Re: faster /dev/random

2010-08-22 Thread Tim
On Sat, 2010-08-21 at 23:43 -0500, Thomas Cameron wrote: > I've always heard that you can get faster random numbers by generating > a lot of interrupts. I usually do something like > run /etc/cron.daily/mlocate to generate a lot of disk activity. I've always wondered whether that would provide it

Re: Error reading pen drive

2010-08-22 Thread Parshwa Murdia
On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 12:28 PM, Tim wrote: > Partitioning:  Preparing the drive for the partitions it will have, even > if there will only be one part. > Formatting:  Putting some file system in place on the partition. > It's two steps, even if you have one application that can do both for >

Re: GDM and XDMCP

2010-08-22 Thread Tim
On Sat, 2010-08-21 at 15:13 -0400, Steve Blackwell wrote: > I've added > AllowAdd=true > Broadcast=true > to the [chooser] section of /etc/gdm/custom.conf but that didn't > change anything To the clients or the servers? You want the servers to broadcast themselves to the LAN. I haven't done thi

Re: Auto save for .txt files

2010-08-22 Thread Suvayu Ali
On Saturday 21 August 2010 11:52 PM, Parshwa Murdia wrote: > On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 12:20 AM, Steve Blackwell wrote: > >> In gedit: >> Preferences->Editor tab check the autosave box and set your time. > > > I got it in: > > Applications -> System Tools -> Configuration Editor -> / -> Apps ->

Re: touchpad issue-SOLVED

2010-08-22 Thread Tim
On Sat, 2010-08-21 at 18:02 -0700, James McKenzie wrote: > For people like me, I like the opposite as I have 'heavy hands' and > thus just touching the touchpad will cause it to click. It is a real > pain to deactivate it (just as it is for you to activate it.) I guess > so many folks complained

Re: Auto save for .txt files

2010-08-22 Thread Tim
On Sat, 2010-08-21 at 23:38 +0530, Parshwa Murdia wrote: > Is there any way to have auto save option for .txt files in Fedora. > Means, if we write something, in some seconds (fixed, e.g., 10 secs) > that after which it automatically saves the name.txt files while > creating any new file in Fedora.

Re: faster /dev/random

2010-08-22 Thread Wolfgang S. Rupprecht
Thomas Cameron writes: > I've always heard that you can get faster random numbers by generating a > lot of interrupts. I usually do something like run > /etc/cron.daily/mlocate to generate a lot of disk activity. I noticed that things speed up quite a bit if I move the mouse in circles for 10

Re: Auto save for .txt files

2010-08-22 Thread Parshwa Murdia
On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 12:47 PM, Suvayu Ali wrote: > What editor are you using? gedit or something else? When I type the following: ]$ gedit FILENAME.txt I am able to write something in the popped up file. -- Regards, Parshwa Murdia -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To u

Re: faster /dev/random

2010-08-22 Thread Wolfgang S. Rupprecht
Tim writes: > On Sat, 2010-08-21 at 23:43 -0500, Thomas Cameron wrote: >> I've always heard that you can get faster random numbers by generating >> a lot of interrupts. I usually do something like >> run /etc/cron.daily/mlocate to generate a lot of disk activity. > > I've always wondered whether

Re: Auto save for .txt files

2010-08-22 Thread Parshwa Murdia
On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 12:54 PM, Tim wrote: > Despite auto-save features being in many programs, I tend to avoid it. > After many years of computing, I'm used to hitting a "save" hotkey every > few minutes, to keep what I've done safe. I also do the same, I just click Ctrl+S. But my query gene

Re: faster /dev/random

2010-08-22 Thread Frank Cox
On Sun, 2010-08-22 at 00:47 -0700, Wolfgang S. Rupprecht wrote: > > I noticed that things speed up quite a bit if I move the mouse in > circles for 10 minutes. But you're also doing something predicatable and repetetive -- moving your mouse in circles for 10 minutes. > > I'm a bit wary of uran

Re: Migrating data off a failing drive

2010-08-22 Thread JB
Suvayu Ali gmail.com> writes: > > Hi, > > Recently one of my hard drives developed bad sectors. I have asked for > RMA and the manufacturer has shipped the new drive. I am expecting > delivery this Monday. > > Now my question is, what would be the best way to migrate the data to > the new driv

Re: touchpad issue-SOLVED

2010-08-22 Thread Paul Cartwright
On Sun August 22 2010, Tim wrote: > But, perhaps, a bit difficult if you're on a laptop without separate > touchpad buttons, and no mouse... exactly.. > > Though, I agree with you, I dislike it.  My touchpad is very sensitive, > and hands near it will cause the mouse pointer to whiz about, and stu

Re: Upgrade with little RAM

2010-08-22 Thread Paul Cartwright
On Sun August 22 2010, Ralf Corsepius wrote: > Well, Fedora 13 works quite well on my old Pentium III w/ 512MB RAM. > > However, I am using GNOME instead of KDE, which might make a difference. > > Ralf you might want to try xfce.. even lighter, but still full-featured menus.. -- Paul Cartwright

Re: Auto save for .txt files

2010-08-22 Thread suvayu ali
On 22 August 2010 00:52, Parshwa Murdia wrote: > On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 12:47 PM, Suvayu Ali > wrote: > >> What editor are you using? gedit or something else? > > > When I type the following: > > ]$ gedit FILENAME.txt > > I am able to write something in the popped up file. I think you are misun

Re: Migrating data off a failing drive

2010-08-22 Thread JB
Suvayu Ali gmail.com> writes: > > Hi, > > Recently one of my hard drives developed bad sectors. I have asked for > RMA and the manufacturer has shipped the new drive. I am expecting > delivery this Monday. > > Now my question is, what would be the best way to migrate the data to > the new driv

Re: Migrating data off a failing drive

2010-08-22 Thread JB
JB gmail.com> writes: > ... Please disregard it - I assumed it was lost. I reposted it. JB -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mai

Re: firefox youtube cookie fix

2010-08-22 Thread JB
Frank Cox sasktel.net> writes: > ... Please disregard - response test. JB -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guideli

Re: Error reading pen drive

2010-08-22 Thread Mikkel
On 08/22/2010 01:58 AM, Tim wrote: > On Sun, 2010-08-22 at 10:48 +0530, Parshwa Murdia wrote: >> Yes, it was failed but the pen drive (in which some videos were there, >> unfortunately which had o back-up!) was formated successfully. And I >> returned it to my friend. Next day, he says, he was not

Re: Installing DD-WRT -

2010-08-22 Thread Bob Goodwin
On 22/08/10 02:42, Tim wrote: > Tim: >>> All your wireless devices transmit on the same channel. > g: >> yes and no. depends on manual assignment. > Well, generally speaking, your access point only works on one channel, > and all the clients use the same one. If you have two access points on > t

Re: Installing DD-WRT -

2010-08-22 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 09:36:55 -0400, Bob Goodwin wrote: > Here's an interesting paper on "wifi" interference: > > http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/wireless/technology/channel/deployment/guide/Channel.html#wp134132 > Notice that the channel spacing is 5 mHz but the bandwidth is mor

Re: Auto save for .txt files

2010-08-22 Thread Steve Blackwell
On Sun, 22 Aug 2010 16:23:42 +0930 Tim wrote: > On Sat, 2010-08-21 at 14:50 -0400, Steve Blackwell wrote: > > vim apparentlt doesn't do it: > > http://vimdoc.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/vimfaq2html3.pl#5.9 > > Though, if I've had a crash, or some other interruption (e.g. loss of > network connection

Re: Slow network with F13 [SOLVED]

2010-08-22 Thread Roberto Ragusa
john wendel wrote: > Looks like I'll spend a little time poking at F13 scp and see if I can > improve the transfer speed. Maybe you are using compression? Compression is a disadvantage when the network is fast (gigabit); you just spend CPU time. Then there is encryption. That can't be turned of

Re: Auto save for .txt files

2010-08-22 Thread Parshwa Murdia
On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 2:34 PM, suvayu ali wrote: > I think you are misunderstanding how auto save works with editors on > linux. The file you are editing is usually saved as a different file. > So if you are editing "myfile.txt"  then the older version of the file > is kept as "myfile.txt~" and

Re: Auto save for .txt files

2010-08-22 Thread Parshwa Murdia
On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 7:59 PM, Steve Blackwell wrote: > Ahh, yes, vim -r, where r stands for recovery. > I had forgotten about that. Oh. -- Regards, Parshwa Murdia -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject

Re: Error reading pen drive

2010-08-22 Thread Parshwa Murdia
On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 6:55 PM, Mikkel wrote: > It is possible to format, and mount, a drive without a partition > table. But you have to mount it manually, because the auto-mount > software does not know how to handle it. Windows will also have a > problem with it. > For that matter, did you k

Re: faster /dev/random

2010-08-22 Thread Roberto Ragusa
Wolfgang S. Rupprecht wrote: > Is there an approved way to increase the speed at which the random pool > for /dev/random fills up? I'm playig with dnssec and getnerating 2k rsa > keys is taking up to 3 hours. I've been googling a bit and Intel x86_64 > machines seem to have random number hardware

Re: faster /dev/random

2010-08-22 Thread Thomas Cameron
On 08/22/2010 02:47 AM, Wolfgang S. Rupprecht wrote: > > Thomas Cameron writes: >> I've always heard that you can get faster random numbers by generating a >> lot of interrupts. I usually do something like run >> /etc/cron.daily/mlocate to generate a lot of disk activity. > > I noticed that thing

grub menu is automatically skipped

2010-08-22 Thread Hoang Le
Dear friends, I have a problem with grub on fedora 13. After hibernation, I found that I couldn't boot into Windows 7 just because the grub menu showed up and disappear immediately and then my laptop booted into fedora right away. Fedora is my default entry. Now I must use a trick by adding "h

Re: grub menu is automatically skipped

2010-08-22 Thread Pawan Sood
On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 9:54 PM, Hoang Le wrote: > > Dear friends, > > I have a problem with grub on fedora 13. > After hibernation, I found that I couldn't boot into Windows 7 just because > the grub menu showed up and disappear immediately and then my laptop booted  > into fedora right away. F

Re: grub menu is automatically skipped

2010-08-22 Thread Pawan Sood
On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 9:54 PM, Hoang Le wrote: > > Dear friends, > > I have a problem with grub on fedora 13. > After hibernation, I found that I couldn't boot into Windows 7 just because > the grub menu showed up and disappear immediately and then my laptop booted  > into fedora right away. F

[SOLVED] grub menu is automatically skipped

2010-08-22 Thread Hoang Le
Thank you a lot for you fast reply. Adding the "default" option make it work. I keep the "timeout" option, because I want it and I remember that it was from the original installation. Hoang Le From: Pawan Sood To: Community support for Fedora users Sent: S

F13 and sound in Thunderbird

2010-08-22 Thread mike cloaked
I have just installed a new f13 system clean in a machine that was previously running and needed updating and I have a problem that I can't fix. Everything that I have tested works just fine, except that in Thunderbird (both stock as well as latest nightly) if you go to Edit->Preferences->General

Re: Fedora updates getting more like Windows every day

2010-08-22 Thread Brian Mury
On Sun, 2010-08-22 at 10:37 +0530, Siddhesh Poyarekar wrote: > If it is not a kernel update then it will most likely not require > a reboot. Everything else can be made functional through a service > restart at most. Perhaps. However, package-kit more often than not tells me I must reboot after in

Re: Fedora updates getting more like Windows every day

2010-08-22 Thread Digvijay Patankar
On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 10:47 PM, Brian Mury wrote: > On Sun, 2010-08-22 at 10:37 +0530, Siddhesh Poyarekar wrote: > > If it is not a kernel update then it will most likely not require > > a reboot. Everything else can be made functional through a service > > restart at most. > > Perhaps. However,

Re: F13 and sound in Thunderbird

2010-08-22 Thread mike cloaked
On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 6:00 PM, mike cloaked wrote: > I have just installed a new f13 system clean in a machine that was > previously running and needed updating and I have a problem that I > can't fix. > > Everything that I have tested works just fine, except that in > Thunderbird (both stock as

Re: Fedora updates getting more like Windows every day

2010-08-22 Thread Bill Davidsen
Chris Smart wrote: > On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 9:43 AM, Bill Davidsen wrote: >> It's getting so keeping systems up to date with current patches is >> incompatible with reasonable uptime goals. More and more upgrades >> require a reboot, and even reading the CVE data behind the update it's >> not alw

Re: Fedora updates getting more like Windows every day

2010-08-22 Thread Bill Davidsen
Siddhesh Poyarekar wrote: > On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 5:13 AM, Bill Davidsen wrote: >> It's getting so keeping systems up to date with current patches is >> incompatible with reasonable uptime goals. More and more upgrades >> require a reboot, and even reading the CVE data behind the update it's >>

Re: Error reading pen drive

2010-08-22 Thread Bill Davidsen
Tim wrote: > On Sun, 2010-08-22 at 10:48 +0530, Parshwa Murdia wrote: >> Yes, it was failed but the pen drive (in which some videos were there, >> unfortunately which had o back-up!) was formated successfully. And I >> returned it to my friend. Next day, he says, he was not able to work >> with tha

Re: savemail: cannot save rejected email anywhere

2010-08-22 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 08/20/2010 09:39 AM, Kevin J. Cummings wrote: > It looks like sa-milt is getting a-hold of the message first, and > marking it as [SPAM] with a score of 6.2. Then it looks like its > getting run again Yeah, I'm not terribly sure. Honestly, I haven't run Sendmail on a mail server in close

F13: httpd log errors?

2010-08-22 Thread Daniel B. Thurman
Seems there are errors spewing from httpd when starting: /etc/httpd/logs/error_log === [Sun Aug 22 11:26:15 2010] [notice] SELinux policy enabled; httpd running as context unconfined_u:system_r:httpd_t:s0 ^ httpd is running unconfined_u? [Sun Aug 22 11:26:15 2010] [notice] s

Re: Slow network with F13 [SOLVED]

2010-08-22 Thread Bill Davidsen
Roberto Ragusa wrote: > john wendel wrote: > >> Looks like I'll spend a little time poking at F13 scp and see if I can >> improve the transfer speed. > > Maybe you are using compression? Compression is a disadvantage when > the network is fast (gigabit); you just spend CPU time. > > Then there

Re: faster /dev/random

2010-08-22 Thread Bill Davidsen
Wolfgang S. Rupprecht wrote: > Is there an approved way to increase the speed at which the random pool > for /dev/random fills up? I'm playig with dnssec and getnerating 2k rsa > keys is taking up to 3 hours. I've been googling a bit and Intel x86_64 > machines seem to have random number hardware

RE: Slow network with F13 [SOLVED]

2010-08-22 Thread Joseph L. Casale
>There actually is a patch to provide encryption "none" to improve speed and >reduce CPU for trusted connections. That would be cool, but you can avoid this by rsyncing over an alternative transport, like rsh to a remote rsync daemon which you can instantiate off the cmd line trivially... jlc -

Re: Fedora updates getting more like Windows every day

2010-08-22 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sun, 2010-08-22 at 10:17 -0700, Brian Mury wrote: > If an update requires a service restart, it would be nice if > package-kit > would tell me that, instead of telling me a reboot is required. Even > nicer would be if it would restart the service for me :-). I don't use package-kit, but yum-uti

Re: F13: services marked as disabled, are shown to be running.

2010-08-22 Thread Robert G. (Doc) Savage
On Fri, 2010-08-20 at 14:06 -0700, JD wrote: > After bootup, (Run Level 5), I ran > System->Administration->Services > > I checked each service that was marked red (disabled). > For a few of these disabled services, status was shown to be running. > These services were: > > > akmods > capi > h

Re: Fedora updates getting more like Windows every day

2010-08-22 Thread Ranjan Maitra
On Sun, 22 Aug 2010 15:40:37 -0430 "Patrick O'Callaghan" wrote: > On Sun, 2010-08-22 at 10:17 -0700, Brian Mury wrote: > > If an update requires a service restart, it would be nice if > > package-kit > > would tell me that, instead of telling me a reboot is required. Even > > nicer would be if it

Re: Fedora updates getting more like Windows every day

2010-08-22 Thread Frank Murphy
On 22/08/10 22:05, Ranjan Maitra wrote: >> >> I don't use package-kit, but yum-utils contains a clever little Python >> script called needs-restarting which you can run after updating: >> >> poc > > > How does one get this? yum install what? > I believe "yum install yum-utils" -- Regards, Fran

Re: savemail: cannot save rejected email anywhere

2010-08-22 Thread Kevin J. Cummings
On 08/22/2010 02:12 PM, Gordon Messmer wrote: > On 08/20/2010 09:39 AM, Kevin J. Cummings wrote: >> It looks like sa-milt is getting a-hold of the message first, and >> marking it as [SPAM] with a score of 6.2. Then it looks like its >> getting run again > > Yeah, I'm not terribly sure. Hone

Re: Upgrade with little RAM

2010-08-22 Thread Ken
On Saturday 21 August 2010 04:02:41 Timothy Murphy wrote: > I have a Thinkpad T23 with 512MB RAM, > which I seldom use. > (It is kept in a holiday location.) > > It is currently running Fedora-10, > which probably shows when it was last used. > I tried installing Fedora-13 from the KDE Live CD, > a

Re: No WIFI under HP Probook 4515s

2010-08-22 Thread JB
Zoltan Hoppar gmail.com> writes: > ... > Still shows no wifi network, just "disconnected" at NM. > > But the driver is in: (lspci -vnn) > > 06:00.0 Network controller [0280]: Broadcom Corporation BCM4312 802.11b/g > LP-PHY [14e4:4315] (rev 01) >Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company Device [103c:

Re: Migrating data off a failing drive

2010-08-22 Thread Suvayu Ali
Hi Suomi and JB, On Saturday 21 August 2010 10:37 PM, fedora wrote: > Hi Suvayu > I have made bad experiences with LVM toghether with ext4 and fedora 13. > I got hundreds of > I have been using LVM for some time now. And my experience has been quite pleasant. I think I'll stick to it for a while

Re: Fedora updates getting more like Windows every day

2010-08-22 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sun, 2010-08-22 at 16:05 -0500, Ranjan Maitra wrote: > > I don't use package-kit, but yum-utils contains a clever little > Python > > script called needs-restarting which you can run after updating: > > > > """Report a list of process ids of programs that started > > runnin

Re: Fedora updates getting more like Windows every day

2010-08-22 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sun, 2010-08-22 at 16:05 -0500, Ranjan Maitra wrote: > It would be nice if we could have a yum option which says > skip-needs-reboot. Then we could only get updates that need reboot > when we wanted those while updating the others more regularly. Perhaps > that is what your python script does.

Re: grub menu is automatically skipped

2010-08-22 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Mon, 2010-08-23 at 00:24 +0800, Hoang Le wrote: > Dear friends, > > I have a problem with grub on fedora 13. > After hibernation, I found that I couldn't boot into Windows 7 just > because the grub menu showed up and disappear immediately and then my > laptop booted into fedora right away. Fed

Re: Fedora updates getting more like Windows every day

2010-08-22 Thread Chris Smart
On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 3:17 AM, Brian Mury wrote: > > If an update requires a service restart, it would be nice if package-kit > would tell me that, instead of telling me a reboot is required. Even > nicer would be if it would restart the service for me :-). > I have had very good experiences wi

Re: faster /dev/random

2010-08-22 Thread Chris Smart
On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 5:34 AM, Bill Davidsen wrote: > To be honest, I thought the data from the TCO random generator was funneled in > already. That's what the "intel-rng" module does. > I don't think that modern Intel CPU's include this function.. -c -- users mailing list users@lists.fedorap

Re: Migrating data off a failing drive

2010-08-22 Thread JB
Suvayu Ali gmail.com> writes: > ... Some additional hints: - one more link to read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery - unmount source when doing dd-type operation - consider destination size when doing dd-type operation (it must be equal or greater than source) Note: /* quote

Re: grub menu is automatically skipped

2010-08-22 Thread Mikkel
On 08/22/2010 04:38 PM, Aaron Konstam wrote: > > I am glad you solved you problem but I am amazed that default worked. > Hibernate saves the state of the system at the time you tell it to > hibernate. When you return you load back the system to the state you > had before hibernation. Which means

Re: F13: services marked as disabled, are shown to be running.

2010-08-22 Thread JD
On 08/22/2010 01:38 PM, Robert G. (Doc) Savage wrote: > JD, > > It's possible that system-config-services is not working correctly. As > an alternative, use chkconfig to look at the default startup status for > each of those services: > # chkconfig --list | grep akmods > akmods 0:off 1

Rsync + Windows 7 - backing up to linux server

2010-08-22 Thread Max Pyziur
Greetings, I have successfully been using rsync to backup my Linux desktop and laptop for several years. My current goal is to automatically backup a Windows 7 desktop to a linux server using rsync. I've found guidance here: http://www.gaztronics.net/rsync.php I have installed Cygwin along with

Re: Rsync + Windows 7 - backing up to linux server

2010-08-22 Thread Larry Brower
Max Pyziur wrote: > Greetings, > > I have successfully been using rsync to backup my Linux desktop and laptop > for several years. > > My current goal is to automatically backup a Windows 7 desktop to a linux > server using rsync. I've found guidance here: > http://www.gaztronics.net/rsync.php >

Re: F13: services marked as disabled, are shown to be running.

2010-08-22 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sun, 2010-08-22 at 18:39 -0700, JD wrote: > On 08/22/2010 01:38 PM, Robert G. (Doc) Savage wrote: > > JD, > > > > It's possible that system-config-services is not working correctly. As > > an alternative, use chkconfig to look at the default startup status for > > each of those services: > > # c

Re: grub menu is automatically skipped

2010-08-22 Thread Hoang Le
I'm providing a little bit more detail if you're interested. I installed Windows first and then came Fedora, I installed grub on MBR. I don't know why but I tried fedora 13 once before and got the same problem. I used fedora 13 for several days until I try hibernation and it didn't work proper

Re: F13: services marked as disabled, are shown to be running.

2010-08-22 Thread JD
On 08/22/2010 07:25 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Sun, 2010-08-22 at 18:39 -0700, JD wrote: >> On 08/22/2010 01:38 PM, Robert G. (Doc) Savage wrote: >>> JD, >>> >>> It's possible that system-config-services is not working correctly. As >>> an alternative, use chkconfig to look at the defaul

Re: Rsync + Windows 7 - backing up to linux server

2010-08-22 Thread Max Pyziur
On Sun, 22 Aug 2010, Larry Brower wrote: > Max Pyziur wrote: >> Greetings, >> >> I have successfully been using rsync to backup my Linux desktop and laptop >> for several years. >> >> My current goal is to automatically backup a Windows 7 desktop to a linux >> server using rsync. I've found guidan

Re: Rsync + Windows 7 - backing up to linux server

2010-08-22 Thread Genes MailLists
On 08/22/2010 10:50 PM, Max Pyziur wrote: A couple things to try maybe .. (i) run ssh-agent on the windows box (its in cygwin too I think) - human auth to that and then run script (not sure if this is ok for your needs or not) (ii) fully automatic no human auth required - you'd need

Re: F13: services marked as disabled, are shown to be running.

2010-08-22 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sun, 2010-08-22 at 19:33 -0700, JD wrote: > On 08/22/2010 07:25 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > On Sun, 2010-08-22 at 18:39 -0700, JD wrote: > >> On 08/22/2010 01:38 PM, Robert G. (Doc) Savage wrote: > >>> JD, > >>> > >>> It's possible that system-config-services is not working correctly. As

Re: F13: services marked as disabled, are shown to be running.

2010-08-22 Thread JD
On 08/22/2010 08:34 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Sun, 2010-08-22 at 19:33 -0700, JD wrote: >> On 08/22/2010 07:25 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: >>> On Sun, 2010-08-22 at 18:39 -0700, JD wrote: On 08/22/2010 01:38 PM, Robert G. (Doc) Savage wrote: > JD, > > It's possible t

Re: Thinkpad A22p/Improper Video on Install

2010-08-22 Thread James McKenzie
Robert G. (Doc) Savage wrote: > On Mon, 2010-07-26 at 20:21 -0700, James McKenzie wrote: > >> I'm trying to install FC8 on my old, creaky Thinkpad A22p (ATI Rage >> Mobility Rage 3) and the video from the graphical installer is not >> correct. I get about 1/3 of the orginal screen, then 1/3 o

Re: Thinkpad A22p/Improper Video on Install

2010-08-22 Thread Ed Greshko
On 08/23/2010 12:07 PM, James McKenzie wrote: > Re-installed and now my video is still 'messed' up. Where can I find > the gtf utility? yum whatprovides /usr/bin/gtf -- If a man has talent and cannot use it, he has failed. -- Thomas Wolfe 葛 斯克 愛德華 / 台北市八德路四段 signature.asc Description: Ope

Re: F13: services marked as disabled, are shown to be running.

2010-08-22 Thread Robert G. (Doc) Savage
On Sun, 2010-08-22 at 20:52 -0700, JD wrote: > There is a problem with system-config-services. JD, I would have to agree. Time to BZ s-c-s. Fortunately chkconfig and ps give you independent confirmations that the unwanted services are not actually running, no matter what s-c-s may say. Good luc

Re: Thinkpad A22p/Improper Video on Install

2010-08-22 Thread Robert G. (Doc) Savage
On Sun, 2010-08-22 at 21:07 -0700, James McKenzie wrote: > Robert G. (Doc) Savage wrote: > > James, > > > > My A22p has the same problem. I have had to use the basic (VESA) video > > driver whenever installing Fedora. A couple of weeks ago I finally found > > the 'gtf' utility which computed the r

Re: F13: services marked as disabled, are shown to be running.

2010-08-22 Thread Greg Woods
On Sun, 2010-08-22 at 20:52 -0700, JD wrote: > Please, stop the noise! > I am sure there are people who will be tryinf this for themselves > and see that it is the case. There is a problem with system-config-services. > Enough from you. > If this is how you are going to treat people who try to h

Re: F13: services marked as disabled, are shown to be running.

2010-08-22 Thread JD
On 08/22/2010 09:16 PM, Robert G. (Doc) Savage wrote: > On Sun, 2010-08-22 at 20:52 -0700, JD wrote: >> There is a problem with system-config-services. > JD, > > I would have to agree. Time to BZ s-c-s. Fortunately chkconfig and ps > give you independent confirmations that the unwanted services a

Re: Fedora updates getting more like Windows every day

2010-08-22 Thread Tim
On Sun, 2010-08-22 at 10:17 -0700, Brian Mury wrote: > package-kit more often than not tells me I must reboot after > installing updates. Perhaps it is being over-zealous, but I agree > with the OP that it makes updates feel a lot like Windows. At least, with us, you generally only have to reboot

Re: faster /dev/random

2010-08-22 Thread Tim
On Sun, 2010-08-22 at 17:46 +0200, Roberto Ragusa wrote: > As for 1) there are hardware generators based on physical phenomenons > (from electronic noise to nuclear decay). I would suggest you to use > an audio input sampling some noise (fan noise). The ambient noise > in addition to the electrical

Re: Fedora updates getting more like Windows every day

2010-08-22 Thread David
On 8/23/2010 1:07 AM, Tim wrote: > On Sun, 2010-08-22 at 10:17 -0700, Brian Mury wrote: >> package-kit more often than not tells me I must reboot after >> installing updates. Perhaps it is being over-zealous, but I agree >> with the OP that it makes updates feel a lot like Windows. > > At least, w

Re: Fedora updates getting more like Windows every day

2010-08-22 Thread Tim
Tim: >> At least, with us, you generally only have to reboot to use the >> update. You can stay on the prior one, in the meantime. Unlike >> Windows, which often has to reboot, you can't keep on using the >> computer, or other things won't install until you reboot. David: > This is mostly FUD by

Re: Fedora updates getting more like Windows every day

2010-08-22 Thread David
On 8/23/2010 2:17 AM, Tim wrote: > Tim: >>> At least, with us, you generally only have to reboot to use the >>> update. You can stay on the prior one, in the meantime. Unlike >>> Windows, which often has to reboot, you can't keep on using the >>> computer, or other things won't install until you r