Re: Fedora 31 will not shut down completely

2019-11-12 Thread Tim via users
On Sun, 2019-11-10 at 18:59 -0500, Sam Varshavchik wrote: > I have the grub menu enabled. My poweroff procedure is to do a > reboot, wait until I go back to the grub menu, stop the autoboot > timer, and then hold the power key. This reliably shuts everything > off, without putting stress on the 10-

Re: Fedora 31 will not shut down completely

2019-11-11 Thread Tom Horsley
On Mon, 11 Nov 2019 17:35:30 -0500 john.mel...@gmail.com wrote: > It would appear that the problem is somehow related to booting an EFI > partition. Or something that got corrupted during the initial install. (But I certainly have seen older machines where UEFI was very dodgy). __

Re: Fedora 31 will not shut down completely

2019-11-11 Thread sixpack13
one of interesting/left question to me is: why it had been working with the same bios config. on F30 and stopped it on F31 ? ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedo

Re: Fedora 31 will not shut down completely

2019-11-11 Thread john . mellor
On Sun, 2019-11-10 at 13:11 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 11/10/19 12:56 PM, sixpack13 wrote: > > okay, so we are both liars ! > > fine by me, "endowed" with that "competence" let's fix the OP pain > > ! > > :-) > > > > the priciest questions are (just to put AND remove in one step a > > topic on

Re: Fedora 31 will not shut down completely

2019-11-11 Thread Ed Greshko
On 11/11/19 10:21 PM, John Mellor wrote: Ok, I installed the 5.4.0.0-0.rc6.git3.1.fc32 kernel from koji, but no effect  on the problem. Next, I guess I can try the rawhide kernel. I also swapped out the nVidia graphics card for an old ATI Cedar card, also to  no effect. Another thing you may

Re: Fedora 31 will not shut down completely

2019-11-11 Thread John Mellor
On 2019-11-10 3:22 p.m., stan via users wrote: On Sun, 10 Nov 2019 13:17:33 -0500 John Mellor wrote: I'm starting to suspect a broken ACPI change in the newer kernel, but I'm stuck... Sure looks like it is a bug. Try installing the -debug kernel? At the least it should give you more message

Re: Fedora 31 will not shut down completely

2019-11-10 Thread Sam Varshavchik
John Mellor writes: Turning off rhgb and quiet at boot results in the unquiet shutdown, but no more enlightenment.  The screen output looks ok. Doing a "systemctl poweroff" causes the same hang as the normal poweroff from CLI or from GUI. I have not yet tried the suggestion to relabel the

Re: Fedora 31 will not shut down completely

2019-11-10 Thread sixpack13
> > When the system hangs, I have no keyboard or usable screen to debug > with, as > the system is almost all shutdown. > 1) is a second box and a null modem cable available to setup an serial console ? currently I don't know/I'm unsure how to setup a serial console nowadays (did that

Re: Fedora 31 will not shut down completely

2019-11-10 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 11/10/19 10:17 AM, John Mellor wrote: Turning off rhgb and quiet at boot results in the unquiet shutdown, but no more enlightenment.  The screen output looks ok. Would you be able to type out what the last line on the screen is? Doing a "systemctl poweroff" causes the same hang as the norma

Re: Fedora 31 will not shut down completely

2019-11-10 Thread stan via users
On Sun, 10 Nov 2019 13:17:33 -0500 John Mellor wrote: > I'm starting to suspect a broken ACPI change in the newer kernel, but > I'm stuck... Sure looks like it is a bug. Try installing the -debug kernel? At the least it should give you more messages. You should probably open a bugzilla again

Re: Fedora 31 will not shut down completely

2019-11-10 Thread John Mellor
On 2019-11-09 11:34 a.m., Tom Horsley wrote: On Sat, 09 Nov 2019 11:00:42 -0500 john.mel...@gmail.com wrote: I guess its possible that something is not completing its shutdown step, but it does not appear to be logging that omission. Any idea how to isolate which is the faulty daemon? If you

Re: Fedora 31 will not shut down completely

2019-11-10 Thread sixpack13
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Re: Fedora 31 will not shut down completely

2019-11-10 Thread sixpack13
agreed. more inside in the log files needed. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct

Re: Fedora 31 will not shut down completely

2019-11-09 Thread Ed Greshko
On 11/10/19 12:56 PM, sixpack13 wrote: okay, so we are both liars ! fine by me, "endowed" with that "competence" let's fix the OP pain ! :-) the priciest questions are (just to put AND remove in one step a topic on my list): - OP, do have multi-card readers in your box ? - do you or does fedora

Re: Fedora 31 will not shut down completely

2019-11-09 Thread sixpack13
okay, so we are both liars ! fine by me, "endowed" with that "competence" let's fix the OP pain ! :-) the priciest questions are (just to put AND remove in one step a topic on my list): - OP, do have multi-card readers in your box ? - do you or does fedora do "magic" mapping with them ? - are th

Re: Fedora 31 will not shut down completely

2019-11-09 Thread Ed Greshko
On 11/10/19 12:22 PM, sixpack13 wrote: I have read more then once in the howto's regarding upgrade that one task is to do an relabeling. I have never seen such recommendation.  I'd rather defer to what Dan Walsh has written on the subject: Full relabelling of an SELinux machine should almos

Re: Fedora 31 will not shut down completely

2019-11-09 Thread Ed Greshko
On 11/10/19 10:45 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: I'm not going to spend any time to determine when they do and when they don't. They appear here on multiple systems, with no lvm, OK, I lied. I was curious as to why some the systems here had entries like Nov 07 12:27:42 meimei.greshko.com lvm[43966]: 

Re: Fedora 31 will not shut down completely

2019-11-09 Thread sixpack13
> On 11/10/19 10:25 AM, sixpack13 wrote: > > Nope > > But the point is, the point is that I don't run lvm (esp. lvm2-monitor.service) since month/years. so I was unable to see the OP message like "lvm[14772]: /dev/sdX: open failed: No medium found" on my box. therefore it appeared to m

Re: Fedora 31 will not shut down completely

2019-11-09 Thread Ed Greshko
On 11/10/19 10:25 AM, sixpack13 wrote: okay, journalctl | grep -i lvm => Nov 08 03:07:27 obelix.fritz.box systemd[1]: lvm2-lvmpolld.socket: Succeeded. Nov 08 03:07:27 obelix.fritz.box systemd[1]: Closed LVM2 poll daemon socket. Nov 08 07:58:17 obelix.fritz.box systemd[1]: lvm2-lvmpolld.socket: Su

Re: Fedora 31 will not shut down completely

2019-11-09 Thread sixpack13
okay, journalctl | grep -i lvm => Nov 08 03:07:27 obelix.fritz.box systemd[1]: lvm2-lvmpolld.socket: Succeeded. Nov 08 03:07:27 obelix.fritz.box systemd[1]: Closed LVM2 poll daemon socket. Nov 08 07:58:17 obelix.fritz.box systemd[1]: lvm2-lvmpolld.socket: Succeeded. Nov 08 07:58:17 obelix.fritz.box

Re: Fedora 31 will not shut down completely

2019-11-09 Thread Ed Greshko
On 11/10/19 9:59 AM, sixpack13 wrote: On 11/10/19 3:17 AM, sixpack13 wrote: Those are "normal".  If you check your own logs you will see the same thing. there is no need to check my log's regarding lvm entries. here is no lvm running ! so I can't know what is "normal" on lvm boxes. and therefo

Re: Fedora 31 will not shut down completely

2019-11-09 Thread sixpack13
> On 11/10/19 3:17 AM, sixpack13 wrote: > > Those are "normal".  If you check your own logs you will see the same thing. > there is no need to check my log's regarding lvm entries. here is no lvm running ! so I can't know what is "normal" on lvm boxes. and therefore I underwrote my prev. comment

Re: Fedora 31 will not shut down completely

2019-11-09 Thread Ed Greshko
On 11/10/19 12:00 AM, john.mel...@gmail.com wrote: Git it. However, it is not showing any problems that I can see. Excerpt from the log showing a shutdown and subsequent powerup: === excerpt start === ov 08 19:14:18 localhost.localdomain audit[1]: SERVICE_START pid=1 uid=0 auid=4294967295 ses=

Re: Fedora 31 will not shut down completely

2019-11-09 Thread Ed Greshko
On 11/10/19 3:17 AM, sixpack13 wrote: It hangs with a frozen window showing a stalled rotating action indicator in Gnome, leaving the power on. Wasn't hitting - I believe - ESC-Key a task to see what's going on on the console. what are sdb - sdf are ? and what does the error "/dev/sdf: ope

Re: Fedora 31 will not shut down completely

2019-11-09 Thread Anthony F McInerney
On Sat, 9 Nov 2019 at 19:18, sixpack13 wrote: > It hangs with a frozen window showing a stalled rotating > > action indicator in Gnome, leaving the power on. > > > > Wasn't hitting - I believe - ESC-Key a task to see what's going on on the > console. > > what are sdb - sdf are ? > and what does

Re: Fedora 31 will not shut down completely

2019-11-09 Thread sixpack13
It hangs with a frozen window showing a stalled rotating > action indicator in Gnome, leaving the power on. > Wasn't hitting - I believe - ESC-Key a task to see what's going on on the console. what are sdb - sdf are ? and what does the error "/dev/sdf: open failed: No medium found" mean ? wer

Re: Fedora 31 will not shut down completely

2019-11-09 Thread Joe Zeff
On 11/09/2019 09:56 AM, Anthony F McInerney wrote: Yes i was also wondering when it's hanging, does the escape key work to show the console? Try it and find out. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to

Re: Fedora 31 will not shut down completely

2019-11-09 Thread stan via users
On Sat, 9 Nov 2019 16:56:28 + Anthony F McInerney wrote: > > Yes i was also wondering when it's hanging, does the escape key > > work to > show the console? I run a daemon that is usually sleeping at shutdown. If I don't kill it manually, I get this error. Nothing I've tried does anythin

Re: Fedora 31 will not shut down completely

2019-11-09 Thread Anthony F McInerney
On Sat, 9 Nov 2019 at 16:35, Tom Horsley wrote: > On Sat, 09 Nov 2019 11:00:42 -0500 > john.mel...@gmail.com wrote: > > > I guess its possible that something is not completing its shutdown > > step, but it does not appear to be logging that omission. Any idea how > > to isolate which is the faul

Re: Fedora 31 will not shut down completely

2019-11-09 Thread Tom Horsley
On Sat, 09 Nov 2019 11:00:42 -0500 john.mel...@gmail.com wrote: > I guess its possible that something is not completing its shutdown > step, but it does not appear to be logging that omission. Any idea how > to isolate which is the faulty daemon? If you turn off rhgb and quiet on the kernel boot

Re: Fedora 31 will not shut down completely

2019-11-09 Thread john . mellor
On Sat, 2019-11-09 at 23:00 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 11/9/19 10:42 PM, john.mel...@gmail.com wrote: > > I've had this problem ever since I moved up to Fedora 31 from > > Fedora > > 30. It fails to completely shutdown. It will reboot correctly, > > but > > not shutdown. It hangs with a froze

Re: Fedora 31 will not shut down completely

2019-11-09 Thread Ed Greshko
On 11/9/19 10:42 PM, john.mel...@gmail.com wrote: I've had this problem ever since I moved up to Fedora 31 from Fedora 30. It fails to completely shutdown. It will reboot correctly, but not shutdown. It hangs with a frozen window showing a stalled rotating action indicator in Gnome, leaving th

Fedora 31 will not shut down completely

2019-11-09 Thread john . mellor
I've had this problem ever since I moved up to Fedora 31 from Fedora 30. It fails to completely shutdown. It will reboot correctly, but not shutdown. It hangs with a frozen window showing a stalled rotating action indicator in Gnome, leaving the power on. The machine is an older Gateway core-i7