On Sat, 9 Nov 2019 at 16:35, Tom Horsley <horsley1...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Sat, 09 Nov 2019 11:00:42 -0500
> john.mel...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > I guess its possible that something is not completing its shutdown
> > step, but it does not appear to be logging that omission.  Any idea how
> > to isolate which is the faulty daemon?
>
> If you turn off rhgb and quiet on the kernel boot line,
> you can (usually) watch lots of messages on the console as
> it tries to shutdown and see things like:
>
> A start job is running for shutting down some stupid service
>
>
> Yes i was also wondering when it's hanging, does the escape key work to
show the console?
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