Re: Oracle Gives OpenOffice back

2011-04-18 Thread Alan Cox
On Sun, 17 Apr 2011 20:10:06 -0400 Bill Davidsen wrote: > Sounds as though the need for LibreOffice is about over, we don't need two > project if Oracle is serious about having letting OO go. The people at LO are > mostly former OO developers, so hopefully the projects could be unified. Yes th

Re: Reasons for choosing Fedora over Debian

2011-04-18 Thread Andrew Haley
On 17/04/11 02:37, JD wrote: > > Keep in mind that all the developers have regular jobs besides > hacking linux, Not all of them. :-) > so they are not there to jump at our beck and call. That's true, though. Andrew. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or chan

Re: Oracle Gives OpenOffice back

2011-04-18 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Sun, Apr 17, 2011 at 9:10 PM, Bill Davidsen wrote: > Sounds as though the need for LibreOffice is about over, There was never a "need" for LibreOffice. Only competing companies wishing to wrest control of the project away from Oracle, like Novell wanted to do for a long time to take control aw

2 questions

2011-04-18 Thread mattias
How to disable gnome-keyring becuase the screen reader orca dosen't liek the password dialog E.g when i connect to a lan And Exist gtkpod for fedora or must i compile? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.o

Directory permission

2011-04-18 Thread Triadi Krisnawan
Dear Experts, Please help me with my red hat linux problem. I am sure this might be the easy for you guys. I am managed to set up transfer protocol from my red hat linux to the unix machine via gFTP 2.0.17 When I tried to transfer the file accross, its always come with Error: Cannot open loc

Re: rsync from mirror - problem

2011-04-18 Thread Gabriel Ramirez
On 04/17/2011 08:33 AM, Genes MailLists wrote: > > For the last couple of days or so - my mirror script (I tried a couple > of mirror sites) seems to keep deleting everything and re-downloading > each time it runs ... > > Mirror script keeps a local copy from which I update all my machines > he

Re: Upgrade Fedora 6 to 14 (remotely)

2011-04-18 Thread Dave Cross
On 15 April 2011 21:38, Dante Conti wrote: > Hi Joe, > > Thank you for the quick answer. I know that Fedora 6 is very old (and > no longer supported), but -- amazingly -- this is what the hosting > provider just installed on the server. What kind of hosting company installs an operating system th

Re: Reasons for choosing Fedora over Debian

2011-04-18 Thread Joel Rees
On Sun, Apr 17, 2011 at 10:14 AM, Nikolaus Rath wrote: > Hello, > > I have been using Ubuntu for a couple of years, and I am increasingly > unhappy with it. I must say I don't blame you. I'd rather use Apple than Ubuntu, myself. > I dislike the Ubuntu One integration, I think upstart > is irrit

Re: [OT Humor] "Obviously designed by morons"

2011-04-18 Thread Tim
On Sun, 2011-04-17 at 16:11 -0700, James McKenzie wrote: > So, if I change the front door to my house, does that mean the toilet > stops working and I have to change my stove from Natural Gas to > Electric? No. Yes, if they're designed by Microsoft... (Could not resist) -- [tim@localhost ~]$

Re: 2 questions

2011-04-18 Thread Steve Searle
Around 11:24am on Monday, April 18, 2011 (UK time), mattias scrawled: > Exist gtkpod for fedora or must i compile? It exists. $ yum search gtkpod ... gtkpod.x86_64 : Graphical song management program for Apple's iPod ... Steve -- Website: www.stevesearle.com Twitter: @ReddishShift Faceboo

RE: [OT Humor] "Obviously designed by morons"

2011-04-18 Thread J.Witvliet
-Original Message- From: users-boun...@lists.fedoraproject.org [mailto:users-boun...@lists.fedoraproject.org] On Behalf Of Tim Sent: Monday, April 18, 2011 2:26 PM To: Community support for Fedora users Subject: Re: [OT Humor] "Obviously designed by morons" On Sun, 2011-04-17 at 16:11

Re: Reasons for choosing Fedora over Debian

2011-04-18 Thread Tom Horsley
> But dual and triple boot with two drives is > workable. Actually a gazillion boot system with only one drive is workable: I had about 17 different linuxes on a box at work, all sharing a single small /boot partition by doing a dd command to copy out one /boot and copy in another when I wanted t

Re: Upgrade Fedora 6 to 14 (remotely)

2011-04-18 Thread Dante Conti
Thanks, Dave. I have initiated the cancellation process, and the vendor has informed me that I will receive the refund in 7-10 days. If that happens, I don't think that I should name the company, and I hate naming names, to begin with. Best. --Dante On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 8:07 AM, Dave Cross

Re: Reasons for choosing Fedora over Debian

2011-04-18 Thread Nikolaus Rath
Roger writes: > Hi Nikolaus > > I'm thinking that you could make yourself a list of what apps you would > like to have and another of what apps you really need to do your thing > for both and compare. I have not found the problem you mention, of apps > for one that are not on another. I am not ta

Re: Upgrade Fedora 6 to 14 (remotely)

2011-04-18 Thread Tom Horsley
On Mon, 18 Apr 2011 13:07:33 +0100 Dave Cross wrote: > What kind of hosting company installs an operating system that has > been unsupported for three years? One that has been in business for about 3 years and has just been copying the original fedora 6 image they setup when they started using th

Re: Upgrade Fedora 6 to 14 (remotely)

2011-04-18 Thread Andy Blanchard
On 18 April 2011 13:48, Tom Horsley wrote: > On Mon, 18 Apr 2011 13:07:33 +0100 > Dave Cross wrote: > > > What kind of hosting company installs an operating system that has > > been unsupported for three years? > > One that has been in business for about 3 years and has just > been copying the or

Re: rsync from mirror - problem

2011-04-18 Thread Genes MailLists
On 04/18/2011 08:04 AM, Gabriel Ramirez wrote: > and what filesystem have your server??? ext3 > > maybe this parameter from man rsync helps you: > > --modify-window >When comparing two timestamps, rsync treats the > timestamps as being equal if they differ by no more than

Postfix, procmail, and permissions

2011-04-18 Thread Alex
Hi, I'm setting up a new fc14 system to use procmail and postfix, but delivery fails with the following: Apr 18 09:20:12 mail02t postfix/qmgr[8004]: 3FEA26003D: from=, size=868, nrcpt=1 (queue active) Apr 18 09:20:12 mail02t postfix/local[8022]: 3FEA26003D: to=, orig_to=, relay=local, delay=0.26,

f14 inaccessible when configuring LDAP authentication (nsswitch.conf not working as expected?)

2011-04-18 Thread Frantisek Hanzlik
I want authentication against local openldap server. After several unsuccessful attempts configure sssd I uninstall sssd-* stuff and configure things with pam_ldap/nss_ldap (fortunately when not installed sssd, then system-config-authentication seems configure /etc/pam.d/* files correctly). But my

[389-users] Announcing 389 Directory Server version 1.2.8.2 Testing

2011-04-18 Thread Rich Megginson
The 389 Project team is pleased to announce the release of 389-ds-base-1.2.8.2. This release has fixes for bugs found in 1.2.8 testing and bugs from earlier releases. Installation yum install --enablerepo=updates-testing 389-ds # or for EPEL yum install --enablerepo=epel-testing 389-ds

Re: Mouse-wheel nudge left-right now generates key-presses, not buttons 6+7

2011-04-18 Thread Daniel B. Thurman
On 03/31/2011 04:58 AM, Neil Bird wrote: >Since upgrading to Fedora 14 from 12, I'm seeing my wheel-mouse > generating the *key* presses and instead of the expected > button clicks and . > >This means that while it still works in, say, Firefox (where and > scroll the current view),

Open URL links from thunderbird - To open Firefox4

2011-04-18 Thread james tate
F14/KDE Using Fedora 14 with Firefox4. If I click on a URL link in a Thunderbird email, to open it with Firefox4, it won't open in Firefox4 . Is the settings setup in Thunderbird > Preferences > Attachments ? If so How do I get the Firefox4 in Attachments ? -- users mailing list users@lis

Re: Upgrade Fedora 6 to 14 (remotely)

2011-04-18 Thread Dante Conti
It was Fedora v6. RHEL was not offered as an OS option. On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 9:18 AM, Andy Blanchard wrote: > On 18 April 2011 13:48, Tom Horsley wrote: >> >> On Mon, 18 Apr 2011 13:07:33 +0100 >> Dave Cross wrote: >> >> > What kind of hosting company installs an operating system that has >>

Re: Upgrade Fedora 6 to 14 (remotely)

2011-04-18 Thread Andy Blanchard
On 18 April 2011 16:42, Dante Conti wrote: > It was Fedora v6. RHEL was not offered as an OS option. > In that case they *really* ought to be named and shamed. Fedora Core 6 was released at the tail end of 2006! That kind of OS age might be OK in Microsoft shops where you get major releases ev

Re: Open URL links from thunderbird - To open Firefox4

2011-04-18 Thread Joachim Backes
On 04/18/2011 04:57 PM, james tate wrote: F14/KDE Using Fedora 14 with Firefox4. If I click on a URL link in a Thunderbird email, to open it with Firefox4, it won't open in Firefox4 . Is the settings setup in Thunderbird> Preferences> Attachments ? If so How do I get the Firefox4 in Att

Re: Upgrade Fedora 6 to 14 (remotely)

2011-04-18 Thread JD
On 04/18/2011 08:56 AM, Andy Blanchard wrote: > On 18 April 2011 16:42, Dante Conti > wrote: > > It was Fedora v6. RHEL was not offered as an OS option. > > > In that case they *really* ought to be named and shamed. Fedora Core > 6 was released at the tail end o

Re: Upgrade Fedora 6 to 14 (remotely)

2011-04-18 Thread JD
On 04/18/2011 09:22 AM, JD wrote: > On 04/18/2011 08:56 AM, Andy Blanchard wrote: >> On 18 April 2011 16:42, Dante Conti > > wrote: >> >> It was Fedora v6. RHEL was not offered as an OS option. >> >> >> In that case they *really* ought to be named and shamed. Fedo

Re: Open URL links from thunderbird - To open Firefox4

2011-04-18 Thread JD
On 04/18/2011 09:21 AM, Joachim Backes wrote: On 04/18/2011 04:57 PM, james tate wrote: F14/KDE Using Fedora 14 with Firefox4.    If I click on a URL link in a Thunderbird email, to open it with

Re: Open URL links from thunderbird - To open Firefox4

2011-04-18 Thread james tate
On 04/18/2011 12:21 PM, Joachim Backes wrote: > On 04/18/2011 04:57 PM, james tate wrote: >> F14/KDE >> >> Using Fedora 14 with Firefox4. >> >>If I click on a URL link in a Thunderbird email, to open it with >> Firefox4, it won't open in Firefox4 . >> >> Is the settings setup in Thunderbird> P

Re: Open URL links from thunderbird - To open Firefox4

2011-04-18 Thread james tate
On 04/18/2011 12:26 PM, JD wrote: System->Preferences->Preferred Applications Sorry JD , but are you using Gnome or KDE ? I'm using KDE. There is no setting like that in KDE4 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedora

Re: Open URL links from thunderbird - To open Firefox4

2011-04-18 Thread JD
On 04/18/2011 09:34 AM, james tate wrote: > On 04/18/2011 12:26 PM, JD wrote: >> System->Preferences->Preferred Applications > Sorry JD , but are you using Gnome or KDE ? > I'm using KDE. There is no setting like that in KDE4 Gnome! Another user had posted the settings for KDE, but that was a few

Re: Upgrade Fedora 6 to 14 (remotely)

2011-04-18 Thread Steven Stern
On 04/15/2011 02:48 PM, Dante Conti wrote: > Is it possible to remotely upgrade a server running Fedora 6 to Fedora > 14 (or 15)? If yes, should I use PreUpgrade? > > Thank you for any help you can provide. > > --Dante Jumping back in at the top... Since you're provisioning a server, you'd real

Re: Cannot do KDE Graphic login

2011-04-18 Thread Lamar Owen
On Thursday, April 14, 2011 09:21:03 PM Chris Smart wrote: > It will show [the acron thingy], if they pass a vga option though.. Which option is that? Would be cool to get the real splash screen on boot instead of the text bars. > In fact, one should install akmod, instead of kmod, so that

Re: Upgrade Fedora 6 to 14 (remotely)

2011-04-18 Thread Joe Zeff
On 04/18/2011 06:18 AM, Andy Blanchard wrote: > > This may be a dumb question, but since it hasn't actually come up yet... >Are we *certain* the hosting company in question installed Fedora v6 > and not the current release (also v6) of Red Hat Enterprise Linux? The OP has since stated that the

Re: rsync from mirror - problem

2011-04-18 Thread Joe Zeff
On 04/18/2011 06:19 AM, Genes MailLists wrote: >I did actually double check that ntp was working correctly and that > the time matched the correct time onhttp://www.time.gov/widget.html. Thanx for the url; I didn't know about that. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubs

Re: Upgrade Fedora 6 to 14 (remotely)

2011-04-18 Thread Joe Zeff
On 04/18/2011 09:22 AM, JD wrote: > But the OP seems not to have taken this road :) And wisely, IMO. Not because it's not a good idea but because doing that would require him to trust the hosting company, and I think they've already proven themselves to be untrustworthy. Moving to a new compan

Re: Guidelines for a noob

2011-04-18 Thread Daniel J Walsh
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/15/2011 09:45 PM, Aradenatorix Veckhom Vacelaevus wrote: > Hi: > > Thanks for the link but I don't see how to fix my trouble or what to do, > there is a lot of info. u_u > > Take a look At this bugzilla. > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com

Re: How gain access to DocumentRoot contents of Apache-httpd through a Web browser which is set to point to the Home folder of the User?

2011-04-18 Thread Daniel J Walsh
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/16/2011 08:12 AM, Tim wrote: > On Thu, 2011-04-14 at 11:12 +0100, Bryn M. Reeves wrote: >> Heh, thought I might be out of date here.. I think that the correct >> context for home directory web content is now httpd_user_content_t >> (although I th

Re: [Errno 5] Input/output error

2011-04-18 Thread Leon Legorreta
I'm trying to update packages are only 33MB 2011/4/17 charles zeitler > -- > > Do what thou wilt > shall be the whole of the Law. > > > On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 6:45 PM, Leon Legorreta > wrote: > > Hello, I hope you can help me, I have a problem to update my fedora 14, > > since wanting to upd

Re: rsync from mirror - problem

2011-04-18 Thread Bill Davidsen
Genes MailLists wrote: > On 04/17/2011 09:33 AM, Genes MailLists wrote: >> >> For the last couple of days or so - my mirror script (I tried a couple >> of mirror sites) seems to keep deleting everything and re-downloading >> each time it runs ... >> >> Mirror script keeps a local copy from whic

Re: rsync from mirror - problem

2011-04-18 Thread Genes MailLists
On 04/18/2011 03:50 PM, Bill Davidsen wrote: > Genes MailLists wrote: >> On 04/17/2011 09:33 AM, Genes MailLists wrote: >>> .. >>> >>>rsync -avz --delete --delete-excluded --hard-links >>> > > No, what options are you using to rsync. I do a similar thing, but > selectively > to save bandw

Re: Upgrade Fedora 6 to 14 (remotely)

2011-04-18 Thread JD
On 04/18/2011 11:46 AM, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 04/18/2011 09:22 AM, JD wrote: >> But the OP seems not to have taken this road :) > And wisely, IMO. Not because it's not a good idea but because doing > that would require him to trust the hosting company, and I think they've > already proven themselve

Re: rsync from mirror - problem

2011-04-18 Thread Dale Dellutri
On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 3:00 PM, Genes MailLists wrote: > On 04/18/2011 03:50 PM, Bill Davidsen wrote: >> Genes MailLists wrote: >>> On 04/17/2011 09:33 AM, Genes MailLists wrote: > ..    rsync -avz --delete --delete-excluded --hard-links >> >> No, what options are you using to rsync. I

Re: Who took my beep?

2011-04-18 Thread Göran Uddeborg
Patrick O'Callaghan: > Try asking on the Fedora Test list, which is where F15 is discussed. Right, that would be more appropriate. Sorry for the spam. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listin

gweather and radar maps

2011-04-18 Thread François Patte
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Bonsoir, I use this radar map for weather in France in gweather applet: http://pda.meteox.fr/images.aspx?jaar=-3&voor=&soort=loop3uur256&c=fr&n= Does anyone know something like this for weather in India? Thanks. - -- François Patte UFR de mathém

Re: Upgrade Fedora 6 to 14 (remotely)

2011-04-18 Thread Sam Sharpe
On 18 April 2011 21:58, JD wrote: > On 04/18/2011 11:46 AM, Joe Zeff wrote: >> On 04/18/2011 09:22 AM, JD wrote: >>> But the OP seems not to have taken this road :) >> And wisely, IMO.  Not because it's not a good idea but because doing >> that would require him to trust the hosting company, and I

Re: rsync from mirror - problem

2011-04-18 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 16:00:10 -0400, Genes MailLists wrote: > > Mirror is site is mirrors.kernel.org at tha moment - this script has > been running for a few years now without change ... not that I wouldn't > change it to fix this of course ... mirrors.kernel.org is actually multiple mirr

Re: Upgrade Fedora 6 to 14 (remotely)

2011-04-18 Thread JD
On 04/18/2011 02:21 PM, Sam Sharpe wrote: > On 18 April 2011 21:58, JD wrote: >> On 04/18/2011 11:46 AM, Joe Zeff wrote: >>> On 04/18/2011 09:22 AM, JD wrote: But the OP seems not to have taken this road :) >>> And wisely, IMO. Not because it's not a good idea but because doing >>> that woul

Re: Separate /usr partition

2011-04-18 Thread Gabriel Ramirez
On 04/15/2011 02:59 PM, Robert Nichols wrote: > > Not even 1% of the programs in /usr/bin are relevant to the boot process. > You need those, such libraries from /usr/lib (or /usr/lib64) that they need, > some bits from /usr/share (/usr/share/hwdata in particular), probably a few > more bits and pi

Re: rsync from mirror - problem

2011-04-18 Thread Gabriel Ramirez
On 04/18/2011 08:19 AM, Genes MailLists wrote: > On 04/18/2011 08:04 AM, Gabriel Ramirez wrote: > >> and what filesystem have your server??? > > ext3 > >Possibly - except if it was a time stamp issue - why would it delete > the file - that should trigger a check and the file contents would

Re: Upgrade Fedora 6 to 14 (remotely)

2011-04-18 Thread Sam Sharpe
On 18 April 2011 22:46, JD wrote: > On 04/18/2011 02:21 PM, Sam Sharpe wrote: >> On 18 April 2011 21:58, JD  wrote: >>> On 04/18/2011 11:46 AM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 04/18/2011 09:22 AM, JD wrote: > But the OP seems not to have taken this road :) And wisely, IMO.  Not because it's not a

Re: Upgrade Fedora 6 to 14 (remotely)

2011-04-18 Thread Joe Zeff
On 04/18/2011 02:46 PM, JD wrote: > "good ones" as in "$$" per year? :) You may not always get what you pay for, but you almost never get what you don't pay for. Going with the cheapest possible hosting service means that you get little if any support included and (as we see here) you may

Re: Upgrade Fedora 6 to 14 (remotely)

2011-04-18 Thread JD
On 04/18/2011 02:57 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 04/18/2011 02:46 PM, JD wrote: >> "good ones" as in "$$" per year? :) > You may not always get what you pay for, but you almost never get what > you don't pay for. Going with the cheapest possible hosting service > means that you get little if any s

Re: Upgrade Fedora 6 to 14 (remotely)

2011-04-18 Thread Joe Zeff
On 04/18/2011 03:07 PM, JD wrote: > Guys, I do not mean to say that the hosting copanies > that "are good" are NOT worth the cost. I only meant > you have to shell out what they ask. > I may be a tad less optimistic: expensive hosting companies may or may not be worth the cost, but cheap ones are

Re: Upgrade Fedora 6 to 14 (remotely)

2011-04-18 Thread Sam Sharpe
On 18 April 2011 23:07, JD wrote: > On 04/18/2011 02:57 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: >> On 04/18/2011 02:46 PM, JD wrote: >>> "good ones" as in "$$" per year? :) >> You may not always get what you pay for, but you almost never get what >> you don't pay for.  Going with the cheapest possible hosting ser

assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed?

2011-04-18 Thread Christoph A.
Hi, it seams that something got broken on my f13 system. Several applications crash when trying to start: $ system-config-services /usr/bin/system-config-services:149: Warning: g_object_unref: assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed **{attrname: column}) /usr/bin/system-config-services:498: Wa

Re: iptables questions

2011-04-18 Thread Gabriel Ramirez
On 04/17/2011 03:53 PM, JD wrote: > Well, it is a bit strange that Google would set up their servers > so that my machine tries to download latest messages by sending > it's request to pop.gmail.com (74.125.127.109) to port 995, > and receive reply from a different IP address. > How can I configur

Re: iptables questions

2011-04-18 Thread JD
On 04/18/2011 05:05 PM, Gabriel Ramirez wrote: > On 04/17/2011 03:53 PM, JD wrote: > >> Well, it is a bit strange that Google would set up their servers >> so that my machine tries to download latest messages by sending >> it's request to pop.gmail.com (74.125.127.109) to port 995, >> and receive r

Re: iptables questions

2011-04-18 Thread Gabriel Ramirez
On 04/18/2011 07:13 PM, JD wrote: > Could very well be a harmless bug. > I was also wondering if the bug is caused by the client request > being broadcast to all 3 gmail servers, and one of them quickly > responds, and one or both of the other 2, which are apparently > not notified that the respon

Re: reading AOL Mail in Fedora

2011-04-18 Thread edik landave
If you are running KDE, you also can use KMail without installing anything else. Just follow the procedures outline on their POP3 or IMAP email & you will be ready in a few minutes -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedo

Re: [Errno 5] Input/output error

2011-04-18 Thread charles zeitler
-- Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law. On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 2:28 PM, Leon Legorreta wrote: > I'm trying to update packages are only 33MB > how's your swap holding out? if that's not the problem, try a fsck on vg_leon-LogVol00, vg_leon-LogVol03 and vg_leon-LogVol04 also, you