Re: Disabling ipv6

2013-07-11 Thread Tim
On Wed, 2013-07-10 at 20:30 +0200, Timothy Murphy wrote: > It seems IPv6 sites are rather rare. > I tried about a dozen sites in Ireland, > including most universities, > but only two came up positive: my own maths.tcd.ie > and heanet.ie , which sort of runs the internet in Ireland. Spare IPv4 add

Re: looking for xv.

2013-07-11 Thread Tim
On Wed, 2013-07-10 at 11:59 -0400, Bill Mattison wrote: > 2. I also tried the Gimp as per Matthew Miller's suggestion. I found > the functionality that I believe he's referring to. The Gimp seems to > insist on making the adjustment a curve rather than a straight line. Try: Rather than click

Re: Mailing List Etiquette (was Re: can't run sshd on 23456 in Fedora 19)

2013-07-11 Thread Tim
On Wed, 2013-07-10 at 09:34 -0500, Matthew J. Roth wrote: > It's ironic that you're using personal insults and borderline profane > language in your condemnation of Harald. No, it's called reverse do unto others. i.e. It's perfectly fine to treat people in the same way that they treat you. And I

Re: Mailing List Etiquette (was Re: can't run sshd on 23456 in Fedora 19)

2013-07-11 Thread Tim
Tim: >> I'll go even further. Since he's shown no evidence of stopping doing >> it, unsubscribe him. We're all better off without it. Timothy Murphy: > You are definitely wrong there. > I for one would not be better off. > since I have had several bits of helpful advice from Reindl, Which, cou

Re: Disabling ipv6

2013-07-11 Thread J.Witvliet
(Top posting enforced by my BB) Here in NL there are afaicr 3 providers that give you native (direct from your modem) IPv6. I was initially looking at sixxs, but somehow that didn't feel good. Since long time i got my very first tunnel from HE. There first tunnel end-point is in fremont, USA. C

Re: Mailing List Etiquette (was Re: can't run sshd on 23456 in Fedora 19)

2013-07-11 Thread linuxnutster
On 07/11/2013 08:16 AM, Tim wrote: Australian, actually. Is Foster's really any good? ( Evil Grin ) :-) -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/

Re: Mailing List Etiquette (was Re: can't run sshd on 23456 in Fedora 19)

2013-07-11 Thread Tim
Tim: >> I'm sick of his behaviour. If he modifies his own behaviour, and >> continue to behave normally, he might get unmoderated. Let him stay >> moderated until he can stop being an insulting, aggressive, egotistical >> sod. Robert Holtzman: > Pot, meet kettle. Easy to be a smart arse. You d

Re: [OT] Seth Vidal, creator of "yum" killed in bike accident

2013-07-11 Thread Tim
On Wed, 2013-07-10 at 11:10 -0500, Ranjan Maitra wrote: > Or if he would have been uncomfortable with this (I did not know him), > perhaps name it after his passions: yum and biking (from what I read > here) in some creative way "yummy cycles"? Even has a general computing tie-in. ;-) -- [

Re: [OT] Seth Vidal, creator of "yum" killed in bike accident

2013-07-11 Thread Eddie G. O'Connor Jr.
On 07/11/2013 08:41 AM, Tim wrote: On Wed, 2013-07-10 at 11:10 -0500, Ranjan Maitra wrote: Or if he would have been uncomfortable with this (I did not know him), perhaps name it after his passions: yum and biking (from what I read here) in some creative way "yummy cycles"? Even has a gener

Re: Mailing List Etiquette (was Re: can't run sshd on 23456 in Fedora 19)

2013-07-11 Thread Frank Murphy
On Thu, 11 Jul 2013 08:36:10 -0400 linuxnuts...@videotron.ca wrote: > On 07/11/2013 08:16 AM, Tim wrote: > > Australian, actually. > > Is Foster's really any good? ( Evil Grin ) :-) That's so Crocodile Dundee era :) -- Regards, Frank "When in doubt PANIC!" I check for new mail app. 20min www

Re: Mailing List Etiquette (was Re: can't run sshd on 23456 in Fedora 19)

2013-07-11 Thread linuxnutster
On 07/11/2013 08:50 AM, Frank Murphy wrote: On Thu, 11 Jul 2013 08:36:10 -0400 linuxnuts...@videotron.ca wrote: On 07/11/2013 08:16 AM, Tim wrote: Australian, actually. Is Foster's really any good? ( Evil Grin ) :-) That's so Crocodile Dundee era :) Linda Kozlowski... YUM :-) -- users m

Re: Mailing List Etiquette (was Re: can't run sshd on 23456 in Fedora 19)

2013-07-11 Thread David
Paul Fields. After many, to many, days of this drivel would you please make this go away? -- David -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/w

Re: Setting wallpaper

2013-07-11 Thread Frank McCormick
On 07/10/2013 11:13 PM, Frank McCormick wrote: I am running IceWm on Fedora 19and it has orphaned the background setter I used to use (Nitrogen). It was convenient because it opened a window of thumbnails of all the images...and you could choose one to be set. Is there a way to do this in

18 -> 19 all went smoothly, great fedup

2013-07-11 Thread Maurizio Marini
I am very glad to see that this was the smoothest migration ever done on fedora :) well done, boys :) -m smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailm

Re: 18 -> 19 all went smoothly, great fedup

2013-07-11 Thread Philippe LeCavalier
+1 On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 9:49 AM, Maurizio Marini wrote: > I am very glad to see that this was the smoothest migration ever done on > fedora :) > well done, boys :) > > -m > > -- > users mailing list > users@lists.fedoraproject.org > To unsubscribe or change subscription options: > https://adm

Middle mouse button paste

2013-07-11 Thread Ian Chapman
Hi, How do I enable pasting with the middle mouse button in Fedora 19? -- Ian Chapman. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_

Re: Middle mouse button paste

2013-07-11 Thread Ranjan Maitra
On Thu, 11 Jul 2013 22:09:09 +0800 Ian Chapman wrote: > Hi, > > How do I enable pasting with the middle mouse button in Fedora 19? This has turned selective on some Firefox sites for me. Everywhere else, it works fine for me (actually issue started from the middle of F18). Here is what I found

Re: [Samba] About NAS versus Samba

2013-07-11 Thread Fernando Lozano
Hi, Hi there, Has anyone tried to configure a NAS server to authenticate users using a Samba PDC, or even a Samba4 DC (AD-compatible) or an IPA server? not in a while, but I have done a samba 3 DC This was not my question. I'm ok running samba 3 DCs. :-) oh but it was! PDC means NT4 style, s

Re: firewalld zone assignment not persistent

2013-07-11 Thread Jerome Yanga
On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 11:51 AM, James Hogarth wrote: > > # firewall-cmd --get-active-zones >> public >> interfaces: p7p1 p2p1 >> # firewall-cmd --permanent --zone=internal --change-interface=p7p1 >> > > The man page doesn't refer to --change be acceptable with --permanent > > Just tested this

Re: what has 'yum update' done?

2013-07-11 Thread Heinz Diehl
On 11.07.2013, Joe Zeff wrote: > There are always going to be people who prefer to start fresh with a clean > install of every version, and some of them are going to recommend it to > others, often without explaining why they prefer it. I prefer a fresh install over an upgrade because it works (

F19 konsole --title weirdness

2013-07-11 Thread Corinna Vinschen
Hi, I'm having a strange effect with KDE's konsole terminal emulator. I configured multiple keyboard shortcuts to start konsole with ssh to different machines, like this: Alt-A: konsole --title machineA -e slogin machineA Alt-B: konsole --title machineB -e slogin machineB Alt-C: konso

RE: yum groups

2013-07-11 Thread Pittigher, Raymond - ES
> After a fedup to version 19 I no longer can add or remove groups. If I try to > remove a desktop or even do a group list I get this message: > > yum group list > Loaded plugins: langpacks, refresh-packagekit > There is no installed groups file. > Available environment groups: > GNOME Deskto

Re: F19 konsole --title weirdness

2013-07-11 Thread Corinna Vinschen
On Jul 11 17:38, Corinna Vinschen wrote: > Hi, > > I'm having a strange effect with KDE's konsole terminal emulator. > I configured multiple keyboard shortcuts to start konsole with ssh to > different machines, like this: > > Alt-A: konsole --title machineA -e slogin machineA > Alt-B: kon

Re: Mailing List Etiquette (was Re: can't run sshd on 23456 in Fedora 19)

2013-07-11 Thread Thomas Dineen
Second the motion to unsubscribe him! On 7/11/2013 5:16 AM, Tim wrote: Tim: I'll go even further. Since he's shown no evidence of stopping doing it, unsubscribe him. We're all better off without it. Timothy Murphy: You are definitely wrong there. I for one would not be better of

Re: [Samba] About NAS versus Samba

2013-07-11 Thread Fernando Lozano
Hi, No, they all write their own these days. None available to license as far as I'm aware. Most times the "proprietary" NAS software is simply a web interface over a standard Linux/FreeBSD OS using Samba. If you know Samba and Linux, the web interface may be a hurdle, not allowing access to

SSD lifetime saving

2013-07-11 Thread Mihamina Rakotomandimby
Hi all, Just bought a Samsung 840 Pro SSD and would like to know how to save its lifetime. I made this partitionning: Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/sda1 *2048409620472048 83 Linux /dev/sda240962048819220472048

Re: Disabling ipv6

2013-07-11 Thread Fernando Lozano
Hi Tim, Many ISPs will, also, have to buy new equipment. For some of them, at great expense. They're not going to do that unless they have to. Some have been avoiding it just because the technicalities of it are a new nightmare that they don't want to have to deal with (new security issues, n

Re: yum groups

2013-07-11 Thread Joachim Backes
On 07/11/2013 05:42 PM, Pittigher, Raymond - ES wrote: After a fedup to version 19 I no longer can add or remove groups. If I try to remove a desktop or even do a group list I get this message: yum group list Loaded plugins: langpacks, refresh-packagekit There is no installed groups file. Ava

Re: AW: [Samba] About NAS versus Samba

2013-07-11 Thread Fernando Lozano
Hi, what about the samba running on your NAS. I did a lot of NAS hacking pointing a running samba/winbind config of the vendor to my nt-style samba/ldap domain . But if you do so be aware you are loosing your support :-). So if you can change the samba on your NAS you are up and running. I don

Re: Disabling ipv6

2013-07-11 Thread Fernando Lozano
Hi, On 07/10/2013 09:14 PM, ferna...@lozano.eti.br wrote: And while we work out IPv6 and improve it, all users should be vulnerable to current IPv6 problems? Are they supposed to be guinea pigs for ipv6 development? No, of course not. I never said that everybody should have IPv6 active. Wh

Re: Disabling ipv6

2013-07-11 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Fernando Lozano said: > Would this be so bad? Most people at work have been working using > NAT for years. NAT increases security. Most internet users don't > need to run servers. NAT does NOT increase security. NAT is a combination of a stateful firewall with a packet mangler;

Re: Disabling ipv6

2013-07-11 Thread Fernando Lozano
Hi, Would this be so bad? Most people at work have been working using NAT for years. NAT increases security. Most internet users don't need to run servers. NAT does NOT increase security. NAT is a combination of a stateful firewall with a packet mangler; the security comes from the firewall, no

Re: Scanner recommendations needed

2013-07-11 Thread Paolo Galtieri
I've used both an HP m1522nf and an Epson Workforce 630 all in one printer/scanner/copier/fax with Fedora 14 and 16 with no issues using simple-scan. Paolo On 07/10/2013 03:52 AM, linuxnuts...@videotron.ca wrote: I've tried several scanners from fedora 12 through fedora 17. The latest effort

Re: [Samba] About NAS versus Samba

2013-07-11 Thread Fernando Lozano
Hi Tony, RE: [Samba] About NAS versus Samba I've had experience with a Western Digital "MyBook Live DUO", and it does NOT support any type of network authentication. Users must be created and deleted on that device. Thanks. May good for home use, but not for my employee. Anyway a vendor

Re: Mailing List Etiquette (was Re: can't run sshd on 23456 in Fedora 19)

2013-07-11 Thread Michael Hennebry
On Wed, 10 Jul 2013, Joe Zeff wrote: On 07/10/2013 09:49 AM, Timothy Murphy wrote: I've also received several bits of helpful advice from yourself, served up as one would expect from an Englishman(?). Overdone and served with mushy vegetables that have been cooked to death? Well, at least i

Re: Mailing List Etiquette (was Re: can't run sshd on 23456 in Fedora 19)

2013-07-11 Thread Joe Zeff
On 07/11/2013 05:11 AM, Tim wrote: No, it's called reverse do unto others. i.e. It's perfectly fine to treat people in the same way that they treat you. And I reserve the right to be just as hypocritical as the next person, for I am not going to have rules applied to me that aren't applied to e

Re: Mailing List Etiquette (was Re: can't run sshd on 23456 in Fedora 19)

2013-07-11 Thread Joe Zeff
On 07/11/2013 08:50 AM, Thomas Dineen wrote: Second the motion to unsubscribe him! Which one? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wi

Re: Fwd: OpenJDK packaging bug in Fedora 19

2013-07-11 Thread Fernando Lozano
Hi Jiri, Luckily (or not? - because it passed update test) this do not happen always. And unluckily this was bugged after the f19 freeze - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=979128 I think I will abandon whole update alternatives process and come with direct remove/add as this is

Re: Fwd: OpenJDK packaging bug in Fedora 19

2013-07-11 Thread Joe Zeff
On 07/11/2013 10:14 AM, Fernando Lozano wrote: But why is the bug marked as "CLOSED WORKSFORME"? I've always considered that as a copout by somebody who isn't interested in fixing what they consider an insignificant bug. More than once I've had somebody ask for more, very specific informati

Re: Fwd: OpenJDK packaging bug in Fedora 19

2013-07-11 Thread Matthew Miller
On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 02:14:20PM -0300, Fernando Lozano wrote: > >I think I will abandon whole update alternatives process and come > >with direct remove/add as this is not firs time when alternatives > >behaved .. as they do. But until now it was always catch in time. > Please don't drop altern

Re: Mailing List Etiquette (was Re: can't run sshd on 23456 in Fedora 19)

2013-07-11 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On 10 Jul 2013 21:13, "Joe Zeff" wrote: > > On 07/10/2013 01:02 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: >> >> >> And you're saying this is a *good* thing? You may not mind it >> personally, but please don't try to argue that it's other than a mistake. > > > No, which is why I made the comment about Henry H

Re: Fwd: OpenJDK packaging bug in Fedora 19

2013-07-11 Thread Rex Dieter
Matthew Miller wrote: > I always find > > $ rpm -qf `which java` > file /usr/bin/java is not owned by any package > > to be very frustrating. Ditto. I've been meaning to write a packaging draft to the alternatives guidelines to enforce the idea that packages MUST own their 'alternatives' t

Better alternatives [Was: OpenJDK packaging bug in Fedora 19]

2013-07-11 Thread Fernando Lozano
Hi, I think I will abandon whole update alternatives process and come with direct remove/add as this is not firs time when alternatives behaved .. as they do. But until now it was always catch in time. Please don't drop alternatives from OpenJDK. ;-) It's a really messy way to get the wanted r

F19 github and passwords

2013-07-11 Thread Frank Murphy
In a terminal I do git push https://my/repo master A OpenSSH popup keeps asking me for user and password. /usr/lib/~/gnome-ask-password How can I get it just to memorize my password, have added ssh key to github account. have added *github.com to ~/.ssh/config along with identityfile=id_mysshke

Re: F19 github and passwords

2013-07-11 Thread Stephen Gallagher
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 07/11/2013 02:07 PM, Frank Murphy wrote: > In a terminal I do git push https://my/repo master > > A OpenSSH popup keeps asking me for user and password. > /usr/lib/~/gnome-ask-password > > How can I get it just to memorize my password, have added

Re: Disabling ipv6

2013-07-11 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Fernando Lozano said: > If NAT prevents anyone from the internet to try to connect to my > computer, this is increased security. After all, don't we configure > firewalls exactly to prevent unwanted connections? Use the firewall, ditch the NAT. NAT does not increase security ov

Re: OpenJDK packaging bug in Fedora 19

2013-07-11 Thread Tom Horsley
On Thu, 11 Jul 2013 12:54:36 -0500 Rex Dieter wrote: > > $ rpm -qf `which java` > > file /usr/bin/java is not owned by any package > > > > to be very frustrating. > > Ditto. I've been meaning to write a packaging draft to the alternatives > guidelines to enforce the idea that packages MUST

Re: F19 github and passwords

2013-07-11 Thread Frank Murphy
On Thu, 11 Jul 2013 14:10:38 -0400 Stephen Gallagher wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 07/11/2013 02:07 PM, Frank Murphy wrote: > > In a terminal I do git push https://my/repo master > > > > A OpenSSH popup keeps asking me for user and password. > > /usr/lib/~/gnom

Re: Mailing List Etiquette (was Re: can't run sshd on 23456 in Fedora 19)

2013-07-11 Thread Joe Zeff
On 07/11/2013 10:51 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: And BTW Dai is the Welsh diminutive for David, so I'm afraid you lost me there. If you listen to the song, you'll hear that that's the way she pronounces it. It just seems so much more appropriate that way because using the conventional spel

Re: OpenJDK packaging bug in Fedora 19

2013-07-11 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Tom Horsley said: > On Thu, 11 Jul 2013 12:54:36 -0500 > Rex Dieter wrote: > > Ditto. I've been meaning to write a packaging draft to the alternatives > > guidelines to enforce the idea that packages MUST own their 'alternatives' > > targets > > But how can multiple packages

Re: Disabling ipv6

2013-07-11 Thread Joe Zeff
On 07/11/2013 11:12 AM, Chris Adams wrote: Use the firewall, ditch the NAT. NAT does not increase security over a firewall. In some cases, NAT prevents a user from accessing the Internet, rather than the other way around. Can you give a practical example, please. I've no reason to disbelieve

Re: OpenJDK packaging bug in Fedora 19

2013-07-11 Thread Joe Zeff
On 07/11/2013 11:41 AM, Chris Adams wrote: IMHO that would make things even easier to figure out; "rpm -qf /usr/bin/java" would list all the packages that can "claim" java. Would it, or would it just find the first one and stop? I'm asking because I don't know enough about how rpm handles suc

Re: OpenJDK packaging bug in Fedora 19

2013-07-11 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Joe Zeff said: > On 07/11/2013 11:41 AM, Chris Adams wrote: > >IMHO that would make things even easier to > >figure out; "rpm -qf /usr/bin/java" would list all the packages that can > >"claim" java. > > Would it, or would it just find the first one and stop? I'm asking > becaus

Re: Disabling ipv6

2013-07-11 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Joe Zeff said: > On 07/11/2013 11:12 AM, Chris Adams wrote: > >Use the firewall, ditch the NAT. NAT does not increase security over a > >firewall. In some cases, NAT prevents a user from accessing the > >Internet, rather than the other way around. > > Can you give a practical

Re: Disabling ipv6

2013-07-11 Thread Richard Sewill
I turned on IPv6 in my router. I am still getting 6to4 Tunnel from my ISP. Netflix is currently streaming so my network is not idle. I tried ping and ping6 anyway. This is NOT on an idle network. rsewill@localhost:~ <3:3> $ ping www.google.com PING www.google.com (74.125.227.146) 56(84) bytes

Re: OpenJDK packaging bug in Fedora 19

2013-07-11 Thread Tom Horsley
On Thu, 11 Jul 2013 14:09:26 -0500 Chris Adams wrote: > Oh, one example is multilib (and I don't believe this behavior is > multilib-specific): Oh but it is. Multilib is one gigantic undocumented screwup that exists only because someone wanted to avoid having to repackage everything in the univer

Re: OpenJDK packaging bug in Fedora 19

2013-07-11 Thread Joe Zeff
On 07/11/2013 12:09 PM, Chris Adams wrote: You can also have shared files, when the contents, ownership, and permissions on the files match, and rpm will list all matches. I can't think of an example off the top of my head, but I know I've seen it in the past. Thank you. It's good to know tha

Re: Disabling ipv6

2013-07-11 Thread Joe Zeff
On 07/11/2013 12:12 PM, Chris Adams wrote: I've seen people with double-NAT issues before, where "special" protocols like FTP or game console can't traverse the double-NAT. I'm not quite sure what you mean here. Are you referring to having one router "behind" another, with both using NAT? I

Re: Disabling ipv6

2013-07-11 Thread staticsafe
On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 02:20:37PM -0500, Richard Sewill wrote: > I turned on IPv6 in my router. > > I am still getting 6to4 Tunnel from my ISP. > > Netflix is currently streaming so my network is not idle. > > I tried ping and ping6 anyway. This is NOT on an idle network. > > There remains a

Re: Disabling ipv6

2013-07-11 Thread staticsafe
On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 12:36:10PM -0700, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 07/11/2013 12:12 PM, Chris Adams wrote: > >I've seen people with double-NAT issues before, where "special" > >protocols like FTP or game console can't traverse the double-NAT. > > I'm not quite sure what you mean here. Are you referri

Re: Disabling ipv6

2013-07-11 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Richard Sewill said: > I tried ping and ping6 anyway. This is NOT on an idle network. Since ICMP and ICMPv6 are low-priority, the data is not very useful. Also, since latency is only one component of throughput (and most communications are not particularly sensitive to latency

Re: OpenJDK packaging bug in Fedora 19

2013-07-11 Thread Matthew Miller
On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 03:26:33PM -0400, Tom Horsley wrote: > > Oh, one example is multilib (and I don't believe this behavior is > > multilib-specific): > Oh but it is. Multilib is one gigantic undocumented screwup The specific thing in multilib is that the files can overlap without being identi

mounting USB/SD card devices (question rephrased)

2013-07-11 Thread Ranjan Maitra
Hi, I asked this question last night but did not get any response. Let me a bit clearer on what I am looking for. I have a minimal install and a F-19 LXDE spin install on two separate machines. I also have pcmanfm (along with whatever dependencies gets pulled in) in either places. When I plug in

Re: Disabling ipv6

2013-07-11 Thread Michael Cronenworth
On 07/11/2013 02:47 PM, Chris Adams wrote: > No, when both are available, IPv6 takes precedence (in general for > modern applications that don't override the precedence); this is spelled > out in several RFCs (can't recall the numbers). I think there is a > global way to override this (maybe /etc/

how to pxe boot using Fedora 19 live CDs

2013-07-11 Thread Jerome Yanga
I have tried many configs and have failed to pxe boot a live Fedora 19 cd. I need help in the boot parameters. Here is my current one. LABEL fedora_x86_64_19 MENU LABEL ^1) Fedora 19 x86_64 Live MENU INDENT 1 KERNEL knl/vmlinuz_fedora_19_x86_64_live_desktop APPEND initrd=img/initrd_fedora_19

Re: how to pxe boot using Fedora 19 live CDs

2013-07-11 Thread Jerome Yanga
On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 1:04 PM, Jerome Yanga wrote: > I have tried many configs and have failed to pxe boot a live Fedora 19 cd. > I need help in the boot parameters. Here is my current one. > > LABEL fedora_x86_64_19 > MENU LABEL ^1) Fedora 19 x86_64 Live > MENU INDENT 1 > KERNEL knl/vmlinu

Re: Mailing List Etiquette (was Re: can't run sshd on 23456 in Fedora 19)

2013-07-11 Thread Paul Frields
On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 9:02 AM, David wrote: > > > Paul Fields. > > After many, to many, days of this drivel would you please make this go away? Yes. Let's please consider this thread closed. It's no longer serving any useful purpose for offering assistance to Fedora users. The moderators have

Re: yum groups

2013-07-11 Thread Frank McCormick
On 07/11/2013 12:21 PM, Joachim Backes wrote: On 07/11/2013 05:42 PM, Pittigher, Raymond - ES wrote: After a fedup to version 19 I no longer can add or remove groups. If I try to remove a desktop or even do a group list I get this message: yum group list Loaded plugins: langpacks, refresh-pa

Re: Disabling ipv6

2013-07-11 Thread Joe Zeff
On 07/11/2013 12:45 PM, staticsafe wrote: Some ISPs deploy something known as CGN (Carrier-Grade NAT) due the the IPv4 shortage, in which case if your "gateway" device at home is also doing NAT, you have double NAT. Gotcha. However, as my modem does NAT, I'm behind a double NAT. Maybe I'm ju

Re: OpenJDK packaging bug in Fedora 19

2013-07-11 Thread Tom Horsley
On Thu, 11 Jul 2013 15:48:15 -0400 Matthew Miller wrote: > The specific thing in multilib is that the files can overlap without being > identical. In perfectly normal RPM, two packages can own an identical file > as long as it is actually bit-for-bit identical. (This is, of course, > fragile when

Re: [389-users] problems with dsgw

2013-07-11 Thread Rich Megginson
On 07/11/2013 02:32 PM, Barton, Joseph B. wrote: Hi, I am just starting to work with 389 on centos 6.3 , and run into a bit of a snag on a test install of 389. Everything seems to work fine with the basic install. I am able to access the /usr/bin/389-console, run commands from a prompt, plus

Fedup from 17 -> 19 okay?

2013-07-11 Thread Robert Arkiletian
Can I skip 18 and upgrade from 17 to 19 with fedup? Has anyone tried this with success or failure? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mai

Re: OpenJDK packaging bug in Fedora 19

2013-07-11 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Tom Horsley said: > Then why, in Fedora 18, did yum start giving fatal errors and > refuse to install packages that tried to create the same > directory? (Which is why I suspect there are a gazillion > rpms named "something-filesystem-something.rpm" that just > create directories

Re: SSD lifetime saving

2013-07-11 Thread lee
Mihamina Rakotomandimby writes: > Hi all, > > Just bought a Samsung 840 Pro SSD and would like to know how to save > its lifetime. > I made this partitionning: >Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System > /dev/sda1 *2048409620472048 83 Linux > /dev/s

Re: what has 'yum update' done?

2013-07-11 Thread lee
Joe Zeff writes: > On 07/10/2013 03:06 PM, lee wrote: >> When upgrading Fedora the way it's recommended works so well, then how >> come that people are suggesting that it's better/easier to re-install or >> to use an alternative, untested method? >> > > There are always going to be people who pre

Re: OT: bash help

2013-07-11 Thread Cameron Simpson
On 07Jul2013 20:38, Ian Malone wrote: | On 7 July 2013 20:18, Mike Wright wrote: | >>> I'm trying to write a bash command to transcode some videos into audios | >>> but am having trouble with filenames that contain spaces. | >>> | >>> ls *flv | >>> | >>> returns this: | >>> | >>> Jorge Drexler -

Re: [OT] Seth Vidal, creator of "yum" killed in bike accident

2013-07-11 Thread Paul W. Frields
On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 11:33:15AM +1000, Roger wrote: > > >It typically takes a few days for the family to sort things out > >after an unexpected death. I expect when the family makes it known > >what they want, that information will be made available to our > >community. > > One of the primary

Re: Mailing List Etiquette (was Re: can't run sshd on 23456 in Fedora 19)

2013-07-11 Thread Paul W. Frields
On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 04:42:02PM -0400, Paul Frields wrote: > On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 9:02 AM, David wrote: > > > > > > Paul Fields. > > > > After many, to many, days of this drivel would you please make this go away? > > Yes. Let's please consider this thread closed. It's no longer serving >

grub2

2013-07-11 Thread Patrick Dupre
Hello, How can I say to grub2-mkconfig to not scan /dev/sdax? Thank. === Patrick DUPRÉ                                 | | email: pdu...@gmx.com Laboratoire de Physico-Chimie de l'Atmosphère | | Université du Littoral-Côt

Re: custom startup script

2013-07-11 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 10.07.2013 18:25, schrieb Jerome Yanga: > On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 9:19 AM, Jerome Yanga > wrote: > > Hi all! > > In the past, I would create custom startup scripts and create a link in > the /etc/rc.d/rc5.d/ directory. > > Is this still a good pr

Re: Mailing List Etiquette (was Re: can't run sshd on 23456 in Fedora 19)

2013-07-11 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 10.07.2013 15:39, schrieb Patrick O'Callaghan: > > On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 2:13 PM, Vaclav Mocek > wrote: > > Keep in mind that English is not native language of all of us and we may > sound rude even if we don't want to be. > > I think we all make allowan

Re: Does anybody know what package this is in....?

2013-07-11 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 10.07.2013 22:43, schrieb Bill Oliver: > I just had the oddest thing happen to me. I performed a multipackage update > on F19. I don't remember what > packages, it was just one of those notifications of "You have 18 updates > pending" and I hit "Update." > > When I rebooted my box, my als

Re: Mailing List Etiquette (was Re: can't run sshd on 23456 in Fedora 19)

2013-07-11 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 11.07.2013 14:11, schrieb Tim: > On Wed, 2013-07-10 at 09:34 -0500, Matthew J. Roth wrote: >> It's ironic that you're using personal insults and borderline profane >> language in your condemnation of Harald. > > No, it's called reverse do unto others. i.e. It's perfectly fine to > treat peopl

Re: Mailing List Etiquette (was Re: can't run sshd on 23456 in Fedora 19)

2013-07-11 Thread Reindl Harald
thank you! the really sad is that most of ym own replies are still hanging in the moderation since nearly 24 hours and this shows *clearly* that the moderation does *not* work for two possible reasons: * they say "ah i do not like thos guy, delay it" * they are far away from computers - how can t

Re: Mailing List Etiquette (was Re: can't run sshd on 23456 in Fedora 19)

2013-07-11 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 11.07.2013 15:02, schrieb David: > > > Paul Fields. > > After many, to many, days of this drivel would you please make this go away? after 36 hours some posts of me should be released to express my point of view and *that* is why i often response with "Reply All" because the current modera

Re: OpenJDK packaging bug in Fedora 19

2013-07-11 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 11.07.2013 21:26, schrieb Tom Horsley: > On Thu, 11 Jul 2013 14:09:26 -0500 > Chris Adams wrote: > >> Oh, one example is multilib (and I don't believe this behavior is >> multilib-specific): > > Oh but it is. Multilib is one gigantic undocumented screwup > that exists only because someone wa

Re: OpenJDK packaging bug in Fedora 19

2013-07-11 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 11.07.2013 22:51, schrieb Tom Horsley: > On Thu, 11 Jul 2013 15:48:15 -0400 > Matthew Miller wrote: > >> The specific thing in multilib is that the files can overlap without being >> identical. In perfectly normal RPM, two packages can own an identical file >> as long as it is actually bit-fo

Re: F19 grub error after update

2013-07-11 Thread Richard Vickery
you might want to undo the grub2 commands and forget about reinstalling grub; what possessed to do this? On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 2:35 AM, Zhang San wrote: > I update my F19 box and reinstall grub with > grub2-install --force /dev/sda3 > grub2-mkconfig -o /boot/grub2/grub.cfg . > Then rebo

Re: F19 grub error after update

2013-07-11 Thread Richard Vickery
On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 8:58 PM, Richard Vickery wrote: > > > On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 2:35 AM, Zhang San wrote: >> I update my F19 box and reinstall grub with >> grub2-install --force /dev/sda3 >> grub2-mkconfig -o /boot/grub2/grub.cfg . >> Then reboot fails, with the error >> symbol 'gru

Re: [OT] Seth Vidal, creator of "yum" killed in bike accident

2013-07-11 Thread Aradenatorix Veckhom Vacelaevus
It's a very, very sad news. No matter if he was a developer or what, this kind of facts always are sad. We hope he can reast in peace u_u 2013/7/11 Paul W. Frields > On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 11:33:15AM +1000, Roger wrote: > > > > >It typically takes a few days for the family to sort things out >

Re: Mailing List Etiquette (was Re: can't run sshd on 23456 in Fedora 19)

2013-07-11 Thread Joe Zeff
On 07/10/2013 07:24 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: and on the other side i make a better job as syadmin and developer like a lot of people, native speakers or not, so what is your point here? that i should set my focus to a perfect english and political correctness instead technical facts? sorry, my d

Scala can't be installed in Fedora 19

2013-07-11 Thread Isaac Cortés González
So I'm trying to install scala in Fedora 19; but I'm getting an error message by yum: >Resolviendo dependencias >--> Ejecutando prueba de transacción >---> Paquete scala.noarch 0:2.9.2-2.fc19 debe ser instalado >--> Procesando dependencias: osgi(org.scala-ide.scala.library) para el >paquete: scal

Re: Mailing List Etiquette (was Re: can't run sshd on 23456 in Fedora 19)

2013-07-11 Thread Joe Zeff
On 07/11/2013 05:47 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 11.07.2013 14:11, schrieb Tim: >On Wed, 2013-07-10 at 09:34 -0500, Matthew J. Roth wrote: >>It's ironic that you're using personal insults and borderline profane >>language in your condemnation of Harald. > >No, it's called reverse do unto others

Re: what has 'yum update' done?

2013-07-11 Thread Joe Zeff
On 07/11/2013 01:27 PM, lee wrote: I have been assuming that people re-install because their experience is that upgrading is so troublesome that they figure that they're better off re-installing. Why would anyone go to the lengths of re-installing if there weren't very serious problems with upgr

crypted partition

2013-07-11 Thread Patrick Dupre
Hello, I have a luks partition which is mount at boot time: in /etc/fstab: /dev/mapper/luks-21e00840-01b6-4ba1-8ab2-d4cfe70430e8 /home How can I know what is the physical partition ? df gives: /dev/dm-16   /home blkid gives: /dev/mapper/luks-21e00840-01b6-4ba1-8ab2-d4cfe70430e8: UUID="85da123b-7

Re: [OT] Seth Vidal, creator of "yum" killed in bike accident

2013-07-11 Thread Ranjan Maitra
> > Seth was well known and attended many Fedora events worldwide. He was > > very much respected by those who knew his work, and loved by those who > > knew him personally. I'm glad to see so many people unified in the > > feeling he'll be dearly missed. > > > > -- > > Paul W. Frields

Re: Mailing List Etiquette (was Re: can't run sshd on 23456 in Fedora 19)

2013-07-11 Thread Edwardo Garcia
Weitse kicked him off the postfix list a few weeks ago, and that's a man with incredible patience and tolerance, and the roundcube people also moderated him a week ago, he is close to being moderated on dovecot list as well, and god knows how many other list This goes to show pattern he does not c

Re: grub2

2013-07-11 Thread Cameron Simpson
On 11Jul2013 18:27, Patrick Dupre wrote: | How can I say to grub2-mkconfig to not scan /dev/sdax? This: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Invoking-grub_002dmkconfig suggests that you can't. Is it enough to edit the generated config after the fact? -- Cameron Simpson GET ON

RE: yum groups

2013-07-11 Thread Pittigher, Raymond - ES
>> >>> After a fedup to version 19 I no longer can add or remove groups. If >>> I try to remove a desktop or even do a group list I get this message: >>> >>> yum group list >>> Loaded plugins: langpacks, refresh-packagekit >>> There is no installed groups file. >>> Available environment groups: >>

Re: [OT] Seth Vidal, creator of "yum" killed in bike accident

2013-07-11 Thread Isaac Cortés González
I support the idea, it should be done at least something like when Verne was released and Dennis Ritchie, not only the Fedora Community has lost a great developer; but also CentOS and RHEL. -Isaac C. 2013/7/11 Ranjan Maitra : > >> > Seth was well known and attended many Fedora events wor

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