Re: Correct permission for home directory

On 14 Jul 2013, at 02:24, lee wrote: > Paul Smith writes: > >> On Sat, Jul 13, 2013 at 3:47 PM, lee wrote: chmod 755 /home But what about /home/psmith >>> >>> It depends on what you want. There is some tradition that home >>> directories are readable for everyone

Re: Proposal: Fedora should install with IPv6 disabled by default [was: Re: Disabling ipv6]

> > i disagree also that it should be default disabled > *but* it should be disabled if you are on a network > with only a DHCP4 server and no DHCP6 or if you > have a static configuration without ipv6 > > currently you get a link-local address > This is by design. And with ipv6 incoming (big in A

Re: what has 'yum update' done?

Joe Zeff writes: > On 07/13/2013 03:51 PM, lee wrote: >> Automatic updates? I'd rather not do that since it sometimes seems >> advisable to reboot after an update. > > If you want to be sure, run needs-restarting in a terminal, as > root. About the only thing it doesn't list that I've seen is th

Re: what has 'yum update' done?

"Eddie G. O'Connor Jr." writes: > On 07/13/2013 06:51 PM, lee wrote: >> It's not simply about knowing which packages have been or are to be >> updated --- that I can see when running 'yum update'. It's about >> information what has actually changed when a package was updated. >> >> For example,

Re: Why should one upgrade Fedora whenever a new version is released?

Reindl Harald writes: > Am 14.07.2013 01:25, schrieb lee: >> From what I've been reading, CentOS isn't upgradeable at all. If that's >> true, I'm surprised you're using it. > > * you use it if you do not need new features over the lifecycle For which use cases can you predict that you will be f

Re: Schr?dinger?s Cat

On Sat, Jul 13, 2013 at 08:50:25PM -0700, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 07/13/2013 05:28 PM, lee wrote: > >What if the guy was called "Waterfalls"? "Waterfalls' cat"? > Either that or, "Waterfalls's cat." Both are currently acceptable, > at least in American English. Yeah. Although there's probably no ch

Re: what has 'yum update' done?

On Sun, Jul 14, 2013 at 12:51:05AM +0200, lee wrote: > >> The package management tools in Debian send you emails about changes > >> like that, even about very little changes, when packages are being > >> replaced by more recent versions. Maybe this could be done in Fedora as > >> well? > > You cou

Re: what has 'yum update' done?

On Sun, Jul 14, 2013 at 09:54:49AM +0200, lee wrote: > Something like 'yum-seth-plugin', sending you messages with a subject > like "Seth reminds you: ", and make yum depend on it? Let's not name something after Seth unless we're sure it's something he would have liked. -- Matthew Miller ☁☁☁ F

Re: what has 'yum update' done?

On Sun, 14 Jul 2013 00:51:05 +0200 lee wrote: > Why not make it one of the great features of Fedora? Then take it > to the next step and make systemd send mails in case a service > couldn't be started or has issues, You can do that yourself currently. -- Regards, Frank "When in doubt PANIC!"

Having problem keeping xscreensaver running

Haven't quited figured out yet whether xscreensaver fails to start in the first place, or it starts but dies at some point. The bottom that at some point the monitor does not get turned off due to inactivity; and running screensaver manually at that point results in a complaint that it's not

Re: Yum dependency problem

Reindl Harald wrote: > rpmforge-extras > > that is why you shuld be *very* careful in mixing repos > > hence except rpmfusion you should limit the packages > you get from a repo in the .repofile to the ones you > need including their specific dependencies because > rpmforge is known as overridin

encrypting disks

Hi, In Fedora, there has almost always been an option at the disk partitioning stage to encrypt the disk ("Encrypt my data"). I have never used it but wanted to try it. So, what does this give me? In other words, is it still possible to 1. Hibernate and come back (with password, perhaps)? 2. ssh

Re: encrypting disks

What you'll get in disk encription is a partition ecryption with dm-crypt/LUKS. You can read a lot inside the manuals. Otherwise if you don't wanna encrypt everything, then you have alternatives - as Cryptkeeper what is in the repository. That provides EncFS for folders, and usually in most cases

Schrödinger▊s & Schr?dinger?s

What can explain this difference? Dell Inspiron laptop: Schr?dinger?s Cat Lenovo Thinkpad: Schrödinger▊s Cat Both the same default Fed19 installs with standard default startup and grub screens. Can for example hardware (Optimus(Intel Ivybridge + Nvidia) vs Intel Sandybridge) make the difference.

install /boot with encrypted partition

So, I tried to encrypt the disk (option in Fedora) and failed because /boot can not be in encrypted partition. I have only one HDD and it appears that the encrypted option is for the entire HDD. Is there any place in the new Anaconda where encryption can be done for selected partitions? Where? Do I

Re: what has 'yum update' done?

On 07/14/2013 03:54 AM, lee wrote: "Eddie G. O'Connor Jr." writes: On 07/13/2013 06:51 PM, lee wrote: It's not simply about knowing which packages have been or are to be updated --- that I can see when running 'yum update'. It's about information what has actually changed when a package was

Re: what has 'yum update' done?

On 07/14/2013 08:35 AM, Matthew Miller wrote: On Sun, Jul 14, 2013 at 12:51:05AM +0200, lee wrote: The package management tools in Debian send you emails about changes like that, even about very little changes, when packages are being replaced by more recent versions. Maybe this could be done i

Re: install /boot with encrypted partition (SOLVED)

Sorry, there is a click on the left which becomes available when you put in a separate boot partition. My humble suggestion: that a /boot partition suggestion (requirement) be included in the instructions for account creation when disk encryption is set. Thanks, Ranjan On Sun, 14 Jul 2013 11:06:0

Re: Why should one upgrade Fedora whenever a new version is released?

On Sat, 13 Jul 2013, Eddie G. O'Connor Jr. wrote: On 07/13/2013 11:57 AM, Michael Hennebry wrote: For me it was the aggravation. Installing was always a struggle. I was on F14 when I tried to do a fresh install of F16. Never got it to work. I'm running CentOS now, but keep F14 around in case

Re: Schrödinger▊s & Schr?dinger?s

So I was thinking this morning: isn't it time to get back to the old way of naming Fedora releases (if at all) where we had such good names (places, I believe: Cambridge, Heidelberg, etc) instead of these nonsensical two-word names **apparently** adapted from the Ubuntu way of naming things? Fedor

Re: Why should one upgrade Fedora whenever a new version is released?

On Sun, 14 Jul 2013, lee wrote: Reindl Harald writes: Am 14.07.2013 01:25, schrieb lee: From what I've been reading, CentOS isn't upgradeable at all. If that's true, I'm surprised you're using it. * you use it if you do not need new features over the lifecycle For which use cases can yo

Re: Schrödinger▊s & Schr?dinger?s

On Sun, 14 Jul 2013 11:31:24 -0500 Ranjan Maitra wrote: > So I was thinking this morning: isn't it time to get back to the old > way of naming Fedora releases (if at all) where we had such good names > (places, I believe: Cambridge, Heidelberg, etc) instead of these > nonsensical two-word names *

Re: Why should one upgrade Fedora whenever a new version is released?

Hi On Sun, Jul 14, 2013 at 12:41 PM, Michael Hennebry < henne...@web.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu> wrote: > On Sun, 14 Jul 2013, lee wrote: > > Reindl Harald writes: >> >> Am 14.07.2013 01:25, schrieb lee: >>> From what I've been reading, CentOS isn't upgradeable at all. If that's true, I'm s

Re: Schrödinger▊s & Schr?dinger?s

On Sun, 14 Jul 2013 10:41:58 -0600 Kevin Fenzi wrote: > it's > completely cosmetic. It isn't completely cosmetic - this latest name has revealed an obvious bug in unicode support :-). -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin

Re: F19 live hangs

Al Dunsmuir wrote > All of the distributions ultimately obtain their Xorg server, > drivers, and mesa from the same sources. This means sooner or later > bugs are likely to reach all distributions unless we contribute > in some way towards helping fix them at source. Point taken

Re: encrypting disks

Around 04:41pm on Sunday, July 14, 2013 (UK time), Ranjan Maitra scrawled: > partitioning stage to encrypt the disk ("Encrypt my data"). I have never > used it but wanted to try it. So, what does this give me? In other > words, is it still possible to 1. Hibernate and come back (with > password, p

Re: [OT] Seth Vidal, creator of "yum" killed in bike accident

On 9 July 2013 21:29, staticsafe wrote: > http://durham.io/2013/07/09/seth-vidal-creator-of-yum-open-source-software-killed-in-bike-accident-off-hillandale-rd/ > NooI'm in shock That man was a giant around here (FedoraLand) RIP Mr S Vidal ...dex -- users mailing list users@lists.f

Re: what has 'yum update' done?

Am 13.07.2013 22:59, schrieb lee: > Reindl Harald writes: > >> Am 12.07.2013 21:57, schrieb lee: >>> The upgrade from 17 to 18 silently broke apache because the >>> configuration had changed. That is something that shouldn't happen, the >>> devs know when there are changes like that and make s

Re: Schr?dinger?s Cat

Am 14.07.2013 00:04, schrieb Digimer: > On 13/07/13 09:31, Reindl Harald wrote: >> >> >> Am 13.07.2013 14:49, schrieb Klaus-Peter Schrage: >>> Is there any way to tell grub2 to display this somewhat nicer in the menu, >>> like in /etc/fedora-release: >>> Schrödinger’s Cat >> >> that's a known pr

Re: Proposal: Fedora should install with IPv6 disabled by default [was: Re: Disabling ipv6]

Am 14.07.2013 01:15, schrieb Richard Sewill: > keep in mind that there are environemnts far outside the > single workstation and security is *always* the big picture > of the complete environment and the weakest piece defines > your overall security > > If an administrator or a no

Re: Proposal: Fedora should install with IPv4/6 disabled by default [was: Re: Disabling ipv6]

Am 14.07.2013 00:33, schrieb David Beveridge: > On Sat, Jul 13, 2013 at 2:36 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: >> coming up with a "link-local" address inside a network >> which is *pure ipv4* on a server means *any* random >> device which does the same may bypass all your firewall >> rule since iptables

Re: Schrödinger▊s & Schr?dinger?s

On 14 July 2013 17:31, Ranjan Maitra wrote: > So I was thinking this morning: isn't it time to get back to the old > way of naming Fedora releases (if at all) where we had such good names > (places, I believe: Cambridge, Heidelberg, etc) instead of these > nonsensical two-word names **apparently**

Re: ipv6disable=1 as boot-param ignored (F20 3.10 kernel)

Am 14.07.2013 01:43, schrieb Joe Zeff: > On 07/12/2013 09:36 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: >> coming up with a "link-local" address inside a network >> which is *pure ipv4* on a server means *any* random >> device which does the same may bypass all your firewall >> rule ssince iptables and ip6tables

Re: Schr?dinger?s Cat

On 14 July 2013 13:27, Matthew Miller wrote: > On Sat, Jul 13, 2013 at 08:50:25PM -0700, Joe Zeff wrote: >> On 07/13/2013 05:28 PM, lee wrote: >> >What if the guy was called "Waterfalls"? "Waterfalls' cat"? >> Either that or, "Waterfalls's cat." Both are currently acceptable, >> at least in Amer

Re: [GW-C] [ECOTONE] Re: rant of the day: installing fedora

On 14 July 2013 00:51, lee wrote: > Ian Malone writes: > >> On 12 July 2013 21:45, lee wrote: >>> And there needs to be something like an option for extended partitioning >>> that allows you to do whatever you want. Having the installer do it for >>> you is a nice option to have and it's not en

How do I run a script automatically when a specific drive mounts?

I want to execute a script every time a specific drive is mounted on the system. I have a thumb drive that has a name I've given it. When it's mounted, I want to copy the contents of my .gnupg directory to it so I can always have a current backup of my keyring. From the research I've done, it lo

kernel

Hello, After a fresh installation, the updater maintains: kernel and kernel-PAE I guess that I do not need both kernels. How can I manage it? Thank. === Patrick DUPRÉ                                 | | email: pdu...@gmx

Re: kernel

A valid workaround could be adding the following line on the */etc/yum.conf* : > exclude=kernel-PAE* > Hope it helps. Regards, 2013/7/14 Patrick Dupre > Hello, > > After a fresh installation, the updater maintains: > kernel > and > kernel-PAE > > I guess that I do not need both kernels. Ho

Re: encrypting disks

I'll second the plug for cryptkeeper. I've done it both ways -- encrypting a partition and using cryptkeeper. Both have been pretty transparent. I have had no problem using ssh or hibernating with either, but I like the selectivity of cryptkeeper. I have read, but do not perceive personall

Re: encrypting disks

Thanks, Bill (and Zoltan)! Both of you make excellent points and this, along with Zoltan's pointers, is most helpful. I have a question: can an encrypted disk be unencryted without losing the data in it? Many thanks, Ranjan On Sun, 14 Jul 2013 21:22:30 + Bill Oliver wrote: > > I'll second

Crossword printing problem -

I print crossword puzzles from Firefox. A couple of them require "Shockwave Flash" which works to display them but they will not print. Other stuff from Firefox prints normally as does printing from an xfce-terminal. When I attempt to print the regular box comes up at the top left but the "

Re: Where does gnome-abrt report its crashes to?

On Sat, 2013-07-13 at 20:53 -0700, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 07/13/2013 06:02 PM, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote: > > I recently submitted a crash report using the gnome-abrt > > application/applet and would like to file a comment to it. Which > > bugzilla did gnome-abrt submit it to? I had assumed that the g

ignoring a particular package another one depends on

Hi, 'xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-1:319.23-5.fc19.x86_64' now depends on 'xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-173xx-173.14.37-2.fc19.x86_64'. 'xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-173xx-173.14.37-2.fc19.x86_64' conflicts with some packages that prevent updating some packages like the NVIDIA drivers and the kernel. Is it somehow possible

Re: kernel

On Sun, 14 Jul 2013 22:59:43 +0200 "Patrick Dupre" wrote: > Hello, > > After a fresh installation, the updater maintains: > kernel > and > kernel-PAE > > I guess that I do not need both kernels. How can I manage it? > > Thank. Depends on which you want to keep? Google kernel vs kernel-PAE,

Re: Crossword printing problem -

On 07/15/13 05:58, Bob Goodwin ~ Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote: > I print crossword puzzles from Firefox. A couple of them require "Shockwave > Flash" which works to display them but they will not print. Other stuff from > Firefox prints normally as does printing from an xfce-terminal. > > When I att

Re: Where does gnome-abrt report its crashes to?

On 07/15/13 06:03, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote: > It looks like my crash reports go to retrace.fedoraproject.org, which is > restricted to the authorized. But if anyone is interested, the commands > causing the crash are > $ ooffice fish-kebabs.odt > $ ooffice Fish-Marinade.odt > $ ooffice dry

Re: Crossword printing problem -

On 14/07/13 18:28, Ed Greshko wrote: On 07/15/13 05:58, Bob Goodwin ~ Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote: I print crossword puzzles from Firefox. A couple of them require "Shockwave Flash" which works to display them but they will not print. Other stuff from Firefox prints normally as does printing fro

Re: Why should one upgrade Fedora whenever a new version is released?

James Hogarth writes: >> >> From what I've been reading, CentOS isn't upgradeable at all. If that's >> true, I'm surprised you're using it. >> > The point of using it of course is a stable environment for 7 years or so > between major upgrades and not for the bleeding edge of software. And afte

Re: what has 'yum update' done?

Frank Murphy writes: > On Sun, 14 Jul 2013 00:51:05 +0200 > lee wrote: > >> Why not make it one of the great features of Fedora? Then take it >> to the next step and make systemd send mails in case a service >> couldn't be started or has issues, > > You can do that yourself currently. By polli

Re: ignoring a particular package another one depends on

Reindl Harald writes: > Am 15.07.2013 00:05, schrieb lee: >> 'xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-1:319.23-5.fc19.x86_64' now depends on >> 'xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-173xx-173.14.37-2.fc19.x86_64'. >> >> 'xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-173xx-173.14.37-2.fc19.x86_64' conflicts with some >> packages that prevent updating some pa

Re: what has 'yum update' done?

Matthew Miller writes: > On Sun, Jul 14, 2013 at 12:51:05AM +0200, lee wrote: >> > You could try using yum-cron. >> Automatic updates? I'd rather not do that since it sometimes seems >> advisable to reboot after an update. > > It's often advisable, but usually only because the updates may not ta

Re: Why should one upgrade Fedora whenever a new version is released?

Am 14.07.2013 02:11, schrieb Ranjan Maitra: > On Fri, 12 Jul 2013 21:48:40 +0200 Reindl Harald > wrote: > >> Am 12.07.2013 21:45, schrieb Paul Smith: >>> Why should one upgrade Fedora whenever a new version is released? What >>> are the main reasons? >> >> because after F19 is released a month l

Etiquette and changing of threads

first: my intention is *not* to start another epic thread since i am always the unholy prick here after i lose patience maybe others should also reconsider *not* hijacking threads by * change the subject in a reply which is *uneccaptable* especially if the subjet contained the initial question

Re: Disabling ipv6

Am 13.07.2013 02:34, schrieb David Beveridge: > On Sat, Jul 13, 2013 at 8:55 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: >> and the answer comes back to exactly this port >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stateful_firewall >> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UDP_hole_punching > "On some routers where port randomizat

Re: Why should one upgrade Fedora whenever a new version is released?

Am 14.07.2013 01:25, schrieb lee: > From what I've been reading, CentOS isn't upgradeable at all. If that's > true, I'm surprised you're using it. the idea behind a LTS distribution is that you have *10 years* update-support and stay on exatcly the software versions which was shipped as you ins

Re: Proposal: Fedora should install with IPv4/6 disabled by default [was: Re: Disabling ipv6]

Am 14.07.2013 08:53, schrieb James Hogarth: >> It might be a good idea, then, to configure ip6tables to deny everything and >> enable it just to be sure. > > And this is one of the reasons that firewalld has come about... The same rule > (unless it specifies a family or has > addressees in the

Re: Why should one upgrade Fedora whenever a new version is released?

Am 14.07.2013 09:36, schrieb lee: > Reindl Harald writes: > >> Am 14.07.2013 01:25, schrieb lee: >>> From what I've been reading, CentOS isn't upgradeable at all. If that's >>> true, I'm surprised you're using it. >> >> * you use it if you do not need new features over the lifecycle > > For w

Re: what has 'yum update' done?

Am 14.07.2013 09:42, schrieb lee: > Joe Zeff writes: >> On 07/13/2013 03:51 PM, lee wrote: >>> Automatic updates? I'd rather not do that since it sometimes seems >>> advisable to reboot after an update. >> >> If you want to be sure, run needs-restarting in a terminal, as >> root. About the only

Re: Why should one upgrade Fedora whenever a new version is released?

Reindl Harald writes: > Am 14.07.2013 09:36, schrieb lee: >> Reindl Harald writes: >> >>> Am 14.07.2013 01:25, schrieb lee: From what I've been reading, CentOS isn't upgradeable at all. If that's true, I'm surprised you're using it. >>> >>> * you use it if you do not need new feature

Re: what has 'yum update' done?

Am 14.07.2013 14:35, schrieb Matthew Miller: > On Sun, Jul 14, 2013 at 12:51:05AM +0200, lee wrote: The package management tools in Debian send you emails about changes like that, even about very little changes, when packages are being replaced by more recent versions. Maybe this

Re: what has 'yum update' done?

Am 14.07.2013 14:41, schrieb Frank Murphy: > On Sun, 14 Jul 2013 00:51:05 +0200 > lee wrote: > >> Why not make it one of the great features of Fedora? Then take it >> to the next step and make systemd send mails in case a service >> couldn't be started or has issues, > > You can do that yours

Re: what has 'yum update' done?

Am 14.07.2013 15:12, schrieb Frank Murphy: > On Sun, 14 Jul 2013 14:55:02 +0200 > Reindl Harald wrote: > > Didn't know wherer you wanted to post back to list? > If yes, I will. i had the list also as RCPT a well as now so no need to re-post it makes pretty no sense having a discussion where an

Re: kernel

Am 14.07.2013 22:59, schrieb Patrick Dupre: > After a fresh installation, the updater maintains: > kernel > and > kernel-PAE > > I guess that I do not need both kernels. How can I manage it? * which Fedora version * which CPU architecture * what says "rpm -qa | grep kernel" i guess because t

Re: kernel

Am 14.07.2013 23:25, schrieb Patrick Dupre: >> - Original Message - >> From: Reindl Harald >> Sent: 07/14/13 11:02 PM >> To: Community support for Fedora users >> Subject: Re: kernel >> >> Am 14.07.2013 22:59, schrieb Patrick Dupre: >>> After a fresh installation, the updater maintains: >

Re: Why should one upgrade Fedora whenever a new version is released?

Am 15.07.2013 02:16, schrieb lee: > Reindl Harald writes: >>> For which use cases can you predict that you will be fine with the same >>> software for the next ten years? >> >> *business usage* > > That's a very general answer. You could as well, and perhaps even more > likely, use it for a se

Re: ignoring a particular package another one depends on

Am 15.07.2013 00:05, schrieb lee: > 'xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-1:319.23-5.fc19.x86_64' now depends on > 'xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-173xx-173.14.37-2.fc19.x86_64'. > > 'xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-173xx-173.14.37-2.fc19.x86_64' conflicts with some > packages that prevent updating some packages like the NVIDIA driver

Re: encrypting disks

On Jul 14, 2013 8:41 AM, "Ranjan Maitra" wrote: > > Hi, > > In Fedora, there has almost always been an option at the disk > partitioning stage to encrypt the disk ("Encrypt my data"). I have never > used it but wanted to try it. So, what does this give me? In other > words, is it still possible to

Re: install /boot with encrypted partition (SOLVED)

On Jul 14, 2013 9:21 AM, "Ranjan Maitra" wrote: > > Sorry, there is a click on the left which becomes available when you > put in a separate boot partition. My humble suggestion: that a /boot > partition suggestion (requirement) be included in the instructions for > account creation when disk encr

Re: ignoring a particular package another one depends on

On 07/15/13 07:54, lee wrote: > Reindl Harald writes: > >> Am 15.07.2013 00:05, schrieb lee: >>> 'xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-1:319.23-5.fc19.x86_64' now depends on >>> 'xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-173xx-173.14.37-2.fc19.x86_64'. >>> >>> 'xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-173xx-173.14.37-2.fc19.x86_64' conflicts with some >>>

Re: [OT] Seth Vidal, creator of "yum" killed in bike accident

On Sat, Jul 13, 2013 at 10:01 PM, Eddie G. O'Connor Jr. wrote: > On 07/11/2013 09:16 PM, Richard Vickery wrote: >> >> On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 4:58 PM, Isaac Cortés González >> wrote: >>> >>> I support the idea, it should be done at least something like when >>> Verne was released and Dennis Ritch

Re: [GW-C] [ECOTONE] Re: rant of the day: installing fedora

On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 1:45 PM, lee wrote: > "D. Hugh Redelmeier" writes: > >> | From: Tom Horsley >> >> | How did you get past the screen that only lets you pick a whole disk >> | drive then, as the only possible option after that, click "Done"? >> | (Or, as I did the first time I saw it, push

Re: Why should one upgrade Fedora whenever a new version is released?

On Sun, Jul 14, 2013 at 10:06 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > Hi > > > On Sun, Jul 14, 2013 at 12:41 PM, Michael Hennebry > wrote: >> >> On Sun, 14 Jul 2013, lee wrote: >> >>> Reindl Harald writes: >>> Am 14.07.2013 01:25, schrieb lee: > > From what I've been reading, CentOS isn't upgra

Re: Proposal: Fedora should install with IPv6 disabled by default [was: Re: Disabling ipv6]

Hi, > > i disagree also that it should be default disabled > > *but* it should be disabled if you are on a network > > with only a DHCP4 server and no DHCP6 or if you > > have a static configuration without ipv6 > > > > currently you get a link-local address > > > > This is by design. And with ipv

Re: Etiquette and changing of threads

Hi Reindl, > first: my intention is *not* to start another epic thread > > since i am always the unholy prick here after i lose patience > maybe others should also reconsider *not* hijacking threads by Thanks for clarification. Changing the subject (and keeping the original one with a [Re:]) is st

Re: Why should one upgrade Fedora whenever a new version is released?

On Sun, 14 Jul 2013, Rahul Sundaram wrote: On Sun, Jul 14, 2013 at 12:41 PM, Michael Hennebry < henne...@web.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu> wrote: Something about which I am ignorant: Which changes require new releases and which do not. Would someone be kind enough to give me examples of each between F14

Re: How do I run a script automatically when a specific drive mounts?

On Jul 14, 2013 1:45 PM, "Anthony" wrote: > I want to execute a script every time a specific drive is mounted on > the system. I have a thumb drive that has a name I've given it. When > it's mounted, I want to copy the contents of my .gnupg directory to it > so I can always have a current backup

Re: How do I run a script automatically when a specific drive mounts? (SOLVED)

On 07/14/2013 10:01 PM, T.C. Hollingsworth wrote: > On Jul 14, 2013 1:45 PM, "Anthony" > wrote: >> I want to execute a script every time a specific drive is mounted on >> the system. I have a thumb drive that has a name I've given it. When >> it's mounted, I want to

Re: Why should one upgrade Fedora whenever a new version is released?

Hi On Sun, Jul 14, 2013 at 10:22 PM, Michael Hennebry wrote: > I get that breaking things should require a new release. > With that criterion, > solely adding a new feature should not require a new release. > Requiring its use would be another matter. > Right. Number of features have been intr

Re: [GW-C] [ECOTONE] Re: rant of the day: installing fedora

Ian Malone writes: > On 14 July 2013 00:51, lee wrote: >> Ian Malone writes: >> >>> On 12 July 2013 21:45, lee wrote: >> >> Are you referring to the option the installer gives you to do your >> own/custom partitioning? If so, you can do that, but you do not know >> where on the disks the part

Re: Why should one upgrade Fedora whenever a new version is released?

Michael Hennebry writes: > On Sun, 14 Jul 2013, lee wrote: >> For which use cases can you predict that you will be fine with the same >> software for the next ten years? > > Why were new releases required? New releases are a means to limit the lifetime of the already existing ones. This is requ

Re: what has 'yum update' done?

"Eddie G. O'Connor Jr." writes: > On 07/14/2013 03:54 AM, lee wrote: >> "Eddie G. O'Connor Jr." writes: >> >>> On 07/13/2013 06:51 PM, lee wrote: It's not simply about knowing which packages have been or are to be updated --- that I can see when running 'yum update'. It's about i

Re: Schr?dinger?s Cat

Ian Malone writes: > I like the Strunk and White recommendation which is "'s" for names > except those that have historically used "s'". Historically, it's "Schrödingers Katze", i. e. neither "s'", nor "s's". He was from Austria and has been living for some time in Germany[1], so he probably spo

Re: Etiquette and changing of threads

Reindl Harald writes: > first: my intention is *not* to start another epic thread What is your intention? > since i am always the unholy prick here after i lose patience Don't lose patience. If you don't like someones posts, put the author into your score file and have their posts scored down

Re: [GW-C] [ECOTONE] Re: rant of the day: installing fedora

Richard Vickery writes: >> If I had had disks with data on them when I tried out the installer, I >> wouldn't have clicked on that Done button, either. > > Why not install it and make partitions at a later time? Does the installer support creating a file system directly on a device without parti

Re: ignoring a particular package another one depends on

Ed Greshko writes: > On 07/15/13 07:54, lee wrote: >> Reindl Harald writes: >> >>> Am 15.07.2013 00:05, schrieb lee: 'xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-1:319.23-5.fc19.x86_64' now depends on 'xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-173xx-173.14.37-2.fc19.x86_64'. 'xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-173xx-173.14.37-2.fc19.x8

Re: Why should one upgrade Fedora whenever a new version is released?

Reindl Harald writes: > Am 15.07.2013 02:16, schrieb lee: >> Reindl Harald writes: For which use cases can you predict that you will be fine with the same software for the next ten years? >>> >>> *business usage* >> >> That's a very general answer. You could as well, and perhaps even

Re: what has 'yum update' done?

On Mon, 15 Jul 2013 00:51:50 +0200 lee wrote: > Frank Murphy writes: > > > On Sun, 14 Jul 2013 00:51:05 +0200 > > lee wrote: > > > >> Why not make it one of the great features of Fedora? Then take > >> it to the next step and make systemd send mails in case a service > >> couldn't be started

Re: Where does gnome-abrt report its crashes to?

On Sat, 13 Jul 2013 18:02:56 -0700 Jonathan Ryshpan wrote: > I recently submitted a crash report using the gnome-abrt > application/applet and would like to file a comment to it. Which > bugzilla did gnome-abrt submit it to? I had assumed that the > gnome-abrt user interface would tell me, or I

Re: Why should one upgrade Fedora whenever a new version is released?

> > Unless I missed it, nobody has described a particular use case yet in > which it is obvious that it is good to use CentOS. Upgrading holds its > risks as well as using software that cannot be upgraded. The future > cannot be predicted. So how do you make a decision like between using > Fedor

Re: install /boot with encrypted partition

On 14.07.2013, Ranjan Maitra wrote: > So, I tried to encrypt the disk (option in Fedora) and failed > because /boot can not be in encrypted partition. The /boot partition must of course remain unencrypted, otherwise you can't boot your encrypted system at all. > I have only one HDD > and it app

Re: Schr?dinger?s Cat

On 15 July 2013 02:19, lee wrote: > Ian Malone writes: > >> I like the Strunk and White recommendation which is "'s" for names >> except those that have historically used "s'". > > Historically, it's "Schrödingers Katze", i. e. neither "s'", nor "s's". > He was from Austria and has been living fo

Re: Schr?dinger?s Cat

On Mon, 15 Jul 2013 03:19:40 +0200 lee wrote: > Would it do any harm if I changed /etc/fedora-release to > "... (Schrödingers Katze)"? > I don't believe so, you may have to tweak bzs' sent through abrt. -- Regards, Frank "When in doubt PANIC!" I check for new mail app. 20min www.frankly3d.c