Re: OT: allow ordinary user to read /var/log/audit/audit.log

On 12 June 2011 17:30, Andre Speelmans wrote: >> Surely I can. I just thought there should be the other way. Say, thru >> sudo. Well, it seems that changing file attributes is the only way >> here. > > Add this to the Cmnd_alias: > less  /var/log/audit/audit.log > When I'm trying to save /etc/sudo

Re: Adieu, Fedora

On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 5:38 AM, Marcus D. Leech wrote: > Yup, "man" pages aren't very friendly for newbs.  But they aren't really > intended for that audience. >  They're intended as handy reference documents, rather than tutorials. > Some of them are better >  written than others.  Unfortunatel

Re: Adieu, Fedora

On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 6:11 AM, Antonio Olivares wrote: > Why?  There are many people out there that play games, and for gaming no OS > out there, no Crossover, wine, ..., Virtual machines out there beat windows.   > Most of the games are for windows and till linux > creates games that are on

Re: OT: allow ordinary user to read /var/log/audit/audit.log

On 06/13/2011 03:02 PM, Hiisi wrote: > On 12 June 2011 17:30, Andre Speelmans wrote: >>> Surely I can. I just thought there should be the other way. Say, thru >>> sudo. Well, it seems that changing file attributes is the only way >>> here. >> Add this to the Cmnd_alias: >> less /var/log/audit/aud

Re: Is yum dependency resolution upside down?

On Mon, 13 Jun 2011 12:55:02 +0800, KP wrote: > I don't know if it is yum, the package group definitions or the package > dependencies that are wrong - but no matter who is to blame - the result is > definitely not intuitive (or imho correct)... You read the dependencies backwards. > Below are a

Re: Adieu, Fedora

> The point is, you have to match the distro to the user, not the other > way around. If the OP isn't happy with Fedora, I hope he finds a distro > he likes better. The primary end user Linux UI is Android. In that sense the argument is over for the moment. Alan -- users mailing list users@li

Re: Is yum dependency resolution upside down?

On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 4:31 PM, Michael Schwendt wrote: > > You read the dependencies backwards. [...] > If you remove ppp, you cannot keep any packages that depend on ppp. Remember that what I wanted was to remove "Dial-up Networking Support" - it is not expected that this operation should remo

Printer still not working with LibreOffice, etc.

Fedora 15 is still flushing my printer. -- Lawrence E Graves -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines

Re: Printer still not working with LibreOffice, etc.

2011/6/13 Lawrence E Graves : > Fedora 15 is still flushing my printer. > -- > Lawrence E Graves > > a lot of informations from your post ;-) I doubt that anybody can help youat least make and model of printer, I suggest -- Antonio Montagnani Skype : amontag52 SIP: antoniomon...@ekiga.net

Re: OT: allow ordinary user to read /var/log/audit/audit.log

On 13 June 2011 11:52, Ed Greshko wrote: <--SNIP--> >> >> Cmnd_Alias HOSPES = /sbin/service, /sbin/chkconfig, >> /usr/sbin/setsebool, /sbin/restorecon, /usr/sbin/semanage, >> /usr/sbin/setenforce, less  /var/log/audit/audit.log >> it falls with error: >> /etc/sudoers: syntax error near line 34 <<<

software time lock and web access control

Hi Is there any easy to use and setup program to control web access for a user? also to set time of day allowed usage of certain programs? This for a home computer using Fedora 14. I know maybe a combintion of IPTABLES and probably SQUID should do the trick, but 1. I want something easy to use an

Re: outdated Tor version in Fedora (missing security fixes)

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 06/10/2011 11:38 PM, Fennix wrote: > On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 8:30 AM, Christoph A. > wrote: > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA512 > > On 06/10/2011 06:28 PM, Fennix wrote: > > As to the SEL

Re: Adieu, Fedora

On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 08:42:57AM +0100, mike cloaked wrote: > A lot of information on how to do things in linux actually comes from > lists exactly like this one! Well, yes. As does a lot of help for Windows, and Mac... But the newbies won't see them. And they won't do the "Tour" in XP, or Vi

Re: Adieu, Fedora

On Mon, 13 Jun 2011 07:36:20 -0500 Dave Ihnat wrote: > And users crave that comfortable > familiarity; when trying something new, abnormal behavior will strike > hardest, and frustration with what should be simple tasks will cost much > more. This problem extends even to phones :-). It was severa

Re: Is yum dependency resolution upside down?

On Mon, 13 Jun 2011 17:48:12 +0800, KP wrote: > On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 4:31 PM, Michael Schwendt wrote: > > > > You read the dependencies backwards. > [...] > > If you remove ppp, you cannot keep any packages that depend on ppp. > > Remember that what I wanted was to remove "Dial-up Networking S

Re: Is yum dependency resolution upside down?

On 06/13/2011 07:03 PM, Michael Schwendt wrote > Both commands are not the exact opposite of "groupinstall" and "install" due > to dependencies on additional packages. A groupinstall can add required > packages > not listed in the group. Same for a normal install. "yum install foo" may pull > in p

Tweetdeck like Twitter client for your Fedora 14 desktop

http://fusionlinux.org/2011/06/13/tweetdeck-like-twitter-client-for-your-fedora-14-desktop/ Twitter is badly broken on Fedora 14 because all currently available twitter clients (like pino, qwit and mitter) don’t work with oauth bazed twitter authorization. Don’t fret, Turpial comes to the rescue.

Re: Tweetdeck like Twitter client for your Fedora 14 desktop

On 06/13/2011 08:47 AM, valent.turko...@gmail.com wrote: > http://fusionlinux.org/2011/06/13/tweetdeck-like-twitter-client-for-your-fedora-14-desktop/ > > Twitter is badly broken on Fedora 14 because all currently available > twitter clients (like pino, qwit and mitter) don�t work with oauth > ba

Re: git patch comments

Todd Zullinger wrote: > For git commits, you should use the format: > > $subject > > $body That's how the git patches are created. If it is supposed to work then it is a bug because it is not working that way. I'll get this posted to the git list/bugzilla when I can. Thanks. -- users mailing li

Re: Adieu, Fedora

On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 9:06 PM, Phil Savoie wrote: > On 12/06/2011 11:12 PM, David wrote: >> I see. Now I understand you completely. Since Linux is user supported. I >> am sure that the developers would welcome any tutorials that you would >> write and provide. That is the way the Linux works. >>

sudoku-savant

Hi sudoku-savant is far too small 9x9 on 1600x1200 screen it needs ability to resize the gui please Gnome3 F15 -- Andrew Gray linnet Solutions ltd -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/l

Re: Is yum dependency resolution upside down?

On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 9:33 PM, Michael Schwendt wrote: >> Remember that what I wanted was to remove "Dial-up Networking Support" - it >> is >> not expected that this operation should remove all Networking! > > Then what is it supposed to do instead? > > "yum groupinfo 'Dial-up Networking Suppor

Re: sudoku-savant

Around 03:13pm on Monday, June 13, 2011 (UK time), Andrew Gray scrawled: > Hi > > sudoku-savant is far too small 9x9 on 1600x1200 screen it needs ability > to resize the gui please Use bugzilla to request feature changes - the developers are unlikely to see your email on this list. Steve --

Genesi Efika MX netbook - opinions? (Maybe OT)

HI Guys, I have seen this little machine, and I would like to know from the owners who are using it daily? What is the general opinion about it? Is it capable to run at least Fedora F12-F13? Or webOS? Thanks, Zoltan -- PGP:  06853DF7 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsub

Re: Genesi Efika MX netbook - opinions? (Maybe OT)

On Mon, 13 Jun 2011 09:36:56 +0200 Zoltan Hoppar wrote: > HI Guys, > > I have seen this little machine, and I would like to know from the > owners who are using it daily? What is the general opinion about it? > Is it capable to run at least Fedora F12-F13? Or webOS? I thought all the Genesi dev

Re: gnome/XFCE desktop wallpaper problem - it won't stay!

On Sun, 12 Jun 2011 23:23:35 -0700, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 06/12/2011 08:53 AM, BeartoothHOS wrote: >> Did you start wallpapoz and not turn it off? It'll do that. > > I beg to differ. I use wallpapoz on both my desktop and my laptop and > haven't had the slightest difficulty because of it.

Re: git patch comments

Michael Cronenworth wrote: > That's how the git patches are created. If it is supposed to work then > it is a bug because it is not working that way. I'll get this posted to > the git list/bugzilla when I can. Thanks. There isn't any git bugzilla, so just mailing the git list is the way to go. Ho

Re: git patch comments

Todd Zullinger wrote: > However, I'm still curious to see a git formatted patch that > is affected here. I use git am regularly and have never seen this. I would post one, but they are proprietary. I double checked the patches and indeed they are formatted as: line 1 line 2 line 3 Testing the

Re: Genesi Efika MX netbook - opinions? (Maybe OT)

On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 4:36 AM, Zoltan Hoppar wrote: > HI Guys, > > I have seen this little machine, and I would like to know from the > owners who are using it daily? What is the general opinion about it? > Is it capable to run at least Fedora F12-F13? Or webOS? > > Thanks, > Zoltan > > -- > PGP

Re: git patch comments

On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 10:32:59 -0500, Michael Cronenworth wrote: > > I double checked the patches and indeed they are formatted as: > > line 1 > line 2 > line 3 > > Testing the following formatting of: > > line 1 > > line 2 > line 3 > > results in the expected formatting. Slightly annoyi

Re: Is yum dependency resolution upside down?

On Mon, 13 Jun 2011 22:40:09 +0800, KP wrote: > I agree that if I explicitly ask to remove ppp then yum is supposed to > remove dependencies. > > What I don't understand is how naive the group commands are working. Well, if you want to go down that road, discussing this could reach a sudden end.

Burning Video DVD Howto

Fedora 15/Kde4 . I have tried to burn burn a one hour videos using K3B File > New Project > New Video Dvd Project , It creates a VIDEO_TS and AUDIO_TS , but if I select a AVI or mp4 video to the Project, I get the following Error; Could not determine size of resulting image file. Is there a

Re: Is yum dependency resolution upside down?

On 06/13/2011 06:33 AM, Michael Schwendt wrote: > On Mon, 13 Jun 2011 17:48:12 +0800, KP wrote: > >> Remember that what I wanted was to remove "Dial-up Networking Support" - it >> is >> not expected that this operation should remove all Networking! > > Then what is it supposed to do instead? > If

Re: gnome/XFCE desktop wallpaper problem - it won't stay!

On 06/13/2011 08:10 AM, BeartoothHOS wrote: > Do you have it set to show different backgrounds of different > workspaces? I was going to originally, but ended up with having all of them change backgrounds together but randomly. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubsc

Re: software time lock and web access control

On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 07:21:46 -0500, Javier Perez wrote: > > I know maybe a combintion of IPTABLES and probably SQUID should do the > trick, but You can probably just use iptables and a cron job. iptables has a way to check packets associated with particular users. So you should be able to

Re: Adieu, Fedora

On Sun, 2011-06-12 at 20:04 -0700, James McKenzie wrote: > el... > > I would love to see the folks in Redmond squirm. Windows has so many > problems that it should be banned from anywhere where reliability is > key. Go to your local hospital and see what they are running. It > scares me that

Re: git patch comments

Bruno Wolff III wrote: > On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 10:32:59 -0500, > Michael Cronenworth wrote: >> >> I double checked the patches and indeed they are formatted as: >> >> line 1 >> line 2 >> line 3 >> >> Testing the following formatting of: >> >> line 1 >> >> line 2 >> line 3 >> >> results in the

Installing Tweetdeck - unsolvable?

For the next person who might run into this I've installed Adobe Air (yes, but let's not go there) from the adobe linux repo and now I'm trying to get it to install Tweetdeck. The installation falls apart: Here's a snippet from the install log: Adobe AIR Application Installer:19463][INFO]

Re: Is yum dependency resolution upside down?

On Mon, 13 Jun 2011 09:09:46 -0700, JZ wrote: > On 06/13/2011 06:33 AM, Michael Schwendt wrote: > > On Mon, 13 Jun 2011 17:48:12 +0800, KP wrote: > > > >> Remember that what I wanted was to remove "Dial-up Networking Support" - > >> it is > >> not expected that this operation should remove all Ne

Fedora 15 Doesn't started

I hv got a problem. I have purchased a dell studio laptop with these config. i7 processor 2.2 GHZ boost up to 3.3 8 GB ram 2 GB nvidia 540m graphics card Intel hd graphics card 750 GB hardisk. so the main problem is when i boot fedora 15 it doesn't show any screen. i have installed it on my portab

Re: Fedora 15 Doesn't started

Is possibly the boot manager not correctly installed? Do you get any boot screen with kernel-name? Otherwise, try to boot from your recovery/installation CD, go into recover and set up your boot manager. suomi On 2011-06-13 19:26, Navdeep Singh Sidhu wrote: > I hv got a problem. I have purchase

Re: software time lock and web access control

On Mon, 2011-06-13 at 07:21 -0500, Javier Perez wrote: > Hi > Is there any easy to use and setup program to control web access for a > user? also to set time of day allowed usage of certain programs? > This for a home computer using Fedora 14. > > I know maybe a combintion of IPTABLES and probably

Re: gnome/XFCE desktop wallpaper problem - it won't stay!

On Mon, 13 Jun 2011 09:14:09 -0700, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 06/13/2011 08:10 AM, BeartoothHOS wrote: >> Do you have it set to show different backgrounds of different >> workspaces? > > I was going to originally, but ended up with having all of them change > backgrounds together but randomly.

Re: Adieu, Fedora

On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 7:37 PM, David wrote: >> I disagree. He makes a very valid point. New installs of Windows always >> come up with a tutorial and "helper" app. I have never seen anything like >> that on Linux > Really? Seriously? > > What "New installs of Windows" of Windows are you referrin

Re: Fedora 15 Doesn't started

Navdeep Singh Sidhu wrote: > so the main problem is when i boot fedora 15 it doesn't show any screen. It's not clear (to me, at least) precisely what you mean. Does the grub screen come up, and you choose Fedora-15, and then it goes wrong? Or does nothing at all come up on the screen? In any cas

Re: Is yum dependency resolution upside down?

On 06/13/2011 10:12 AM, Michael Schwendt wrote: > How would you "install Networking"? Well, I generally make sure that it's selected when I install Fedora. Checking, I find that there's a directory on this box, /etc/ppp so it must have been brought in with everything else. However, I don't see

Re: gnome/XFCE desktop wallpaper problem - it won't stay!

On 06/13/2011 11:16 AM, BeartoothHOS wrote: > When it first started doing that, I had forgotten I'd played with > wallpapoz, and was thoroughly bewildered for a couple days. Email the maintainer. I had trouble with it when I first switched from Gnome to XFCE, and he had a fix for it within a day

Re: Adieu, Fedora

On Sun June 12 2011, Stephen Bunn wrote: > > Seriously? You aren't really trying to argue the point that windows has > better documentation than GNU/Linux. > > That and the *goal* shouldn't be who has the most users. The *goal* > should be a desktop that does what the user base needs it to do. T

Re: Adieu, Fedora

On 13/06/2011 3:01 PM, John Aldrich wrote: > > No, I think that Windows is just more "user-friendly" and does more "hand- > holding than Linux. I think we need to get out of the mindset of "we don't > want 'everybody' using linux because then it wouldn't be cool." It often > seems that's the attitu

Re: Is yum dependency resolution upside down?

On Mon, 13 Jun 2011 11:47:49 -0700, JZ wrote: > > How would you "install Networking"? > > Well, I generally make sure that it's selected when I install Fedora. Really? Do you add/choose a particular package group for it? Or do you visit potential groups in search for "ppp" and place a checkmark

Re: Adieu, Fedora

On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 2:14 AM, Alan Cox wrote: >> The point is, you have to match the distro to the user, not the other >> way around.  If the OP isn't happy with Fedora, I hope he finds a distro >> he likes better. > > The primary end user Linux UI is Android. In that sense the argument is > ov

Re: Adieu, Fedora

--- On Sun, 6/12/11, Andras Simon wrote: > On 6/13/11, Patrick Bartek > wrote: > > [...] > > > Considered XFCE and LXDE instead, but > > decided the best option was to abandon the Desktop GUI > environment > > all-together in favor of a well-featured window > manager, simple launch bar > > for

Re: Adieu, Fedora

--- On Sun, 6/12/11, Digimer wrote: > On 06/12/2011 06:08 PM, Patrick > Bartek wrote: > > It's been a nice ride these past 7 years with Fedora > > as my primary OS, but it's time to move on.  My current > > [snip] > > Every distro exists to fit a niche. That Fedora is not the > one for your >

Re: Adieu, Fedora

On Mon June 13 2011, Marcus D. Leech wrote: > > Well sure. But let's not go down the path of lobotomizing it to the > point where it has achieved >"glorified typewriter" status. Which is, I'm afraid, where most > people's mindset is about computers >in general, and Windows in particular.

Re: Is yum dependency resolution upside down?

On 06/13/2011 12:20 PM, Michael Schwendt wrote: > Really? Do you add/choose a particular package group for it? Or do you > visit potential groups in search for "ppp" and place a checkmark next to > "ppp" there? > > Or do you rely on the default install to include PPP support? > As I've shown, there

Re: Adieu, Fedora

On 06/13/2011 12:25 PM, Patrick Bartek wrote: > After all, most of the hardware is at least 6 years old. So, by today's > standards, for a desktop, it's OLD, and I need it to maintain usability for > another 2 to 3 years. The mobo and CPU on my main desktop box go back to '03, and I'm not in a

Current preupgrade?

Some weeks ago, when preupgrade led or could lead to F15 Beta, I tried it and got royally snarled up. I never did get Gnome3 to boot properly on that machine, and finally installed Scientific Linux, which I also wanted to try. (I like it.) I'm thinking I might want to try F15 a

RE: Adieu, Fedora

 > - Visite o estande da Itautec no CIAB, maior evento de Tecnologiapara o setor financeiro, e conheça soluções inovadoras 15 a 17 de junho - Transamérica Expo Center - São Paulo - SP Inscreva-se no site www.ciab.com.br www.itautec.com.br twitter.com/itautec facebo

nss_ldap + sssd for hostname resolution

Hello Folks, I can't seem to get a combination that was working with Fedora 13 to work with Fedora 15. In Fedora 13 I would use these settings in /etc/nsswitch.conf: hosts: files dns ldap And in /etc/ldap.conf: nss_base_hosts ou=Hosts,dc=foobar,dc=org?one If I try to do this on

Re: Adieu, Fedora

--- On Sun, 6/12/11, Fernando Cassia wrote: > Patrick Bartek > wrote: > > It's been a nice ride these past 7 years with Fedora > as my primary OS, but it's time to move on. > > This reminds me of OS/2 users on oS/2 maling list who > often  decided > that not only they had to change OS, they had

OT: RE: Adieu, Fedora

> Yes, and a cute little dog when you do a file search would be nice too! > Speaking of cute little dogs...maybe someone should redo M$ Bob for Linux...we could call it "Linux Boob" :-) -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://a

Re: nss_ldap + sssd for hostname resolution

On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 03:45:50PM -0400, Luc Lalonde wrote: > Hello Folks, > > I can't seem to get a combination that was working with Fedora 13 to work > with Fedora 15. > > In Fedora 13 I would use these settings in /etc/nsswitch.conf: > > hosts: files dns ldap I really would recommend

Re: Adieu, Fedora

--- On Sun, 6/12/11, JD wrote: > On 06/12/2011 03:08 PM, Patrick > Bartek wrote: > > It's been a nice ride these past 7 years with Fedora > > as my primary OS, but it's time to move on.  My current > > > > [snip] > > As was stated in a recent response on this list, Fedora is > always in > test m

Re: nss_ldap + sssd for hostname resolution

On Mon, 2011-06-13 at 15:45 -0400, Luc Lalonde wrote: > Hello Folks, > > I can't seem to get a combination that was working with Fedora 13 to > work with Fedora 15. > > In Fedora 13 I would use these settings in /etc/nsswitch.conf: > > hosts: files dns ldap > > And in /etc/ldap.conf: > >

Still some mysteie about FC15

Well I was on vacation so I only installed FC15 today. And some strange tings occurred. 1, The wiki pages on systemd say that chkconfig --less does not work. That is not true. I know its a wiki and I can make changes. Well maybe sometime. 2. The method for making the cursor's focus become active wh

Re: nss_ldap + sssd for hostname resolution

On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 04:00:45PM -0400, Nalin Dahyabhai wrote: > If you're using nss-pam-ldapd, you'd want to put something like this in > your /etc/nslcd.conf and make sure the nslcd service is started: > base hosts ou=Hosts,dc=foobar,dc=org?one Strike that. It would actually be more like:

Re: Current preupgrade?

On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 12:38 PM, BeartoothHOS wrote: > yum install xfce # yum groupinstall xfce -- Suvayu Open source is the future. It sets us free. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/lis

Re: Is yum dependency resolution upside down?

On Mon, 13 Jun 2011 12:33:38 -0700, JZ wrote: > I have never, knowingly, installed it on this laptop. I did, however, > make sure that Networking Support was installed when I first installed > Fedora 13. Although I have used dial-up support under Linux, by the > time I got this box I no longe

Still some mysteries about FC15

TO FIX A MANGLED SUBJECT LINE Well I was on vacation so I only installed FC15 today. And some strange tings occurred. 1, The wiki pages on systemd say that chkconfig --less does not work. That is not true. I know its a wiki and I can make changes. Well maybe sometime. 2. The method for making the

Re: Current preupgrade?

I have never had any success with preupgrade so have sworn off it. Instead, I have used yum following the instructions at: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/YumUpgradeFaq#Fedora_14_-.3E_Fedora_15 It was effortless this last time around. It appears, however, that you would like to use XFCE instead of

Re: Still some mysteie about FC15

On Mon, 13 Jun 2011 15:14:56 -0500, AK wrote: > Well I was on vacation so I only installed FC15 today. > And some strange tings occurred. > 1, The wiki pages on systemd say that chkconfig --less > does not work. That is not true. I know its a wiki and I can make > changes. Well maybe sometime. --

Re: Is yum dependency resolution upside down?

On 06/13/2011 01:19 PM, Michael Schwendt wrote: > There you're pretty much off-topic. ;-) Not quite. My thinking is that if it comes in with the rest of Networking, there's a reason, even if I don't know what it is. For all I know it might simply be that that's how it was set up back when most

Re: NetworkManager cannot connect automatically to hidden network. nm-applet shows *really* big icons

On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 10:56 AM, Joshua C. wrote: > After upgrading to f15 the nm-applet cannot automatically connect to > hidden wlan networks. It sees them and I can connect to them manually. > The "connect automatically" checkbox is clicked. > > Another problem is that the nm-applet looks real

Re: Default browser problem -

>>> Something's seriously broken and changing the default apps just doesn't >>> work consistently. This applies throughout the Gnome3 shell. You need >>> to edit ~/.thunderbird/yourprofile/ and edit mimeTypes.rdf: >>> >>> Find and edit the stanzas referencing firefox. The should be for http, >>> h

Re: Still some mysteie about FC15

On Mon, 2011-06-13 at 22:29 +0200, Michael Schwendt wrote: > > Well I was on vacation so I only installed FC15 today. > > And some strange tings occurred. > > 1, The wiki pages on systemd say that chkconfig --less > > does not work. That is not true. I know its a wiki and I can make > > changes. We

Re: Is yum dependency resolution upside down?

On Mon, 13 Jun 2011 13:44:45 -0700, JZ wrote: > On 06/13/2011 01:19 PM, Michael Schwendt wrote: > > There you're pretty much off-topic. ;-) > > Not quite. My thinking is that if it comes in with the rest of > Networking, there's a reason, even if I don't know what it is. For all > I know it m

Re: Adieu, Fedora

On Mon June 13 2011, Dave Ihnat wrote: > > We need to get more beginner docco out there--and get it to people. > Maybe downloading a Linux distro results in an E-Mail to the user with > a link to "How Linux is Different from Windows"--which is a video, and > a text document, and maybe a downloada

Re: Is yum dependency resolution upside down?

On Mon, 2011-06-13 at 23:02 +0200, Michael Schwendt wrote: > On Mon, 13 Jun 2011 13:44:45 -0700, JZ wrote: > > > On 06/13/2011 01:19 PM, Michael Schwendt wrote: > > > There you're pretty much off-topic. ;-) > > > > Not quite. My thinking is that if it comes in with the rest of > > Networking,

Re: Current preupgrade?

On Mon, 13 Jun 2011 13:19:11 -0700, suvayu ali wrote: > yum groupinstall xfce Done, with thanks. Stay tuned. -- Beartooth Staffwright, Neo-Redneck Not Quite Clueless Power User I have precious (very precious!) little idea where up is. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject

Re: Is yum dependency resolution upside down?

On 06/13/2011 02:02 PM, Michael Schwendt wrote: > Now you only repeat [albeit with many words] what has been explained > before. Do I need to repeat that package "ppp" is a dependency of > NetworkManager and that by removing "ppp" you need to remove > NetworkManager, too? No, I'm not repeating wha

ltsp fedora 14

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Bonsoir, I need to install thin clients with fedora 14, It seems that ltsp disappeared from fedora Where can I find rpm of ltsp compatible with f14? Thank you. F.P. - -- François Patte UFR de mathématiques et informatique Université Paris Desc

Re: Printer still not working with LibreOffice, etc.

On Mon, 2011-06-13 at 12:29 +0200, Antonio M wrote: > 2011/6/13 Lawrence E Graves : > > Fedora 15 is still flushing my printer. > > -- > > Lawrence E Graves > > > > > > a lot of informations from your post ;-) > I doubt that anybody can help youat least make and model of > printer, I suggest

Re: Is yum dependency resolution upside down?

On 06/13/2011 02:18 PM, Matthew Saltzman wrote: > That's a "feature" of dependency analysis: NetworkManager expects to be > able to control ppp connections. In order to do that, it needs ppp. So > if you remove ppp, NetworkManager thinks it is itself broken. But if > you never intend to use Netwo

Re: Printer still not working with LibreOffice, etc.

On 06/13/2011 04:31 PM, Christopher A. Williams wrote: > On Mon, 2011-06-13 at 12:29 +0200, Antonio M wrote: >> 2011/6/13 Lawrence E Graves: >>> Fedora 15 is still flushing my printer. >>> -- >>> Lawrence E Graves >>> >>> >> >> a lot of informations from your post ;-) >> I doubt that anybody can he

Re: NetworkManager cannot connect automatically to hidden network. nm-applet shows *really* big icons

2011/6/13 Andrew Parker : > On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 10:56 AM, Joshua C. wrote: >> After upgrading to f15 the nm-applet cannot automatically connect to >> hidden wlan networks. It sees them and I can connect to them manually. >> The "connect automatically" checkbox is clicked. >> >> Another problem

Re: Still some mysteries about FC15

Aaron, --- On Mon, 6/13/11, Aaron Konstam wrote: > From: Aaron Konstam > Subject: Still some mysteries about FC15 > To: "users" > Date: Monday, June 13, 2011, 1:22 PM > > TO FIX A MANGLED SUBJECT LINE > 3. Someone needs to give the  Gnome3 people a lesson > on instructional > videos. They g

Re: Adieu, Fedora

On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 5:36 AM, Dave Ihnat wrote: > We need to get more beginner docco out there--and get it to people.  Maybe > downloading a Linux distro results in an E-Mail to the user with a link to > "How Linux is Different from Windows"--which is a video, and a text > document, and maybe a

Re: F12 --> F14 upgrade unsuccessful

On 06/11/2011 02:43 PM, Andrew Jamison wrote: > I have heard if you plan to upgrade in this manner it is best to upgrade from > f12 to f13 then from 13 - 14 due to the rapid change in technologies from f12 > to f14 but again this just what I have heard not sure if this is actually the > case Ac

Should Gnome 3 implement WPAD, or not?

I have WPAD configured on my LAN. Configuring Firefox to "Auto-detect proxy settings" correctly picks up my WPAD-designated proxy in Firefox. I can confirm that Firefox is loading my proxy settings, and is using them properly. However, as far as I can tell, libproxy does absolutely nothing.

Re: Adieu, Fedora

On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 4:02 PM, Patrick Bartek wrote: > > Not all that old. I'm running kernel 2.6.32-5-amd64 on the Debian 6 VM, which > I haven't checked lately to see if there's an update. My current kernel for > F12 > is 2.6.32.26-175 64-bit. Not that much difference. Remember, my hardware >

Re: Still some mysteries about FC15

On 06/14/2011 01:52 AM, Aaron Konstam wrote:FC15 today. > 1, The wiki pages on systemd say that chkconfig --less > does not work. That is not true. I know its a wiki and I can make > changes. Well maybe sometime. Please be more specific. > 4. Why are things like gnotes not installed by default?

Re: Still some mysteie about FC15

On 06/14/2011 02:31 AM, Aaron Konstam wrote: > On Mon, 2011-06-13 at 22:29 +0200, Michael Schwendt wrote: >>> Well I was on vacation so I only installed FC15 today. >>> And some strange tings occurred. >>> 1, The wiki pages on systemd say that chkconfig --less >>> does not work. That is not true. I

Re: Adieu, Fedora

On 06/13/2011 12:21 PM, Kam Leo wrote: > On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 2:14 AM, Alan Cox wrote: >>> The point is, you have to match the distro to the user, not the other >>> way around. If the OP isn't happy with Fedora, I hope he finds a distro >>> he likes better. >> >> The primary end user Linux UI

After logging out in gnome3 or xfce, I still see some of the user's processes

If a user runs a gnome3 or xfce session and then logs out, not all processes are killed. I see at least pulseaudio running. The most processes I saw after having logged out, were: 9371 ?00:00:00 menu-cached 12441 ?00:00:00 pulseaudio 12448 ?00:00:00 gconf-helper 12592 ?

weird behaviour of gnome-terminal in xfce or LXDE sessions

After choosing xfce or LXDE as my favorite desktop and logging in and then starting gnome-terminal, I see a weird effect: gnome-terminal is popped up in a normal size, but then the width shrinks automatically and slowly to about the half width. How to get rid of this behaviour? This happens even wi

Re: After logging out in gnome3 or xfce, I still see some of the user's processes

On 06/14/2011 01:32 PM, Joachim Backes wrote: > If a user runs a gnome3 or xfce session and then logs out, not all > processes are killed. I see at least pulseaudio running. > > The most processes I saw after having logged out, were: > > 9371 ?00:00:00 menu-cached > 12441 ?00:00:00

Re: weird behaviour of gnome-terminal in xfce or LXDE sessions

On 06/14/2011 01:38 PM, Joachim Backes wrote: > After choosing xfce or LXDE as my favorite desktop and logging in and > then starting gnome-terminal, I see a weird effect: gnome-terminal is > popped up in a normal size, but then the width shrinks automatically and > slowly to about the half width.

Re: After logging out in gnome3 or xfce, I still see some of the user's processes

On 06/14/2011 07:41 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 06/14/2011 01:32 PM, Joachim Backes wrote: >> If a user runs a gnome3 or xfce session and then logs out, not all >> processes are killed. I see at least pulseaudio running. >> >> The most processes I saw after having logged out, were: >> >> 9371 ?

Re: weird behaviour of gnome-terminal in xfce or LXDE sessions

On 06/14/2011 07:48 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 06/14/2011 01:38 PM, Joachim Backes wrote: >> After choosing xfce or LXDE as my favorite desktop and logging in and >> then starting gnome-terminal, I see a weird effect: gnome-terminal is >> popped up in a normal size, but then the width shrinks autom

Re: weird behaviour of gnome-terminal in xfce or LXDE sessions

On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 10:38 PM, Joachim Backes wrote: > After choosing xfce or LXDE as my favorite desktop and logging in and > then starting gnome-terminal, I see a weird effect: gnome-terminal is > popped up in a normal size, but then the width shrinks automatically and > slowly to about the h

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