Re: Fedora vs RHEL

Allegedly, on or about 13 April 2013, Beartooth sent: > RedHat, with clients who need massive support, doesn't want > Jill's business. But (sez me) there are enough of her now to support a > start-up entrepreneur who does; and in a few years there'll be enough > more to support a thriving

Re: Fedora vs RHEL

Allegedly, on or about 13 April 2013, David sent: > I actually know several (nine) 'old time Linux' users and some are ex > Redhat employes as well as commercial (as in paid sys admins) that say > that the Ubuntu list is full of useless information. Much of it flat out > wrong. Careful. The usual t

Re: Fedora vs RHEL

Allegedly, on or about 13 April 2013, Joe Zeff sent: > My guess is that your reference counts servers, because mine gets most > of its numbers from webserver hit logs. Unless you can see access statistics from some very general purpose website (i.e. one that everyone might use, like Google), as op

Re: configuring fetchmail while accessing internet from behind proxy server using IMAP with an exchange server

Allegedly, on or about 13 April 2013, Ranjan Maitra sent: > I am not quite sure what information I can supply. My proxy server to > access the internet is xxx.xxx.xx.x:8080. (Of course, this is what I > have to do to use the browser.) I am able to tweak settings in > yum.conf to yum. But am lost on

Re: Fedora vs RHEL

Am 14.04.2013 13:29, schrieb Tim: > Over the years, I've watched the stats from my website, which isn't > really aimed at computer users, but I'd still never claim it to be > representative of the internet users on the whole. I've seen MSIE fall > off its perch, many years ago. It used to be ab

Re: Fedora vs RHEL

On 4/13/2013 9:30 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 04/13/2013 05:53 PM, David wrote: >> I really*do not know* exactly what the usage number means. But I do >> 'know' that - or think that putting 'grandma' over to Linux, IMHO, would >> not be a good idea. :-) > > *Shrug!* As long as she's not too far aw

Re: Fedora vs RHEL

On 4/14/2013 7:06 AM, Tim wrote: > Allegedly, on or about 13 April 2013, David sent: >> I actually know several (nine) 'old time Linux' users and some are ex >> Redhat employes as well as commercial (as in paid sys admins) that say >> that the Ubuntu list is full of useless information. Much of it

Re: Fedora vs RHEL

On 4/14/2013 7:29 AM, Tim wrote: > Allegedly, on or about 13 April 2013, Joe Zeff sent: >> My guess is that your reference counts servers, because mine gets most >> of its numbers from webserver hit logs. > > Unless you can see access statistics from some very general purpose > website (i.e. one t

Re: Fedora vs RHEL

On 04/14/2013 04:47 AM, David wrote: My mother, 'grandma', lives in central Florida. I live in Seattle. I do tech support for my older sister. We share a condo. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/ma

Re: Fedora vs RHEL

On 4/14/2013 10:27 AM, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 04/14/2013 04:47 AM, David wrote: >> My mother, 'grandma', lives in central Florida. I live in Seattle. > > I do tech support for my older sister. We share a condo. Well I guess that is close enough to be within walking distance. And definitely closer

Re: Fedora vs RHEL

Tim: >> Unless you can see access statistics from some very general purpose >> website (i.e. one that everyone might use, like Google), as opposed to >> the stats from specialist websites (web designers, Linux users), the >> results are going to be horribly skewed. David: > Statistics such as thes

Re: Fedora vs RHEL

On 4/14/2013 11:24 AM, Tim wrote: > Tim: >>> Unless you can see access statistics from some very general purpose >>> website (i.e. one that everyone might use, like Google), as opposed to >>> the stats from specialist websites (web designers, Linux users), the >>> results are going to be horribly s

Re: DSoD : Diagonal Screen of Death

Yep I get the same particularly with Firewalld and NetworkManager/Connections. Its only on one machine, all my others are fine. On 11 April 2013 21:54, Beartooth wrote: > On Tue, 09 Apr 2013 22:59:36 +0930, Tim wrote: > > > Allegedly, on or about 08 April 2013, Beartooth sent: > >> On Fedora 17

Re: Fedora vs RHEL

On 04/13/2013 05:07 PM, David wrote: <<>> If you look at the latest numbers, March 2013, you will see that there are more than two times the number of users of Mac over Linux. and if you read where the get their numbers, you will see that l

Re: Fedora vs RHEL

On 04/13/2013 05:20 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: <<> My guess is that your reference counts servers, because mine gets most of its numbers from webserver hit logs. web server hits is a more realistic view of what is in use. -- in a world with out fences, who needs gates. tc. hago. g . -- users ma

Re: Fedora vs RHEL

On 04/14/2013 06:29 AM, Tim wrote: <<>> Every now and then there's some interesting things in the access logs, like a C64. I'm not sure if someone's being humerous, or whether it the actual device. I know it can do it, just whether anybody would actually bother... i would venture to say tha

Re: Fedora vs RHEL

On 04/14/2013 06:50 AM, David wrote: <<>> Fix it? She has never broken it. then she may have very little installed, other than basic install. It became the biggest OS infestation by devious business practices >> shoehorning it into personal computers. Careful. Your paranoia is showing.

Re: Fedora vs RHEL

On 04/13/2013 04:32 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: <> Pizza, chocolate-chip cookies or other snacks are often the unit of payment in this case. put plenty of anchovies on my pizza, please. -- in a world with out fences, who needs gates. tc. hago. g . -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.

F 18 problem accessing external usb drives with XFS

I have a couple of external disks that I formatted in XFS using F11, I think for data backup. Now with a new F 18 installation, when I plug in the drive, the disk icons appear on the desktop, but when I try to access them, I get an error message stating that the contents cannot be displayed due

Re: F 18 problem accessing external usb drives with XFS

On 04/15/13 05:33, Paul Erickson wrote: > I have a couple of external disks that I formatted in XFS using F11, I think > for data backup. Now with a new F 18 installation, when I plug > in the drive, the disk icons appear on the desktop, but when I try to access > them, I get an error message sta

Re: F 18 problem accessing external usb drives with XFS

On 04/14/2013 03:21 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 04/15/13 05:33, Paul Erickson wrote: I have a couple of external disks that I formatted in XFS using F11, I think for data backup. Now with a new F 18 installation, when I plug in the drive, the disk icons appear on the desktop, but when I try to acc

Re: Fedora vs RHEL

On 04/12/2013 12:14 PM, Tethys wrote: The annoying thing is, I'd*gladly* pay Red Hat for support, if they'd charge me a sensible amount. I'd install RHEL in a heartbeat to get support for it. But given the minimum Red Hat support charge is several thousand, it's simply out of my price range:-(

Re: F 18 problem accessing external usb drives with XFS

Hi In case it will not solve the problem,can you please send the output of dmesg after you get the error you mentioned? Regards Rami Rosen On Apr 15, 2013 1:51 AM, "Paul Erickson" wrote: > On 04/14/2013 03:21 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: > >> On 04/15/13 05:33, Paul Erickson wrote: >> >>> I have a coup

App. for Instagram in Fedora

Is there a replacement App for Instagram in Fedora. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away:

F18 fails to install on Toshiba Satellite M860

Hi, I tried but failed to install F18 from Live CD F18 X64 on Toshiba Satellite M860, Processor Core i7, Ram 4G. It is a 64-bit machine and brand new with pre-installed Windows 8. I want to have dual-boot system. The message is the following: [ 0.939290] Couldn't get size: 0x8

Re: F18 fails to install on Toshiba Satellite M860

On 04/15/13 07:49, Abu Attar Musharih wrote: > Hi, > > I tried but failed to install F18 from Live CD F18 X64 on Toshiba Satellite > M860, Processor Core i7, Ram 4G. It is a 64-bit machine and brand new with > pre-installed Windows 8. I want to have dual-boot system. The message is the > foll

Re: Dell Inspiron 1100 and Intel 82845 video problems

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Re: F18 fails to install on Toshiba Satellite M860

On 04/14/2013 08:05 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 04/15/13 07:49, Abu Attar Musharih wrote: Hi, I tried but failed to install F18 from Live CD F18 X64 on Toshiba Satellite M860, Processor Core i7, Ram 4G. It is a 64-bit machine and brand new with pre-installed Windows 8. I want to have dual-boo

SELinux fails to apply local policy module

Hi, I use CrossOver (based on Wine) to run a Windows game. Everytime CrossOver runs something, I get this avc denial. SELinux is preventing wine-preloader from mmap_zero access on the memprotect . Raw Audit Messages from sealert: type=AVC msg=audit(1365802456.473:13663): avc: denied { mm

Re: Fedora vs RHEL

On 04/12/2013 05:06 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 12.04.2013 12:01, schrieb Mihamina Rakotomandimby: On 2013-04-12 12:58, Mike Dwiggins wrote: Does there exist anywhere a list or comparison about which Releases of Fedora correspond to what Releases of RHEL? I would not directly compare those,

Re: Fedora vs RHEL

On 04/12/2013 05:09 AM, Mike Dwiggins wrote: On 4/12/2013 3:01 AM, Mihamina Rakotomandimby wrote: On 2013-04-12 12:58, Mike Dwiggins wrote: Does there exist anywhere a list or comparison about which Releases of Fedora correspond to what Releases of RHEL? I would not directly compare those, a

Re: Fedora vs RHEL

On 04/12/2013 02:14 PM, Tethys wrote: On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 8:08 PM, Paul W. Frields wrote: If you install Fedora, what you get for support is, essentially, answers people are willing to give you for free here, in forums, in IRC, and so on. If you install CentOS or SL, I believe the answer

Re: Fedora vs RHEL

On 04/13/2013 07:53 PM, David wrote: On 4/13/2013 6:20 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 04/13/2013 03:07 PM, David wrote: I actually know several (nine) 'old time Linux' users and some are ex Redhat employes as well as commercial (as in paid sys admins) that say that the Ubuntu list is full of useless in

Re: Fedora vs RHEL

On 4/14/2013 10:25 PM, Thomas Cameron wrote: > On 04/13/2013 07:53 PM, David wrote: > > Meh. My mom (nearly 70) and my daughters (6 and 10) all use Linux. My > support level with them is orders of magnitude lower than it was when > they ran Windows. It's also a Hell of a lot easier to fix stuff on

Re: F18 fails to install on Toshiba Satellite M860

On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 8:05 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: > > Not very familiar with it since I've got "older" hardware But, can > you try disabling EFI/UEFI booting in your BIOS? > The EFI/UEFI boot is the boot option under the menu of advanced. Unfortunately, there is no option for disabling

Re: Fedora vs RHEL

Quoting David : On 4/14/2013 10:25 PM, Thomas Cameron wrote: On 04/13/2013 07:53 PM, David wrote: Meh. My mom (nearly 70) and my daughters (6 and 10) all use Linux. My support level with them is orders of magnitude lower than it was when they ran Windows. It's also a Hell of a lot easier to fi

Re: App. for Instagram in Fedora

Why would you want something in Linux that doesn't keep your photos privately yours? You are, of course, aware that Facebook treats you and your information as a product to be sold, and doesn't give you a penny for your contribution? Same thing goes for your photos since Facebook acquired Instigram

Re: Fedora vs RHEL

On 4/14/2013 11:23 PM, Dave Stevens wrote: > Quoting David : > >> On 4/14/2013 10:25 PM, Thomas Cameron wrote: >>> On 04/13/2013 07:53 PM, David wrote: >>> >>> Meh. My mom (nearly 70) and my daughters (6 and 10) all use Linux. My >>> support level with them is orders of magnitude lower than it was

Re: Fedora vs RHEL

On 04/15/2013 01:23 PM, Dave Stevens wrote: Quoting David : On 4/14/2013 10:25 PM, Thomas Cameron wrote: On 04/13/2013 07:53 PM, David wrote: Meh. My mom (nearly 70) and my daughters (6 and 10) all use Linux. My support level with them is orders of magnitude lower than it was when they ran Wi

Re: F18 fails to install on Toshiba Satellite M860

Abu Attar Musharih gmail.com> writes: > > > > On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 8:05 AM, Ed Greshko greshko.com> wrote: > Not very familiar with it since I've got "older" hardware  But, can you try disabling EFI/UEFI booting in your BIOS? > > >  The  EFI/UEFI boot is the boot option under the  me

Re: F18 fails to install on Toshiba Satellite M860

On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 2:25 PM, David G. Miller wrote: > Abu Attar Musharih gmail.com> writes: > > > Try Google with: > > "Toshiba Satellite" disable uefi > > or enable CSM Compatibility Service Module -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription op

Re: Fedora vs RHEL

On 4/14/2013 7:22 PM, Thomas Cameron wrote: Alternatively, you can get a self-support subscription for commercial use for $349: Give $349 to RedHat just for talking to myself(self- support):-); Using either centos or Oracle linux, one also gets self-support without a fee. -- It is

Re: Fedora vs RHEL

On 04/14/2013 11:36 AM, g wrote: On 04/13/2013 05:20 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: <<> My guess is that your reference counts servers, because mine gets most of its numbers from webserver hit logs. web server hits is a more realistic view of what is in use. Not if you want to include servers it isn