Re: I try to install f42....

2025-05-26 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Marco Moock writes: Am 26.05.2025 um 11:28:10 Uhr schrieb Sam Varshavchik: > The trick is to create a version 1.0 RAID volume, where the RAID > superblock is at the end of the raw partition, and RAID-unaware bits > just see an ordinary partition, instead of the default version 1.1 >

Re: I try to install f42....

2025-05-26 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Marco Moock writes: Am 26.05.2025 um 14:51:23 Uhr schrieb François Patte: > At the end, I get this message: device RAID cannot be boot/efi, > device RAID cannot be swap, device RAID cannot be ext4... The EFI system partition must not be on LVM or mdadm RAID. The UEFI needs to be able to read i

Re: F42: whither xsane-gimp?

2025-05-24 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Jeffrey Walton writes: On Sat, May 24, 2025 at 5:29 PM Sam Varshavchik wrote: > > Todd Zullinger writes: > > > Not per https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/xsane/c/2cc8bf4 > > (Drop GIMP plugin for Fedora >= 41, 2024-10-13) and the > > follow-up which fixes the

Re: F42: whither xsane-gimp?

2025-05-24 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Todd Zullinger writes: Not per https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/xsane/c/2cc8bf4 (Drop GIMP plugin for Fedora >= 41, 2024-10-13) and the follow-up which fixes the reversed values in that commit. I would guess that's because gimp-3.x and the xsane-gimp plugin don't play well together or, more o

F42: whither xsane-gimp?

2025-05-24 Thread Sam Varshavchik
In gimp I'm missing the File/Create option to pull an image from a scanner. Google results mention the xsane-gimp package, but dnf in F42 knows nothing about it. I did find /usr/share/sane/xsane/doc/sane-xsane-gimp-doc.html that tells me to manually create a symbolic link. Huh? That's not p

Re: more of.... vs Ubuntu

2025-05-19 Thread Sam Varshavchik
lejeczek via users writes: »Hi guys. if some devel checks here to see users talk about - I'd interested in hearing some thoughts, comments, for, in some places our Fedora seems to be pretty inferior. https://www.phoronix.com/review/ubuntu2504-fedora42- ampere>https://www.phoronix.com/rev

Advanced Github Notifier Firefox plugin layout issue

2025-05-05 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Is anyone using this Firefox plugin? https://github.com/freaktechnik/advanced-github-notifier I'm just wondering if anyone else is seeing the same problem, or not. The rendering of notifications, in the notification popup, is slightly garbled. It looks like the rendered font is a little bit

Re: Post-F42-Upgrade Error Messages

2025-04-28 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Jeffrey Walton writes: On Mon, Apr 28, 2025 at 7:58 AM Tim Evans wrote: > > >>> Running trigger-post-uninstall scriptlet: > filesystem-0:3.18-36.fc42.x86_64 /usr/sbin cannot be merged, Found > /usr/sbin/dm_dso_reg_tool Maybe related to

Re: Reboot for upgrade

2025-04-26 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Frank Elsner via users writes: Hi community, https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/quick-docs/upgrading-fedora-offline/ recommends "dnf system-upgrade reboot" but after dnf system-upgrade download --releasever=42 the output states "dnf5 offline reboot" to perform the upgrade. What's th c

Re: list/email -- toppost -- off topic..

2025-04-26 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Jeffrey Walton writes: On Sat, Apr 26, 2025 at 7:57 AM Sam Varshavchik wrote: > > A brief search finds several implementations of OTP on top of SASL. There's > your MFA for SMTP, IMAP, and POP3. You're welcome. From RFC 9051, Section 6.2.2. AUTHENTIC

Re: list/email -- toppost -- off topic..

2025-04-26 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Jeffrey Walton writes: One of the most important reasons I use Gmail is because it supports multi-factor authentication (mfa). MFA is great at helping keeping an account secure. Consider, the IETF has never updated SMPT, IMAP or POP to include MFA workflows. Neither SMTP, or IMAP, or POP3, wil

Re: Fedora 42 upgrade issue with mail

2025-04-21 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Garry T. Williams writes: On Sunday, 20 April 2025 17:45:44 EDT Sam Varshavchik wrote: > I estimate that I'll be able to use my setup for no more than 2-3 > years, max, before X11 is sacrificed on the altar of progress, and > latest and greatest. I just updated a workstat

Re: Fedora 42 upgrade issue with mail

2025-04-20 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Patrick O'Callaghan writes: On Sun, 2025-04-20 at 17:45 -0400, Sam Varshavchik wrote: > > One of the big problems with containers (including Flatpaks) is that > > they don't integrate well with the desktop environment. Then the app > > relies on the DE to (say) p

Re: Fedora 42 upgrade issue with mail

2025-04-20 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Joe Zeff writes: On 04/20/2025 06:14 AM, Sam Varshavchik wrote: I think what this is, overall, is watching idiocracy evolve, in realtime. Personally, I've always considered Ubuntu to be designed for Windows refugees. They want to get away from the built in problems of Windows but

Re: Fedora 42 upgrade issue with mail

2025-04-20 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Patrick O'Callaghan writes: On Sun, 2025-04-20 at 08:14 -0400, Sam Varshavchik wrote: > > The Firefox snap in Ubuntu doesn't even start in a VNC session. Everyone > appears to be ok with fiddling with environment variables, in order to do > that. Nobody appears to believe

Re: Fedora 42 upgrade issue with mail

2025-04-20 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Tim via users writes: 3) Thanks to sandboxing, or just plain lack of functionality, we get apps that can't print, for instance. I've got ones that can't, I have to print to PDF, then find something else to print that PDF (which will fail when they eventually appimage the whatever that prints

Re: Fedora 42 upgrade issue with mail

2025-04-18 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Tim via users writes: Hell, why don't just we just dump *everything* into one huge directory? That's make it really easy to manage (not). I get the impression that there's too many un-trained programmers in the world, and much of what they've learned has come from bad examples. This malarkey i

Re: Fedora 42 upgrade issue with mail

2025-04-18 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Charles Dennett writes: Just wanted to add that I found a bugzilla report: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2360491 I predict there's going to be a lot of this, for a year or so. I forgot what were the actual, technical reasons for collapsing bin and sbin, except for "other dis

Re: The answer is here: Fedora Linux 42!

2025-04-17 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Tim via users writes: While there's that, I was thinking more on the user's side. Have you seen mail clients with filtering as good as on news agents? Yes. IIRC, cone is still packaged in Fedora. If not, it's straightforward to build the rpm from the source tarball. Ignore a thread - the

Re: The answer is here: Fedora Linux 42!

2025-04-16 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Frank Bures writes: On 2025-04-16 15:58, Tim via users wrote: This is Linux, we should be on usenet! ;-) I could not agree more. BTW, are you aware of any good and free NNTP servers out there? Sacrilege… How can you forget eternal-september.org? pgpRV5WbSklyN.pgp Description: PGP si

Re: The answer is here: Fedora Linux 42!

2025-04-16 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Tim via users writes: Joking aside, newsgroups were far superior to mailing lists and forums Newsgroups never crossed my mind, as part of the great mailing lists vs. forums discussions. But I have to agree with this, but only slightly. (cached, no email addresses needed to post that would

Re: The answer is here: Fedora Linux 42!

2025-04-15 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Matthew Miller via devel-announce writes: If you run into any trouble, or just have questions, you can find help at: * https://ask.fedoraproject.org/ This made me curious. Does anyone happen to know if the equivalent of this E- mailed announcement (that must've been broadcasted to the variou

Re: sub for google-authenticator?

2025-04-13 Thread Sam Varshavchik
ToddAndMargo via users writes: On Android and IOs I like Red Hat's Free OP. I was referring to $ dnf info google-authenticator Updating and loading repositories: Repositories loaded. Available packages Name : google-authenticator Epoch : 0 The fact that it's available in F

Re: sub for google-authenticator?

2025-04-13 Thread Sam Varshavchik
ToddAndMargo via users writes: On 4/13/25 4:56 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: Vendor : Fedora Project By chance, does this mean it is not a Google product? Nope. Every package you get from Fedora's repos will have this. Including stuff like Apache, Postgres, etc… pgp47Rubz

Re: I need to monitor a dead network

2025-04-05 Thread Sam Varshavchik
ToddAndMargo via users writes: Hi All, Fedora 41 I have a customer I set up a Fedora 41 server. Problem: about once a week, its networking dies. All network services are dead, xrdp, ssh, samba, etc.. All of them. Console logins work fine. The solution is to call the customer and have him l

Re: upstream for qemu-kvm?

2025-03-29 Thread Sam Varshavchik
ToddAndMargo via users writes: Hi All, Anyone know where "upstream" is for qemu-kvm. I'd like to post an RFE. rpm -q -i qemu-kvm comes back with a bunch of stuff, including: URL : http://www.qemu.org/ and that's where I would go to dig up contact info. pgpO_IwS4yvpu.pgp Descrip

Re: SOLVED - Re: follow-up: searching a directory sub-tree.

2025-03-27 Thread Sam Varshavchik
home user via users writes: On 3/26/25 7:40 PM, Sam Varshavchik wrote: home user via users writes: I am indeed wanting the searches to skip the binary files (such as ".png" and ".mkv" files). I am indeed wanting the searches to take case into account. Now, try adding

Re: SOLVED - Re: follow-up: searching a directory sub-tree.

2025-03-26 Thread Sam Varshavchik
home user via users writes: I am indeed wanting the searches to skip the binary files (such as ".png" and ".mkv" files). I am indeed wanting the searches to take case into account. Now, try adding more not-letters-and-digits to the search string. It won't be long before things stop working

Re: raid issues with gigabyte mobo

2025-03-02 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Samuel Sieb writes: If the OS can see all 4 drives, then the "RAID" isn't hardware RAID and isn't really doing anything. Is there a reason you don't want to use the Linux software RAID? It's generally a better option. Here's one data point on why Linux mdraid is better. Many years ago Gru

Re: Maintainers for This List

2024-12-18 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Kevin Fenzi writes: But note, you are using gmail... and gmail tries very very hard to never ever let you see an email you sent yourself. That's an artifact of gmail's automatic de-duping. If someone sends mail to a list you're on, CC-ed to you, you're only going to see whichever copy won

Re: F41 installation issue on Framework 16 laptop: stuck keyboard input (solution)

2024-11-30 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Samuel Sieb writes: On 11/30/24 2:12 PM, Sam Varshavchik wrote: Before doing that I booted the XFCE spin on the first laptop and it had the same problem. This ruled out a firnware difference as the issue. Then I burned the workstation image and booted it. No issues. I checked, and both

Re: F41 installation issue on Framework 16 laptop: stuck keyboard input (solution)

2024-11-30 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Geoffrey Leach writes: On Sat, 30 Nov 2024 17:12:16 -0500 Sam Varshavchik wrote: > Samuel Sieb writes: > > > The XFCE image shouldn't have a different kernel than the > > workstation image, but can you try the workstation image to see if > > it has the same prob

Re: F41 installation issue on Framework 16 laptop: stuck keyboard input (solution)

2024-11-30 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Samuel Sieb writes: The XFCE image shouldn't have a different kernel than the workstation image, but can you try the workstation image to see if it has the same problem for you? Before doing that I booted the XFCE spin on the first laptop and it had the same problem. This ruled out a firn

F41 installation issue on Framework 16 laptop: stuck keyboard input (solution)

2024-11-30 Thread Sam Varshavchik
I've been using a Framework 16 laptop that was originally installed with F40 and updated to F41 (XFCE Spin), without any issues. I just ran into a hillarious installation issue, posting it here in order to feed the search engines. I just received a second Framework 16, so I fed the F41 XFCE

Gmail Notifier Firefox plugin gone mute

2024-09-12 Thread Sam Varshavchik
After installing a recent batch of updates the audio notification from this Firefox plugin is MIA. I still get a popup notification but there's no audio. In the extension's settings the "Play" button has no effect. All the dancing cats on Youtube are still meowing, loud and clear, so I see

Re: Managing guest VMs on Fedora KVM host

2024-08-24 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Philip Prindeville via users writes: Hi, I have some Linux VMs that are running out of space. Is there a tool I can use to manage their .IMG or .QCOW files? In particular, I have a build farm with some Linux machines using LVM filesystems, and I need to resize their PV’s and LV’s, grow t

Re: Reboot timeout

2024-08-22 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Patrick O'Callaghan writes: On Thu, 2024-08-22 at 07:15 -0400, Sam Varshavchik wrote: > Patrick O'Callaghan writes: > > > When I reboot the system, there's a delay of around a minute before > > anything happens. This is a single-user desktop and I really don

Re: Reboot timeout

2024-08-22 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Patrick O'Callaghan writes: When I reboot the system, there's a delay of around a minute before anything happens. This is a single-user desktop and I really don't need to stare at a spinner for so long. Is there a setting somewhere that lets me change this? I'm aware of 'reboot -f' but I assume

Re: OT: UEFI settings for DDR5 RAM

2024-08-19 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Patrick O'Callaghan writes: Apologies in advance if this is too OT. I recently installed a new system based on an MSI B650-P motherboard with an AMD Ryzen 7600 and Corsair DDR5 RAM. The RAM specs show a recommended frequency of 5200 MHz, but the UEFI screen shows it running at 4800MHz (even tho

scroll lock shortcut in emacs

2024-07-30 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Anyone happen to know which alternate key combination toggle scrolls lock mode in emacs? I'm constantly using two different laptops, and, of course, their keyboards have Fn and Ctrl in opposite order. Somehow my fumbling around activates scroll lock mode in Emacs. define- function says tha

emacs packaging glitch

2024-07-27 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Am I the only lucky one who: 1. Has only emacs-gtk+x11 installed 2. Every update of emacs-gtk+x11 also installs the emacs package 3. Then running emacs shows a loud, annoying warning, scolding me for doing something stupid and telling me that I should be running emacs-gtk+x11 4. Manually execu

Re: Installing MS Edge Browser

2024-07-26 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Jonathan Ryshpan writes: « HTML content follows I am trying to install the MS Edge Browser (to access a web site that doesn't work properly under Firefox or Chrome of the KDE native browser). The installation fails when I attempt to install the repo, as follows: # curl -v https://packag

Re: Virtualization and older CPUs

2024-07-23 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Javier Perez writes: »Hi. How can I tell virt-manager to create a VM but with a CPU of an older generation? I am trying to play an old game with wine but I keep getting crashes. Something about UMIP and SIDTs and similar stuff. I did some VM tinkering earlier this year. My recollection is

Re: apache won't start after upgrade - read-only filesystem

2024-07-05 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Alex writes: Do you have any idea why this option isn't part of the systemd service file on the other systems I upgraded? The document root for the other systems uses/var/www, but they didn't have this problem, and their home directories are also defined with this path. I checked my other

Re: apache won't start after upgrade - read-only filesystem

2024-07-05 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Alex writes: « HTML content follows »Hi, I've just upgraded from fedora38 to fedora39 and directly to fedora40 and now apache won't start: (30)Read-only file system: AH00091: httpd: could not open error log file /home/httpd/http://www.mysite.com/logs/error_log>www.mysite.com/logs/err

Re: Interesting mount problem - F40

2024-06-18 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Frank Bures writes: What is happening now is that the machine boots from /dev/sda, but then mounts /dev/sdg for its /boot and /boot/efi. So in df I see /dev/sdg instead of /dev/sda that the machine booted from. I solved the problem by editing /etc/fstab and pointing /boot and /boot/efi t

Re: How to remove settings from a systemd unit file

2024-06-05 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Felix Miata writes: > I tried using > systemctl edit httpd > And putting this in there: > [Service] > ProtectHome= > However this apparently did not work. Please show us the override file in /etc/systemd* that resulted from your edits. Using systemctl edit for for over a year had me baff

How to remove settings from a systemd unit file

2024-06-04 Thread Sam Varshavchik
So I was tearing my hair out trying to figure out why attempts to push via DAV to a git repo were failing. Eventually I succeeded in stracing the httpd process sto capture the request. It was getting an EROFS when it tried to write to the git repo. Amusing. To make a long story short, the

No screen blanking after inactivity, Framework 16 laptop

2024-06-04 Thread Sam Varshavchik
I installed the F40 XFCE Spin on a Framework 16 laptop. Display power management is enabled but the laptop display does not blank after the prescribed period of inactivity, whether the laptop is plugged in or on battery. I tried uninstalling xfce4-screensaver, this made no difference. Does

Re: Please stop hijacking /etc/resolv.conf

2024-06-03 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Jeffrey Walton writes: On Mon, Jun 3, 2024 at 6:42 AM Sam Varshavchik wrote: > > Tim via users writes: > > > Tim: > > >> Is Anaconda more than just the OS installer, now? Is it needed post- > > >> install? > > > > Kevin Fenzi: > > >

Re: Please stop hijacking /etc/resolv.conf

2024-06-03 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Tim via users writes: Tim: >> Is Anaconda more than just the OS installer, now? Is it needed post- >> install? Kevin Fenzi: > No, it's not needed. It's somewhat of a historical artifact of the way > some installs work that it's there. There was some talk about it > removing itself at the end,

Re: chroot

2024-06-01 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Patrick Dupre via users writes: Hello, To update a system installed on a specific partition that way? (after dnf update --refresh) mount /dev/sdx /mnt/linux chroot /mnt/linux dnf system-upgrade download --releasever=40 A bunch of other stuff will likely need to be mounted. Pretty much anythi

Re: Please stop hijacking /etc/resolv.conf

2024-05-31 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Kevin Fenzi writes: On Thu, May 30, 2024 at 04:25:44PM GMT, Sam Varshavchik wrote: > Kevin Fenzi writes: > > > So, I think if you: > > > > disable systemd-resolved > > or > > make /etc/resolv.conf a real file, not a link. > > or > > set &#

Re: Please stop hijacking /etc/resolv.conf

2024-05-30 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Samuel Sieb writes: On 5/30/24 3:44 PM, Jeffrey Walton wrote: On Thu, May 30, 2024 at 6:06 PM Samuel Sieb wrote: On 5/30/24 2:12 PM, Jeffrey Walton wrote: I guess what the logic or script is missing (the one Kevin detailed) is, what to do if NetworkManager is installed and running. That see

Re: Please stop hijacking /etc/resolv.conf

2024-05-30 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Todd Zullinger writes: Kevin Fenzi wrote: [...snip loads of useful information...] > So, I think if you: > > disable systemd-resolved To that end, the change proposal¹ when systemd-resolved was enabled by default (F33) contains an example of how to ensure the service remains disabled -- which w

Re: Please stop hijacking /etc/resolv.conf

2024-05-30 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Kevin Fenzi writes: So, I think if you: disable systemd-resolved or make /etc/resolv.conf a real file, not a link. or set 'DNSStubListener=no' in /etc/systemd/resolved.conf It will not be replaced anymore. I did not even /have/ systemd-resolved installed. dnf system-upgrade installed it on

Re: Please stop hijacking /etc/resolv.conf

2024-05-30 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Barry Scott writes: > On 29 May 2024, at 23:49, Sam Varshavchik wrote: > > I updated from F39 to F40. I used to have: > > /etc/resolv.conf -> /run/NetworkManager/no-stub-resolv.conf > > Everything got messed up because the update hijacked this symlink again: > &

Re: Please stop hijacking /etc/resolv.conf

2024-05-30 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Jeffrey Walton writes: On Wed, May 29, 2024 at 6:55 PM Sam Varshavchik wrote: > > I updated from F39 to F40. I used to have: > > /etc/resolv.conf -> /run/NetworkManager/no-stub-resolv.conf > > Everything got messed up because the update hijacked this symlink again: &

Please stop hijacking /etc/resolv.conf

2024-05-29 Thread Sam Varshavchik
I updated from F39 to F40. I used to have: /etc/resolv.conf -> /run/NetworkManager/no-stub-resolv.conf Everything got messed up because the update hijacked this symlink again: lrwxrwxrwx. 1 root root 39 May 29 09:44 /etc/resolv.conf -> ../run/systemd/resolve/stub-resolv.conf I was confident t

Re: F40 Live image boot failure

2024-05-03 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Samuel Sieb writes: On 5/3/24 17:26, Sam Varshavchik wrote: Samuel Sieb writes: error: ../../grub-core/disk/efi/efidisk.c:531:invalid buffer alignment -1112264040 error: ../../grub-core/loader/i386/efi/linux.c:258:you need to load the kernel first. Press any key to continue... Although

Re: F40 Live image boot failure

2024-05-03 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Samuel Sieb writes: error: ../../grub-core/disk/efi/efidisk.c:531:invalid buffer alignment -1112264040 error: ../../grub-core/loader/i386/efi/linux.c:258:you need to load the kernel first. Press any key to continue... Although my plans are to use dnf system-upgrade, this looks like a kerne

Re: F40 Live image boot failure

2024-05-03 Thread Sam Varshavchik
ToddAndMargo via users writes: On 5/3/24 15:42, Sam Varshavchik wrote: With all the talk of Wayland, I followed up on the idea of downloading an F40 Live image and seeing if it boots on my existing hardware. Well, it did boot on two out of three laptops that are currently running F39. On a

F40 Live image boot failure

2024-05-03 Thread Sam Varshavchik
With all the talk of Wayland, I followed up on the idea of downloading an F40 Live image and seeing if it boots on my existing hardware. Well, it did boot on two out of three laptops that are currently running F39. On a 2013-era Thinkpad W520 it immediately fails with a: error: ../../grub-cor

Re: Live USB extra space

2024-04-28 Thread Sam Varshavchik
ToddAndMargo via users writes: Hi All, I "Finally" have a customer interested in Fedora. I talked him into letting me spin a Live USB flash drive for him to play with before we jump ahead. Question: Is there a way to use the extra space on the drive to install a few more programs for him to

Re: The best way to still use Fedora + Xorg + Gnome ... even after version 40

2024-04-22 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Wolfgang Pfeiffer via users writes: On Mon, Apr 22, 2024 at 12:01:58PM +0200, Wolfgang Pfeiffer via users wrote: On Sun, Apr 21, 2024 at 10:00:02AM -0400, Sam Varshavchik wrote: Wolfgang Pfeiffer via users writes: I can't buy these repeatedly and ad nauseam asserted ideas of x11

Re: The best way to still use Fedora + Xorg + Gnome ... even after version 40

2024-04-21 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Wolfgang Pfeiffer via users writes: I can't buy these repeatedly and ad nauseam asserted ideas of x11/xorg vulnerabilities as an excuse for dumping the Xorg/X11 system as a whole. I don't see much value is discussing the validity of those excuses. It is what it is. They don't want to work on

Re: The best way to still use Fedora + Xorg + Gnome ... even after version 40

2024-04-21 Thread Sam Varshavchik
George N. White III writes: I definitely know what I'll be missing with Wayland, though. There are things Wayland won't permit (xeyes), and things that are yet to implemented.  The latter may not get much attention if they aren't considered important by large enterprises.  Colleagues in

What's up with debuginfod?

2024-04-19 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Can anyone vouch for having a reliable, established, experience with debuginfod? My 'make check' runs valgrind a bunch of times. Right now, each invocation is sitting and doing nothing for about ten minutes, before it apparently times out downloading something from debuginfod.fedoraproject.

Re: The best way to still use Fedora + Xorg + Gnome ... even after version 40

2024-04-19 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Barry writes: The problem is no one is maintaining the X11 code. All the people that used to work on X11 moved on to wayland after it became very clear that X11’s design was preventing implementation of features that end users wanted. So if you stick on X11 you will be running code that is unm

Re: [correction] The best way to still use Fedora + Xorg + Gnome ... even after version 40

2024-04-18 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Suse Shi writes: »from my exprience, fedora xfce spin is a good choice for old hardware, and I'm using fedora+xfce for desktop 10yrs+. The XFCE spin is also a pretty good choice for new hardware, too. pgpyIKEJnGyB2.pgp Description: PGP signature --

Re: The best way to still use Fedora + Xorg + Gnome ... even after version 40

2024-04-17 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Jeffrey Walton writes: Wayland is still pretty immature when compared to X11. It would be nice if Wayland was more mature before we are forced to switch to it.  The question on everyone's mind is: well, here's a video card that works fine with X. It's 5-10 years old, one of mine is even old

Re: Which keys did I hit?

2024-04-12 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Sjoerd Mullender via users writes: On 12/04/2024 10.11, Sam Varshavchik wrote: My fingers had a mind of their own and apparently hit some combination of keys that had a very weird result. I'm using an XFCE desktop. And, apparently, it became, maybe, fourty or so virtual pixels wide

Which keys did I hit?

2024-04-12 Thread Sam Varshavchik
My fingers had a mind of their own and apparently hit some combination of keys that had a very weird result. I'm using an XFCE desktop. And, apparently, it became, maybe, fourty or so virtual pixels wider. Of course, the monitor still has the same number of pixels, so what was happening is

Re: systemd-networkd-wait-online times out

2024-04-11 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Tim via users writes: "The service systemd-networkd-wait-online.service invokes systemd- networkd-wait-online without any options. Thus, it waits for all managed interfaces to be configured or failed, and for at least one to be online." Could it be that you have some additional interfaces conf

Re: systemd-networkd-wait-online times out

2024-04-11 Thread Sam Varshavchik
could tell, systemd- networkd-wait-online did nothing at all, for me, whatsoever, except to delay other units from starting for a couple of minutes. On Wed, Apr 10, 2024 at 6:20 AM Sam Varshavchik wrote: > > Samuel Sieb writes: > > > I have a similar problem where the w

Re: systemd-networkd-wait-online times out

2024-04-10 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Samuel Sieb writes: I have a similar problem where the wait-online service suddenly started taking a very long time and then failing. My system that used to boot in a few seconds now takes over a minute. So I have two questions. What is it waiting for? My main ethernet card gets an addre

Re: systemd-networkd-wait-online times out

2024-04-10 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Tim via users writes: On Tue, 2024-04-09 at 22:12 -0400, Sam Varshavchik wrote: > > Everything comes up normally. Network connectivity on this box is normal. > Originally I was looking into why it took a long time for keepalived to come > up on this box and grab its virtual IP ad

systemd-networkd-wait-online times out

2024-04-09 Thread Sam Varshavchik
I've been made aware that it takes two minutes for systemd-networkd-wait- online.service to spin its wheels, before giving up with a squeal: Apr 09 22:03:30 shorty.email-scan.com systemd[1]: Starting systemd-networkd-wait-online.service - Wait for Network to be Configured… Apr 09 22:05:30 short

Re: F40: mock fails with (some) explicit paths in BuildRequires:

2024-04-05 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Todd Zullinger writes: > So, can anyone tell me why %{_includedir}/ltdl.h, which is > /usr/include/ltdl.h, got rejected by mock+dnf5, but %{__make}, which is > /usr/bin/make was just peachy? Using file or directory paths in requires is only allowed for /usr/bin /usr/sbin, and /etc, per the pack

F40: mock fails with (some) explicit paths in BuildRequires:

2024-04-03 Thread Sam Varshavchik
I cannot mock-rebuild packages that have /some/ BuildRequires: with explicit file dependencies, for F40. I have no idea why just /some/ of them are rejected. I'm using mock to rebuild SRPMS in an F40 chroot, and it fails thusly: Updating and loading repositories: updates

Re: Which scanner/copier do you use with Fedora?

2024-03-21 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Dave Ihnat writes: But with the talk of using HP AiOs, I had to pipe up. I have advised all my clients to no longer buy HP printers of any type, including the AiOs, and will personally never buy another HP printer until and unless they back off their current policies and practices. I believe t

Re: Which scanner/copier do you use with Fedora?

2024-03-21 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Patrick O'Callaghan writes: My Brother all-in-one units (I've had two) have never done that. Also, I can get third-party toner cartridges for very reasonable prices. Did you get that unit after crossing your fingers, and hoping that it works, or did you verify compatibility somehow. I tried

Re: How to turn grub2-install from sad to happy.

2024-03-20 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Stephen Morris writes: resynced all RAID partitions, I ran grub2-install and I'm fairly certain there was a definitive change in grub's behavior, afterwards. Originally three periods were initially shown, for a few seconds, before the grub menu opened. I have a recollection that the number

Re: How to turn grub2-install from sad to happy.

2024-03-19 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Samuel Sieb writes: On 3/19/24 16:50, Sam Varshavchik wrote: Samuel Sieb writes: On 3/19/24 16:05, Sam Varshavchik wrote: I noticed that there was a grub2 update.  From prior experience I know that one needs to manually run grub2-install to actually update the bootloader. Additionally I

Re: How to turn grub2-install from sad to happy.

2024-03-19 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Samuel Sieb writes: On 3/19/24 16:05, Sam Varshavchik wrote: I noticed that there was a grub2 update. From prior experience I know that one needs to manually run grub2-install to actually update the bootloader. Additionally I run mdraid, so I need the bootloader on both /dev/sda and /dev

How to turn grub2-install from sad to happy.

2024-03-19 Thread Sam Varshavchik
I noticed that there was a grub2 update. From prior experience I know that one needs to manually run grub2-install to actually update the bootloader. Additionally I run mdraid, so I need the bootloader on both /dev/sda and /dev/sdb. But: [root@jack ~]# grub2-install /dev/sda grub2-install:

Which scanner/copier do you use with Fedora?

2024-03-18 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Which scanner/copier does everyone use, that works out of the box with Xsane? Printing would be nice but I already have an HP that does the job for me. pgpxrfExOehoA.pgp Description: PGP signature -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.

Re: dmesg suddenly fails when run as normal user on FC39

2024-03-13 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Ron Flory via users writes: »Hi-  does not happen on FC38, or any prior RedHat/Fedora version since forever. Sounds like this has landed: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/de...@lists.fedoraproject.org/thread/U2XA6J5BGPKMS54YM7DTOI4QHUXQTARI/ pgpHS0_YMt3pr.pgp Description: PG

Re: tigervnc server configuration limitation

2024-02-24 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Samuel Sieb writes: On 2/24/24 08:52, Sam Varshavchik wrote: Sam Varshavchik writes: But something is still broken. I went through the motions, set session=xfce, but then something is still broken with systemd. systemctl start vncserver@: 1 results in: Feb 24 11:30:33 monster.email

Re: tigervnc server configuration limitation

2024-02-24 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Samuel Sieb writes: On 2/24/24 07:10, Sam Varshavchik wrote: I'm not sure when Fedora switched to the current tigervnc systemd-based configuration, but: I've been using tigervnc to log in to an Ubuntu box, and it was simple to set up tigervnc on Ubuntu for remote access. I just

Re: tigervnc server configuration limitation

2024-02-24 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Michael D. Setzer II via users writes: As I stated. I've found Turbo VNC seems to work very well. At my home, I've got a notebook, and use it to vnc into 6 other Fedora 39 machines, and two windows machines in house. I hear you. I'm not married to tigervnc, just not sure if trying to get tur

Re: tigervnc server configuration limitation

2024-02-24 Thread Sam Varshavchik
francis.montag...@inria.fr writes: Hi. On Sat, 24 Feb 2024 11:52:40 -0500 Sam Varshavchik wrote: > But something is still broken. I went through the motions, set session=xfce, > ... and that was because even xfce is not going to work. The reason was > dumped into ~/.vnc/*log: &

Re: tigervnc server configuration limitation

2024-02-24 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Sam Varshavchik writes: Michael D. Setzer II via users writes: On 24 Feb 2024 at 10:10, Sam Varshavchik wrote: > That's a no-go for me. My Fedora system is configured to automatically log > into a graphical desktop. This won't work for me, then. Not sure on the latest versio

Re: tigervnc server configuration limitation

2024-02-24 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Michael D. Setzer II via users writes: On 24 Feb 2024 at 10:10, Sam Varshavchik wrote: > That's a no-go for me. My Fedora system is configured to automatically log > into a graphical desktop. This won't work for me, then. Not sure on the latest version of tigervnc on Fedora, f

tigervnc server configuration limitation

2024-02-24 Thread Sam Varshavchik
I'm not sure when Fedora switched to the current tigervnc systemd-based configuration, but: I've been using tigervnc to log in to an Ubuntu box, and it was simple to set up tigervnc on Ubuntu for remote access. I just tried the same on Fedora and was informed that launching vncserver was "d

Re: Copy broken in recent Firefox?

2024-02-23 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Patrick O'Callaghan writes: Works for me. Firefox on KDE (X11), F39. It turned out to be xfce4-terminal, and not Firefox. There was a recent xfce4-terminal rpm update. … and another update just landed, with a helpful "Fix clipboard handling" changelog… pgptrybcI_RRz.pgp Description: P

Copy broken in recent Firefox?

2024-02-23 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Is it just me, or is everyone else no longer able to highlight any multi- line chunk of code in Firefox, copy, then paste it somewhere else? I did some experiments. I can highlight a portion of a line, and that can be pasted in another window. Highlight anything more than a line, nothing gets

Re: github cloning from cmdline

2024-01-14 Thread Sam Varshavchik
bruce writes: It appears that the "ssh -vT g...@github.com" cmd seems to always request a "passphrase" even though the ssh key was created without a passphrase. That's because you don't ssh to github. Once the key is set up, and added to your github profile, "git clone" clones the reposito

Re: sudo problem on restore from archive

2023-12-30 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Robert McBroom via users writes: On a system restore from a tar archive sudo won't work. Says /usr/bin/sudo  needs to be owned by 0 with the suid bit set. Root owns the file and is 0. Looking at a working system directory list shows   -rwsr-xr-x.  1 root root   57456 Aug 16 20:00 su   -

Solution: OVMF 4M-based VMs broken after updating to F39

2023-11-10 Thread Sam Varshavchik
I had an EFI VM that was configured to use /usr/share/edk2/ovmf-4m/OVMF_CODE.secboot.fd as its bootloader in F38. The edk2-ovmf package in F39 no longer installs it. This results in an error message starting any VM that uses OVMF 4M images. The /usr/share/edk2/ovmf-4m directory no longer exis

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