Re: tip: upgrade to 32

2020-04-20 Thread Ed Greshko
On 2020-04-21 14:07, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: > Still getting > > warning: > /var/cache/dnf/brave-browser-rpm-release.s3.brave.com_x86_64_-d55d330619c02b48/packages/brave-browser-1.7.92-1.x86_64.rpm: > Header V4 RSA/SHA512 Signature, key ID 82d3dc6c: NOKEY > Public key for brave-browser-1.7.

Re: tip: upgrade to 32

2020-04-20 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 2020-04-20 18:29, Ed Greshko wrote: On 2020-04-19 03:30, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 2020-04-18 11:10, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: Hi All, To get FC32 to upgrade on on eof my VM's, I have to add    --disablerepo=brave* to the following: #dnf --enablerepo=* update --refresh -

Re: tip: upgrade to 32

2020-04-20 Thread Tim via users
On Mon, 2020-04-20 at 12:37 -0700, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: > I tell these customer they MUST have in place > the means to make manual sales. I know of one business who's computer system failed, and the only reason they didn't go under, too, was because they did manual invoicing (they took or

Re: Locked in emergency mode

2020-04-20 Thread stan via users
On Mon, 20 Apr 2020 20:52:23 +0100 Paul Smith wrote: > Thanks, Stan. After having run > > fsck /dev/mapper/fedora_localhost--live-home > > within emergency mode and rebooted, the problem seems to be resolved. You're welcome. I saw the continuation from Roger where he guided you to the issue.

Re: tip: upgrade to 32

2020-04-20 Thread Ed Greshko
On 2020-04-19 03:30, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: > On 2020-04-18 11:10, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: >> Hi All, >> >> To get FC32 to upgrade on on eof my VM's, I have to add >> >>    --disablerepo=brave* >> >> to the following: >> >> >> #dnf --enablerepo=* update --refresh --disablerepo=brav

Re: tip: upgrade to 32

2020-04-20 Thread Tim via users
On Mon, 2020-04-20 at 12:08 -0700, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: > Chrome is not preinsalled, yet it get the gets over 70% of > market. It is on every Android phone I've seen. -- uname -rsvp Linux 3.10.0-1062.18.1.el7.x86_64 #1 SMP Tue Mar 17 23:49:17 UTC 2020 x86_64 Boilerplate: All unexp

Re: tip: upgrade to 32

2020-04-20 Thread Stephen Perkins
This horse is dead. Beating it will add nothing to Fedora users lives. I buy on Swanson using FF and have NO problems. On Mon, 20 Apr 2020 at 18:21, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: > > On 2020-04-20 12:50, stan via users wrote: > > It surprises me that your clients are concerned about google > >

Re: Locked in emergency mode

2020-04-20 Thread Paul Smith
Thank you very much indeed, Roger! Without your help, I would have not fixed the problem. I did remove both the nofail than the "0 0", and everything seems to be working fine! I have already rebooted and no emergency mode appeared. Paul On Mon, Apr 20, 2020 at 9:38 PM Roger Heflin wrote: > > re

Re: tip: upgrade to 32

2020-04-20 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 2020-04-20 12:50, stan via users wrote: It surprises me that your clients are concerned about google tracking them, with their attitude. Their attitude is based on meeting their customer's needs. If one web browser does not work with the their customer's requirements, my customer does not h

Re: tip: upgrade to 32

2020-04-20 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 2020-04-20 12:50, stan via users wrote: Now if you really, really, really cared about security, you would drop Windows and move to Fedora. But then you are back to the same old problem. If Fedora does not run the software you need it to run, "it does not work. I will use what works". It doe

Re: Alpine curiosity

2020-04-20 Thread George N. White III
On Mon, 20 Apr 2020 at 15:32, VO wrote: > On Mon, 2020-04-20 at 11:11 -0700, Samuel Sieb wrote: > > On 4/20/20 10:47 AM, AV wrote: > > > OK the experiment (In reply to Samuel Sieb) > > > > Looks like your mail server doesn't require a login when you're > > inside > > their network. > > Wouldn

Re: Anaconda error, no explanation

2020-04-20 Thread Chris Murphy
On Sun, Apr 19, 2020 at 6:08 AM Jonathan Billings wrote: > > On Apr 18, 2020, at 16:19, stan via users > wrote: > > That was a while ago, and the details are > > vague to me now, but there was a partition for efi, a partition for > > keeping the disk layout, and a backup mbr partition. > > For E

Re: Locked in emergency mode

2020-04-20 Thread Roger Heflin
remove the ,nofail and see if it goes to emergency mode still. If it does then remove these from the grub file rd.lvm.lv=fedora_localhost-live/root rd.lvm.lv=fedora_localhost-live/swap And add this in its place: rd.lvm.vg=fedora_localhost-live The above 2 options indicate that only those 2 lv ar

Re: AMD GPU not used by Fedora 31

2020-04-20 Thread George N. White III
On Mon, 20 Apr 2020 at 14:34, Sreyan Chakravarty wrote: > In that >> case, I did a text mode install and then install the (Nvidia) >> drivers for the discrete graphics to get around the GUI installer's >> attempts to use bumblebee (linux optimus support). > > > Could yo > > u tell me how you di

Re: Locked in emergency mode

2020-04-20 Thread Paul Smith
Thanks, Stan. After having run fsck /dev/mapper/fedora_localhost--live-home within emergency mode and rebooted, the problem seems to be resolved. Paul On Mon, Apr 20, 2020 at 7:28 PM stan via users wrote: > > On Mon, 20 Apr 2020 12:23:35 +0100 > Paul Smith wrote: > > > Dear All, > > > > This

Re: tip: upgrade to 32

2020-04-20 Thread stan via users
On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 15:08:29 -0700 ToddAndMargo via users wrote: > If you are using Firefox Nightlies, you are in for a > wild ride. They are B-U-G-G-Y. I only test them when > I am forced to for by some issue and I get back off them > as soon as possible I've been running it for years, and ye

Re: tip: upgrade to 32

2020-04-20 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 2020-04-20 12:27, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: Other customer of mine do point-of-sale on the cloud. I tell these customer they MUST have in place the means to make manual sales. Problem with that is that the employees hate doing that so much, that they just tell the customer to come back

Re: tip: upgrade to 32

2020-04-20 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 2020-04-19 04:29, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: I use Firefox daily and it continues to improve. I don; t know why you say it's dying. I've also used Brave but it tends to have more issues than FF with some sites. poc I install Firefox on all my customers machine, then Brave when they complain

Re: tip: upgrade to 32

2020-04-20 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 2020-04-19 08:22, George N. White III wrote: On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 at 01:26, ToddAndMargo via users mailto:users@lists.fedoraproject.org>> wrote: On 2020-04-18 20:59, Samuel Sieb wrote: > On 4/18/20 7:18 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: >> Because Brave is not part of Fedora, a

Re: tip: upgrade to 32

2020-04-20 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 2020-04-20 03:01, Tim via users wrote: On Sun, 2020-04-19 at 15:08 -0700, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: But here is the rub. Firefox has been dumped by so many people over this issue, that it is no longer a serious choice for anyone who wants a broadly compatible browser. Is it, though? S

Re: AMD GPU not used by Fedora 31

2020-04-20 Thread VO
On Mon, 2020-04-20 at 23:19 +0530, Sreyan Chakravarty wrote: > > The hybrid pc's have always been > > a bit troublesome to configure. As recent AMD graphics runs under > > Wayland without problems it might have something to do with the age > > of your AMD chip and/or the hybrid complication. > > I

Re: Alpine curiosity

2020-04-20 Thread VO
On Mon, 2020-04-20 at 11:11 -0700, Samuel Sieb wrote: > On 4/20/20 10:47 AM, AV wrote: > > OK the experiment (In reply to Samuel Sieb) > > Looks like your mail server doesn't require a login when you're > inside > their network. Wouldn't that be a rather curious situation. (And none of the m

Re: Locked in emergency mode

2020-04-20 Thread stan via users
On Mon, 20 Apr 2020 12:23:35 +0100 Paul Smith wrote: > Dear All, > > This morning, I tried to run VirtualBox, but it did not start. Then I > tried to do a reboot and while booting, I got into emergency mode. I > typed my root password and issued the command > > systemctl reboot > > It reboots,

Re: AMD GPU not used by Fedora 31

2020-04-20 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 4/20/20 10:49 AM, Sreyan Chakravarty wrote: The hybrid pc's have always been a bit troublesome to configure. As recent AMD graphics runs under Wayland without problems it might have something to do with the age of your AMD chip and/or the hybrid complication. I have an applic

Re: AMD GPU not used by Fedora 31

2020-04-20 Thread VO
On Mon, 2020-04-20 at 23:19 +0530, Sreyan Chakravarty wrote: > > The hybrid pc's have always been > > a bit troublesome to configure. As recent AMD graphics runs under > > Wayland without problems it might have something to do with the age > > of your AMD chip and/or the hybrid complication. > > I

Re: Alpine curiosity

2020-04-20 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 4/20/20 10:47 AM, AV wrote: OK the experiment (In reply to Samuel Sieb) Looks like your mail server doesn't require a login when you're inside their network. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email

Re: AMD GPU not used by Fedora 31

2020-04-20 Thread Sreyan Chakravarty
> > The hybrid pc's have always been > a bit troublesome to configure. As recent AMD graphics runs under > Wayland without problems it might have something to do with the age > of your AMD chip and/or the hybrid complication. I have an application called Switcheroo running, do you know what that

Re:Alpine curiosity

2020-04-20 Thread AV
OK the experiment (In reply to Samuel Sieb) ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-cond

Re: Locked in emergency mode

2020-04-20 Thread Paul Smith
Hi Roger, By adding "defaults,nofail" and "0 0" to /home on fstab, my computer reboots fine. What a mystery! Paul On Mon, Apr 20, 2020 at 4:51 PM Paul Smith wrote: > > Thanks, Roger. The result of the command was: > > --- > cat /proc/cmdline > BOOT_IMAGE=(hd0,msdos1)/vmlinuz-5.5.

Re: AMD GPU not used by Fedora 31

2020-04-20 Thread Sreyan Chakravarty
> > In that > case, I did a text mode install and then install the (Nvidia) > drivers for the discrete graphics to get around the GUI installer's > attempts to use bumblebee (linux optimus support). Could you tell me how you did a text mode install ? Via Kickstart ? I didn't know that there was

Re: Alpine curiosity

2020-04-20 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 4/20/20 5:57 AM, AV wrote: I have been a longtime user of mutt but switched to evolution and/of geary to have less configuration hassle. Yesterday I had an hour to spare so I decided to have a look at the Alpine email client. I installed and did a minimal config only adding imap, smtp and send

Re: Locked in emergency mode

2020-04-20 Thread Paul Smith
Thanks, Roger. The result of the command was: --- cat /proc/cmdline BOOT_IMAGE=(hd0,msdos1)/vmlinuz-5.5.17-200.fc31.x86_64 root=/dev/mapper/fedora_localhost--live-root ro resume=/dev/mapper/fedora_localhost--live-swap rd.lvm.lv=fedora_localhost-live/root rd.lvm.lv=fedora_localhost-live

Re: Alpine curiosity

2020-04-20 Thread VO
On Mon, 2020-04-20 at 16:13 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Mon, 2020-04-20 at 14:57 +0200, AV wrote: > > > > Yesterday I had an hour to spare so I decided to > > have a look at the Alpine email client. > > I installed and did a minimal config only adding > > imap, smtp and sender. No pass

Re: Locked in emergency mode

2020-04-20 Thread Roger Heflin
Nothing really to see there. cat /proc/cmdline and lets see what is on it. On Mon, Apr 20, 2020 at 10:03 AM Paul Smith wrote: > > Thanks, Roger! You can find below the output of the two commands. > > Paul > --- > 13.843s dnf-makecache.service > 4.961s NetworkMana

Re: Alpine curiosity

2020-04-20 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Mon, 2020-04-20 at 14:57 +0200, AV wrote: > I have been a longtime user of mutt but switched to > evolution and/of geary to have less configuration > hassle. > Yesterday I had an hour to spare so I decided to > have a look at the Alpine email client. > I installed and did a minimal config only

Re: Locked in emergency mode

2020-04-20 Thread Paul Smith
Thanks, Roger! You can find below the output of the two commands. Paul --- 13.843s dnf-makecache.service 4.961s NetworkManager-wait-online.service 2.047s systemd-udev-settle.service 1.506s akmods.service 1.257s firewalld.service 996ms sssd.service 994ms init

Re: AMD GPU not used by Fedora 31

2020-04-20 Thread VO
On Mon, 2020-04-20 at 11:27 +, Sreyan Chakravarty wrote: > > With Optimus, output of the hardware graphics processor is sent > > to the frame buffer of the integrated graphics processor. > > I don't have Optimus as my laptop is old. Have a look at this url: https://www.notebookcheck.net/AMD-D

Re: Locked in emergency mode

2020-04-20 Thread Roger Heflin
So home mounted eventually. Run these 2 commands and return the output: systemd-analyze blame systemd-analyze critical-chain home.mount if the 2nd one returns nothing do this: systemctl list-units | grep home and use the name of the .mount unit it reports that home is using. On Mon, Apr 20, 20

Re: Alpine curiosity

2020-04-20 Thread VO
On Mon, 2020-04-20 at 08:25 -0500, Ranjan Maitra wrote: > On Mon, 20 Apr 2020 14:57:31 +0200 AV wrote: > > > I have been a longtime user of mutt but switched to > > evolution and/of geary to have less configuration > > hassle. > > Yesterday I had an hour to spare so I decided to > > have a look a

Re: Locked in emergency mode

2020-04-20 Thread Paul Smith
Thanks, Roger. After having edited fstab according to your guidelines, I issued the command # exit on the root prompt and I was led to my usual graphical login panel. I did the following after having logged in: # mount /home mount: /home: /dev/mapper/fedora_localhost--live-home already mounted

Re: Locked in emergency mode

2020-04-20 Thread Roger Heflin
Edit your fstab and on the entry for /home were it says defaults change it to "defaults,nofail" and where it says "1 2" at then end change that to "0 0" I am not sure if the last 2 entries are still used quite the same way but "0 0" will stop anything else looking for /home. That should get you

Re: Locked in emergency mode

2020-04-20 Thread Paul Smith
Thanks again, Roger. Got them! Please, see them at: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/158qtJIgB6WiEbnLu4oFShbSY1paWafj8?usp=sharing Thanks, Paul On Mon, Apr 20, 2020 at 2:26 PM Roger Heflin wrote: > > Hit shift-pageup/pagedown it will scroll that screen, it should scroll > back 100's of l

Re: Locked in emergency mode

2020-04-20 Thread Roger Heflin
Hit shift-pageup/pagedown it will scroll that screen, it should scroll back 100's of lines or more. Take pictures each pageup. On Mon, Apr 20, 2020 at 8:20 AM Paul Smith wrote: > > Thanks, Roger. But how can I get the error messages? > > Paul > > On Mon, Apr 20, 2020 at 2:13 PM Roger Heflin wro

Re: Alpine curiosity

2020-04-20 Thread Ranjan Maitra
On Mon, 20 Apr 2020 14:57:31 +0200 AV wrote: > I have been a longtime user of mutt but switched to > evolution and/of geary to have less configuration > hassle. > Yesterday I had an hour to spare so I decided to > have a look at the Alpine email client. > I installed and did a minimal config only

Re: Locked in emergency mode

2020-04-20 Thread Paul Smith
Thanks, Roger. But how can I get the error messages? Paul On Mon, Apr 20, 2020 at 2:13 PM Roger Heflin wrote: > > A screen shot of the fstab does not tell anyone anything as we have no > way to know what is going on. > > Did you follow the instructions to use shift-pageup/down to page > through

Re: Locked in emergency mode

2020-04-20 Thread Roger Heflin
A screen shot of the fstab does not tell anyone anything as we have no way to know what is going on. Did you follow the instructions to use shift-pageup/down to page through the error messages (above the emergency mode prompt) and and see what it indicates is going wrong? It is probably going to

Alpine curiosity

2020-04-20 Thread AV
I have been a longtime user of mutt but switched to evolution and/of geary to have less configuration hassle. Yesterday I had an hour to spare so I decided to have a look at the Alpine email client. I installed and did a minimal config only adding imap, smtp and sender. No password. Out of curiosi

Re: Locked in emergency mode

2020-04-20 Thread Paul Smith
Please, see my fstab photo: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1fWv2h-CLt2ecoE2m5aCpAOsUr2aEhuvh/view?usp=sharing Paul On Mon, Apr 20, 2020 at 1:22 PM Paul Smith wrote: > > Thanks, Roger and Ed. I did not touch fstab at all. It may have been > VirtualBox by itself. > > I did enter my root passwor

Re: Locked in emergency mode

2020-04-20 Thread Paul Smith
Thanks, Roger and Ed. I did not touch fstab at all. It may have been VirtualBox by itself. I did enter my root password. And now, what should I do next? Thanks, Paul On Mon, Apr 20, 2020 at 1:09 PM Roger Heflin wrote: > > You have to type your password and then figure out what is going wrong.

Re: Locked in emergency mode

2020-04-20 Thread Roger Heflin
You have to type your password and then figure out what is going wrong. Any number of things can be messed up.Often if one adds a fstab entry and does it wrong systemd will drop you to emergency mode. Mountpoint mising, path to device wrong. If you did mess with fstab recently then add ",nof

Re: Locked in emergency mode

2020-04-20 Thread Ed Greshko
On 2020-04-20 19:23, Paul Smith wrote: > Dear All, > > This morning, I tried to run VirtualBox, but it did not start. Then I > tried to do a reboot and while booting, I got into emergency mode. I > typed my root password and issued the command > > systemctl reboot > > It reboots, but again I got lo

Re: AMD GPU not used by Fedora 31

2020-04-20 Thread George N. White III
On Mon, 20 Apr 2020 at 08:27, Sreyan Chakravarty wrote: > > > With Optimus, output of the hardware graphics processor is sent > > to the frame buffer of the integrated graphics processor. > > I don't have Optimus as my laptop is old. > Optimus goes back 10 years, but I don't know if it was used

Re: AMD GPU not used by Fedora 31

2020-04-20 Thread Sreyan Chakravarty
> With Optimus, output of the hardware graphics processor is sent > to the frame buffer of the integrated graphics processor. I don't have Optimus as my laptop is old. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email

Locked in emergency mode

2020-04-20 Thread Paul Smith
Dear All, This morning, I tried to run VirtualBox, but it did not start. Then I tried to do a reboot and while booting, I got into emergency mode. I typed my root password and issued the command systemctl reboot It reboots, but again I got locked into emergency mode. How can I overcome this? T

Re: AMD GPU not used by Fedora 31

2020-04-20 Thread George N. White III
On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 at 17:54, Roger Heflin wrote: > In most of the laptops with additional graphics cards I don't believe > the intel card is even going to be wired to the display at all. > Few laptops have video cards. Many have both chipset graphics (Intel HD) and a discrete graphics chip sol

Re: AMD GPU not used by Fedora 31

2020-04-20 Thread Sreyan Chakravarty
> On 4/19/20 6:07 AM, Sreyan Chakravarty wrote: > > Why do you think it's not being used? Because there is an option to launch any application with the option "Launch using dedicated graphics cards". This would imply that the primary display adapter is the inbuilt Intel Graphics. I want to to

Re: AMD GPU not used by Fedora 31

2020-04-20 Thread Sreyan Chakravarty
> In most of the laptops with additional graphics cards I don't believe > the intel card is even going to be wired to the display at all. I don't think that is the case. The reason being that there is an option to launch programs using "a dedicated graphics card" in Gnome. I think GNOME is using

Re: AMD GPU not used by Fedora 31

2020-04-20 Thread Sreyan Chakravarty
> If you set GNOME session to be Xorg, and configure xorg to use amdgpu, that > would leave mutter on TTY1 (ctrl+alt+f1) runnin on the intel card and your > session on the amdgpu. > > Which sounds kinda nice? > > *But you can edit the /etc/gdm.conf to run on Xorg instead and use the > amgpu. Is

Re: AMD GPU not used by Fedora 31

2020-04-20 Thread Sreyan Chakravarty
> It would seem (from what i can find quickly) that wayland will indeed use > the primary one by default. This can be fixed if you can just disable the > intel one in the bios? I have no option in my BIOS to disable Intel Graphics. There is no option for graphics in my BIOS. > If you want continu

Re: tip: upgrade to 32

2020-04-20 Thread Tim via users
On Sun, 2020-04-19 at 15:08 -0700, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: > But here is the rub. Firefox has been dumped by so many > people over this issue, that it is no longer a serious choice > for anyone who wants a broadly compatible browser. Is it, though? So many people just use whatever came pre