Re: F18 defect in playing CDs.

2013-03-30 Thread poma
On 29.03.2013 00:29, Aaron Konstam wrote: > Previously in earlier versions of Fedora under GNOME when you put in a > CD it played the CD with whatever program you indicated should be used > automatically. Now that I have installed F18 on a second machine I found > the same behavior as on the first

Re: Can't Load Fedora 15

2013-03-30 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 30.03.2013 04:51, schrieb Richard Vickery: > Those with much more experience in the group and Linux will tell you that > this version is no longer supported, and > that you should download the current one if you need help. It sounds rather > cold when they say it, but they've > answered the

Re: undo rm -rf *

2013-03-30 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 30.03.2013 04:18, schrieb Bill Davidsen: > Reindl Harald wrote: >> >> >> Am 26.03.2013 21:08, schrieb Rick Stevens: >>> On 03/26/2013 10:35 AM, Reindl Harald issued this missive: Am 26.03.2013 18:03, schrieb Matthew Saltzman: >> this is safe since a very long time >> >>>

best fedora solution to securely erase folders/clean free space?

2013-03-30 Thread M. Fioretti
Greatings, I started reading online to refresh what I knew about secure deletion of files, and being sure that "free space" on an ext3/ext4 partition is surely "free", that is you can't recover the files that _were_ there. After reading this article: http://techthrob.com/2009/03/02/howto-delete-

Re: best fedora solution to securely erase folders/clean free space?

2013-03-30 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 30.03.2013 12:58, schrieb M. Fioretti: > I will (re)study these topics in detail in the next days. My first > interest is to understand if those (or other) tools are enough to be > sure, without reformatting/reinstalling reformat / reinstall does not anything in the direction of the topic > th

Re: best fedora solution to securely erase folders/clean free space?

2013-03-30 Thread M. Fioretti
On Sat, Mar 30, 2013 13:10:57 PM +0100, Reindl Harald wrote: > > dd if/dev/urandom of=random.bin bs=16M; sync; rm -f random.bin thanks. I assume there should be an equal sign after the "if", right? Anyway: - shouldn't this be done several times, to make sure that whatever was in the free space

Re: best fedora solution to securely erase folders/clean free space?

2013-03-30 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 30.03.2013 13:30, schrieb M. Fioretti: > On Sat, Mar 30, 2013 13:10:57 PM +0100, Reindl Harald wrote: >> >> dd if/dev/urandom of=random.bin bs=16M; sync; rm -f random.bin > > thanks. > I assume there should be an equal sign after the "if", right? ups - correct > Anyway: > > - shouldn't thi

Re: best fedora solution to securely erase folders/clean free space?

2013-03-30 Thread M. Fioretti
On Sat, Mar 30, 2013 13:41:20 PM +0100, Reindl Harald wrote: > if you have a virtual machine with growable disks and delete a lot of > data the disk will not get smaller, shrink the disk will not really work > > after write zeros to the free space in the guest you can successful > shrink the virt

Re: Meta-discussions and the role of the Fedora Community

2013-03-30 Thread Gergely Buday
Steven Stern wrote: > If you don't have something nice or helpful to say, don't say it. > > If you need more info, ask for it. If you suspect they don't know what > they're doing, offer some assistance on how they can get that info. > > Quite frankly, if I were a newbie and I had a question and we

Re: best fedora solution to securely erase folders/clean free space?

2013-03-30 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 30.03.2013 13:39, schrieb M. Fioretti: > On Sat, Mar 30, 2013 13:41:20 PM +0100, Reindl Harald wrote: > >> if you have a virtual machine with growable disks and delete a lot of >> data the disk will not get smaller, shrink the disk will not really work >> >> after write zeros to the free spac

Re: best fedora solution to securely erase folders/clean free space?

2013-03-30 Thread Heinz Diehl
On 30.03.2013, M. Fioretti wrote: > - shouldn't this be done several times, to make sure that whatever was > in the free space really is unrecoverable? One single write/overwrite operation is sufficient. No need for more. http://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007%2F978-3-540-89862-7_21 -- us

Re: F18 defect in playing CDs.

2013-03-30 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Fri, 2013-03-29 at 13:36 -0700, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 03/29/2013 01:08 PM, Aaron Konstam wrote: > > I did that and it does not work for me on either of my F18 machines. On > > previous Fedora versions it works so something is wrong. I guess I have > > have to keep searching for an answer. > > Wh

Re: best fedora solution to securely erase folders/clean free space?

2013-03-30 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Sat, Mar 30, 2013 at 12:58:31 +0100, "M. Fioretti" wrote: Greatings, I started reading online to refresh what I knew about secure deletion of files, and being sure that "free space" on an ext3/ext4 partition is surely "free", that is you can't recover the files that _were_ there. There a

Re: difference between output of "yum ps" and "needs-restarting"?

2013-03-30 Thread Georg Wittig
OP here. Additionally, I just discovered strange behavior of the needs-restarting command, 1. After a "yum update" it usually reads lots of data from the net before outputting anything. I don't have any idea what it's reading, and from where and where it stores that data. Why isn't the info

Re: difference between output of "yum ps" and "needs-restarting"?

2013-03-30 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 30.03.2013 16:16, schrieb Georg Wittig: > OP here. > > Additionally, I just discovered strange behavior of the needs-restarting > command, > > 1. After a "yum update" it usually reads lots of data from the net before > outputting anything. I don't have any > idea what it's reading, and fro

Re: best fedora solution to securely erase folders/clean free space?

2013-03-30 Thread M. Fioretti
On Sat, Mar 30, 2013 09:54:41 AM -0500, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > It makes a difference if you are concerned about attacks by users of > the machine, people who grab the machine while it is powered on The two cases above are exactly what I had in mind, regardless of how frequent/realistic they are

fedora 18 and lsi latest kernels don't boot

2013-03-30 Thread Gianluca Cecchi
Hello, default 3.6.10-4.fc18.x86_64 f18 install kernel is ok. Instead both kernel-3.8.4-202.fc18 and 3.7.9-205.fc18 stop at boot with error and systemd emergency shell and journalctl shows like in this picture: https://docs.google.com/file/d/0BwoPbcrMv8mvd0Z0bExhTDYxQjQ/edit?usp=sharing any hint

Re: fedora 18 and lsi latest kernels don't boot

2013-03-30 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 30.03.2013 17:35, schrieb Gianluca Cecchi: > default 3.6.10-4.fc18.x86_64 f18 install kernel is ok. > Instead both kernel-3.8.4-202.fc18 and 3.7.9-205.fc18 > > stop at boot with error and systemd emergency shell and journalctl > shows like in this picture: > > https://docs.google.com/file/d/

Re: Printing jobs

2013-03-30 Thread Richard Vickery
On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 11:06 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 03/30/13 13:03, Richard Vickery wrote: > > can anyone help me figure out what is going on here? I'll look at it in > the morning, but still might not find it on my own. > > > > SELinux is preventing /usr/lib/cups/filter/hpcups from search a

Re: best fedora solution to securely erase folders/clean free space?

2013-03-30 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Sat, Mar 30, 2013 at 17:17:52 +0100, "M. Fioretti" wrote: On Sat, Mar 30, 2013 09:54:41 AM -0500, Bruno Wolff III wrote: It makes a difference if you are concerned about attacks by users of the machine, people who grab the machine while it is powered on The two cases above are exactly w

Where does one find yum ps?

2013-03-30 Thread Aaron Konstam
Recently there was mention of yum ps. I can't find that command sequence anywhere. What am I missing? -- Aaron Konstam telephone: (210) 656-0355 e-mail: akons...@sbcglobal.net -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedorap

Re: Where does one find yum ps?

2013-03-30 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 30.03.2013 21:08, schrieb Aaron Konstam: > Recently there was mention of yum ps. I can't find that command sequence > anywhere. What am I missing? if you would have read the thread you refer you would type simply "yum install yum-plugin-ps" signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signatu

nx

2013-03-30 Thread Patrick Dupre
Hello, I am experiencing some issues with the display when I use nxclient. What ever I choice for the display (in confidure), I get a session which covers all my screen. It looks like that the size of the remore machine sceen size is used and not the one of the local one what ever I say: 1200x800

Re: nx

2013-03-30 Thread Patrick Dupre
On 2013-03-30 21:45, Patrick Dupre wrote: Hello, I am experiencing some issues with the display when I use nxclient. What ever I choice for the display (in confidure), I get a session which covers all my screen. It looks like that the size of the remore machine sceen size is used and not the one

Re: Can't Load Fedora 15

2013-03-30 Thread Richard Vickery
On Sat, Mar 30, 2013 at 2:27 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: > > > Am 30.03.2013 04:51, schrieb Richard Vickery: > > Those with much more experience in the group and Linux will tell you > that this version is no longer supported, and > > that you should download the current one if you need help. It soun

Re: nx

2013-03-30 Thread Joe Zeff
On 03/30/2013 01:54 PM, Patrick Dupre wrote: In addition, when I run gnome-control-center (on the remote), I get: libGL error: failed to load driver: swrast libGL error: Try again with LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose for more details. (gnome-control-center:23967): Gdk-ERROR **: The program 'gnome-control-

Re: Can't Load Fedora 15

2013-03-30 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 30.03.2013 22:07, schrieb Richard Vickery: > I'm just offering my understanding of the cycles, Reindl. Perhaps I should > have prefaced my contribution as such, > but that is not grounds for calling it ZERO. Calling my contribution ZERO > indicates that I took a class on > understanding the

kchildlock

2013-03-30 Thread Frédéric Bron
Hi, I have installed and configured kchildlock to limit the use time of the computer for some young users. However, nothing happens. Who can help me? I am using fedora. Frédéric -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedorap

Re: Printing jobs

2013-03-30 Thread Ed Greshko
On 03/31/13 02:02, Richard Vickery wrote: > > > > On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 11:06 PM, Ed Greshko > wrote: > > On 03/30/13 13:03, Richard Vickery wrote: > > can anyone help me figure out what is going on here? I'll look at it in > the morning, but still might n

Re: yum upgrade

2013-03-30 Thread Timothy Murphy
Reindl Harald wrote: >> I would extend Thompson's dictum that "a program should do one thing, >> and do it well" to documentation > > if you want only ONE way to do things switch to Apple OSX I think you misunderstand or misinterpret what Thompson said. There is a big difference between having m

Limiting .bash_history inputs

2013-03-30 Thread Roger
I am using Fedora 18. A long time ago someone asked for a way to stop repeat commands like clear, ls -aFl, and others from going into .bash_history. Can someone please tell me what the command was. Thanks Roger -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscr

Re: Limiting .bash_history inputs

2013-03-30 Thread Ed Greshko
On 03/31/13 09:12, Roger wrote: > I am using Fedora 18. > A long time ago someone asked for a way to stop repeat commands like clear, > ls -aFl, and others from going into .bash_history. > Can someone please tell me what the command was. > Thanks Roger I think you are looking for the environmen

Re: Limiting .bash_history inputs

2013-03-30 Thread Ed Greshko
On 03/31/13 09:23, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 03/31/13 09:12, Roger wrote: >> I am using Fedora 18. >> A long time ago someone asked for a way to stop repeat commands like clear, >> ls -aFl, and others from going into .bash_history. >> Can someone please tell me what the command was. >> Thanks Roger

Re: Printing jobs

2013-03-30 Thread Richard Vickery
On Sat, Mar 30, 2013 at 4:46 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 03/31/13 02:02, Richard Vickery wrote: > > > > > > > > On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 11:06 PM, Ed Greshko ed.gres...@greshko.com>> wrote: > > > > On 03/30/13 13:03, Richard Vickery wrote: > > > can anyone help me figure out what is going

Re: Can't Load Fedora 15

2013-03-30 Thread Richard Vickery
On Sat, Mar 30, 2013 at 2:10 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: > > > Am 30.03.2013 22:07, schrieb Richard Vickery: > > I'm just offering my understanding of the cycles, Reindl. Perhaps I > should have prefaced my contribution as such, > > but that is not grounds for calling it ZERO. Calling my contribution

Re: Can't Load Fedora 15

2013-03-30 Thread Joe Zeff
On 03/30/2013 08:09 PM, Richard Vickery wrote: In my world, those of political science and law, research is done in books or online reports where we know what to look for, and we have a pretty good knowledge of what the cases are that we're making; plus, we have librarians ready and willing to he

Re: Printing jobs

2013-03-30 Thread Ed Greshko
On 03/31/13 10:46, Richard Vickery wrote: > > > $ rpm -qa | grep ^hp > hplip-libs-3.13.2-1.fc18.x86_64 > hplip-gui-3.13.2-1.fc18.x86_64 > hplip-3.13.2-1.fc18.x86_64 > hplip-common-3.13.2-1.fc18.x86_64 > hpijs-3.13.2-1.fc18.x86_64 OK. > > $ lpstat -a > HP_LaserJet_P1005 accepting requests si

Re: Window edges

2013-03-30 Thread Richard England
On 03/10/2013 01:13 PM, Beartooth wrote: My PCs fall into two classes. One has windows whose every edge and corner I can grab right onto with the greatest of ease, when I want to move one or change its size. The others make these jobs almost impossible, at least for those with trifocal fi

Re: Printing jobs

2013-03-30 Thread Ed Greshko
On 03/31/13 11:20, Ed Greshko wrote: > So, the printer is defined. Earlier you noted > > $: lpr March* > lpr: Error - no default destination available. Forgot to mention, you can set the default simply by issuing this command as root lpadmin -d HP_LaserJet_P1005 and you'll not need to

Re: Can't Load Fedora 15

2013-03-30 Thread Richard Vickery
On Sat, Mar 30, 2013 at 8:13 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 03/30/2013 08:09 PM, Richard Vickery wrote: > >> In my world, those of political science and law, research is done in >> books or online reports where we know what to look for, and we have a >> pretty good knowledge of what the cases are that

Re: Can't Load Fedora 15

2013-03-30 Thread Joe Zeff
On 03/30/2013 08:47 PM, Richard Vickery wrote: How would I know to look for something that I would not be sure I had an interest in, let alone know exists? Well, you could start by going to https://fedoraproject.org/ and looking around to see what the people running have to say. I think it'

Re: Printing jobs

2013-03-30 Thread Richard Vickery
On Sat, Mar 30, 2013 at 8:20 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 03/31/13 10:46, Richard Vickery wrote: > > > > > > $ rpm -qa | grep ^hp > > hplip-libs-3.13.2-1.fc18.x86_64 > > hplip-gui-3.13.2-1.fc18.x86_64 > > hplip-3.13.2-1.fc18.x86_64 > > hplip-common-3.13.2-1.fc18.x86_64 > > hpijs-3.13.2-1.fc18.x86_6

Re: Printing jobs

2013-03-30 Thread Ed Greshko
On 03/31/13 12:38, Richard Vickery wrote: > > > > On Sat, Mar 30, 2013 at 8:20 PM, Ed Greshko > wrote: > > On 03/31/13 10:46, Richard Vickery wrote: > > > > > > $ rpm -qa | grep ^hp > > hplip-libs-3.13.2-1.fc18.x86_64 > > hplip-gui-3.13.2-1.fc

Re: Can't Load Fedora 15

2013-03-30 Thread Tim
Allegedly, on or about 30 March 2013, Joe Zeff sent: > Well, you could start by going to https://fedoraproject.org/ and > looking around to see what the people running have to say. I think > it's called "due diligence," or something like that. The trouble with trawling the web, or even single we