On Mon, 20 Apr 2020 at 15:32, VO <volov...@ziggo.nl> wrote:

> On Mon, 2020-04-20 at 11:11 -0700, Samuel Sieb wrote:
> > On 4/20/20 10:47 AM, AV wrote:
> > > OK the experiment ....(In reply to Samuel Sieb)
> >
> > Looks like your mail server doesn't require a login when you're
> > inside
> > their network.
>
> Wouldn't that be a rather curious situation.
> (And none of the mailers (evolution, geary, thunderbird)
> let me "join" without a password).
> I will have to investigate this.
>

I used pine for many years, and alpine when I end up with
somewhere that has a very slow network (not in the past
couple years).  Alpine always prompted for the password,
but it is cached for a session.

XOAUTH2 is a recent addition for gmail users.    My
mother used a local internet provider for many years.
They were bought out by a larger company that
seemed to be very tightly connected to Google.  That
could have been a unique situation as she lived in
a place where security was taken more seriously
than most small towns (to the point that many of my
emails from non-Goggle accounts were blocked(.

Did you set up a gmail account in alpine?   Does
ziggo.nl let you sign in with your Goggle account?

-- 
George N. White III
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