Re: wayward wayland.

2021-04-22 Thread Joe Zeff
On 4/22/21 11:50 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: As you did before, when you have the kernel selection menu hit e.  Then add a 3 to the end of the linux line.  Ctrl-x to continue to single user mode. No, runlevel 3 boots you into a multi-user system with networking, but text based, not graphical. Howe

Re: wayward wayland.

2021-04-22 Thread Ed Greshko
On 23/04/2021 12:34, home user wrote: I'm having to use my old windows-7 partition and system for this message. Rebooting to re-enable SELinux It failed. The last 4 lines of boot messages were: [OK] Started Command Scheduler.  Started GNOME Display Manager...  Started Hold until boo

Re: wayward wayland.

2021-04-22 Thread home user
I'm having to use my old windows-7 partition and system for this message. Rebooting to re-enable SELinux It failed. The last 4 lines of boot messages were: [OK] Started Command Scheduler. Started GNOME Display Manager... Started Hold until boot process finishs up... [OK] Started GN

Re: Announcements for manual configuration intervention?

2021-04-22 Thread Qiyu Yan
在 2021-04-13星期二的 20:59 +0300,Matti Pulkkinen写道: > > As in Anaconda? Yes, It should be set in anaconda in someway. > > Yes, but that's not unexpected because that's where the problem was. > > Yes, the update is what fixed the broken configuration. Or it would > have, if it hadn't instead made a .

Re: System Failure?

2021-04-22 Thread Qiyu Yan
在 2021-04-22星期四的 11:25 -0600,home user写道: > I did my weekly patches (dnf upgrade), rebooted, and logged in as a > regular user.  A problem popped-up.  The top part of the details is > below.  I'm not (yet) seeing any other problems.  Is this a false > alarm?  If not, what should I do? The error

Re: machine will not boot after moving root

2021-04-22 Thread Michael Hennebry
When I ran grub2-install, I used /dev/sda . Should I have used /dev/sda3 ? -- Michael henne...@web.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu "Sorry but your password must contain an uppercase letter, a number, a haiku, a gang sign, a heiroglyph, and the blood of a virgin."

Re: machine will not boot after moving root

2021-04-22 Thread Michael Hennebry
On Thu, 22 Apr 2021, Michael Hennebry wrote: On Thu, 22 Apr 2021, Roger Heflin wrote: My general plan would be to set the new partition bootable with the partitioning program (fdisk there are options to find the option to set bootable) (this all assumes you aren't using EFI). liveboot it.

Re: machine will not boot after moving root

2021-04-22 Thread Michael Hennebry
On Thu, 22 Apr 2021, Roger Heflin wrote: Then whatever windows is using to boot is pointing to grub, and that needs to be repointed to the new device. I'll try changing the bootable flag. There has never been a windows partition in sda5, so something else, possibly the Fedora installer, must h

Re: wayward wayland.

2021-04-22 Thread home user
On 4/22/21 5:55 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: OK  But that makes things slightly more "complicated". The disabling of selinux was to determine if that would allow you to bring up wayland. But if you don't have that option, then nothing will be learned. You won't get the sealerts since selinux wa

Re: wayward wayland.

2021-04-22 Thread Ed Greshko
On 23/04/2021 07:49, home user wrote: With both gdm and the renamed file, the gear menu lists the following gnome  choices... GNOME Classic GNOME on Xorg I went with GNOME on Xorg. Same system and SELinux alerts. Well, with the renamed file you don't seem to have "GNOME" only. That would be the

Re: wayward wayland.

2021-04-22 Thread home user
On 4/22/21 4:56 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: If you are a majority Gnome user I'd go with gdm With both gdm and the renamed file, the gear menu lists the following gnome choices... GNOME Classic GNOME on Xorg I went with GNOME on Xorg. Same system and SELinux alerts. I just saw your post to disabl

Re: machine will not boot after moving root

2021-04-22 Thread Roger Heflin
Then whatever windows is using to boot is pointing to grub, and that needs to be repointed to the new device. I don't believe grub-install does anything with that. On Thu, Apr 22, 2021 at 6:03 PM Michael Hennebry wrote: > > On Thu, 22 Apr 2021, Roger Heflin wrote: > > > Nothing in dracut cares a

Re: wayward wayland.

2021-04-22 Thread Ed Greshko
On 23/04/2021 07:19, home user wrote: bash.1[~]: su - Password: -bash.1[~]: systemctl --force enable gdm Removed /etc/systemd/system/display-manager.service. Created symlink /etc/systemd/system/display-manager.service → /usr/lib/systemd/system/gdm.service. -bash.2[~]: I rebooted. The login

Re: wayward wayland.

2021-04-22 Thread home user
On 4/22/21 4:56 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: If you are a majority Gnome user I'd go with gdm bash.1[~]: su - Password: -bash.1[~]: systemctl --force enable gdm Removed /etc/systemd/system/display-manager.service. Created symlink /etc/systemd/system/display-manager.service → /usr/lib/systemd/system/

Re: machine will not boot after moving root

2021-04-22 Thread Michael Hennebry
On Thu, 22 Apr 2021, Roger Heflin wrote: Nothing in dracut cares about what partition it is on, and grub is not finding the initramfs. Grub is failing to find the boot.cfg files and vmlinuz and inittramfs. So either you have the wrong grub being started or the right grub but it cannot find its

Re: wayward wayland.

2021-04-22 Thread Ed Greshko
On 23/04/2021 06:51, home user wrote: I thought it best to check back with you before trying gdm (which I already have) or sddm (which I don't yet have). If you are a majority Gnome user I'd go with gdm -- Remind me to ignore comments which aren't germane to the thread. ___

Re: wayward wayland.

2021-04-22 Thread home user
On 4/22/21 3:34 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: This may be your problem. Wayland session not working with duplicate GNOME entries in greeter Some greeters (lightdm-webkit2-greeter for example) do not support two sessions with the same name [1]. To check for duplicate entries: ls -1 /usr/share/wayl

Re: wayward wayland.

2021-04-22 Thread Ed Greshko
On 23/04/2021 06:09, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: I'm not sure Wayland would have been part of the default install in 2013, and if all your subsequent installs have been updates than that could explain why you don't have it. I would have no idea as to the minimum packages needed to support waylan

Re: machine will not boot after moving root

2021-04-22 Thread Michael Hennebry
On Thu, 22 Apr 2021, Joe Zeff wrote: On 4/22/21 3:46 PM, Michael Hennebry wrote: What is dracut? Try using man dracut. Man is your friend; trust man. My kernel version is not changing. Should not dracut recreate the same image for the same kernel? Is the partition of the binary or the work

Re: machine will not boot after moving root

2021-04-22 Thread Roger Heflin
Nothing in dracut cares about what partition it is on, and grub is not finding the initramfs. Grub is failing to find the boot.cfg files and vmlinuz and inittramfs. So either you have the wrong grub being started or the right grub but it cannot find its config files. Are you trying to move /root

Re: wayward wayland.

2021-04-22 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Thu, 2021-04-22 at 15:29 -0600, home user wrote: > On 4/22/21 3:23 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > On Thu, 2021-04-22 at 11:29 -0600, home user wrote: > > > On 4/22/21 11:10 AM, Joe Zeff wrote: > > > > On 4/22/21 9:50 AM, home user wrote: > > > > > I'm wondering if wayland and earlyoom did ge

Re: wayward wayland.

2021-04-22 Thread Ed Greshko
On 23/04/2021 06:01, home user wrote: On 4/22/21 3:34 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 23/04/2021 05:26, home user wrote: Or, you can try switching to a different DM. If you have gdm or sddm installed you can do systemctl --force enable sddm Then reboot. Thinking of both the present and the

Re: wayward wayland.

2021-04-22 Thread home user
On 4/22/21 3:34 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 23/04/2021 05:26, home user wrote: Or, you can try switching to a different DM. If you have gdm or sddm installed you can do systemctl --force enable sddm Then reboot. Thinking of both the present and the next few years, which of lightdm, gdm,

Re: machine will not boot after moving root

2021-04-22 Thread Joe Zeff
On 4/22/21 3:46 PM, Michael Hennebry wrote: What is dracut? Try using man dracut. Man is your friend; trust man. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code o

Re: machine will not boot after moving root

2021-04-22 Thread Michael Hennebry
On Thu, 22 Apr 2021, Lester M Petrie wrote: On 4/22/21 4:19 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 4/22/21 1:40 PM, Michael Hennebry wrote: I'm trying to move my root directory from sda5 to sda3. After running grub2-install and grub2-mkconfig, my machine will not boot. I don't see any mention of your using

Re: wayward wayland.

2021-04-22 Thread Ed Greshko
On 23/04/2021 05:26, home user wrote: bash.8[~]: systemctl status display-manager ● lightdm.service - Light Display Manager Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/system/lightdm.service; enabled; vendor  preset: enabled) Active: active (running) since Thu 2021-04-22 10:57:46 MDT; 4h 27min ago

Re: wayward wayland.

2021-04-22 Thread home user
On 4/22/21 3:23 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Thu, 2021-04-22 at 11:29 -0600, home user wrote: On 4/22/21 11:10 AM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 4/22/21 9:50 AM, home user wrote: I'm wondering if wayland and earlyoom did get installed and then later removed or de-activated.  I'm also wondering what

Re: machine will not boot after moving root

2021-04-22 Thread Lester M Petrie
On 4/22/21 4:19 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 4/22/21 1:40 PM, Michael Hennebry wrote: I'm trying to move my root directory from sda5 to sda3. After running grub2-install and grub2-mkconfig, my machine will not boot. I don't see any mention of your using dracut to rebuild your initramfs after maki

Re: wayward wayland.

2021-04-22 Thread home user
On 4/22/21 3:18 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 23/04/2021 04:04, home user wrote: Is that referring to gnome vs. plasma vs. mate vs. (etc)? If yes, I usually log into the first GNOME entry, which is apparently the same as GNOME on Xorg.  The version is 3.38.5.  The windowing system is X11. That i

Re: wayward wayland.

2021-04-22 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Thu, 2021-04-22 at 11:29 -0600, home user wrote: > On 4/22/21 11:10 AM, Joe Zeff wrote: > > On 4/22/21 9:50 AM, home user wrote: > > > I'm wondering if wayland and earlyoom did get installed and then > > > later > > > removed or de-activated.  I'm also wondering what else I should > > > have >

Re: wayward wayland.

2021-04-22 Thread Ed Greshko
On 23/04/2021 04:04, home user wrote: Is that referring to gnome vs. plasma vs. mate vs. (etc)? If yes, I usually log into the first GNOME entry, which is apparently the same as GNOME on Xorg.  The version is 3.38.5.  The windowing system is X11. That is the DE or Desktop Environment If no, 

Re: machine will not boot after moving root

2021-04-22 Thread Joe Zeff
On 4/22/21 1:40 PM, Michael Hennebry wrote: I'm trying to move my root directory from sda5 to sda3. After running grub2-install and grub2-mkconfig, my machine will not boot. I don't see any mention of your using dracut to rebuild your initramfs after making the changes. __

Re: wayward wayland.

2021-04-22 Thread home user
On 4/22/21 1:17 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: That should support Wayland. You can see the actual version of the nvidia driver with strings /lib/modules/`uname -r`/extra/nvidia/nvidia.ko | grep ^version= -bash.4[~]: strings /lib/modules/`uname -r`/extra/nvidia/nvidia.ko | grep ^version= versio

machine will not boot after moving root

2021-04-22 Thread Michael Hennebry
I'm trying to move my root directory from sda5 to sda3. After running grub2-install and grub2-mkconfig, my machine will not boot. I performed the changes using a F33 live DVD which also fails to boot. After plugging in a USB-connected SD card with Centos 7 on it, the F33 live DVD decided to boot.

Re: wayward wayland.

2021-04-22 Thread Ed Greshko
On 22/04/2021 23:50, home user wrote: On 4/22/21 1:14 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 20/04/2021 01:23, home user wrote: How do I get wayland properly working on my workstation? You have nVidia HW and are using the nVidia drivers packaged by rpmfusion. To give any opinion about you chances to ge

Re: dangling symlinks and upgrades (was "invisible application after upgrade"). [CLOSED]

2021-04-22 Thread home user
On 4/12/21 11:12 AM, home user wrote: (context) In the "invisible application after upgrade" thread, Ed did not know how I did my upgrade to f33.  I responded that I mostly followed the Fedora upgrade instructions from here: "https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/quick-docs/dnf-system-upgrade/"

Re: wayward wayland.

2021-04-22 Thread Joe Zeff
On 4/22/21 11:29 AM, home user wrote: I did that as a part of the upgrade earlier this month.  But I try again: bash.1[~]: su - Password: -bash.1[~]: dnf distro-sync Last metadata expiration check: 0:51:59 ago on Thu 22 Apr 2021 10:35:59 AM MDT. Dependencies resolved. Nothing to do. Complete!

Re: wayward wayland.

2021-04-22 Thread George N. White III
On Thu, 22 Apr 2021 at 04:14, Ed Greshko wrote: > > To give any opinion about you chances to get wayland working one would need > to know your HW and what version of the driver you're running. If your HW > is > 8 years old, then my guess would be your chances of getting wayland running > are sli

Re: wayward wayland.

2021-04-22 Thread home user
On 4/22/21 11:10 AM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 4/22/21 9:50 AM, home user wrote: I'm wondering if wayland and earlyoom did get installed and then later removed or de-activated.  I'm also wondering what else I should have but am missing.  In other words, do I have a broader problem? If you're concern

System Failure?

2021-04-22 Thread home user
I did my weekly patches (dnf upgrade), rebooted, and logged in as a regular user.  A problem popped-up.  The top part of the details is below.  I'm not (yet) seeing any other problems.  Is this a false alarm?  If not, what should I do? --- not-reportable The backtrace does not con

Re: wayward wayland.

2021-04-22 Thread Joe Zeff
On 4/22/21 9:50 AM, home user wrote: I'm wondering if wayland and earlyoom did get installed and then later removed or de-activated.  I'm also wondering what else I should have but am missing.  In other words, do I have a broader problem? If you're concerned about that, you might consider usin

Re: wayward wayland.

2021-04-22 Thread home user
On 4/22/21 1:14 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 20/04/2021 01:23, home user wrote: How do I get wayland properly working on my workstation? You have nVidia HW and are using the nVidia drivers packaged by rpmfusion. To give any opinion about you chances to get wayland working one would need to kno

Re: wayward wayland.

2021-04-22 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Thu, 2021-04-22 at 20:55 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 22/04/2021 19:36, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > > I don't currently use Wayland as I'm on KDE, but I have briefly > > tested > > it in F33 under Gnome. My hardware is of a similar age, i.e. the > > mobo > > is at least 8 years old and the

Re: wayward wayland.

2021-04-22 Thread Ed Greshko
On 22/04/2021 19:36, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: I don't currently use Wayland as I'm on KDE, but I have briefly tested it in F33 under Gnome. My hardware is of a similar age, i.e. the mobo is at least 8 years old and the GPU is a GTX-1050 from 2017, using the RPMfusion driver. It all worked fine

Re: wayward wayland.

2021-04-22 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Thu, 2021-04-22 at 15:14 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 20/04/2021 01:23, home user wrote: > > While trying to diagnose problems as a part of another thread in > > this list, I discovered that wayland is not functional on my > > workstation. I'm currently logged in to gnome using the top "GNOME"

Re: on to letsencrypt

2021-04-22 Thread Tim via users
On Thu, 2021-04-22 at 14:32 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > I should have mentioned, not talking about other places, but here in > Taiwan it seems the TTL on dynamic IP's is rather long. My nephew, > while he doesn't run a web server, has told me he gets the same IP > address even if his notebook has b

Re: wayward wayland.

2021-04-22 Thread Ed Greshko
On 20/04/2021 01:23, home user wrote: While trying to diagnose problems as a part of another thread in this list, I discovered that wayland is not functional on my workstation. I'm currently logged in to gnome using the top "GNOME" entry in the menu of desktops that is displayed in the upper r