Re: tip: Firefox -> File -> eMail link: Thunderbird is already running

2024-12-14 Thread Tim via users
Tim: >> Usually I'd say the worse browser was MSIE (pronounce "misery"). ToddAndMargo: > The "ActiveX" that went with misery was responsible for a lot of > virus infections. I'm not in the least surprised. The concept of "don't trust random things" just isn't in their head (the programmers and t

Re: tip: Firefox -> File -> eMail link: Thunderbird is already running

2024-12-14 Thread Bob Marčan via users
On Sat, 14 Dec 2024 09:21:10 +1100 "Stephen Morris" wrote: > > > > > I tried the second site with Chrome and it seems to work fine in that browse > too, although I did find with Chrome I had to attempt the translation twice > because the first time failed to translate. > > regards, > Steve

Re: tip: Firefox -> File -> eMail link: Thunderbird is already running

2024-12-14 Thread Bob Marčan via users
On Sat, 14 Dec 2024 09:16:46 +1100 "Stephen Morris" wrote: > > > At what point does the second site fail for you? I didn't activate the > translation and I can click on links in the page without any issues. I'm also > not compiling firefox, I've downloaded the pre-built version of firefox >

Re: tip: Firefox -> File -> eMail link: Thunderbird is already running

2024-12-13 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 12/13/24 16:16, Tim via users wrote: Usually I'd say the worse browser was MSIE (pronounce "misery"). The "ActiveX" that went with misery was responsible for a lot of virus infections. -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To u

Re: tip: Firefox -> File -> eMail link: Thunderbird is already running

2024-12-13 Thread Tim via users
On Fri, 2024-12-13 at 02:58 -0800, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: > The worst browser I have come across is Midori With noscript running, all I see of their own website was a white page with a spinning wait while we load graphic... Once I allowed scripting, I saw a basic pretty useless website. H

Re: tip: Firefox -> File -> eMail link: Thunderbird is already running

2024-12-13 Thread Stephen Morris
On 14/12/24 09:16, Stephen Morris wrote: On 13/12/24 09:40, Bob Marčan via users wrote: On Thu, 12 Dec 2024 22:22:43 + Bob Marčan via users wrote: On Fri, 13 Dec 2024 08:38:30 +1100 "Stephen Morris" wrote: On 13/12/24 07:18, Bob Marčan via users wrote: On Thu, 12 Dec 2024 11:40:44 -0800

Re: tip: Firefox -> File -> eMail link: Thunderbird is already running

2024-12-13 Thread Stephen Morris
On 13/12/24 09:40, Bob Marčan via users wrote: On Thu, 12 Dec 2024 22:22:43 + Bob Marčan via users wrote: On Fri, 13 Dec 2024 08:38:30 +1100 "Stephen Morris" wrote: On 13/12/24 07:18, Bob Marčan via users wrote: On Thu, 12 Dec 2024 11:40:44 -0800 "ToddAndMargo via users" wrote: On 11/25

Re: tip: Firefox -> File -> eMail link: Thunderbird is already running

2024-12-13 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 12/13/24 01:07, Bob Marčan via users wrote: On Thu, 12 Dec 2024 17:02:33 -0800 "ToddAndMargo via users" wrote: oh ya. 1+ on the crap web sites. oh ya. 2+ on the crap web sites AND browsers. The worst browser I have come across is Midori --

Re: tip: Firefox -> File -> eMail link: Thunderbird is already running

2024-12-13 Thread Bob Marčan via users
On Thu, 12 Dec 2024 17:02:33 -0800 "ToddAndMargo via users" wrote: > > oh ya. 1+ on the crap web sites. oh ya. 2+ on the crap web sites AND browsers. -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le

Re: tip: Firefox -> File -> eMail link: Thunderbird is already running

2024-12-12 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 12/12/24 16:03, Tim wrote: Tim: I've yet to find a site that doesn't work on Firefox ToddAndMargo: It is medical sites were patients look up their medical records and Recreational Vehicles campgrounds. And a few government sites. I'm sure there are sites that fail in some browsers, I've

Re: tip: Firefox -> File -> eMail link: Thunderbird is already running

2024-12-12 Thread Tim via users
Tim: > > I've yet to find a site that doesn't work on Firefox ToddAndMargo: > It is medical sites were patients look up their medical > records and Recreational Vehicles campgrounds. And a few > government sites. I'm sure there are sites that fail in some browsers, I've seen plenty that do in va

Re: tip: Firefox -> File -> eMail link: Thunderbird is already running

2024-12-12 Thread Bob Marčan via users
On Thu, 12 Dec 2024 22:22:43 + Bob Marčan via users wrote: > On Fri, 13 Dec 2024 08:38:30 +1100 > "Stephen Morris" wrote: > > > On 13/12/24 07:18, Bob Marčan via users wrote: > > On Thu, 12 Dec 2024 11:40:44 -0800 > > > "ToddAndMargo via users" wrote: > > > > > > On 11/25/24 16:59, Tim v

Re: tip: Firefox -> File -> eMail link: Thunderbird is already running

2024-12-12 Thread Bob Marčan via users
On Fri, 13 Dec 2024 08:38:30 +1100 "Stephen Morris" wrote: > On 13/12/24 07:18, Bob Marčan via users wrote: > On Thu, 12 Dec 2024 11:40:44 -0800 > > "ToddAndMargo via users" wrote: > > > > On 11/25/24 16:59, Tim via users wrote: > >> I've yet to find a site that doesn't work on Firefox > >>> >

Re: tip: Firefox -> File -> eMail link: Thunderbird is already running

2024-12-12 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Fri, 2024-12-13 at 08:38 +1100, Stephen Morris wrote: > On 13/12/24 07:18, Bob Marčan via users wrote: > > On Thu, 12 Dec 2024 11:40:44 -0800 > > "ToddAndMargo via users" wrote: > > > > > On 11/25/24 16:59, Tim via users wrote: > > > > I've yet to find a site that doesn't work on Firefox > > --

Re: tip: Firefox -> File -> eMail link: Thunderbird is already running

2024-12-12 Thread Stephen Morris
On 13/12/24 07:18, Bob Marčan via users wrote: On Thu, 12 Dec 2024 11:40:44 -0800 "ToddAndMargo via users" wrote: On 11/25/24 16:59, Tim via users wrote: I've yet to find a site that doesn't work on Firefox --- https://mail.proton.me/u/0/all-mail/o4da3Tlhne-ORwaJYsVRoxzBZj3Qm8rbjFjY124klbUrx1

Re: tip: Firefox -> File -> eMail link: Thunderbird is already running

2024-12-12 Thread Bob Marčan via users
On Thu, 12 Dec 2024 11:40:44 -0800 "ToddAndMargo via users" wrote: > On 11/25/24 16:59, Tim via users wrote: > > I've yet to find a site that doesn't work on Firefox > --- https://mail.proton.me/u/0/all-mail/o4da3Tlhne-ORwaJYsVRoxzBZj3Qm8rbjFjY124klbUrx1BQyLu3kIBJKhL6_97rVobQc2a7keiXy3hb5LfJG

Re: tip: Firefox -> File -> eMail link: Thunderbird is already running

2024-12-12 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 11/25/24 16:59, Tim via users wrote: I've yet to find a site that doesn't work on Firefox It is medical sites were patients look up their medical records and Recreational Vehicles campgrounds. And a few government sites. -- ___ users mailing list

Re: tip: Firefox -> File -> eMail link: Thunderbird is already running

2024-11-25 Thread Tim via users
On Mon, 2024-11-25 at 08:21 -0800, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: > If you have not tried Brave Browser, you > should. It uses the "Blink" rendering engine > (same as Chrome), has automatic ad blocking, > does not spy on you, has a private windows > with TOR, and is considered grandparent safe. > >

Re: tip: Firefox -> File -> eMail link: Thunderbird is already running

2024-11-25 Thread Frank Bures
On 2024-11-25 11:21, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 11/25/24 07:18, Frank Bures wrote: I do not use Firefox as my default browser I have eight browser installed.  Firefox is "currently" the default, but is varies. I use them all for various things. If you have not tried Brave Browser, you s

Re: tip: Firefox -> File -> eMail link: Thunderbird is already running

2024-11-25 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 11/25/24 07:18, Frank Bures wrote: I do not use Firefox as my default browser I have eight browser installed. Firefox is "currently" the default, but is varies. I use them all for various things. If you have not tried Brave Browser, you should. It uses the "Blink" rendering engine (same as

Re: tip: Firefox -> File -> eMail link: Thunderbird is already running

2024-11-25 Thread Frank Bures
that same program without asking you to pick something to do the job. At least that happened here (on older software versions). I do not use Firefox as my default browser. I was just trying to reproduce the OP's problem. I found the default setting and it pointed to Chrome. However, when I

Re: tip: Firefox -> File -> eMail link: Thunderbird is already running

2024-11-25 Thread Tim via users
On Sun, 2024-11-24 at 17:04 -0500, Frank Bures wrote: > The above sequence is: > > --> Firefox -> File -> eMail link > > Cheers > Frank Aha! You're not clicking on an email mailto: address in a page, like I thought you were doing. You're emailing someone a link to the page you're browsing (som

Re: tip: Firefox -> File -> eMail link: Thunderbird is already running

2024-11-25 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Mon, 2024-11-25 at 17:38 +1030, Tim via users wrote: > Tim: > > > Yes. I have had to force it to quit sometimes. It doesn't always > > > handle things gracefully if it can't access one of the mail servers. > > Patrick O'Callaghan: > > Try taking it offline and on again (connection icon in the

Re: tip: Firefox -> File -> eMail link: Thunderbird is already running

2024-11-24 Thread Tim via users
Tim: > > Yes. I have had to force it to quit sometimes. It doesn't always > > handle things gracefully if it can't access one of the mail servers. Patrick O'Callaghan: > Try taking it offline and on again (connection icon in the lower left > corner). Tried that, too. But when it gets in a bad

Re: tip: Firefox -> File -> eMail link: Thunderbird is already running

2024-11-24 Thread Stephen Morris
thunderbird-128.4.3-1.fc41.x86_64 firefox-132.0.1-2.fc41.x86_64 Since upgrading from Fedora 39 to Fedora 41, when I go into     --> Firefox -> File -> eMail link I get told that Thunderbird is already running, which it is. The exact steps on how to reproduce it are missing. Simply i

Re: tip: Firefox -> File -> eMail link: Thunderbird is already running

2024-11-24 Thread Frank Bures
On 2024-11-24 16:32, Stephen Morris wrote: On 25/11/24 02:34, Frank Bures wrote: On 2024-11-23 17:50, Stephen Morris wrote: On 24/11/24 05:35, Michael Schwendt wrote: On Sat, 23 Nov 2024 02:43:08 -0800, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: Hi All, Fedora 41 thunderbird-128.4.3-1.fc41.x86_64

Re: tip: Firefox -> File -> eMail link: Thunderbird is already running

2024-11-24 Thread Stephen Morris
On 25/11/24 02:34, Frank Bures wrote: On 2024-11-23 17:50, Stephen Morris wrote: On 24/11/24 05:35, Michael Schwendt wrote: On Sat, 23 Nov 2024 02:43:08 -0800, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: Hi All, Fedora 41 thunderbird-128.4.3-1.fc41.x86_64 firefox-132.0.1-2.fc41.x86_64 Since upgrading

Re: tip: Firefox -> File -> eMail link: Thunderbird is already running

2024-11-24 Thread Frank Bures
On 2024-11-23 17:50, Stephen Morris wrote: On 24/11/24 05:35, Michael Schwendt wrote: On Sat, 23 Nov 2024 02:43:08 -0800, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: Hi All, Fedora 41 thunderbird-128.4.3-1.fc41.x86_64 firefox-132.0.1-2.fc41.x86_64 Since upgrading from Fedora 39 to Fedora 41, when I go

Re: tip: Firefox -> File -> eMail link: Thunderbird is already running

2024-11-24 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sun, 2024-11-24 at 23:42 +1030, Tim via users wrote: > On Sun, 2024-11-24 at 10:55 +, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > FWIW: Evolution has multiple parts (try 'pgrep evolution' to see them). > > Simply quitting the GUI will not shut it down. I'm sure you know this, > > but if you really want t

Re: tip: Firefox -> File -> eMail link: Thunderbird is already running

2024-11-24 Thread Tim via users
On Sun, 2024-11-24 at 10:55 +, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > FWIW: Evolution has multiple parts (try 'pgrep evolution' to see them). > Simply quitting the GUI will not shut it down. I'm sure you know this, > but if you really want to to stop it you should use 'evolution --force- > shutdown' from

Re: tip: Firefox -> File -> eMail link: Thunderbird is already running

2024-11-24 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sun, 2024-11-24 at 14:46 +1030, Tim via users wrote: > On Sat, 2024-11-23 at 19:35 +0100, Michael Schwendt wrote: > > The exact steps on how to reproduce it are missing. Simply installing > > thunderbird, then configuring GNOME Shell default apps to let thunderbird > >

Re: tip: Firefox -> File -> eMail link: Thunderbird is already running

2024-11-23 Thread Tim via users
On Sat, 2024-11-23 at 19:35 +0100, Michael Schwendt wrote: > The exact steps on how to reproduce it are missing. Simply installing > thunderbird, then configuring GNOME Shell default apps to let thunderbird > handle email doesn't suffice. The firefox menu opens a thunderbird > co

Re: tip: Firefox -> File -> eMail link: Thunderbird is already running

2024-11-23 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 11/23/24 10:35, Michael Schwendt wrote: On Sat, 23 Nov 2024 02:43:08 -0800, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: Hi All, Fedora 41 thunderbird-128.4.3-1.fc41.x86_64 firefox-132.0.1-2.fc41.x86_64 Since upgrading from Fedora 39 to Fedora 41, when I go into --> Firefox -> File -> eMai

Re: tip: Firefox -> File -> eMail link: Thunderbird is already running

2024-11-23 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 11/23/24 14:50, Stephen Morris wrote: On 24/11/24 05:35, Michael Schwendt wrote: On Sat, 23 Nov 2024 02:43:08 -0800, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: Hi All, Fedora 41 thunderbird-128.4.3-1.fc41.x86_64 firefox-132.0.1-2.fc41.x86_64 Since upgrading from Fedora 39 to Fedora 41, when I go into

Re: tip: Firefox -> File -> eMail link: Thunderbird is already running

2024-11-23 Thread Stephen Morris
On 24/11/24 05:35, Michael Schwendt wrote: On Sat, 23 Nov 2024 02:43:08 -0800, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: Hi All, Fedora 41 thunderbird-128.4.3-1.fc41.x86_64 firefox-132.0.1-2.fc41.x86_64 Since upgrading from Fedora 39 to Fedora 41, when I go into --> Firefox -> File -> eMai

Re: tip: Firefox -> File -> eMail link: Thunderbird is already running

2024-11-23 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Sat, 23 Nov 2024 02:43:08 -0800, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: > Hi All, > > Fedora 41 > thunderbird-128.4.3-1.fc41.x86_64 > firefox-132.0.1-2.fc41.x86_64 > > Since upgrading from Fedora 39 to Fedora 41, > when I go into > >--> Firefox -> File

tip: Firefox -> File -> eMail link: Thunderbird is already running

2024-11-23 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
Hi All, Fedora 41 thunderbird-128.4.3-1.fc41.x86_64 firefox-132.0.1-2.fc41.x86_64 Since upgrading from Fedora 39 to Fedora 41, when I go into --> Firefox -> File -> eMail link I get told that Thunderbird is already running, which it is. This is a regression bug that I reporte

Re: thunderbird junks new messages when folder is opened

2024-11-16 Thread Stephen Morris
iltering) where I can examine it and then quickly hide it (mark as read). My filter setup is the same and I have adaptive junk control active as well in both global Junk Settings and Account level settings. When previewing an email in the preview window I used to see a lot of messages about Thunder

Re: thunderbird junks new messages when folder is opened

2024-11-16 Thread fedora
tive as well in both global Junk Settings and Account level settings. When previewing an email in the preview window I used to see a lot of messages about Thunderbird thinking the email was spam (usually when the email source was an IP Address rather than a DNS name), but that seems to have disappea

Re: thunderbird junks new messages when folder is opened

2024-11-15 Thread fedora
On 16/11/24 10:32 am, Stephen Morris wrote: On 15/11/24 10:06, fed...@eyal.emu.id.au wrote: I'm using the daily version of Thunderbird with two email addresses and local folders, and the "Message Filters" interface provides the ability to input rules for both mailboxes and th

Re: thunderbird junks new messages when folder is opened

2024-11-15 Thread Stephen Morris
On 15/11/24 10:06, fed...@eyal.emu.id.au wrote: I'm using the daily version of Thunderbird with two email addresses and local folders, and the "Message Filters" interface provides the ability to input rules for both mailboxes and the local folders. I see it now. I use only on

Re: thunderbird junks new messages when folder is opened

2024-11-14 Thread fedora
later, when the folder is opened. Are the options for filter messages in *all* folders?  As opposed to just the inbox. I do not think that there are folder specific rules in tb. I'm using the daily version of Thunderbird with two email addresses and local folders, and the "Messa

Re: thunderbird junks new messages when folder is opened

2024-11-14 Thread Stephen Morris
options for filter messages in *all* folders?  As opposed to just the inbox. I do not think that there are folder specific rules in tb. I'm using the daily version of Thunderbird with two email addresses and local folders, and the "Message Filters" interface provides the ability

Re: thunderbird junks new messages when folder is opened

2024-11-13 Thread Tim via users
s which was check in all folders. Unchecked, it just did the inbox. It is possible that you seeing a delayed filtering affect (when you changed folders the message was there, but then disappeared before your eyes) might be the time it took Thunderbird to get around to filtering that message, or

Re: thunderbird junks new messages when folder is opened

2024-11-12 Thread fedora
opposed to just the inbox. I do not think that there are folder specific rules in tb. NB: I don't *use* Thunderbird, I occasionally look at it and had it installed on some PCs. I switch off junk mail filtering on my mail clients, it's a pain. Too many false positives and negatives

Re: thunderbird junks new messages when folder is opened

2024-11-04 Thread Tim via users
don't *use* Thunderbird, I occasionally look at it and had it installed on some PCs. I switch off junk mail filtering on my mail clients, it's a pain. Too many false positives and negatives. I don't want to lose real mail, I don't want to check a spam folder (if I'm ch

Re: thunderbird junks new messages when folder is opened

2024-11-04 Thread Andre Robatino
I didn't see a bug filed for the broken "Release notes" link so I just filed https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2323688 . -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject

Re: thunderbird junks new messages when folder is opened

2024-11-04 Thread Andre Robatino
> The following may be unrelated but is unusual. > I then checked the "About" version (for this report) and see > 128.3.2esr (64-bit) > [BTW: clicking the "Release notes" link gives "There's Nothing Here"...] > which surprised me, I do not recall installing the esr package, or is it the >

thunderbird junks new messages when folder is opened

2024-11-04 Thread fedora
, when the folder is opened. This is the case for a few folders and I do not see any parallels. Yet it does not happen always. I restarted thunderbird, in case it got into a "funny" state. The following may be unrelated but is unusual. I then checked the "About" version (for

Re: fedora upgrade to 6.9.5-200.fc40.x86_64: no /bin/thunderbird-wayland

2024-07-04 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 6/26/24 2:45 PM, richard emberson wrote: With fedora 6.8.8-300.fc40.x86_64 thunderbird packaged contained /bin/thunderbird-wayland. With fedora 6.9.5-200.fc40.x86_64 the thunderbird package 115.12.1 does not contain /bin/thunderbird-wayland dnf search thunderbird

Re: fedora upgrade to 6.9.5-200.fc40.x86_64: no /bin/thunderbird-wayland

2024-06-28 Thread George N. White III
On Wed, Jun 26, 2024 at 6:45 PM richard emberson wrote: > With fedora 6.8.8-300.fc40.x86_64 thunderbird packaged contained > /bin/thunderbird-wayland. > With fedora 6.9.5-200.fc40.x86_64 the thunderbird package 115.12.1 does > not contain /bin/thunderbird-wayland > > dnf

fedora upgrade to 6.9.5-200.fc40.x86_64: no /bin/thunderbird-wayland

2024-06-26 Thread richard emberson
With fedora 6.8.8-300.fc40.x86_64 thunderbird packaged contained /bin/thunderbird-wayland. With fedora 6.9.5-200.fc40.x86_64 the thunderbird package 115.12.1 does not contain /bin/thunderbird-wayland dnf search thunderbird === Name & Summary Matched: thu

Re: Thunderbird - Wayland / other apps

2024-06-17 Thread Stephen Morris
On 18/6/24 04:58, Michael Hennebry wrote: On Mon, 17 Jun 2024, Stephen Morris wrote: I'm not sure this is helpful, but it may be an attempt to emulate windows. I have a similar issue under Windows 10 where all apps, not relative to the screen saver, when minimised and subsequently maximised d

Re: Thunderbird - Wayland / other apps

2024-06-17 Thread Tim via users
On Mon, 2024-06-17 at 08:13 +1000, Stephen Morris wrote: > I'm not sure this is helpful, but it may be an attempt to emulate > windows. I have a similar issue under Windows 10 where all apps, not > relative to the screen saver, when minimised and subsequently > maximised display on the monitor conf

Re: Thunderbird - Wayland / other apps

2024-06-17 Thread Michael Hennebry
On Mon, 17 Jun 2024, Stephen Morris wrote: I'm not sure this is helpful, but it may be an attempt to emulate windows. I have a similar issue under Windows 10 where all apps, not relative to the screen saver, when minimised and subsequently maximised display on the monitor configured as the pri

Re: Thunderbird - Wayland / other apps

2024-06-16 Thread Stephen Morris
On 14/6/24 23:24, lejeczek via users wrote: Hi guys. I think it came with an update a few releases ago - Thunderbird no longer stays on the monitor it was on, prior to screen-saver. After screen-saver was invoked, Thunderbird goes onto the main monitor always - for those of us who have two

Thunderbird - Wayland / other apps

2024-06-14 Thread lejeczek via users
Hi guys. I think it came with an update a few releases ago - Thunderbird no longer stays on the monitor it was on, prior to screen-saver. After screen-saver was invoked, Thunderbird goes onto the main monitor always - for those of us who have two-monitor setup, needless to say. I wonder if

Re: Thunderbird Mystery

2024-02-27 Thread Tim via users
Tim: >> A program ought to be able to detect a stale lock file >> still remaining and handle it itself. Joe Zeff: > And how do you suggest that it detects it? Other programs manage it, dunno what's so magic about it. It's not a problem that *I* need to solve. After a reboot, cron &/or fetchmai

Re: Thunderbird Mystery

2024-02-27 Thread Joe Zeff
ime > lock file time, lock file is stale. Another way is to run thunderbird from a script with a name such as tbird to avoid confusion. That script can check to see if there's a copy of thunderbird running, and if not, delete the lock file. If there is, of cou

Re: Thunderbird Mystery

2024-02-27 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Tue, Feb 27, 2024 at 12:46 PM Joe Zeff wrote: > > On 02/27/2024 10:39 AM, Tim via users wrote: > > A program ought to be able to detect a stale lock file > > still remaining and handle it itself. > > And how do you suggest that it detects it? An in-memory semaphore. No lock file required. Jef

Re: Thunderbird Mystery

2024-02-27 Thread Go Canes
On Tue, Feb 27, 2024 at 12:45 PM Joe Zeff wrote: > > On 02/27/2024 10:39 AM, Tim via users wrote: > > A program ought to be able to detect a stale lock file > > still remaining and handle it itself. > > And how do you suggest that it detects it? I can think of 2 ways off the top of my head 1)

Re: Thunderbird Mystery

2024-02-27 Thread Joe Zeff
On 02/27/2024 10:39 AM, Tim via users wrote: A program ought to be able to detect a stale lock file still remaining and handle it itself. And how do you suggest that it detects it? -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscr

Re: Thunderbird Mystery

2024-02-27 Thread Tim via users
On Tue, 2024-02-27 at 11:19 -0500, Robert McBroom via users wrote: > Power failure is what left Thunderbird in a state. The lock was in the > ".thunderbird" tree as a link to a nonexistent file > "192.168.1.218:+7103".  Deleting the entry enabled Thunderbird to sta

Re: Thunderbird Mystery

2024-02-27 Thread Robert McBroom via users
On 2/27/24 10:12, Thomas Cameron wrote: On 2/27/24 09:08, Tim via users wrote: Is Thunderbird one of those apps that always runs once started, and never quits when you close the window? There have been times in the past where this is the case, but they're few and far between these days

Re: Thunderbird Mystery

2024-02-27 Thread Thomas Cameron
On 2/27/24 09:08, Tim via users wrote: Is Thunderbird one of those apps that always runs once started, and never quits when you close the window? There have been times in the past where this is the case, but they're few and far between these days. Not saying it doesn't happen, but

Re: Thunderbird Mystery

2024-02-27 Thread Tim via users
On Tue, 2024-02-27 at 08:54 -0600, Thomas Cameron wrote: > Every once in a while, Thunderbird just loses its mind. No idea why. But > I will generally just rename my ~/.thunderbird directory to something > like ~/.thunderbird.old and launch Thunderbird again. Is Thunderbird one of t

Re: Thunderbird Mystery

2024-02-27 Thread Thomas Cameron
On 2/26/24 19:44, Robert McBroom via users wrote: On one of my f39 systems Thundebird fails to start claiming that it is already running. "ksyguard" from root doesn't show anything I can recognize as having to do with Thunderbird. Rebooting does not get it to work. Looked at th

Re: Thunderbird Mystery

2024-02-26 Thread Joe Zeff
On 02/26/2024 06:44 PM, Robert McBroom via users wrote: On one of my f39 systems Thundebird fails to start claiming that it is already running. "ksyguard" from root doesn't show anything I can recognize as having to do with Thunderbird. Rebooting does not get it to work

Re: Thunderbird Mystery

2024-02-26 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Mon, Feb 26, 2024 at 8:45 PM Robert McBroom via users wrote: > > On one of my f39 systems Thundebird fails to start claiming that it is > already running. "ksyguard" from root doesn't show anything I can > recognize as having to do with Thunderbird. Rebooting does n

Thunderbird Mystery

2024-02-26 Thread Robert McBroom via users
On one of my f39 systems Thundebird fails to start claiming that it is already running. "ksyguard" from root doesn't show anything I can recognize as having to do with Thunderbird. Rebooting does not get it to work. Looked at the ".thunderbird" file in the user directo

F38 mouse hover over Thunderbird folders changed

2023-12-10 Thread Robert Moskowitz
For years, if I hovered the mouse over a folder, it would show me the subject of the most recent message. Now it is showing how many messages unread.  I can SEE that always displayed with the folder name... So what changed and how do I change things back? thanks -- _

Re: f38: 2 Thunderbird misbehaviors.

2023-12-06 Thread George N. White III
On Tue, Dec 5, 2023 at 9:45 PM home user wrote: > (Fedora 38; home workstation; Thunderbird 115.5.0) > > In early October, I upgraded from Fedora-37 to Fedora-38. Since then, > I've been consistently experiencing two types of misbehavior in Thunderbird. > > 1. When I sw

Re: f38: 2 Thunderbird misbehaviors.

2023-12-06 Thread home user
On 12/5/23 8:59 PM, home user wrote: On 12/5/23 7:39 PM, John Mellor wrote: On 2023-12-05 8:45 p.m., home user wrote: (Fedora 38; home workstation; Thunderbird 115.5.0) In early October, I upgraded from Fedora-37 to Fedora-38.  Since then, I've been consistently experiencing two typ

Re: f38: 2 Thunderbird misbehaviors.

2023-12-06 Thread Joe Zeff
On 12/06/2023 06:57 AM, John Mellor wrote: X is no longer maintained properly, and by F38 is no longer fully functional.  More functionality removal has happened in F39, and I believe that it is on the feature list of F40 for full removal. And what's going to happen to those of us using a DE t

Re: f38: 2 Thunderbird misbehaviors.

2023-12-06 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Wed, 2023-12-06 at 08:57 -0500, John Mellor wrote: > On 2023-12-05 22:59, home user wrote: > > . . . > > I almost always use Gnome with X, not wayland.  Even the test I > > reported in my previous post (in response to Richard) was KDE with > > X, > > not way

Re: f38: 2 Thunderbird misbehaviors.

2023-12-06 Thread John Mellor
On 2023-12-05 22:59, home user wrote: . . . I almost always use Gnome with X, not wayland.  Even the test I reported in my previous post (in response to Richard) was KDE with X, not wayland.  Should thunderbird-wayland be installed and used by us X users? X is no longer maintained properly

Re: f38: 2 Thunderbird misbehaviors.

2023-12-05 Thread home user
On 12/5/23 7:39 PM, John Mellor wrote: On 2023-12-05 8:45 p.m., home user wrote: (Fedora 38; home workstation; Thunderbird 115.5.0) In early October, I upgraded from Fedora-37 to Fedora-38.  Since then, I've been consistently experiencing two types of misbehavior in Thunderbird. 1. W

Re: f38: 2 Thunderbird misbehaviors.

2023-12-05 Thread home user
On 12/5/23 6:55 PM, Richard Kimberly Heck wrote: On 12/5/23 20:45, home user wrote: (Fedora 38; home workstation; Thunderbird 115.5.0) In early October, I upgraded from Fedora-37 to Fedora-38.  Since then, I've been consistently experiencing two types of misbehavior in Thunderbird. 1. W

Re: f38: 2 Thunderbird misbehaviors.

2023-12-05 Thread John Mellor
On 2023-12-05 8:45 p.m., home user wrote: (Fedora 38; home workstation; Thunderbird 115.5.0) In early October, I upgraded from Fedora-37 to Fedora-38.  Since then, I've been consistently experiencing two types of misbehavior in Thunderbird. 1. When I switch e-mail accounts or folders w

f38: 2 Thunderbird misbehaviors.

2023-12-05 Thread home user
(Fedora 38; home workstation; Thunderbird 115.5.0) In early October, I upgraded from Fedora-37 to Fedora-38.  Since then, I've been consistently experiencing two types of misbehavior in Thunderbird. 1. When I switch e-mail accounts or folders within an e-mail account, the list of mes

Re: thunderbird forgets location in a folder

2023-11-16 Thread David Timms
On 16/11/23 21:55, fed...@eyal.emu.id.au wrote: fc38 tb 115.4.1 I sort my mail into many folders, using message filters. When I select a folder, the list of messages is focused somewhere in the past, nowhere near the last item I opened (normally the latest). I have to scroll down to bring the

thunderbird forgets location in a folder

2023-11-16 Thread fedora
fc38 tb 115.4.1 I sort my mail into many folders, using message filters. When I select a folder, the list of messages is focused somewhere in the past, nowhere near the last item I opened (normally the latest). I have to scroll down to bring the message into view, and it is usually highlighted

Re: thunderbird: duplicated messages downloaded

2023-11-07 Thread Thomas Cameron via users
On 11/7/23 01:46, fed...@eyal.emu.id.au wrote: Though I do have imap available on my mail server if I ever want to use it. That's your answer, bud. POP is ancient and crufty, and as others have said, different mail servers do different, often weird, things to the messages. Switch to IMAP, i

Re: thunderbird: duplicated messages downloaded

2023-11-07 Thread fedora
On 07/11/2023 20.01, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 11/7/23 00:16, fed...@eyal.emu.id.au wrote: On 07/11/2023 18.52, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 11/6/23 23:48, fed...@eyal.emu.id.au wrote: What would be nice is to have the "Gem Messages" icon go inactive while a download is in progress. It will both indicat

Re: thunderbird: duplicated messages downloaded

2023-11-07 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 11/7/23 00:16, fed...@eyal.emu.id.au wrote: On 07/11/2023 18.52, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 11/6/23 23:48, fed...@eyal.emu.id.au wrote: What would be nice is to have the "Gem Messages" icon go inactive while a download is in progress. It will both indicate that the click took, and avoid a double

Re: thunderbird: duplicated messages downloaded

2023-11-07 Thread Tim via users
, and try it out without messing up your normal mail. > What would be nice is to have the "Gem Messages" icon go inactive > while a download is in progress. > It will both indicate that the click took, and avoid a double > download. I presume that's "get" messa

Re: thunderbird: duplicated messages downloaded

2023-11-07 Thread fedora
On 07/11/2023 18.52, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 11/6/23 23:48, fed...@eyal.emu.id.au wrote: What would be nice is to have the "Gem Messages" icon go inactive while a download is in progress. It will both indicate that the click took, and avoid a double download. Are you saying that while it's down

Re: thunderbird: duplicated messages downloaded

2023-11-06 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 11/6/23 23:48, fed...@eyal.emu.id.au wrote: What would be nice is to have the "Gem Messages" icon go inactive while a download is in progress. It will both indicate that the click took, and avoid a double download. Are you saying that while it's downloading, you click the button again, and

Re: thunderbird: duplicated messages downloaded

2023-11-06 Thread fedora
On 07/11/2023 16.34, Tim via users wrote: On Tue, 2023-11-07 at 10:17 +1100, fed...@eyal.emu.id.au wrote: The server is configured as pop3 with the option to leave the messages on the server. After clicking "Get Messages" I often get no reaction for a while, and click again in a few seconds. In

Re: thunderbird: duplicated messages downloaded

2023-11-06 Thread fedora
On 07/11/2023 16.34, Tim via users wrote: On Tue, 2023-11-07 at 10:17 +1100, fed...@eyal.emu.id.au wrote: The server is configured as pop3 with the option to leave the messages on the server. After clicking "Get Messages" I often get no reaction for a while, and click again in a few seconds. In

Re: thunderbird: duplicated messages downloaded

2023-11-06 Thread Tim via users
On Tue, 2023-11-07 at 10:17 +1100, fed...@eyal.emu.id.au wrote: > The server is configured as pop3 with the option to leave the > messages on the server. > > After clicking "Get Messages" I often get no reaction for a while, > and click again in a few seconds. > In this case, after the new message

Re: thunderbird: duplicated messages downloaded

2023-11-06 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 11/6/23 15:17, fed...@eyal.emu.id.au wrote: tb 115.3.2 My upgrade to 115 did not go smoothly. Swear words have not bee invented to properly express You should see the tears being shed over on alt.comp.software.thunderbird What were they thinking! 11.5.4 is in the repo now. Try

thunderbird: duplicated messages downloaded

2023-11-06 Thread fedora
[resend from correct email] F38, tb 115.3.2 (64-bit) The server is configured as pop3 with the option to leave the messages on the server. After clicking "Get Messages" I often get no reaction for a while, and click again in a few seconds. In this case, after the new messages are downloaded,

Re: Couple of Thunderbird pains

2023-10-03 Thread Stephen Morris
On 4/10/23 09:05, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 10/3/23 15:00, Stephen Morris wrote: On 4/10/23 03:33, Lester Petrie wrote: On 10/2/2023 8:01 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 10/2/23 16:32, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 10/2/23 14:13, Lester Petrie wrote: In my thunderbird, in settings/general the last group of

Re: Couple of Thunderbird pains

2023-10-03 Thread Stephen Morris
On 4/10/23 09:05, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 10/3/23 15:00, Stephen Morris wrote: On 4/10/23 03:33, Lester Petrie wrote: On 10/2/2023 8:01 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 10/2/23 16:32, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 10/2/23 14:13, Lester Petrie wrote: In my thunderbird, in settings/general the last group of

Re: Thunderbird 115 FC 38

2023-10-03 Thread Stephen Morris
what I saw between this reply and my signature.  It starts off with an error message, and the message has character encoding (and/or decoding) problems (I see a few =20 sequences in my reader). Same here. Also using Evolution. In Thunderbird V120, I see the same thing a Tim does from Adam's

Re: Thunderbird 115 FC 38

2023-10-03 Thread Stephen Morris
ature.  It starts off with an error message, and the message has character encoding (and/or decoding) problems (I see a few =20 sequences in my reader). Same here. Also using Evolution. In Thunderbird V120, I see the same thing a Tim does from Adam's emails except that Thunderbird doesn&#x

Re: Couple of Thunderbird pains

2023-10-03 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 10/3/23 15:00, Stephen Morris wrote: On 4/10/23 03:33, Lester Petrie wrote: On 10/2/2023 8:01 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 10/2/23 16:32, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 10/2/23 14:13, Lester Petrie wrote: In my thunderbird, in settings/general the last group of entries is Indexing. The second entry

Re: Couple of Thunderbird pains

2023-10-03 Thread Stephen Morris
On 4/10/23 03:33, Lester Petrie wrote: On 10/2/2023 8:01 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 10/2/23 16:32, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 10/2/23 14:13, Lester Petrie wrote: In my thunderbird, in settings/general the last group of entries is Indexing. The second entry is Message Store Type for new accounts

Re: Couple of Thunderbird pains

2023-10-03 Thread Stephen Morris
the list address. Is there a fix? Thunderbird keeps continually telling me it wants to compact the mails storage for what is a trivial amount of space, Is there a way to make it use a reasonable size to do the prompt? In Edit->Settings->General->Disk Space there is a check box to s

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