Re: Error reading pen drive

2010-08-28 Thread Parshwa Murdia
On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 2:37 AM, Bill Davidsen wrote: > I think you need to reread the question, not take half of the last sentence > of > the paragraph and disagree with it. > I read all and am not disagreeing but saying what is! -- Regards, Parshwa Murdia -- users mailing list users@lists

Re: Error reading pen drive

2010-08-28 Thread Bill Davidsen
Parshwa Murdia wrote: > On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 2:13 PM, Bill Davidsen > wrote: > > > concluding that all Windows users are numbskulls? > > > > One is numbskull or not is a personal view which you say! And further is > relative. No doubt Linux is more more sec

Re: Error reading pen drive

2010-08-27 Thread Parshwa Murdia
On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 2:13 PM, Bill Davidsen wrote: > concluding that all Windows users are numbskulls? One is numbskull or not is a personal view which you say! And further is relative. No doubt Linux is more more secured and powerful than Windows, but did you check each and every Window u

Re: Error reading pen drive

2010-08-27 Thread Parshwa Murdia
On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 2:18 PM, Bill Davidsen wrote: > Even those who know computing get into the habit of clicking OKAY after a > dozen > or so nanny messages saying "do you really want to..." because there are so > many > (a) warnings without a "skip it the next time" and (b) things which sho

Re: Error reading pen drive

2010-08-25 Thread Bill Davidsen
Tim wrote: > On Tue, 2010-08-24 at 20:26 +0530, Parshwa Murdia wrote: >> most part mean more than 50% (majority). > > And I would agree with Bill saying most Windows users don't think. It's > used by a huge number of people, who have no damn idea about computing, > treating it like some magic box

Re: Error reading pen drive

2010-08-25 Thread Bill Davidsen
Parshwa Murdia wrote: > On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 11:28 PM, Bill Davidsen wrote: > >> I agree Windows users aren't used thinking, for the most part. > > Not always true. Wow, is that ambiguous! Do you disagree that most Windows users accept option offered by the OS without thinking, or with my "

Re: Error reading pen drive

2010-08-25 Thread Parshwa Murdia
On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 7:13 AM, Tim wrote: > And I would agree with Bill saying most Windows users don't think. It's > used by a huge number of people, who have no damn idea about computing, > treating it like some magic box. > Yes that is correct. Though Linux is more powerful and secured b

Re: Error reading pen drive

2010-08-24 Thread Tim
On Tue, 2010-08-24 at 20:26 +0530, Parshwa Murdia wrote: > most part mean more than 50% (majority). And I would agree with Bill saying most Windows users don't think. It's used by a huge number of people, who have no damn idea about computing, treating it like some magic box. -- [...@localhost

Re: Error reading pen drive

2010-08-24 Thread Parshwa Murdia
On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 6:38 PM, Tim wrote: > Bill Davidsen >>> I agree Windows users aren't used thinking, for the most part. > Bill did say for the "most part" which doesn't mean "always." Yes, most part mean more than 50% (majority). -- Regards, Parshwa Murdia -- users mailing list users@

Re: Error reading pen drive

2010-08-24 Thread Tim
Bill Davidsen >> I agree Windows users aren't used thinking, for the most part. Parshwa Murdia > Not always true. And, then, for the rest of the time... Bill did say for the "most part" which doesn't mean "always." -- [...@localhost ~]$ uname -r 2.6.27.25-78.2.56.fc9.i686 Don't send private

Re: Error reading pen drive

2010-08-24 Thread Parshwa Murdia
On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 11:28 PM, Bill Davidsen wrote: > I agree Windows users aren't used thinking, for the most part. Not always true. -- Regards, Parshwa Murdia -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.or

Re: Error reading pen drive

2010-08-22 Thread Bill Davidsen
Tim wrote: > On Sun, 2010-08-22 at 10:48 +0530, Parshwa Murdia wrote: >> Yes, it was failed but the pen drive (in which some videos were there, >> unfortunately which had o back-up!) was formated successfully. And I >> returned it to my friend. Next day, he says, he was not able to work >> with tha

Re: Error reading pen drive

2010-08-22 Thread Parshwa Murdia
On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 6:55 PM, Mikkel wrote: > It is possible to format, and mount, a drive without a partition > table. But you have to mount it manually, because the auto-mount > software does not know how to handle it. Windows will also have a > problem with it. > For that matter, did you k

Re: Error reading pen drive

2010-08-22 Thread Mikkel
On 08/22/2010 01:58 AM, Tim wrote: > On Sun, 2010-08-22 at 10:48 +0530, Parshwa Murdia wrote: >> Yes, it was failed but the pen drive (in which some videos were there, >> unfortunately which had o back-up!) was formated successfully. And I >> returned it to my friend. Next day, he says, he was not

Re: Error reading pen drive

2010-08-22 Thread Parshwa Murdia
On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 12:28 PM, Tim wrote: > Partitioning:  Preparing the drive for the partitions it will have, even > if there will only be one part. > Formatting:  Putting some file system in place on the partition. > It's two steps, even if you have one application that can do both for >

Re: Error reading pen drive

2010-08-21 Thread Tim
On Sun, 2010-08-22 at 10:48 +0530, Parshwa Murdia wrote: > Yes, it was failed but the pen drive (in which some videos were there, > unfortunately which had o back-up!) was formated successfully. And I > returned it to my friend. Next day, he says, he was not able to work > with that, which amazed m

Re: Error reading pen drive

2010-08-21 Thread Parshwa Murdia
On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 1:03 AM, Bill Davidsen wrote: > What happened when you used fdisk to define a partition on the drive? What > error > message did you get that caused you to conclude the commands to create a valid > partition had failed? Yes, it was failed but the pen drive (in which som

Re: Error reading pen drive

2010-08-21 Thread Bill Davidsen
Parshwa Murdia wrote: > On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 2:02 AM, Bill Davidsen wrote: > >> It's working fine, no errors on the drive, only you destroyed the partition >> table and all data. At this point I would use fdisk to create a partition >> (see >> below), and them create a filesystem on the parti

Re: Error reading pen drive

2010-08-20 Thread Parshwa Murdia
On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 9:11 PM, Mikkel wrote: > With gparted, you can see the size of each drive when you go to > select the drive to work on - it works as long as you do not have 2 > drives of the same size plugged in. Oh that's I check. -- Regards, Parshwa Murdia -- users mailing list use

Re: Error reading pen drive

2010-08-20 Thread Mikkel
On 08/19/2010 12:38 PM, Tim wrote: > On Thu, 2010-08-19 at 21:37 +0530, Parshwa Murdia wrote: >> From the very basics, could you please tell me sequentially:- >> >> i) How to know the partition name while inserting usb pen drive? >> Running "fdisk -l" or "fdisk" yields, but with "sdb" not written 1

Re: Error reading pen drive

2010-08-20 Thread Parshwa Murdia
On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 11:08 PM, Tim wrote: > Looking at the tail end of dmesg moments after you've inserted a drive > is an easy way to see where the system finds it.  And you don't need to > be the root user to read that info. Yeah I got it very easily. > With fdisk, you have to be familia

Re: Error reading pen drive

2010-08-19 Thread Tim
On Thu, 2010-08-19 at 21:37 +0530, Parshwa Murdia wrote: > From the very basics, could you please tell me sequentially:- > > i) How to know the partition name while inserting usb pen drive? > Running "fdisk -l" or "fdisk" yields, but with "sdb" not written 1 or > 2 at the end of 'sdb', and for sur

Re: Error reading pen drive

2010-08-19 Thread Parshwa Murdia
On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 6:14 PM, Mikkel wrote: > When you do not have a partition table, Windows does not know what > to do with it, so it will not show up as a drive in My Computer. It > will show up in the hardware list. Oh I see. > While you can use a drive with no partition table, such as

Re: Error reading pen drive

2010-08-19 Thread Mikkel
On 08/18/2010 10:22 PM, Parshwa Murdia wrote: > > Oh, but I tries that pen drive in other PC too (my friend's) and it is > not even getting detected there (in Windows XP Prof.), so it made me > to conclude that there is some internal problem of the pen-drive, > which again is a guess but with prob

Re: Error reading pen drive

2010-08-19 Thread Parshwa Murdia
On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 10:11 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > Wrong, you just need to partition it correctly. Windows requires this as > well, which is why it won't work on your friend's machine. Ok, I try it again! -- Regards, Parshwa Murdia -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.

Re: Error reading pen drive

2010-08-18 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Thu, 2010-08-19 at 08:52 +0530, Parshwa Murdia wrote: > Oh, but I tries that pen drive in other PC too (my friend's) and it is > not even getting detected there (in Windows XP Prof.), so it made me > to conclude that there is some internal problem of the pen-drive, > which again is a guess but w

Re: Error reading pen drive

2010-08-18 Thread Parshwa Murdia
On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 3:24 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > It's also a practical necessity when you're interested in portability. I > copy lots of large video files to my 8GB Kingston because I can just > plug it into my DVD player -- which only groks VFAT -- and watch them on > by plasma TV (

Re: Error reading pen drive

2010-08-18 Thread Parshwa Murdia
On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 3:22 AM, Mikkel wrote: > That is called a DOS partition table. Probably because it was first > used with [MS|PC]DOS. Both fdisk and parted will do this. Parted has > the advantage in that you can format the partition after creating > it, while with fdisk, you have to use

Re: Error reading pen drive

2010-08-18 Thread Parshwa Murdia
On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 2:40 AM, Aaron Konstam wrote: > I find pen drives work much better if they a re partitioned as windows > devices, even on fedora. That's really true! -- Regards, Parshwa Murdia -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription o

Re: Error reading pen drive

2010-08-18 Thread Parshwa Murdia
On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 2:02 AM, Bill Davidsen wrote: > It's working fine, no errors on the drive, only you destroyed the partition > table and all data. At this point I would use fdisk to create a partition (see > below), and them create a filesystem on the partition. > WHAT KIND OF PARTITION?

Re: Error reading pen drive

2010-08-18 Thread Parshwa Murdia
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 9:58 PM, Mikkel wrote: > Of hand, it looks like you did something like "mke2fs /dev/sdb". > While this is valid, it creates a drive without a partition table. > This causes problems for the auto-mount software. Correct, I used that command. But earlier I was really not a

Re: Error reading pen drive

2010-08-18 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Wed, 2010-08-18 at 16:10 -0500, Aaron Konstam wrote: > On Wed, 2010-08-18 at 11:28 -0500, Mikkel wrote: > > On 08/18/2010 08:57 AM, Parshwa Murdia wrote: > > > > > > Disk /dev/sdb: 33.5 GB, 33554432000 bytes > > > 64 heads, 32 sectors/track, 32000 cylinders > > > Units = cylinders of 2048 * 512

Re: Error reading pen drive

2010-08-18 Thread Mikkel
On 08/18/2010 04:10 PM, Aaron Konstam wrote: > On Wed, 2010-08-18 at 11:28 -0500, Mikkel wrote: >> Off hand, it looks like you did something like "mke2fs /dev/sdb". >> While this is valid, it creates a drive without a partition table. >> This causes problems for the auto-mount software. >> >> While

Re: Error reading pen drive

2010-08-18 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Wed, 2010-08-18 at 11:28 -0500, Mikkel wrote: > On 08/18/2010 08:57 AM, Parshwa Murdia wrote: > > > > Disk /dev/sdb: 33.5 GB, 33554432000 bytes > > 64 heads, 32 sectors/track, 32000 cylinders > > Units = cylinders of 2048 * 512 = 1048576 bytes > > Disk identifier: 0x > > > >Device

Re: Error reading pen drive

2010-08-18 Thread Bill Davidsen
Parshwa Murdia wrote: > On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 7:51 PM, Bryn M. Reeves wrote: > >> Probably want just 'fdisk /dev/sdb' if you're planning to create >> partitions and save the table - the -l switch will cause the program to >> print the current table on sdb and exit. > > > Not planning that but

Re: Error reading pen drive

2010-08-18 Thread Mikkel
On 08/18/2010 08:57 AM, Parshwa Murdia wrote: > > Disk /dev/sdb: 33.5 GB, 33554432000 bytes > 64 heads, 32 sectors/track, 32000 cylinders > Units = cylinders of 2048 * 512 = 1048576 bytes > Disk identifier: 0x > >Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System > > I don't

Re: Error reading pen drive

2010-08-18 Thread Parshwa Murdia
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 7:55 PM, Robert G. (Doc) Savage wrote: > Very sorry. Leave out the '-l'. Should not hit the Send button just > after the telephone rings. docsavge, Yes. leaving i would have to check. Just after the telephone ring, one should not hit the Send button. -- Regards, Parsh

Re: Error reading pen drive

2010-08-18 Thread Parshwa Murdia
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 7:51 PM, Bryn M. Reeves wrote: > Probably want just 'fdisk /dev/sdb' if you're planning to create > partitions and save the table - the -l switch will cause the program to > print the current table on sdb and exit. Not planning that but only wanted to have the pen drive

Re: Error reading pen drive

2010-08-18 Thread Parshwa Murdia
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 7:48 PM, Robert G. (Doc) Savage wrote: > Does running 'fdisk -l /dev/sdb' as root allow you to create and save > new partitions? docsavge, yes. -- Regards, Parshwa Murdia -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options

Re: Error reading pen drive

2010-08-18 Thread Robert G. (Doc) Savage
On Wed, 2010-08-18 at 09:18 -0500, Robert G. (Doc) Savage wrote: > Parsha, > > Does running 'fdisk -l /dev/sdb' as root allow you to create and save > new partitions? Parsha, Very sorry. Leave out the '-l'. Should not hit the Send button just after the telephone rings. --Doc Savage Fairview

Re: Error reading pen drive

2010-08-18 Thread Bryn M. Reeves
On 08/18/2010 03:18 PM, Robert G. (Doc) Savage wrote: > Does running 'fdisk -l /dev/sdb' as root allow you to create and save > new partitions? Probably want just 'fdisk /dev/sdb' if you're planning to create partitions and save the table - the -l switch will cause the program to print the current

Re: Error reading pen drive

2010-08-18 Thread Robert G. (Doc) Savage
On Wed, 2010-08-18 at 19:27 +0530, Parshwa Murdia wrote: > On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 6:34 PM, Mikkel wrote: > > > Can you post the output of "fdisk -l" with the drive plugged in? > > > The output of "fdisk -l" is (pen drive plugged in): > > Disk /dev/sda: 250.0 GB, 250059350016 bytes > 255 head

Re: Error reading pen drive

2010-08-18 Thread Parshwa Murdia
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 6:34 PM, Mikkel wrote: > Can you post the output of "fdisk -l" with the drive plugged in? The output of "fdisk -l" is (pen drive plugged in): Disk /dev/sda: 250.0 GB, 250059350016 bytes 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 30401 cylinders Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225

Re: Error reading pen drive

2010-08-18 Thread Mikkel
On 08/18/2010 07:27 AM, Parshwa Murdia wrote: > hi, > I have a kingston 32 GB pen drive which I tried to format but it is > showing me the following error: > > Error mounting device > org.freeDesktop.DeviceKitDisks.Error.Failed: Not a mountable file system > > But when I insert any other pen driv

Error reading pen drive

2010-08-18 Thread Parshwa Murdia
hi, I have a kingston 32 GB pen drive which I tried to format but it is showing me the following error: Error mounting device org.freeDesktop.DeviceKitDisks.Error.Failed: Not a mountable file system But when I insert any other per drive it works. Is there any remedy for this? -- Regards, Parshw