Gene Smith, who is working Mozilla bug 1460104, suggests changing
"mail.server.default.mime_parts_on_demand" to false in Thunderbird's config
editor. I tried it. It works. Messages from this list now display correctly
in Thunderbird. Furthermore, messages now download significantly faster.
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(I posted this last night, but the posting seems to have gotten lost.)
Last night, I submitted Mozilla bug #1460104 to address this issue.
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ok. I thank everyone who tried to help.
Once Thunderbird 52.7 (or later) is added to the Fedora repository, and I've
verified the fix to a separate Thunderbird issue, I'll try to communicate with
Thunderbird people about this issue. If they suggest submitting
Allegedly, on or about 5 April 2018, Samuel Sieb sent:
> Yes, as I suspected, Evolution just grabs the whole message instead
> of asking the server about the different parts. I think that means
> that Thunderbird would be able to show the message without
> downloading any large attachments, but Ev
On 04/05/2018 12:12 PM, home user via users wrote:
I went the grep route. As best as I can determine, all personal e-mail addresses have been
replaced with "[e-mail address]", all passwords have been replaced with
"[password]", and my ip addresses are not in the file. I fpasted it:
I forgot
I went the grep route. As best as I can determine, all personal e-mail
addresses have been replaced with "[e-mail address]", all passwords have been
replaced with "[password]", and my ip addresses are not in the file. I fpasted
it:
bash.9[~]: fpaste -t "logs from Evolution run" evlog_sanitize
On 04/05/2018 08:48 AM, home user via users wrote:
I think I got it. The log file is a mere 15 thousand lines long, and is loaded
with private information. How do I quickly and easily cut this down to a
reasonable size?
Maybe try the other method with Evolution's logging?
Otherwise, try to
I think I got it. The log file is a mere 15 thousand lines long, and is loaded
with private information. How do I quickly and easily cut this down to a
reasonable size?
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On 04/04/2018 08:05 AM, home user via users wrote:
3. socat -v tcp-l:143 openssl:imap.mail.yahoo.com:993 2>evolog.txt
This is the correct one.
After entering that, I launched Evolution, and entered the info. for the yahoo
e-mail account that I use for this list. When that was done and the a
I tried the socat logging 3 ways, all as root.
1. socat -v tcp-l:143 openssl:localhost:993 2>evolog.txt
After entering that, I launched Evolution, and created a new local e-mail
account. When that was done, I quitted Evolution, and then terminated the
socat by entering CTRL-C in the terminal.
On 04/02/2018 12:58 PM, home user via users wrote:
... socat -v tcp-l:143 openssl:your.mail.server:993
1. What do I put in for "your.mail.server"? As far as I know, I don't have one. or is
that "imap.mail.yahoo.com"?
Whatever you currently have as the imap server for the mail account.
Prob
> ... socat -v tcp-l:143 openssl:your.mail.server:993
1. What do I put in for "your.mail.server"? As far as I know, I don't have
one. or is that "imap.mail.yahoo.com"?
> Then create an account in Evolution that connects to imap (not imaps) at
> "localhost".
2. I don't fully understand. What a
(junk mail filtering)
I have two filters. Both are based on the "From" e-mail address only. In both
cases, when a message matches, the message is first marked as read, and then
deleted. Messages/digests from Fedora lists will not match the two filters.
(other filtering)
There is no other filt
On 03/30/2018 02:30 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
On Thu, 2018-03-29 at 23:48 -0700, Samuel Sieb wrote:
I expect that Evolution is not using the same IMAP requests as
Thunderbird did. Thunderbird was getting the server to parse the email
somewhat and give it the details. Evolution may just be
On Thu, 2018-03-29 at 23:48 -0700, Samuel Sieb wrote:
> I expect that Evolution is not using the same IMAP requests as
> Thunderbird did. Thunderbird was getting the server to parse the email
> somewhat and give it the details. Evolution may just be asking the
> server to send it the whole thi
I expect that Evolution is not using the same IMAP requests as
Thunderbird did. Thunderbird was getting the server to parse the email
somewhat and give it the details. Evolution may just be asking the
server to send it the whole thing. I don't know if Evolution has some
way to log the protoc
Allegedly, on or about 29 March 2018, home user via users sent:
> Earlier this afternoon, from Thunderbird running on a windows-7 box,
> I sent 2 messages from yahoo account #1 to yahoo account #2, each
> with different few-megabyte (not mega-pixel) picture attached. I
> also sent 1 message from y
Earlier this afternoon, from Thunderbird running on a windows-7 box, I sent 2
messages from yahoo account #1 to yahoo account #2, each with different
few-megabyte (not mega-pixel) picture attached. I also sent 1 message from
yahoo account #1 to yahoo account #3; it had one few-megabyte picture
Allegedly, on or about 26 March 2018, home user sent:
> I tried Evolution several times over the last few days. Fedora users
> lists show up just fine. Downloads seem almost instantaneous.
>
> I used Thunderbird to send a 5+megabyte (not megapixel) picture as an
> attachment to an e-mail to myse
I did the comcast speed test twice. I got download speeds of 66-68 Mbps and
upload speeds of about 6.6 Mbps.
I tried Evolution several times over the last few days. Fedora users lists
show up just fine. Downloads seem almost instantaneous.
I used Thunderbird to send a 5+megabyte (not megapix
Allegedly, on or about 21 March 2018, home user sent:
> eno1: flags=4163 mtu 1500
> inet [private?] netmask 255.255.255.0 broadcast [private?]
> inet6 [private?] prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x0
> inet6 [private?] prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x20
> ether [private?] txqueuel
Here are the results of "ifconfig", with ip addresses replaced with
"[private?]":
=
bash.2[~]: ifconfig
eno1: flags=4163 mtu 1500
inet [private?] netmask 255.255.255.0 broadcast [private?]
inet6 [private?] prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x0
inet6 [private?] prefixlen 64 sc
Allegedly, on or about 20 March 2018, Samuel Sieb sent:
> If you look further up the thread past what was quoted, Tim
> mentioned that it might be an MTU problem.
Correct, as a thing worth checking with some of the problems described.
Although, his comments about other things working may suggest
On 03/20/2018 03:47 PM, Rick Stevens wrote:
I really rather doubt MTU is what this is about. I think what he was
really asking is 'what is "MTA"' (an email-related thing). In that case,
it's the Mail Transport Agent (software that moves mail between hosts
using the SMTP protocol). The most common
On Tue, 2018-03-20 at 15:47 -0700, Rick Stevens wrote:
> Finally, there's the MUA (Mail User Agent), which is essentially what
> end users use to view the mail. There's tons of those, but most common
> I've found on Linux are Thunderbird, claws-mail, mutt, Balsa, KDEMail,
> etc. Note that it is the
On 03/20/2018 11:02 AM, Samuel Sieb wrote:
> On 03/20/2018 10:24 AM, home user wrote:
>> Point: downloading in Thunderbird of folder structure, message
>> headers, and messages (especially with attachments) are the only cases
>> in which I experience slowness. Youtubes, high-resolution weather
>>
On 03/20/2018 10:24 AM, home user wrote:
Point: downloading in Thunderbird of folder structure, message headers, and messages
(especially with attachments) are the only cases in which I experience slowness.
Youtubes, high-resolution weather satellite loops, and the download phase of my weekly
Before starting a new thread, one point and a couple of questions.
Point: downloading in Thunderbird of folder structure, message headers, and
messages (especially with attachments) are the only cases in which I experience
slowness. Youtubes, high-resolution weather satellite loops, and the do
Allegedly, on or about 19 March 2018, William sent:
> I've seen posts to closed and solved issues before, so if anyone has
> something helpful, go ahead and post it, or start a new thread
A thought just occurred to me: In the past, often when someone had an
issue where data came through in dribs
If I understand Samuel's most recent response, this problem is
unsolvable by us and by Thunderbird.
I'm closing this. I've seen posts to closed and solved issues before,
so if anyone has something helpful, go ahead and post it, or start a new
thread. I'll be checking Fedora HYPERKITTY almost
On 03/16/2018 12:53 PM, William Mattison wrote:
That worked. Thank-you Samuel. The log is here:
"https://paste.fedoraproject.org/paste/07xQurGCBVjXYes1PUleiw";
I'll add that this bug is partially random. I only see the problem (and other problems)
on messages with attachments. But the proble
That worked. Thank-you Samuel. The log is here:
"https://paste.fedoraproject.org/paste/07xQurGCBVjXYes1PUleiw";
I'll add that this bug is partially random. I only see the problem (and other
problems) on messages with attachments. But the problem does not always show
up on messages with attach
On 03/15/2018 08:51 AM, William Mattison wrote:
Tried it:
bash.4[~]: export MOZ_LOG_FILE=/[myhome]/thunderbird/log
bash.5[~]: export MOZ_LOG=IMAP:5,timestamp
Looking through the source code, I found that the environment variables
used are different now. You want "NSPR_LOG_FILE" and "NSPR_LOG_M
On 03/15/2018 08:51 AM, William Mattison wrote:
What I was suggesting...
KSysGuard shows that yahoo feeds data to Thunderbird in very teeny chunks. A
message with an attached photo took about an hour to download yesterday. I
also access my e-mail from multiple workstation accounts and opera
> What I was suggesting...
KSysGuard shows that yahoo feeds data to Thunderbird in very teeny chunks. A
message with an attached photo took about an hour to download yesterday. I
also access my e-mail from multiple workstation accounts and operating systems.
So some time ago, I set all my e-
On 03/14/2018 07:38 PM, William Mattison wrote:
I saved that [etc.]
That does work.
Good, so that means that Thunderbird does eventually get the whole
intact message and can read it.
... Try closing ...
cough gag cough cough choke gag cough
On March 06, I started a thread titled
> I saved that [etc.]
That does work.
> ... Try closing ...
cough gag cough cough choke gag cough
On March 06, I started a thread titled "Thunderbird issue (OT).". I never saw
any replies. The problem remains completely unsolved. Actually, it's now
worse! I've experienced that probl
On 03/14/2018 04:57 PM, William Mattison wrote:
ok, I figured out how to get the message into the Fedora paste site. It can be
viewed here:
"https://paste.fedoraproject.org/paste/LvQNrf-2pwpvnXbWWxOmow";.
I saved that to a file and Thunderbird opened it with no problem. Try
that yourself.
ok, I figured out how to get the message into the Fedora paste site. It can be
viewed here:
"https://paste.fedoraproject.org/paste/LvQNrf-2pwpvnXbWWxOmow";.
thanks,
Bill.
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On 03/14/2018 04:43 PM, William Mattison wrote:
I saved the "View source" window contents as a text file. What is now the best
way to get that file onto Fedora's paste bin? Last time I tried that (last summer), it
didn't work well. Making the whole message available might be better than me t
I saved the "View source" window contents as a text file. What is now the best
way to get that file onto Fedora's paste bin? Last time I tried that (last
summer), it didn't work well. Making the whole message available might be
better than me trying to guess what would be helpful in diagnosin
Patrick,
I am using the "fedora HYPERKITTY" web interface for all my posts to this
thread. But the e-mail address for my Fedora users list is a yahoo e-mail
address.
Bill.
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On 03/14/2018 02:51 PM, William Mattison wrote:
The header looks fine and there should be 33KB of content. When you
view source do you see the message body?
yes. In "View source", I see 759 lines of stuff. But most looks like
"meta-data", not message body that I would expect to see in the Th
On 03/14/2018 04:05 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
Just so you both know, only Samuel's side of this conversation is
reaching me via the list. Can I assume that William is using Yahoo and
my Gmail account is throwing away his side, or is something else going
on?
Yes, he has a Yahoo email accoun
On Wed, 2018-03-14 at 13:10 -0700, Samuel Sieb wrote:
> On 03/14/2018 12:58 PM, William Mattison wrote:
> > Using the "View source" function, here between the lines of '=' is the
> > header (copied and pasted):
[...]
Just so you both know, only Samuel's side of this conversation is
reaching me v
> The header looks fine and there should be 33KB of content. When you
> view source do you see the message body?
yes. In "View source", I see 759 lines of stuff. But most looks like
"meta-data", not message body that I would expect to see in the Thunderbird
window. The first blank line is li
On 03/14/2018 12:58 PM, William Mattison wrote:
Using the "View source" function, here between the lines of '=' is the header
(copied and pasted):
=
Content-Length: 33542
=
The header looks fine and there should be 33KB of content. When you
view source do you see the message body?
Hi Samuel,
Using the "View source" function, here between the lines of '=' is the header
(copied and pasted):
=
X-Apparently-To: mattison.compu...@yahoo.com; Wed, 14 Mar 2018 11:45:33 +
Return-Path:
Received-SPF: pass (domain of lists.fedoraproject.org designates 209.132.181.2
as permi
On 03/14/2018 10:46 AM, William Mattison wrote:
h
I did a "View source" on the most recent empty-looking message. Everything is
there. The whole thing is 742 lines long. You want the top how many lines? Or how
would I recognize the end of the header?
The end of the header is the f
h
I did a "View source" on the most recent empty-looking message. Everything is
there. The whole thing is 742 lines long. You want the top how many lines?
Or how would I recognize the end of the header?
What displays in the header area (below the list of messages, above where the
me
On 03/14/2018 09:10 AM, William Mattison wrote:
Since March 08, I've received 11 messages from this list that appear empty,
including 2 so far today. I have received a few (less) not empty, none today
and 3 yesterday. What's causing this problem, and how do I fix it? My e-mail
client is Thu
Good morning,
Since March 08, I've received 11 messages from this list that appear empty,
including 2 so far today. I have received a few (less) not empty, none today
and 3 yesterday. What's causing this problem, and how do I fix it? My e-mail
client is Thunderbird 52.5.2.
I will occasional
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