwritten on update". > > From "man 7 udev" The udev rules are read from the files located in

Re: Etiquette and changing of threads

Reindl Harald wrote: Am 15.07.2013 20:10, schrieb Robert Holtzman: On Sun, Jul 14, 2013 at 10:55:15PM -0300, Fernando Lozano wrote: Hi Reindl, first: my intention is *not* to start another epic thread since i am always the unholy prick here after i lose patience maybe others should also rec

Re: Etiquette and changing of threads

lee wrote: Reindl Harald writes: the real problem is thread-view Perhaps you'd be happier with a different MUA. You seem to be using something similar to the MUA built into seamonkey. I have always found it totally unsuited for managing more than a very few mails. Yes, Seamonkey has watc

Re: Etiquette and changing of threads

Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Mon, 2013-07-15 at 21:40 +0200, Ralf Corsepius wrote: Just think about what you'd tell me, if I tell you: "You must do it this way" ... You'd likely take it as a rudity. However, this is the 1:1 translation of what Germans would use to express what US Americans are

Re: gnome-shell issue when ThinkPad T60 connected to dock with extra monitor

On Sat, Jul 13, 2013 at 9:24 AM, Dave Johansen wrote: > > I posted about this issue on the devel list and it was recommended > that I try here. That conversation can be found at: > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel/2013-July/185305.html > > Here's a description of the issue: > > I ha

Re: Etiquette and changing of threads

lee wrote: Bill Davidsen writes: lee wrote: Queue your posts before sending them. I tried that, and wound up not remembering to post afterword. It sounds better than it works, at least for me. It can happen --- since I got used to it, I don't forget it anymore. Even if I do, nothing te

Re: USB Lan Adapter

Ranjan Maitra wrote: Hello, My Dell XPS 13 is one of those without an ethernet outlet (for want of a better term). So I purchased a Keydex UG-ND1118-SV USB Lan Adapter and hooked it on, but it does not appear to be recognized (F19). Looking at the packaging, it looks like there is a driver downl

Re: a different point of view to "etiquette"

On Tue, 2013-07-16 at 15:31 +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: > http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.kernel.stable/58049/focus%3D1525074 > > From: Linus Torvalds linux-foundation.org> > Subject: Re: [ 00/19] 3.10.1-stable review > Newsgroups: gmane.linux.kernel.stable, gmane.linux.kernel > Date: 2013-07

Re: i can't install Fedora 14

Skander Bahloul wrote: Hi, I have a multiboot system which contain Fedora 18. I try to install Fedora 14, but when i boot and i choose the seconde option of the boot menu, the screen become dark and i haven't the installation process. I try the same install DVD in another PC and it seems ok.

Re: partitioning

Richard Vickery writes: > There is no real difference between pre-installation and disk / cfdisk, and > all post-partitions are as usable as pre-install work. So you install first, without making any partitions, and then create partitions afterwards? > Why question it? If you are interested in

Re: how to change udev rules in Fedora

Ed Greshko writes: > On 07/17/13 08:07, lee wrote: >> Hi, >> >> what's the proposed way to permanently change udev rules in Fedora? >> >> The file I need to edit has a comment in it: "do not edit this file, it >> will be overwritten on update". >> >> > > From "man 7 udev" >with the same n

Re: sssd for /boot?

Frank Murphy writes: > On Tue, 16 Jul 2013 16:41:49 +0200 > lee wrote: > >> Frank Murphy writes: >> >> > On the point of replacing some disks. >> > What would people think of these for a /boot, / combo? >> > There's lots in web searchland re "ssd writes lifespan" >> > >> > https://tinyurl.com/

Re: importance of upgradeability

Fernando Lozano writes: > Hi, > > In my case, I found Fedora very expensive to upgrade. That I can understand --- upgrading twice a year, especially when it's questionable if the upgrade works --- can be painful, all the more when you have many machines to upgrade. It gave me

Re: how to change udev rules in Fedora

On 07/16/2013 08:39 PM, lee wrote: Thank you! So I'll just copy the file I want to modify into /etc/udev/rules.d/ and delete everything I don't want to modify, that should work ... Please let us know how this works. I'm sure that there are others on this list who could take advantage of the

Re: sssd for /boot?

Frank Murphy wrote: On the point of replacing some disks. What would people think of these for a /boot, / combo? There's lots in web searchland re "ssd writes lifespan" https://tinyurl.com/ohbkkyj (komplett) I have /boot, /, and swap on SSD on three servers. Take a look at the lifetime of a de

Re: a different point of view to "etiquette"

Craig White wrote: On Tue, 2013-07-16 at 15:31 +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.kernel.stable/58049/focus%3D1525074 From: Linus Torvalds linux-foundation.org> Subject: Re: [ 00/19] 3.10.1-stable review Newsgroups: gmane.linux.kernel.stable, gmane.linux.kernel Dat

Re: USB Lan Adapter

On Tue, 16 Jul 2013 23:24:21 -0400 Bill Davidsen wrote: > Ranjan Maitra wrote: > > Hello, > > > > My Dell XPS 13 is one of those without an ethernet outlet (for want of > > a better term). So I purchased a Keydex UG-ND1118-SV USB Lan Adapter and > > hooked it on, but it does not appear to be reco

Re: what has 'yum update' done?

| From: Reindl Harald | what he menat was showing the difference between | present and new config file before updates and the | option to merge them - not that the merge is useful | in many cases but *that* is was Debian offers Yes. Perhaps it is my greater time with Red Hat / Fedora than debia

Re: a different point of view to "etiquette"

Roger wrote: Thank you Linus and others. As I see it, this discussion has little to do with culture, nations or ideologies and a lot to do with rubbishing another person or their ideas for what ever reason. We are all equal, some have more knowledge than others. No Roger, when it comes to desi

Re: how to change udev rules in Fedora

Joe Zeff writes: > On 07/16/2013 08:39 PM, lee wrote: >> Thank you! So I'll just copy the file I want to modify into >> /etc/udev/rules.d/ and delete everything I don't want to modify, that >> should work ... > > Please let us know how this works. I'm sure that there are others on > this list

Re: how to change udev rules in Fedora

On 07/16/2013 09:32 PM, lee wrote: Joe Zeff writes: >On 07/16/2013 08:39 PM, lee wrote: >>Thank you! So I'll just copy the file I want to modify into >>/etc/udev/rules.d/ and delete everything I don't want to modify, that >>should work ... > >Please let us know how this works. I'm sure t

Re: a different point of view to "etiquette"

On 07/16/2013 07:10 PM, Rex Dieter wrote: Reindl Harald wrote: http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.kernel.stable/58049/focus%3D1525074 From: Linus Torvalds linux-foundation.org> Linus is in a very special category, Sure. and I don't think his justifications can be applied to virtually an

Re: how to change udev rules in Fedora

On 07/17/13 12:32, lee wrote: > Joe Zeff writes: > >> On 07/16/2013 08:39 PM, lee wrote: >>> Thank you! So I'll just copy the file I want to modify into >>> /etc/udev/rules.d/ and delete everything I don't want to modify, that >>> should work ... >> Please let us know how this works. I'm sure t

Re: sssd for /boot?

On Wed, 2013-07-17 at 05:13 +0200, lee wrote: > Considering their cost, SSDs don't seem worthwhile to me unless you > have an application that does make use of them. They probably make > quite some sense in laptops unless you need storage capacity because > their power consumption is low and becau

Re: ZoneMinder and ffmpeg

Tim: >> CRON job to compile a daily movie out of the JPEGs, then delete them >> afterwards? (Or delete them the day after, allowing you to keep >> shots you may need to keep.) Fernando Lozano: > I though about that, but could not manage to find how to do that yet. > If you kbnow how (or can point

Re: sssd for /boot?

Bill Davidsen writes: > Take a look at the lifetime of a decent SSD, and how many years it > would take to hit MTBF. You can get spinning disks and SSDs with an MTBF of 1.5 million hours, so they should last about 170 years ... How long does it actually take? For spinning disks, I expect the

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