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On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 9:51 AM, Paul Allen Newell wrote:
> On 9/1/2011 11:43 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
>> On 09/02/2011 06:44 AM, Robert Arkiletian wrote:
>>> I run Fedora in school computer lab. I cannot upgrade to F15 because
>>> of gnome3. In order to help the community stay with Fedora, could
On Fri, Sep 02, 2011 at 04:32:07AM +, Amadeus W.M. wrote:
> Why did the UI have to change to something that looks and feels
> like a giant smart phone?
> Integrated chat and messaging? Where did that come from?
Maybe because in the not too distant future all "PCs" will
become giant (or dwarf
Thanks for your answer
unfortunately the fallback mode is not an issue
teachers here want gnome3
i guess i will do without these boxes
Eric Doutreleau
Le 30/08/2011 20:47, stan a écrit :
> On Mon, 29 Aug 2011 10:47:57 +0200
> Eric Doutreleau wrote:
>
>> I have just installed fedora15 and theref
Hi
i m using F15 with the latest updates
and from times to times my machine doesn't boot.
it seems to hang just before starting X
Fortunately i can ssh to it and i see the following thing
systemctl list-units | grep dead
getty@tty2.serviceloaded inactive dead start Getty on tty2
On Thu, 01 Sep 2011 23:20:19 -0400
Matthew Saltzman wrote:
> On Thu, 2011-09-01 at 14:34 -0700, Joe Zeff wrote:
> > On 09/01/2011 02:18 PM, Matthew Saltzman wrote:
> >
> > > gnome-shell-extension-righthotcorner-1.0-1.fc15.noarch
> > >
> >
> > Why do you have to install an extension to make suc
On Thu, 1 Sep 2011 21:04:18 -0400
"Mark W. Jeanmougin" wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 18:03, Rudolf Kastl wrote:
> > 2011/9/1 Alan Cox :
> >> If you really want everything to just get out of the way and don't need
> >> the user niceness stuff you might also want to look at Enlightement
> >>
> >
2011/9/2 Alan Cox :
> On Thu, 1 Sep 2011 21:04:18 -0400
> "Mark W. Jeanmougin" wrote:
>
>> On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 18:03, Rudolf Kastl wrote:
>> > 2011/9/1 Alan Cox :
>> >> If you really want everything to just get out of the way and don't need
>> >> the user niceness stuff you might also want to
Is there anyway to force the NetworkManager applet to refresh its list?
Everytime I plug-in my 3G dongle (k3805-z) I have to either go to
nm-connection-editor and toggle the option "Connection available for every
user" or restart gnome-shell (ALT+F2, r) so the connection for the 3G dongle
appears..
To get more space in a file system,
I've been playing with partitions.
When I was done, it wouldn't boot into graphics mode.
The filling icon never got quite full.
Using function keys to get into a virtual console,
I noticed lots of messages.
Some indicated success and some ended with [FAILED].
Th
On 1 September 2011 21:15, Linda McLeod wrote:
>
>
> I love this Fedora-14, and everything Red Hat, but Fedora-15 is a lot
> like those vile Windows OS's..
Essentially, every time I see a post like this I stop reading as soon
as it tries to argue that something is wrong because it's like
Windows.
>Messaggio originale
>Da: ibmal...@gmail.com
>Data: 2-set-2011 11.51
>A: "Community support for Fedora users"
>Ogg:
Re: Fedora 15 is a lot like Windows OS's.. irritating, offensive,
difficult
to use with ease, nauseating to try...
>
>On 1 September 2011 21:15, Linda
McLeod wrote:
On Fri, 2011-09-02 at 08:18 +0200, Christopher Svanefalk wrote:
> On 09/02/2011 04:25 AM, Peter G. wrote:
> > Robert Arkiletian wrote:
> >
> >> I run Fedora in school computer lab. I cannot upgrade to F15 because
> >> of gnome3.
> > Boo hoo.
> >
>
> He is not alone
Definitely not alone. Even XFCE
2011/9/2 Amadeus W.M. :
> But it's a sin to take something good - granted, possibly not perfect -
> and turn it into something unusable for so many people. Why did the UI
> have to change to something that looks and feels like a giant smart
> phone? Integrated chat and messaging? Where did that com
Hi,
When I do a 'yum search', I find the packages available in repository
but not their versions (unless I do a yum install).
How to find the version of the packages without trying to install them ?
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> Hi,
>
> When I do a 'yum search', I find the packages available in repository
> but not their versions (unless I do a yum install).
>
> How to find the version of the packages without trying to install them ?
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On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 5:51 PM, Luc MAIGNAN wrote:
> Hi,
>
> When I do a 'yum search', I find the packages available in repository
> but not their versions (unless I do a yum install).
>
> How to find the version of the packages without trying to install them ?
>
> BR
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On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 01:32, Amadeus W.M. wrote:
>
> I can't find much information about the gnome3 developers, but they must
> be generation Facebook - it's the "stay connected" philosophy that I see
> in gnome3. There's more to computing than that.
>
> I wish someone from the old guard found th
On 09/02/2011 12:43 PM, Łukasz Jagiełło wrote:
> 2011/9/2 Amadeus W.M. :
>> But it's a sin to take something good - granted, possibly not perfect -
>> and turn it into something unusable for so many people. Why did the UI
>> have to change to something that looks and feels like a giant smart
>> pho
On 09/01/2011 09:14 PM, Robert Arkiletian wrote:
> I run Fedora in school computer lab. I cannot upgrade to F15 because
> of gnome3. In order to help the community stay with Fedora, could
> security updates for F14 be provided until F17 is released?
> Hopefully by then gnome3 will be fully baked.
On 09/02/2011 02:51 AM, Paul Allen Newell wrote:
> Hum ... I find it a difficult proposition to ask users "to step up and
> do it" when the march of progress indicates that it wasn't the users
> that asked for this change. Change may be good, but I think alot of the
> feedback on this forum has sho
On 09/01/2011 08:44 PM, Robert Arkiletian wrote:
> I run Fedora in school computer lab. I cannot upgrade to F15 because
> of gnome3. In order to help the community stay with Fedora, could
> security updates for F14 be provided until F17 is released?
> Hopefully by then gnome3 will be fully baked.
>
On 09/02/2011 12:21 PM, Paul Allen Newell wrote:
Hum ... I find it a difficult proposition to ask users "to step up and
do it" when the march of progress indicates that it wasn't the users
that asked for this change.
That may well be the case and Fedora doesn't really have a choice in that
mat
On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 2:36 PM, Soham Chakraborty
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> yum list
$ yum list [installed|available|all] # stars
should be escaped
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On 1 September 2011 21:29, Digimer wrote:
> Also, Linux is all about choice.
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2008-January/msg00861.html
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On Thu, Sep 01, 2011 at 04:29:59PM -0400, Digimer wrote:
> When Red hat 8 (original) came out, I hated Gnome and wanted
> Enlightenment back.
>
> When Windows 95 came out, I hated it's new UI and wanted 3.1 back.
Great points. If we didn't have change and innovation we'd all still be
using 80x25
On 09/01/2011 09:56 PM, Tom Horsley wrote:
> My poor old system died, and I resurrected it by moving the
> disks to an older system. For who knows what reason, the
> kernel has decided to call the external USB drive I use for
> backups /dev/sda (the old system called it /dev/sdc).
>
> My internal s
On Fri, 2 Sep 2011 14:43:42 +0100
Richard Hughes wrote:
> On 1 September 2011 21:29, Digimer wrote:
> > Also, Linux is all about choice.
>
> https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2008-January/msg00861.html
Yeah its a very naïve viewpoint. The problem starts here
"Software is hard.
I've been reviewing bugzilla for reported bugs in Gnome 3.0 and it seems
that there's no action taking place on them. Does anyone know what's
going on upstream? Are bugs being researched? Addressed? Fixes tested?
My bugs of interest are
Pressing Alt-Tab crashes gnome shell:
https://bugzilla.r
2011/9/2, Alan Cox :
> No easy answers but there is a free market, and weaker solutions go away
> (amazingly fast some times - fvwm went from hero to zero in a few years
> for example)
I assume you meant "fvwm became stable" :-)
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On Fri, 2 Sep 2011 15:01:56 +0100
Alan Cox wrote:
> fvwm went from hero to zero in a few years
Who says? I use it all the time because it doesn't
obsessively change out from under me just because it
can. Some faction of linux geeks seem to believe that
if something isn't radically changed every f
Am Freitag, den 02.09.2011, 09:44 -0400 schrieb Darryl L. Pierce:
> Great points. If we didn't have change and innovation we'd all still be
> using 80x25 monochrome text mode terminals.
It was only a change, no innovation .
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On Tue, 30 Aug 2011 20:37:20 -0700
John Wendel wrote:
> I also would like to see your custom config files.
OK, my computer picked the middle of this thread to die,
but I have done a brain transplant and have it back
now (more or less).
I've added a link in my de-gnomeing web page to a
tarball wi
On 09/01/2011 04:24 PM, Marko Vojinovic wrote:
> A lot of people dismissed KDE after the rough time of version 4.0, in
> a similar way that Gnome3 is now losing its userbase. But today KDE4
> is a beautiful, stable and very user-friendly DE. I guess Gnome3 will
> get back on its feet in the next co
On 09/02/2011 01:21 AM, Alan Cox wrote:
> Ease of use. We've replaced option boxes with magic impenetrable
> extensions and for the rest you have to code them yourself.
No. Ease of coding for the devs and to hell with the users.
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Since my computer died, I'm looking at building a brand
new system, and I wonder about all the fancy new stuff
available in the hardware and linux support (fedora
in particular). Other than beating my head against google,
is there a good resource for researching this stuff?
I'm wondering about thi
On 09/02/2011 05:51 AM, Andrew Haley wrote:
> I hope that the GNOME developers will make good
> use of this feedback.
>
Since when has there been the slightest sign of the Gnome devs giving a
rats ass about what mere users think?
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I just wanted to let anyone who was following this thread that I
finally made my purchase (Newegg had the card for $25 + $10 rebate
from Asus).
I ended up waiting until I installed F15 so I can't tell you if it
would of worked with F15 kernels on F14...
It sounds AWESOME and I no longer have any
On Fri, 02 Sep 2011 09:41:10 -0700
Joe Zeff wrote:
> Since when has there been the slightest sign of the Gnome devs giving a
> rats ass about what mere users think?
They care enormously about what the imaginary user they have
created thinks. Real users, not so much. They can always
imagine overw
Hi all,
DS is replicated from AD, I want memberOf enabled for all users ( new
users also ) but memberOf plugin requires inetuser objectclass.
How can I add inetuser objectclass to any user on/after replication.
There is any other way do it?
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I agree with those asking to extend F14. Extending
support will allow more time to fix F16 to better address
the GUI issues with Gnome 3, hopefully.
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Robert Arkiletian wrote:
> I cannot upgrade to F15 because
> of gnome3. In order to help the community
stay with Fedora
Why can't the "community" use KDE? No need to
answer, just a thought.
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On 09/02/2011 06:17 PM, Wade Hampton wrote:
> I agree with those asking to extend F14. Extending
> support will allow more time to fix F16 to better address
> the GUI issues with Gnome 3, hopefully.
That doesn't make sense; extending support for F14 creates more work for
developers with already b
On 09/02/2011 10:55 AM, Vasil Mikhalenya wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> DS is replicated from AD, I want memberOf enabled for all users ( new
> users also ) but memberOf plugin requires inetuser objectclass.
>
> How can I add inetuser objectclass to any user on/after replication.
> There is any other way do
On 09/02/2011 10:17 AM, Wade Hampton wrote:
> I agree with those asking to extend F14. Extending
> support will allow more time to fix F16 to better address
> the GUI issues with Gnome 3, hopefully.
Why are you assuming that Gnome 3 will still be a FPOS by the time F16
comes out?
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On 09/02/2011 05:41 PM, Joe Zeff wrote:
> On 09/02/2011 05:51 AM, Andrew Haley wrote:
>> I hope that the GNOME developers will make good
>> use of this feedback.
>
> Since when has there been the slightest sign of the Gnome devs giving a
> rats ass about what mere users think?
I take your point.
On 09/02/2011 11:03 AM, Andrew Haley wrote:
> I take your point. However, I think they're human; if you prick them,
> do they not bleed? Surely they must be a little bit hurt by all these
> complaints from their users.
Yes, they're human, just as Bill Gates and all of his minions are.
However,
On Fri, 02 Sep 2011 11:24:24 -0700
Joe Zeff wrote:
> Yes, they're human, just as Bill Gates and all of his minions are.
> However, when it comes to the Gnome devs, I've never seen the slightest
> indication that they even pay attention to what the users want or need,
> let alone their complaint
> Yes, they're human, just as Bill Gates and all of his minions are.
> However, when it comes to the Gnome devs, I've never seen the slightest
> indication that they even pay attention to what the users want or need,
> let alone their complaints. This is one of the many reasons I don't use
> G
Our MIS department just decided to not allow the use of the public
IP addresses of system from local machines, so I made the
additions to the hosts file with the private ip and the name.
restart named and restarted squid, and squid picked up the
change, and would bring up pages using the name. U
On 2 September 2011 16:40, Tom Horsley wrote:
> Since my computer died, I'm looking at building a brand
> new system, and I wonder about all the fancy new stuff
> available in the hardware and linux support (fedora
> in particular). Other than beating my head against google,
> is there a good reso
Am Freitag, den 02.09.2011, 12:40 -0400 schrieb Tom Horsley:
> I'm wondering about things like USB 3.0, sata 3.0,
> UEFI BIOS, Sandy Bridge, i7 processors, Intel HD 3000
> graphics, etc.
I am writing you this at the keyboard of a Asus Crosshair Formula V
Mainboard. It has all the fancy stuff like
I want posixAccount and attributes will be added on replication. Do I
have to write my own plugin?
What is utilization/application of such AD replication ?
thnx
On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 8:45 PM, Rich Megginson wrote:
> On 09/02/2011 10:55 AM, Vasil Mikhalenya wrote:
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> DS is repli
On 09/02/2011 01:36 PM, Vasil Mikhalenya wrote:
> I want posixAccount and attributes will be added on replication. Do I
> have to write my own plugin?
Yes. Or use freeipa - it has a winsync plugin that does posix and kerberos.
> What is utilization/application of such AD replication ?
I don't unde
Hi,
I was playing with Fedora 16 Alpha and I've got a problem with Kernel
3.x and a camera in my laptop preventing me from installation [1].
The workaround seems to blacklist a uvcvideo kernel module, but because
it's an installation process and can't just add module to
/etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
On 09/02/2011 01:42 PM, Bryn M. Reeves wrote:
> On 09/02/2011 06:17 PM, Wade Hampton wrote:
>> I agree with those asking to extend F14. Extending
>> support will allow more time to fix F16 to better address
>> the GUI issues with Gnome 3, hopefully.
>
> That doesn't make sense; extending support
I've just found and followed the magical instructions
here: http://analogbit.com/fix_nvidia_edid to eradicate
the nvidia driver HDMI audio support by convincing it
the TV I'm using doesn't support HDMI audio.
It works great, but I'm wondering why having the HDMI
audio device exist prevented the on
On Fri, 02 Sep 2011 21:43:53 +0200
Marcin Zajączkowski wrote:
> I've read about rd.blacklist boot parameter [2] which should work
> starting with Fedora 12 (as I understand it) [3], but in my case it doesn't.
I've always seen that spelled rdblacklist (no dot).
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On Fri, 2 Sep 2011 10:38:01 -0400
Tom Horsley wrote:
> See:
>
> http://home.comcast.net/~tomhorsley/wisdom/braindump/degnome.html
>
> The link in there points to:
>
> http://home.comcast.net/~tomhorsley/wisdom/braindump/sample-fvwm.tar.bz2
Thank you Tom.
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On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 4:07 PM, stan wrote:
> On Fri, 2 Sep 2011 10:38:01 -0400
> Tom Horsley wrote:
>
>> See:
>>
>> http://home.comcast.net/~tomhorsley/wisdom/braindump/degnome.html
>>
>> The link in there points to:
>>
>> http://home.comcast.net/~tomhorsley/wisdom/braindump/sample-fvwm.tar.bz2
On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 2:28 PM, Robert Marcano wrote:
> On 09/01/2011 08:44 PM, Robert Arkiletian wrote:
> > I run Fedora in school computer lab. I cannot upgrade to F15 because
> > of gnome3. In order to help the community stay with Fedora, could
> > security updates for F14 be provided until F17
On 2011-09-02 22:06, Tom Horsley wrote:
> On Fri, 02 Sep 2011 21:43:53 +0200
> Marcin Zajączkowski wrote:
>
>> I've read about rd.blacklist boot parameter [2] which should work
>> starting with Fedora 12 (as I understand it) [3], but in my case it doesn't.
>
> I've always seen that spelled rdblac
On Fri, 2011-09-02 at 08:59 -0500, Robert Nichols wrote:
> On 09/01/2011 09:56 PM, Tom Horsley wrote:
> > My poor old system died, and I resurrected it by moving the
> > disks to an older system. For who knows what reason, the
> > kernel has decided to call the external USB drive I use for
> > back
On Fri, 2 Sep 2011 16:21:29 -0400
Robert Myers wrote:
> Then they see how real nerds handle the problems and they think,
> "U, maybe Windows isn't so bad, after all."
I think of it as playing a complicated puzzle solving
computer game :-).
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On Fri, 02 Sep 2011 15:31:38 -0500
Aaron Konstam wrote:
> Wouldn't changing the entries in grub.conf also do the trick
I don't know, but it has stopped doing it now for some
reason. Maybe because the external USB drive usually spins itself
down before I reboot and it is taking it longer to respon
What is the official procedure to PERMANTLY DISABLING -without removing it-
the autorun of this POS piece of software that automatically starts accesing
my pen drive trying to index pictures?
I want to stop this, forever.
TIA
FC
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On 02/09/11 21:28, Marcin Zajączkowski wrote:
> On 2011-09-02 22:06, Tom Horsley wrote:
>> On Fri, 02 Sep 2011 21:43:53 +0200
>> Marcin Zajączkowski wrote:
>>
>>> I've read about rd.blacklist boot parameter [2] which should work
>>> starting with Fedora 12 (as I understand it) [3], but in my case i
Robert Arkiletian wrote:
> In order to help the community stay with Fedora, could
> security updates for F14 be provided until F17 is released?
Fedora is not a democracy. It is a meritocracy.
The only changes that get made to Fedora are by people that work to make
the changes. Votes are not cast
On 2011-09-02 23:12, John Pilkington wrote:
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> On 02/09/11 21:28, Marcin Zajączkowski wrote:
>> On 2011-09-02 22:06, Tom Horsley wrote:
>>> On Fri, 02 Sep 2011 21:43:53 +0200
>>> Marcin Zajączkowski wrote:
>>>
I've read about rd.
On 03Sep2011 04:56, Michael D. Setzer II wrote:
| Our MIS department just decided to not allow the use of the public
| IP addresses of system from local machines, so I made the
| additions to the hosts file with the private ip and the name.
| restart named and restarted squid, and squid picked u
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Le 02/09/2011 23:04, Fernando Cassia a écrit :
> What is the official procedure to PERMANTLY DISABLING -without removing
> it- the autorun of this POS piece of software that automatically starts
> accesing my pen drive trying to index pictures?
>
> I
On 9/2/2011 6:06 AM, Mike Wohlgemuth wrote:
> On 09/02/2011 02:51 AM, Paul Allen Newell wrote:
>> Hum ... I find it a difficult proposition to ask users "to step up and
>> do it" when the march of progress indicates that it wasn't the users
>> that asked for this change. Change may be good, but I t
On 9/2/2011 6:29 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> On 09/02/2011 12:21 PM, Paul Allen Newell wrote:
>>
>> Hum ... I find it a difficult proposition to ask users "to step up and
>> do it" when the march of progress indicates that it wasn't the users
>> that asked for this change.
>
> That may well be the
On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 19:04, François Patte <
francois.pa...@mi.parisdescartes.fr> wrote:
>
> Previous tool was handy, that's why they have removed it...
>
> Be careful with gconf editor, in case of mistake you could waste a lot
> of time to recover...
Thanks Francois!
Very much appreciated.
On 9/2/2011 2:13 PM, Michael Cronenworth wrote:
> Robert Arkiletian wrote:
>> In order to help the community stay with Fedora, could
>> security updates for F14 be provided until F17 is released?
> Fedora is not a democracy. It is a meritocracy.
>
> The only changes that get made to Fedora are by p
On Fri, 2011-09-02 at 13:43 +0200, Łukasz Jagiełło wrote:
> Don't forget about people like me who really likes new gnome3. You
> want change distribution only cause you doesn't like new gnome3. Did
> you write all your problems at F-15 alpha stage or earlier stage when
> everything was possible to
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On Saturday 03 September 2011 12:26 AM, Michael D. Setzer II wrote:
> Our MIS department just decided to not allow the use of the public
> IP addresses of system from local machines, so I made the
> additions to the hosts file with the private ip and the name.
> restart named and restarted squid, a
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