On Sat, 2014-11-01 at 09:14 -0500, Ranjan Maitra wrote:
> Ah! But you have poorly-written buggy software to buy for every little
> "feature" you could like and additional software to buy to iron out
> the wrinkles in there and additional software to buyt iron out the
> wrinkles in there and additio
Joe Zeff wrote:
On 10/28/2014 05:25 PM, jd1008 wrote:
As my time is not infinite :) I decided to install pclinuxos with kde DE
and bfs-PAE kernel. Yes, I will be spending some time, maybe 8 or 16 hours
bringing this lady up to speed on basic things. I will certainly automate
the updates, so she
jd1008 wrote:
On 10/28/2014 12:16 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
On 10/28/2014 07:04 PM, Steven Rosenberg wrote:
On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 10:58 AM, Joe Zeff wrote:
When I learned what Gnome 3 was going to be like, I started looking for a
different DE and ended up with Xfce. One of the minor th
Ed Greshko wrote:
On 10/28/14 11:37, jd1008 wrote:
Oooops!
I do not have your public key :) :)
So, it all looks like greek to me
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On Sat, 1 Nov 2014 16:20:18 +1030 Tim wrote:
> On Fri, 2014-10-31 at 12:52 -0400, Tom H wrote:
> > The “learning curve” is an exaggerated meme based on my SMALL sample.
> > I’ve migrated my parents from Windows to Gnome 2 to Unity and my
> > neighbor from Windows to Unity without them having a pr
Tim:
>> For some people, or lots of people, upgrading every 6 months is a
>> headache best avoided. Quite apart from having to backup and restore,
>> or backup and hope you don't have to restore, personal files and
>> important settings, you have to deal with a changed user interface. It
>> nearl
On Fri, 2014-10-31 at 12:52 -0400, Tom H wrote:
> The “learning curve” is an exaggerated meme based on my SMALL sample.
> I’ve migrated my parents from Windows to Gnome 2 to Unity and my
> neighbor from Windows to Unity without them having a problem finding
> their bearings.
I've always thought th
On Fri, Oct 31, 2014 at 10:23 AM, Tom H wrote:
> Judging from the hits that you get when you search for a problem,
> Ubuntu. Although you do get many Arch hits, which is unsurprising
> given how good its documentation is.
Could you image a Fedora Wiki as good as the Arch Wiki? That would be amazi
On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 2:26 AM, Tim wrote:
> On Mon, 2014-10-27 at 11:44 -0400, Tom H wrote:
>>
>> Why don't you install Fedora and put up with having to use an external
>> repo for non-free stuff (if necessary) and upgrading every 6 months or
>> so?
>
> For some people, or lots of people, upgrad
On Mon, Oct 27, 2014 at 12:39 PM, Bill Oliver wrote:
> On Mon, 27 Oct 2014, Tom H wrote:
>>
>> You seem to be asking for the impossible. Whether you install Fedora,
>> Ubuntu, OS X, or Windows, there are going to be regular updates.
>>
>> Why don't you install Fedora and put up with having to use
On 10/30/2014 12:17 AM, jd1008 wrote:
On 10/28/2014 07:47 PM, Doug wrote:
/snip/
When you develop an automatic update routine for PCLOS, it would be good if you
would post it, preferably on the PCLinuxOS Forum, or if not, then here, and
with your permission, I will pass it on to the Forum.
-
On 10/28/2014 07:04 PM, Steven Rosenberg wrote:
> +1 for Xfce
second that :-)
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On 10/28/2014 07:47 PM, Doug wrote:
On 10/28/2014 08:46 PM, Joe Zeff wrote:
On 10/28/2014 05:25 PM, jd1008 wrote:
As my time is not infinite :) I decided to install pclinuxos with
kde DE
and bfs-PAE kernel. Yes, I will be spending some time, maybe 8 or 16
hours
bringing this lady up to speed
On 10/28/2014 07:47 PM, Doug wrote:
On 10/28/2014 08:46 PM, Joe Zeff wrote:
On 10/28/2014 05:25 PM, jd1008 wrote:
As my time is not infinite :) I decided to install pclinuxos with
kde DE
and bfs-PAE kernel. Yes, I will be spending some time, maybe 8 or 16
hours
bringing this lady up to speed
On 10/28/2014 07:47 PM, Doug wrote:
On 10/28/2014 08:46 PM, Joe Zeff wrote:
On 10/28/2014 05:25 PM, jd1008 wrote:
As my time is not infinite :) I decided to install pclinuxos with
kde DE
and bfs-PAE kernel. Yes, I will be spending some time, maybe 8 or 16
hours
bringing this lady up to speed
On 10/28/2014 08:46 PM, Joe Zeff wrote:
On 10/28/2014 05:25 PM, jd1008 wrote:
As my time is not infinite :) I decided to install pclinuxos with kde DE
and bfs-PAE kernel. Yes, I will be spending some time, maybe 8 or 16 hours
bringing this lady up to speed on basic things. I will certainly autom
On 10/28/2014 05:25 PM, jd1008 wrote:
As my time is not infinite :) I decided to install pclinuxos with kde DE
and bfs-PAE kernel. Yes, I will be spending some time, maybe 8 or 16 hours
bringing this lady up to speed on basic things. I will certainly automate
the updates, so she will not have to
On Tue, 28 Oct 2014 18:25:06 -0600 jd1008 wrote:
>
> On 10/28/2014 06:09 PM, Roger wrote:
> > On 28/10/14 22:26, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
> >>
> >> On 10/23/2014 03:19 AM, Joe Zeff wrote:
> >>> On 10/22/2014 06:11 PM, jd1008 wrote:
>
> Any ideas what linux to use for such a person?
> >>
On 10/28/2014 06:09 PM, Roger wrote:
On 28/10/14 22:26, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
On 10/23/2014 03:19 AM, Joe Zeff wrote:
On 10/22/2014 06:11 PM, jd1008 wrote:
Any ideas what linux to use for such a person?
Isn't that what Ubuntu is for?
With Centos7, we are finally at a stable, long-term
On 28/10/14 22:26, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
On 10/23/2014 03:19 AM, Joe Zeff wrote:
On 10/22/2014 06:11 PM, jd1008 wrote:
Any ideas what linux to use for such a person?
Isn't that what Ubuntu is for?
With Centos7, we are finally at a stable, long-term usable OS of our
own. Given that it
On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 12:04 PM, jd1008 wrote:
> So, between xfce and lxde, which one consumes less ram?
Offhand I'd say LXDE is lighter than Xfce.
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On 10/28/2014 12:16 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
On 10/28/2014 07:04 PM, Steven Rosenberg wrote:
On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 10:58 AM, Joe Zeff wrote:
When I learned what Gnome 3 was going to be like, I started looking
for a
different DE and ended up with Xfce. One of the minor things I like
ab
On 10/28/2014 11:16 AM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
So I am more using Xfce and might even do my F21 beta on a notebook with
it as well. Skip gnome all together on the next upgrade.
Make sure that you're using lightdm instead of gdm, because the latter
pulls in some odd dependencies, or at least
On 10/28/2014 07:04 PM, Steven Rosenberg wrote:
On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 10:58 AM, Joe Zeff wrote:
When I learned what Gnome 3 was going to be like, I started looking for a
different DE and ended up with Xfce. One of the minor things I like about
it is that you can configure it so that a right
On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 10:58 AM, Joe Zeff wrote:
> When I learned what Gnome 3 was going to be like, I started looking for a
> different DE and ended up with Xfce. One of the minor things I like about
> it is that you can configure it so that a right-click anywhere on the
> desktop brings up you
On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 10:44 AM, Marcus Karlsson wrote:
> New kernel features and driver updates are backported in each minor
> release. That the kernel identifies itself as 3.10 is essentially just
> to mark where Red Hat forked it. Don't be surprised if 7.1 or 7.2 works
> much better on your ha
On 10/28/2014 04:26 AM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
I personally am looking very hard at xfce instead of gnome.
When I learned what Gnome 3 was going to be like, I started looking for
a different DE and ended up with Xfce. One of the minor things I like
about it is that you can configure it so t
On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 10:12:19AM -0700, Steven Rosenberg wrote:
> CentOS 7 uses a 3.10 kernel, and my 1.5-year-old AMD laptop is not
> terribly happy with it, especially compared with 3.16 in Fedora. If
> I'm going to muck around and always follow the latest kernel, I might
> as well stick with d
CentOS 7 uses a 3.10 kernel, and my 1.5-year-old AMD laptop is not
terribly happy with it, especially compared with 3.16 in Fedora. If
I'm going to muck around and always follow the latest kernel, I might
as well stick with distros that offer 3.16+ out of the box.
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On 10/28/2014 05:26 AM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
On 10/23/2014 03:19 AM, Joe Zeff wrote:
On 10/22/2014 06:11 PM, jd1008 wrote:
Any ideas what linux to use for such a person?
Isn't that what Ubuntu is for?
With Centos7, we are finally at a stable, long-term usable OS of our
own. Given th
On Tue, 28 Oct 2014, Tim wrote:
On Mon, 2014-10-27 at 11:44 -0400, Tom H wrote:
Why don't you install Fedora and put up with having to use an external
repo for non-free stuff (if necessary) and upgrading every 6 months or
so?
For some people, or lots of people, upgrading every 6 months is a
h
On 10/23/2014 03:19 AM, Joe Zeff wrote:
On 10/22/2014 06:11 PM, jd1008 wrote:
Any ideas what linux to use for such a person?
Isn't that what Ubuntu is for?
With Centos7, we are finally at a stable, long-term usable OS of our
own. Given that it is built on F19, it has support for lots of
On 28/10/14 18:54, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
On 10/28/2014 07:26 AM, Tim wrote:
If a new user is going to ask a support question of someone, or their
ISP, which Linux distro do you think they're most likely to get an
answer about?
That one "you" are best familiar with? I mean, if you installed th
On 10/28/2014 07:26 AM, Tim wrote:
If a new user is going to ask a support question of someone, or their
ISP, which Linux distro do you think they're most likely to get an
answer about?
That one "you" are best familiar with? I mean, if you installed the
OS/distro for a user, this user's first
On 28/10/14 17:33, Tim wrote:
On Tue, 2014-10-28 at 12:06 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote:
Sent in error from my tablet courtesy of Mei-Mei.a cat.
Better check it hasn't sneakily ordered tons of cat food to be
delivered... ;-)
Get a big hairy dog to sit on your lap, cat thingy will never happen
On Tue, 2014-10-28 at 12:06 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote:
> Sent in error from my tablet courtesy of Mei-Mei.a cat.
Better check it hasn't sneakily ordered tons of cat food to be
delivered... ;-)
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On Tue, 2014-10-28 at 05:16 +0100, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
> Windows also only tries update itself, but doesn't take care about
> updating packages from other sources. In most cases, users will have
> to resort to using package proprietary updaters which may or may not
> work, but always will requir
On Mon, 2014-10-27 at 11:44 -0400, Tom H wrote:
> Why don't you install Fedora and put up with having to use an external
> repo for non-free stuff (if necessary) and upgrading every 6 months or
> so?
For some people, or lots of people, upgrading every 6 months is a
headache best avoided. Quite ap
On Oct 23, 2014 6:42 AM, "jd1008" wrote:
>
> Have a friend who wants to try getting away from windows, which,
> in spite of all the AV software the vendor had installed on her
> windows 7, it was plagued by viruses that rendered it unusable.
>
> So, since she is not technically savvy, I was thinki
On 10/28/2014 01:13 AM, Sudhir Khanger wrote:
On Monday, October 27, 2014 10:07:08 PM jd1008 wrote:
Thank you Sudhir.
I will be first installing PCLinuxOS, with bfs-PAE kernel
(kde desktop) and let her play with that for a while.
If she feels it is easy to "step up to" from Windows, then
that's
On Monday, October 27, 2014 10:07:08 PM jd1008 wrote:
> Thank you Sudhir.
> I will be first installing PCLinuxOS, with bfs-PAE kernel
> (kde desktop) and let her play with that for a while.
> If she feels it is easy to "step up to" from Windows, then
> that's what she will get on her desktop.
> If
On 10/28/2014 03:41 AM, jd1008 wrote:
The lady I am trying to help does not even want to have to do
any updates. She wants it all so atutomatic, that once I configure
her network, and her desktop icons, she wants the installation to
maintain itself.
In a lot of ways, windoze does this for their
On 10/27/2014 09:46 PM, Sudhir Khanger wrote:
On Monday, October 27, 2014 08:41:03 PM jd1008 wrote:
The lady I am trying to help does not even want to have to do
any updates. She wants it all so atutomatic, that once I configure
her network, and her desktop icons, she wants the installation to
On 10/28/14 11:37, jd1008 wrote:
> Oooops!
> I do not have your public key :) :)
> So, it all looks like greek to me
Sent in error from my tablet courtesy of Mei-Mei.a cat.
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On Monday, October 27, 2014 08:41:03 PM jd1008 wrote:
> The lady I am trying to help does not even want to have to do
> any updates. She wants it all so atutomatic, that once I configure
> her network, and her desktop icons, she wants the installation to
> maintain itself.
Ubuntu is your best choi
On 10/27/2014 09:14 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
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On 10/27/2014 10:41 PM, jd1008 wrote:
On 10/27/2014 11:17 AM, Steven Rosenberg wrote:
Fedup has been working very well for me over the F18-20 period, and
that relative easy of use has kept me running Fedora for the past year
and a half.
I don't know if this is something on the Fedora roadmap,
On 28.10.2014 03:41, jd1008 wrote:
>
> On 10/27/2014 11:17 AM, Steven Rosenberg wrote:
>> Fedup has been working very well for me over the F18-20 period, and
>> that relative easy of use has kept me running Fedora for the past year
>> and a half.
>>
>> I don't know if this is something on the Fedo
On 10/27/2014 11:17 AM, Steven Rosenberg wrote:
Fedup has been working very well for me over the F18-20 period, and
that relative easy of use has kept me running Fedora for the past year
and a half.
I don't know if this is something on the Fedora roadmap, but a
graphical version of Fedup would
Fedup has been working very well for me over the F18-20 period, and
that relative easy of use has kept me running Fedora for the past year
and a half.
I don't know if this is something on the Fedora roadmap, but a
graphical version of Fedup would go a long way toward making many
users more comfort
On Mon, 27 Oct 2014, Tom H wrote:
On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 2:24 PM, jd1008 wrote:
On 10/23/2014 12:46 AM, Tim wrote:
On Wed, 2014-10-22 at 19:11 -0600, jd1008 wrote:
Any ideas what linux to use for such a person?
Along with other suggestions, consider the support aspect. If they
can't do i
On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 2:24 PM, jd1008 wrote:
> On 10/23/2014 12:46 AM, Tim wrote:
>> On Wed, 2014-10-22 at 19:11 -0600, jd1008 wrote:
>>>
>>> Any ideas what linux to use for such a person?
>>
>> Along with other suggestions, consider the support aspect. If they
>> can't do it themselves, it's go
On 10/23/2014 10:13 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
On 10/24/14 11:58, jd1008 wrote:
On 10/23/2014 09:11 PM, Kevin Cummings wrote:
on 10/23/2014 03:10 PM, jd1008 wrote:
With 8 gig of RAM, the 32 bit version will only make use of the first 4GB.
So, I am still debating whether to install the 32 bit or t
On 24.10.2014 05:52, Tim wrote:
> Allegedly, on or about 23 October 2014, jd1008 sent:
>> Libreoffice can create PDF?
>
> Yes, it can. And you can install a PDF printer, if it isn't already
> installed, so that *any* application can print a PDF. However...
>
> You get very little control over h
On 10/24/14 17:02, Ian Malone wrote:
> On 23 October 2014 22:40, Michael Cronenworth wrote:
>> On 10/23/2014 12:40 PM, Fred Smith wrote:
>>> but there are (some) 686 libs for those common 32-bit apps that need 'em.
>>> Look at "yum list available | less" then search for "[356]86".
>>
>> There is a
On 23 October 2014 22:40, Michael Cronenworth wrote:
> On 10/23/2014 12:40 PM, Fred Smith wrote:
>>
>> but there are (some) 686 libs for those common 32-bit apps that need 'em.
>> Look at "yum list available | less" then search for "[356]86".
>
>
> There is a barebones set of 32-bit binary librari
On 10/24/14 11:58, jd1008 wrote:
>
> On 10/23/2014 09:11 PM, Kevin Cummings wrote:
>> on 10/23/2014 03:10 PM, jd1008 wrote:
>>
>>> With 8 gig of RAM, the 32 bit version will only make use of the first 4GB.
>>> So, I am still debating whether to install the 32 bit or the 64 bit.
>> Unless you are ru
On 10/23/2014 09:11 PM, Kevin Cummings wrote:
on 10/23/2014 03:10 PM, jd1008 wrote:
With 8 gig of RAM, the 32 bit version will only make use of the first 4GB.
So, I am still debating whether to install the 32 bit or the 64 bit.
Unless you are running a 32-bit PAE kernel which can address more
Allegedly, on or about 23 October 2014, jd1008 sent:
> Libreoffice can create PDF?
Yes, it can. And you can install a PDF printer, if it isn't already
installed, so that *any* application can print a PDF. However...
You get very little control over how they're created, so your quest for
a fully
Joe Zeff:
>> As you can see here,
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portable_Document_Format it's an open
>> format.
Tom Horsley:
> Which is a good thing because most 3rd party viewers render
> pdf files faster and more accurately than the official
> acrobat reader software from adobe :-).
Nor a
on 10/23/2014 03:10 PM, jd1008 wrote:
> With 8 gig of RAM, the 32 bit version will only make use of the first 4GB.
> So, I am still debating whether to install the 32 bit or the 64 bit.
Unless you are running a 32-bit PAE kernel which can address more than
4GB of RAM
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On 10/23/2014 12:40 PM, Fred Smith wrote:
but there are (some) 686 libs for those common 32-bit apps that need 'em.
Look at "yum list available | less" then search for "[356]86".
There is a barebones set of 32-bit binary libraries. No development packages.
Calling this an environment is dubiou
Tom Horsley wrote:
On Thu, 23 Oct 2014 11:53:42 +0300
Gilboa Davara wrote:
I'd personally go with CentOS 7.0 (if all the required software is
there) or Ubuntu 14.04 LTS.
Or if you find the horror that is the Ubuntu Unity interface too
much to bear, Linux Mint is essentially Ubuntu with a diff
Tom Horsley wrote:
On Thu, 23 Oct 2014 12:35:58 -0500
Michael Cronenworth wrote:
There is no 32-bit environment. This is a feature of RHEL 7.
https://access.redhat.com/solutions/509373
Do you need additional proof?
That article explicitly says they will continue to support
32 bit libraries,
On 10/23/2014 12:57 PM, Pete Travis wrote:
At first, there were a lot of "How do I do this thing I don't already
know how to do" questions. I had to set up the machine with flash and
rpmfusion codecs for her. With that out of the way, 'support requests'
are rare; it just works.
My older sist
On 10/23/2014 12:37 PM, jd1008 wrote:
>
> On 10/23/2014 11:35 AM, Michael Cronenworth wrote:
>> On 10/23/2014 11:55 AM, Steven Rosenberg wrote:
>>> There are i586 Skype packages for CentOS 7 in the Nux repo:
>>>
http://li.nux.ro/download/nux/dextop/el7/x86_64/skype-4.2.0.13-1.R.i586.rpm
>>>
andhttp
On Thu, 23 Oct 2014 12:32:43 -0700
Joe Zeff wrote:
> As you can see here,
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portable_Document_Format it's an open format.
Which is a good thing because most 3rd party viewers render
pdf files faster and more accurately than the official
acrobat reader software from
On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 01:13:09PM -0600, jd1008 wrote:
>
> On 10/23/2014 12:46 PM, Joe Zeff wrote:
> >On 10/23/2014 11:37 AM, jd1008 wrote:
> >>>
> >>The primary apps she will need on a linux installation are a high
> >>quality (and full functionality)
> >>of a pdf reader/creator.
> >
> >There ar
On 10/23/2014 12:13 PM, jd1008 wrote:
Libreoffice can create PDF? Rightly or wrongly, I have been under the
impression
that the pdf format was copyright'ed by Adobe???
As you can see here,
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portable_Document_Format it's an open format.
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On 10/23/2014 12:46 PM, Joe Zeff wrote:
On 10/23/2014 11:37 AM, jd1008 wrote:
The primary apps she will need on a linux installation are a high
quality (and full functionality)
of a pdf reader/creator.
There are several .pdf readers that come with most Linux distros. I'm
almost certain tha
On 10/23/2014 12:47 PM, Doug wrote:
On 10/23/2014 02:37 PM, jd1008 wrote:
On 10/23/2014 11:35 AM, Michael Cronenworth wrote:
On 10/23/2014 11:55 AM, Steven Rosenberg wrote:
There are i586 Skype packages for CentOS 7 in the Nux repo:
http://li.nux.ro/download/nux/dextop/el7/x86_64/skype-4.2.0
On 10/23/2014 02:37 PM, jd1008 wrote:
On 10/23/2014 11:35 AM, Michael Cronenworth wrote:
On 10/23/2014 11:55 AM, Steven Rosenberg wrote:
There are i586 Skype packages for CentOS 7 in the Nux repo:
http://li.nux.ro/download/nux/dextop/el7/x86_64/skype-4.2.0.13-1.R.i586.rpm
andhttp://li.nux.ro/d
On 10/23/2014 11:37 AM, jd1008 wrote:
The primary apps she will need on a linux installation are a high
quality (and full functionality)
of a pdf reader/creator.
There are several .pdf readers that come with most Linux distros. I'm
almost certain that LibreOffice can create them, but if tha
On 10/23/2014 11:35 AM, Michael Cronenworth wrote:
On 10/23/2014 11:55 AM, Steven Rosenberg wrote:
There are i586 Skype packages for CentOS 7 in the Nux repo:
http://li.nux.ro/download/nux/dextop/el7/x86_64/skype-4.2.0.13-1.R.i586.rpm
andhttp://li.nux.ro/download/nux/dextop/el7/x86_64/skype-4
On 10/23/2014 11:08 AM, Doug wrote:
On 10/23/2014 08:25 AM, Tom Horsley wrote:
On Thu, 23 Oct 2014 11:53:42 +0300
Gilboa Davara wrote:
I'd personally go with CentOS 7.0 (if all the required software is
there) or Ubuntu 14.04 LTS.
Or if you find the horror that is the Ubuntu Unity interface
On 10/23/2014 10:30 AM, Steven Rosenberg wrote:
On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 1:53 AM, Gilboa Davara wrote:
I'd personally go with CentOS 7.0 (if all the required software is
there) or Ubuntu 14.04 LTS.
CentOS will most likely out-live Windows 7 and maintains a very strict
update policy (you'll have
On 10/23/2014 12:46 AM, Tim wrote:
On Wed, 2014-10-22 at 19:11 -0600, jd1008 wrote:
Any ideas what linux to use for such a person?
Along with other suggestions, consider the support aspect. If they
can't do it themselves, it's going to be you. Which distro can you put
up with? Either workin
On 10/23/2014 12:33 AM, ny6...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 09:39:17PM -0400, Doug wrote:
On 10/22/2014 09:11 PM, jd1008 wrote:
Have a friend who wants to try getting away from windows, which,
in spite of all the AV software the vendor had installed on her
windows 7, it was plagued
On Thu, 23 Oct 2014 12:35:58 -0500
Michael Cronenworth wrote:
> There is no 32-bit environment. This is a feature of RHEL 7.
>
> https://access.redhat.com/solutions/509373
>
> Do you need additional proof?
That article explicitly says they will continue to support
32 bit libraries, they just ar
On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 12:35:58PM -0500, Michael Cronenworth wrote:
> On 10/23/2014 11:55 AM, Steven Rosenberg wrote:
> >There are i586 Skype packages for CentOS 7 in the Nux repo:
> >http://li.nux.ro/download/nux/dextop/el7/x86_64/skype-4.2.0.13-1.R.i586.rpm
> >andhttp://li.nux.ro/download/nux/de
Just to add my tuppence worth.
If it's purely viruses that are the problem then, as mentioned in
another post, you can't beat a little education on browsing habits,
combined with a damn good AV package.
If there are other reasons for switching (e.g. that Windoze quickly gets
bloated and
On 10/23/2014 11:55 AM, Steven Rosenberg wrote:
There are i586 Skype packages for CentOS 7 in the Nux repo:
http://li.nux.ro/download/nux/dextop/el7/x86_64/skype-4.2.0.13-1.R.i586.rpm
andhttp://li.nux.ro/download/nux/dextop/el7/x86_64/skype-4.3.0.37-2.R.i586.rpm
They provide the 32-bit librarie
On 10/23/2014 08:25 AM, Tom Horsley wrote:
On Thu, 23 Oct 2014 11:53:42 +0300
Gilboa Davara wrote:
I'd personally go with CentOS 7.0 (if all the required software is
there) or Ubuntu 14.04 LTS.
Or if you find the horror that is the Ubuntu Unity interface too
much to bear, Linux Mint is essent
On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 9:36 AM, Michael Cronenworth wrote:
> The only problem you'll have with CentOS (or RHEL) 7 will be the lack of a
> 32-bit environment. If you need to run any Win32 or proprietary 32-bit apps
> (Skype) you're SOL.
There are i586 Skype packages for CentOS 7 in the Nux repo:
On 10/23/2014 11:30 AM, Steven Rosenberg wrote:
I'm also thinking about CentOS in this use case. It's still a bit
early for CentOS 7 in terms of both stability and extra repos, but
if/when I use CentOS in this manner, I will be using the El Repo and
the Nux Dextop repos --http://li.nux.ro/repos.h
On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 1:53 AM, Gilboa Davara wrote:
> I'd personally go with CentOS 7.0 (if all the required software is
> there) or Ubuntu 14.04 LTS.
> CentOS will most likely out-live Windows 7 and maintains a very strict
> update policy (you'll have to work hard to break it) and once
> instal
On Thu, 23 Oct 2014 11:53:42 +0300
Gilboa Davara wrote:
> I'd personally go with CentOS 7.0 (if all the required software is
> there) or Ubuntu 14.04 LTS.
Or if you find the horror that is the Ubuntu Unity interface too
much to bear, Linux Mint is essentially Ubuntu with a different
UI plugged in
On 23 October 2014 02:11, jd1008 wrote:
> Have a friend who wants to try getting away from windows, which,
> in spite of all the AV software the vendor had installed on her
> windows 7, it was plagued by viruses that rendered it unusable.
>
> So, since she is not technically savvy, I was thinking
On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 4:11 AM, jd1008 wrote:
> Have a friend who wants to try getting away from windows, which,
> in spite of all the AV software the vendor had installed on her
> windows 7, it was plagued by viruses that rendered it unusable.
>
> So, since she is not technically savvy, I was th
Instead of replying with one's own favourite distro,
The answer should be (as to be expected), "that depends on "
a) Which distro has all the software that she needs?
there might be distro's that are very user friendly install/maintenance, but if
essential software is missing and has to be do
On Wed, 2014-10-22 at 19:11 -0600, jd1008 wrote:
> Any ideas what linux to use for such a person?
Along with other suggestions, consider the support aspect. If they
can't do it themselves, it's going to be you. Which distro can you put
up with? Either working it for yourself, or finding a suppo
On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 09:39:17PM -0400, Doug wrote:
>
> On 10/22/2014 09:11 PM, jd1008 wrote:
> > Have a friend who wants to try getting away from windows, which,
> > in spite of all the AV software the vendor had installed on her
> > windows 7, it was plagued by viruses that rendered it unusabl
Any ideas what linux to use for such a person?
Isn't that what Ubuntu is for?
I do not know as I have only installed it once for someone
but have no idea about it's maintenance requirements.
I recomend Ubuntu 14.04 it is very easy and has a 7 year life span.
It's a one stop install from usb
On 10/22/2014 07:39 PM, Doug wrote:
On 10/22/2014 09:11 PM, jd1008 wrote:
Have a friend who wants to try getting away from windows, which,
in spite of all the AV software the vendor had installed on her
windows 7, it was plagued by viruses that rendered it unusable.
So, since she is not techn
On 10/22/2014 09:11 PM, jd1008 wrote:
Have a friend who wants to try getting away from windows, which,
in spite of all the AV software the vendor had installed on her
windows 7, it was plagued by viruses that rendered it unusable.
So, since she is not technically savvy, I was thinking of findin
On 10/22/2014 07:19 PM, Joe Zeff wrote:
On 10/22/2014 06:11 PM, jd1008 wrote:
Any ideas what linux to use for such a person?
Isn't that what Ubuntu is for?
I do not know as I have only installed it once for someone
but have no idea about it's maintenance requirements.
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On 10/22/2014 06:11 PM, jd1008 wrote:
Any ideas what linux to use for such a person?
Isn't that what Ubuntu is for?
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