On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 09:23:48AM +0100, Andrew Haley wrote:
> On 07/31/2013 12:59 AM, jdow wrote:
> > Andrew, one thing a woman needs to develop to survive in the technical
> > fields is an incredibly thick skin.
>
> I know, and that's what needs to change or many of the best brains
> will conti
On 07/31/2013 01:59 AM, jdow wrote:
Andrew, one thing a woman needs to develop to survive in the technical
fields is an incredibly thick skin.
I don't see how this "need" is specific to women nor do I see this
"thick skin" is gender specic.
Conversely, the anonymity of the internet gives room
On 07/31/2013 12:59 AM, jdow wrote:
> Andrew, one thing a woman needs to develop to survive in the technical
> fields is an incredibly thick skin.
I know, and that's what needs to change or many of the best brains
will continue to move to jobs where a noisy minority can't get away
with being compl
On 2013/07/30 02:44, Andrew Haley wrote:
On 07/16/2013 06:10 PM, Rex Dieter wrote:
Reindl Harald wrote:
http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.kernel.stable/58049/focus%3D1525074
From: Linus Torvalds linux-foundation.org>
Linus is in a very special category, and I don't think his justificatio
Hi
On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 12:40 PM, Les Howell
>
> Working or not working on a project is a personal choice. Your email
> client has the option to block someone if you do not like the tone of
> their posts. If you do not like the tone of a volunteer group, simply
> do not participate. That i
On Tue, 2013-07-30 at 10:44 +0100, Andrew Haley wrote:
> On 07/16/2013 06:10 PM, Rex Dieter wrote:
> > Reindl Harald wrote:
> >
> >> http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.kernel.stable/58049/focus%3D1525074
> >>
> >> From: Linus Torvalds linux-foundation.org>
> >
> > Linus is in a very special cat
On 07/16/2013 06:10 PM, Rex Dieter wrote:
> Reindl Harald wrote:
>
>> http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.kernel.stable/58049/focus%3D1525074
>>
>> From: Linus Torvalds linux-foundation.org>
>
> Linus is in a very special category, and I don't think his justifications
> can be applied to virtua
On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 11:21 AM, Olav Vitters wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 08:26:26AM +0200, lee wrote:
> > I don't know what the point is in moderating his posts. He does things
>
> Then you haven't seen his messages that haven't made it through the
> moderation queue. I know not all make
On Thu, 18 Jul 2013, lee wrote:
inode0 writes:
On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 10:57 AM, Michael Hennebry
wrote:
This is a reply to a reply sent directly to me as well as to the list.
Moderation makes a horrible mess of the flow of discussion. Please
don't get mad at each other for getting confus
On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 08:26:26AM +0200, lee wrote:
> I don't know what the point is in moderating his posts. He does things
Then you haven't seen his messages that haven't made it through the
moderation queue. I know not all make it through (CC to inbox). No clue
what is in those, I only read t
On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 08:26:26 +0200,
lee wrote:
inode0 writes:
It's usually considered bad behaviour to send Ccs to the poster when
replying to posts on mailing lists. Since Harald's post are moderated,
he cannot know whether his posts will get through or not and how long
they might be d
inode0 writes:
> On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 10:57 AM, Michael Hennebry
> wrote:
>> This is a reply to a reply sent directly to me as well as to the list.
>
> Moderation makes a horrible mess of the flow of discussion. Please
> don't get mad at each other for getting confused by or not noticing
> th
Wed, 17 Jul 2013 10:20:22 +0200
Reindl Harald kirjoitti:
>
> that i have a lot of knowledge and don't give too
> much to always be the nice guy?
Quess not that knowledge about those STRONG swear words,
what Linus uses every now and then? That is only difference :D :D.
You learn those Finnish S
Allegedly, on or about 16 July 2013, Craig White sent:
> multiple threads originated by Reindl Harald on the topic of
> etiquette?
It's how the perpetrator transforms themselves into the victim.
And it appears that they've virtually succeeded.
--
All mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted
about the LoL's!)
- Reply message -
From: "Reindl Harald"
To: "Community support for Fedora users"
Subject: a different point of view to "etiquette"
Date: Wed, Jul 17, 2013 3:48 pm
Am 17.07.2013 21:43, schrieb Carroll Grigsby:
> On Wed, 17 Jul 2013 14:53:18 -0
Am 17.07.2013 20:53, schrieb Eddie G. O'Connor Jr.:
> I have been "watching" these emails pile up and when I open themthey're
> just comments and opinions. If there's
> is no "knowledge" being dispensed with this thread can it be closed?...or
> taken off-list? just a humble request
> asked i
Am 17.07.2013 21:43, schrieb Carroll Grigsby:
> On Wed, 17 Jul 2013 14:53:18 -0400
> "Eddie G. O'Connor Jr." wrote:
>
>>> Big snip
>
>> I have been "watching" these emails pile up and when I open
>> themthey're just comments and opinions. If there's is no
>> "knowledge" being dispensed with
Am 17.07.2013 20:53, schrieb Eddie G. O'Connor Jr.:
> On 07/17/2013 12:28 AM, Bill Davidsen wrote:
>> Roger wrote:
>>> Thank you Linus and others.
>>> As I see it, this discussion has little to do with culture, nations or
>>> ideologies and a lot to do with rubbishing another person or their idea
Am 17.07.2013 21:05, schrieb Michael Hennebry:
> Sent to RH directly as well as through list.
>
> On Wed, 17 Jul 2013, Reindl Harald wrote:
>
>> Am 17.07.2013 17:57, schrieb Michael Hennebry:
>>> This is a reply to a reply sent directly to me as well as to the list.
>>
>> because i only have li
On Wed, 17 Jul 2013 14:53:18 -0400
"Eddie G. O'Connor Jr." wrote:
>> Big snip
> I have been "watching" these emails pile up and when I open
> themthey're just comments and opinions. If there's is no
> "knowledge" being dispensed with this thread can it be closed?...or
> taken off-list? just
Sent to RH directly as well as through list.
On Wed, 17 Jul 2013, Reindl Harald wrote:
Am 17.07.2013 17:57, schrieb Michael Hennebry:
This is a reply to a reply sent directly to me as well as to the list.
because i only have little understanding in moderation
that takes days and makes *a lo
On 07/17/2013 12:28 AM, Bill Davidsen wrote:
Roger wrote:
Thank you Linus and others.
As I see it, this discussion has little to do with culture, nations or
ideologies and a lot to do with rubbishing another person or their
ideas for
what ever reason.
We are all equal, some have more knowledg
Am 17.07.2013 17:57, schrieb Michael Hennebry:
> This is a reply to a reply sent directly to me as well as to the list.
because i only have little understanding in moderation
that takes days and makes *a lot* of more damage by
destroy any communication as 100 rough messages
ever could do
> On Tu
Am 17.07.2013 05:28, schrieb Craig White:
> On Tue, 2013-07-16 at 15:31 +0200, Reindl Harald wrote:
>> http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.kernel.stable/58049/focus%3D1525074
>>
>> From: Linus Torvalds linux-foundation.org>
>> Subject: Re: [ 00/19] 3.10.1-stable review
>> Newsgroups: gmane.linux
and now you are feeling cool or smart because quote out
of context by knowing that the original post comes after
your asnwer by moderation?
Am 16.07.2013 23:21, schrieb Michael Hennebry:
> On Tue, 16 Jul 2013, Reindl Harald wrote:
>> Am 16.07.2013 20:47, schrieb Michael Hennebry:
>
>>> How about
Am 16.07.2013 20:47, schrieb Michael Hennebry:
> On Tue, 16 Jul 2013, Reindl Harald wrote:
>> http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.kernel.stable/58049/focus%3D1525074
>>
>> From: Linus Torvalds linux-foundation.org>
>> Subject: Re: [ 00/19] 3.10.1-stable review
>> Newsgroups: gmane.linux.kernel.s
Am 16.07.2013 20:40, schrieb Patrick O'Callaghan:
> On Tue, 2013-07-16 at 13:22 -0400, Fernando Cassia wrote:
>> On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 1:10 PM, Rex Dieter wrote:
>>> Linus is in a very special category, and I don't think his justifications
>>> can be applied to virtually any one else. Especia
Am 16.07.2013 19:10, schrieb Rex Dieter:
> Reindl Harald wrote:
>
>> http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.kernel.stable/58049/focus%3D1525074
>>
>> From: Linus Torvalds linux-foundation.org>
>
> Linus is in a very special category, and I don't think his justifications
> can be applied to virtu
On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 10:57 AM, Michael Hennebry
wrote:
> This is a reply to a reply sent directly to me as well as to the list.
Moderation makes a horrible mess of the flow of discussion. Please
don't get mad at each other for getting confused by or not noticing
the effect it has. I'm about to
This is a reply to a reply sent directly to me as well as to the list.
On Tue, 16 Jul 2013, Reindl Harald wrote:
and now you are feeling cool or smart because quote out
of context by knowing that the original post comes after
your asnwer by moderation?
What context should I have added that I
On 07/16/2013 09:43 PM, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
I for one have more problems with people wanting to silence people for
"etiquette" reasons, than I have with people being using what some
people consider to be rude language.
Yes, especially when you consider how much trouble you can get into
simp
On 07/16/2013 07:10 PM, Rex Dieter wrote:
Reindl Harald wrote:
http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.kernel.stable/58049/focus%3D1525074
From: Linus Torvalds linux-foundation.org>
Linus is in a very special category,
Sure.
and I don't think his justifications
can be applied to virtually an
Roger wrote:
Thank you Linus and others.
As I see it, this discussion has little to do with culture, nations or
ideologies and a lot to do with rubbishing another person or their ideas for
what ever reason.
We are all equal, some have more knowledge than others.
No Roger, when it comes to desi
Craig White wrote:
On Tue, 2013-07-16 at 15:31 +0200, Reindl Harald wrote:
http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.kernel.stable/58049/focus%3D1525074
From: Linus Torvalds linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [ 00/19] 3.10.1-stable review
Newsgroups: gmane.linux.kernel.stable, gmane.linux.kernel
Dat
On Tue, 2013-07-16 at 15:31 +0200, Reindl Harald wrote:
> http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.kernel.stable/58049/focus%3D1525074
>
> From: Linus Torvalds linux-foundation.org>
> Subject: Re: [ 00/19] 3.10.1-stable review
> Newsgroups: gmane.linux.kernel.stable, gmane.linux.kernel
> Date: 2013-07
Thank you Linus and others.
As I see it, this discussion has little to do with culture, nations or
ideologies and a lot to do with rubbishing another person or their ideas
for what ever reason.
We are all equal, some have more knowledge than others.
Remember the goal.
The only game in town is
On 07/16/2013 02:21 PM, Michael Hennebry wrote:
I'm not a great believer in subtlety either.
I don't think that it's being subtle to say, "That's probably not a good
idea because..." That's just telling somebody why their idea won't work
instead of just saying, "Don't do that!" The first
On Tue, 16 Jul 2013, Reindl Harald wrote:
Am 16.07.2013 20:47, schrieb Michael Hennebry:
How about "Please don't do that. It won't work because "?
besides the fact that people who do not spend one second
to search and read docs they are anyways unable to understand
a answer with backg
On Tue, 16 Jul 2013, Reindl Harald wrote:
http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.kernel.stable/58049/focus%3D1525074
From: Linus Torvalds linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [ 00/19] 3.10.1-stable review
Newsgroups: gmane.linux.kernel.stable, gmane.linux.kernel
Date: 2013-07-15 18:17:06 GMT (19 ho
On Tue, 2013-07-16 at 13:22 -0400, Fernando Cassia wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 1:10 PM, Rex Dieter wrote:
> > Linus is in a very special category, and I don't think his justifications
> > can be applied to virtually any one else. Especially, not *here*.
>
> I support Linus' position. Which
On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 1:10 PM, Rex Dieter wrote:
> Linus is in a very special category, and I don't think his justifications
> can be applied to virtually any one else. Especially, not *here*.
I support Linus' position. Which is related to my sig file. Sometimes
telling the truth and being bl
Reindl Harald wrote:
> http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.kernel.stable/58049/focus%3D1525074
>
> From: Linus Torvalds linux-foundation.org>
Linus is in a very special category, and I don't think his justifications
can be applied to virtually any one else. Especially, not *here*.
-- rex
--
http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.kernel.stable/58049/focus%3D1525074
From: Linus Torvalds linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [ 00/19] 3.10.1-stable review
Newsgroups: gmane.linux.kernel.stable, gmane.linux.kernel
Date: 2013-07-15 18:17:06 GMT (19 hours and 12 minutes ago)
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