Re: Help configuring internal network

2022-03-25 Thread Michael Hennebry
It seems I badly misnterpreted the verb "to give". -- Michael henne...@web.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu "Sorry but your password must contain an uppercase letter, a number, a haiku, a gang sign, a heiroglyph, and the blood of a virgin." -- some

Re: Help configuring internal network

2022-03-25 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 3/25/22 00:48, Tim via users wrote: R. G. Newbury: edit your /etc/hosts file to give the hdhomerun unit a fixed IP address. Tim When has the /etc/hosts file ever given anything an IP address? R. G. Newbury You are correct, and I am completely wrong. A static address for the computer wo

Re: Help configuring internal network

2022-03-25 Thread Tim via users
R. G. Newbury: > edit your /etc/hosts file to give the hdhomerun unit a fixed IP > address. Tim >>> When has the /etc/hosts file ever given anything an IP address? R. G. Newbury >>> You are correct, and I am completely wrong. A static address for >>> the computer would be set by editing

Re: Help configuring internal network

2022-03-24 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 3/24/22 20:34, Michael Hennebry wrote: On Sun, 20 Mar 2022, R. G. Newbury wrote: On 2022-03-20 8:00 a.m., Tim >R. G. Newbury wrote: edit your /etc/hosts file to give the hdhomerun unit a fixed IP address. When has the /etc/hosts file ever given anything an IP address? You are correct, an

Re: Help configuring internal network

2022-03-24 Thread Michael Hennebry
On Sun, 20 Mar 2022, R. G. Newbury wrote: On 2022-03-20 8:00 a.m., Tim >R. G. Newbury wrote: edit your /etc/hosts file to give the hdhomerun unit a fixed IP address. When has the /etc/hosts file ever given anything an IP address? You are correct, and I am completely wrong. A static address f

Re: Help configuring internal network

2022-03-22 Thread Bob Marcan
On Tue, 22 Mar 2022 00:34:55 -0600 Robin Laing wrote: > In my network, devices are assigned DHCP IP address according to their MAC > address. My wireless access point uses mac filtering. > > With DHCP being assigned via MAC address, then they get a static IP address > fixed to that device. T

Re: Help configuring internal network

2022-03-22 Thread Tim via users
On Tue, 2022-03-22 at 00:34 -0600, Robin Laing wrote: > In my network, devices are assigned DHCP IP address according to > their MAC address. Mine too, virtually all DHCP servers do (even if not providing fixed static addresses, but just nearly always giving the same addresses), that's always been

Re: Help configuring internal network

2022-03-21 Thread Robin Laing
On 2022-03-20 12:50, Tim via users wrote: On Sun, 2022-03-20 at 12:13 -0400, R. G. Newbury wrote: 'Configuring the DHCP server to work that way', is to set it to deliver a static address. With a dhcp server, the problem is that any change in the network, or the items connecting to it, can cause

Re: Help configuring internal network

2022-03-20 Thread Tim via users
Tim wrote: >> If you want a predictable LAN, then I really only see two ways to >> manage that without major pain: >> >> 1. Run a DHCP server with a DNS server... >> 2. Manually configure each device to have a fixed IP. R. G. Newbury: > I think you left out a third method, which uses part of your

Re: Help configuring internal network

2022-03-20 Thread Tim via users
On Sun, 2022-03-20 at 12:13 -0400, R. G. Newbury wrote: > 'Configuring the DHCP server to work that way', is to set it to > deliver a static address. With a dhcp server, the problem is that any > change in the network, or the items connecting to it, can cause the > dhcp server to deliver a differen

Re: Help configuring internal network

2022-03-20 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 3/20/22 07:10, Tim via users wrote: Some of those protocols can have a look inside their own hosts file to find the answer (if they have one). However, that's going to go wrong if the devices don't get the same IP each time. Apparently mDNS can somehow get answers from a DHCP server. I'm no

Re: Help configuring internal network

2022-03-20 Thread R. G. Newbury
On 2022-03-20 10:11 a.m., Tim wrote: If you want a predictable LAN, then I really only see two ways to manage that without major pain: 1. Run a DHCP server with a DNS server... 2. Manually configure each device to have a fixed IP. I think you left out a third method, which uses part of your

Re: Help configuring internal network

2022-03-20 Thread R. G. Newbury
On 2022-03-20 8:00 a.m., Tim wrote R. G. Newbury wrote: Controlling an hdhr with a dhcp served IP address is basically impossible as it is hard to find that address and remember it for use in your program. Control of the unit with most digital tv programs requires a static IP address. Mythtv for

Re: Help configuring internal network

2022-03-20 Thread R. G. Newbury
On 2022-03-20 8:00 a.m., Tim >R. G. Newbury wrote: edit your /etc/hosts file to give the hdhomerun unit a fixed IP address. When has the /etc/hosts file ever given anything an IP address? You are correct, and I am completely wrong. A static address for the computer would be set by editing /e

Re: Help configuring internal network

2022-03-20 Thread Tim via users
On Sun, 2022-03-20 at 13:08 +, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > I think Tim's point is that the /etc/hosts file doesn't *assign* IP > addresses, it merely *records* them. Yep. In a nutshell, if you haven't manually configured your PC (or other device) to use a specific IP address, your PC gets gi

Re: Help configuring internal network

2022-03-20 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sun, 2022-03-20 at 08:50 -0400, Jonathan Billings wrote: > On Mar 20, 2022, at 04:17, Tim via users > wrote: > > > > When has the /etc/hosts file ever given anything an IP address? > > I don’t know the exact details of this particular problem, but if you > install the “dnsmasq” package, it in

Re: Help configuring internal network

2022-03-20 Thread Jonathan Billings
On Mar 20, 2022, at 04:17, Tim via users wrote: > > When has the /etc/hosts file ever given anything an IP address? I don’t know the exact details of this particular problem, but if you install the “dnsmasq” package, it includes dns and dhcp service, and by default it parses /etc/hosts and use

Re: Help configuring internal network

2022-03-20 Thread Tim via users
On Sun, 2022-03-20 at 00:01 -0400, R. G. Newbury wrote: > Controlling an hdhr with a dhcp served IP address is basically > impossible as it is hard to find that address and remember it for use > in your program. Control of the unit with most digital tv programs > requires a static IP address. Myth

Re: Help configuring internal network

2022-03-20 Thread Tim via users
On Sat, 2022-03-19 at 23:44 -0400, R. G. Newbury wrote: > edit your /etc/hosts file to give the hdhomerun unit a fixed IP > address. When has the /etc/hosts file ever given anything an IP address? -- uname -rsvp Linux 3.10.0-1160.59.1.el7.x86_64 #1 SMP Wed Feb 23 16:47:03 UTC 2022 x86_64 Bo

Re: Help configuring internal network

2022-03-19 Thread R. G. Newbury
Geoffrey Leach wrote: It will take me a while to try to understand the output from your suggestions. In the meantime, yes, it is a direct cable to the hdhomerun. Then you will have to set a static IP address in your /etc/hosts file. There is some sort of NETGEAT unit listed in your output.

Re: Help configuring internal network

2022-03-19 Thread R. G. Newbury
On 2022-03-19 7:46 p.m., Geoffrey Leach wrote F35, fresh install. I have an ethernet-connected device (HDHomerun, fwiw) newly re-compiled on the newly-installed F35 xfce4 workstation. As far as I can tell from trying every network analysis I can find, the connection is good (exception, no respon

Re: Help configuring internal network

2022-03-19 Thread Geoffrey Leach
Yes, it has worked on Fedora 32. The hardware is unchanged. I'll need to verify the dhcp server On Sat, 19 Mar 2022 18:09:30 -0700 Samuel Sieb wrote: > On 3/19/22 17:41, Geoffrey Leach wrote: > > It will take me a while to try to understand the output from your > > suggestions. > > > > In the m

Re: Help configuring internal network

2022-03-19 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 3/19/22 17:41, Geoffrey Leach wrote: It will take me a while to try to understand the output from your suggestions. In the meantime, yes, it is a direct cable to the hdhomerun. The simple answer is that won't work. Has this ever worked? You either need a dhcp server on your computer to p

Re: Help configuring internal network

2022-03-19 Thread Geoffrey Leach
It will take me a while to try to understand the output from your suggestions. In the meantime, yes, it is a direct cable to the hdhomerun. On Sat, Mar 19, 2022 at 4:54 PM Roger Heflin wrote: > I am pretty sure the hdhomerun usually needs a dhcp server to get an ip > address. there may be some

Re: Help configuring internal network

2022-03-19 Thread Roger Heflin
I am pretty sure the hdhomerun usually needs a dhcp server to get an ip address. there may be some default ip address. I don't see that my hdhomeruns have a way to set an ip address. If there is a default ip address then both the adapter and the hdhome run need to be in the same subnet, and netw

Re: Help configuring internal network

2022-03-19 Thread Roger Heflin
ethtool -i eno1 ethtool eno1 will tell you what the connection status is. dmesg| grep -i eno1 will give you the init messages for the card. On Sat, Mar 19, 2022 at 6:19 PM Geoffrey Leach wrote: > F35, fresh install. I have an ethernet-connected device (HDHomerun, fwiw) > newly re-compiled on

Re: Help configuring internal network

2022-03-19 Thread Geoffrey Leach
There is only one computer involved HDHomerun is a box that converts OTA TV channels (i.e., a tuner) to a feed that is accessed by the local system. What is working? the code that accesses the ethernet feed, as far as I can tell What isn't working? The connection between the local computer and t

Re: Help configuring internal network

2022-03-19 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 3/19/22 16:18, Geoffrey Leach wrote: F35, fresh install. I have an ethernet-connected device (HDHomerun, fwiw) newly re-compiled on the newly-installed F35 xfce4 workstation. As far as I can tell from trying every network analysis I can find, the connection is good (exception, no response to

Help configuring internal network

2022-03-19 Thread Geoffrey Leach
F35, fresh install. I have an ethernet-connected device (HDHomerun, fwiw) newly re-compiled on the newly-installed F35 xfce4 workstation. As far as I can tell from trying every network analysis I can find, the connection is good (exception, no response to ping) The interface was configured with the