On 10/29/18 10:30 PM, Tim via users wrote:
We have a prime example in this country of Telstra (a phone company).
They bugger everyone up, customers and systems, with the you'll have to
put up with it, or go to one of the small number of highly similar
competitors. So, no, market forces don't kee
On 10/29/18 10:19 PM, Paul Allen Newell wrote:
On 10/29/2018 09:14 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
On 10/29/18 8:31 PM, Richard England wrote:
On 10/29/18 6:30 PM, Fred Smith wrote:
On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 04:26:46PM -0700, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
On 10/29/18 11:41 AM, Ranjan Maitra
On 10/29/18 6:30 PM, Fred Smith wrote:
Some of us (many businesses) don't want a new version of Linux every six
months, they want systems that will be stable and will run for years
with nothing more than the occasional yum update and more occasional
reboot. People with many computers can't spend
You are right if seen through the glasses of capitalistic mass propaganda
excluding substantial facts. ;)
The fact that MS has cheated customers for ~30 years happily is a nice
proof that "something is wrong" in the capitalism. ;)
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On Mon, 2018-10-29 at 22:20 -0300, George N. White III wrote:
> One of Fedora's business values is the free testing users perform
> for RH. This value has eroded over time. More testing is being
> automated and is often incorported into build systems. These tests
> often originated with end use
Tim:
>> And you can say it about anything. e.g. The commercial phone
>> companies don't exist for people to be able to communicate (what
>> their customers consider their primary purpose to be). They're
>> there to make money and it really doesn't care how well the
>> communications aspect of it
On 10/29/2018 09:14 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
On 10/29/18 8:31 PM, Richard England wrote:
On 10/29/18 6:30 PM, Fred Smith wrote:
On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 04:26:46PM -0700, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
On 10/29/18 11:41 AM, Ranjan Maitra wrote:
On Mon, 29 Oct 2018 10:02:32 -0700 ToddA
On 10/29/18 6:30 PM, Fred Smith wrote:
On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 04:26:46PM -0700, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
The big question is how will IBM look at it. RHEL is pretty much
unusable for newer software as RHEL is so bug riddled and out of
date.
Don't know why you think RHEL is bug riddl
Hi Rick,
Thanks for your quick response.
On Tue, Oct 30, 2018 at 1:26 AM Rick Stevens wrote:
> On 10/29/18 11:31 AM, Danishka Navin wrote:
> > Hi,
> > I have to prepare hundreds of USB sticks which need to either papre as a
> > liveUSB or make it as a installed system (using the USB as the stor
On 10/29/18 8:31 PM, Richard England wrote:
On 10/29/18 6:30 PM, Fred Smith wrote:
On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 04:26:46PM -0700, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
On 10/29/18 11:41 AM, Ranjan Maitra wrote:
On Mon, 29 Oct 2018 10:02:32 -0700 ToddAndMargo via users
wrote:
On 10/29/18 8:12 AM, Eddie
On 10/29/18 6:30 PM, Fred Smith wrote:
On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 04:26:46PM -0700, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
On 10/29/18 11:41 AM, Ranjan Maitra wrote:
On Mon, 29 Oct 2018 10:02:32 -0700 ToddAndMargo via users
wrote:
On 10/29/18 8:12 AM, Eddie O'Connor wrote:
I feel as though I've been k
On 10/30/18 6:57 AM, Ed Greshko wrote:
> This test may not be valid in your environment. What O/S is running on the
> server side?
FWIW, I have a Windows 10 VM that I've resurrected. I shared a folder and used
the same
format entry in the fstab.
It mounts just fine on reboot. Having a bit o
Ifconfig up an interface with an address on your network and then set a
default route so you can get dns resolution and internet access. That's
what I do.
On Mon, Oct 29, 2018, 6:07 PM linux guy wrote:
> Hi all.
>
> I accidentally interrupted a dnf update and messed up the boot process on
> my
On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 04:26:46PM -0700, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
> On 10/29/18 11:41 AM, Ranjan Maitra wrote:
> >On Mon, 29 Oct 2018 10:02:32 -0700 ToddAndMargo via users
> > wrote:
> >
> >>On 10/29/18 8:12 AM, Eddie O'Connor wrote:
> >>>I feel as though I've been kicked in the back of the
On Sun, 28 Oct 2018 at 20:40, Patrick O'Callaghan
wrote:
> I know this is strictly OT, but I suggest it's of some interest to this
> list:
>
>
> https://www.cnbc.com/2018/10/28/ibm-to-acquire-red-hat-in-deal-valued-at-34-billion.html
> O
Fedora users have to be concerned with changes at RH that
I'm experiencing the exact same issue. Anyone know why ?
On Mon, Jul 31, 2017 at 9:12 AM William Oliver wrote:
> On Sun, 2017-07-30 at 09:37 -0400, fred roller wrote:
>
> > However, I've forgotten how to turn on wifi networking from rescue mode.
> >
> > Can anybody point me to a tutorial?
>
> Y
Could this be why IBM is looking at RHEL:
Who was around 1980 and followed what happened to the IBM PC when M$ was
supposed to be writing PCDOS and then OS/2 all with IBM's money.
Now that M$ is starting to look at Linux, IBM is afraid that M$ will own
every server and desktop that isn't runn
On 10/29/18 2:33 PM, Tom H wrote:
As incompetent as IBM's management has been for the last 15 years or
so (and we can safely add paying a 63% premium for RH as its latest
epic fail; desperation...), I find it difficult to believe that IBM'll
kill the successful RH business model.
They sure ruin
yep i hope so, fingerscrossed ;)
On 10/29/18 11:26 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
Maybe IBM will come
up with its own version of an enterprise distribution and keep
using Fedora for its testing ground as well.
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On 10/29/18 12:32 PM, Rick Stevens wrote:
Fedora is the "bleeding edge"
Not all that "Bleeding Edge" Fedora 28 does not even support the latest
Libre Office in is repos. (LO's RPM do work though.)
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On 10/29/18 11:41 AM, Ranjan Maitra wrote:
On Mon, 29 Oct 2018 10:02:32 -0700 ToddAndMargo via users
wrote:
On 10/29/18 8:12 AM, Eddie O'Connor wrote:
I feel as though I've been kicked in the back of the neck.by Bruce
Lee! I don't presume to know the first thing about corporations,
merge
On 10/30/18 5:02 AM, Stephen Morris wrote:
> Sorry Ed, just one more question around this. You mentioned in an earlier
> thread that
> you had the auto-mount process working on a CIFS partition. How did you get
> it to work,
> I can't get it to. Both 'LS /MNT/NAS' and 'SUDO LS /MNT/NAS' fail to m
On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 7:59 PM Samuel Sieb wrote:
>
> Spun off by who?
"By whom" please :)
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On Mon, 29 Oct 2018 19:32:37 + Rick Stevens wrote:
> On 10/29/18 11:52 AM, Walter H. wrote:
> > On 28.10.2018 23:49, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> >> I know this is strictly OT, but I suggest it's of some interest to this
> >> list:
> >>
> >> https://www.cnbc.com/2018/10/28/ibm-to-acquire-red-
does IBM want RedHat because it is competition for Unix?
On 30/10/18 5:52 am, Walter H. wrote:
On 28.10.2018 23:49, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
I know this is strictly OT, but I suggest it's of some interest to this
list:
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/10/28/ibm-to-acquire-red-hat-in-deal-valued-a
On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 3:55 AM ToddAndMargo via users
wrote:
>
> RHEL is defunct, out-of-date garbage.
Garbage? I wonder how many S&P 500 use RHEL and how many use Fedora :)
And if you look at all companies, how many use CentOS and how may use Fedora?
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Hi all.
I accidentally interrupted a dnf update and messed up the boot process on
my server. I got the machine booting to an emergency mode command prompt
via grub2 commands. (Painful !)
I need to run dnf with a network connection to finish fixing things. I
tried grub2-mkconfig, but it needs m
On 10/30/18 4:48 AM, Rick Stevens wrote:
> I'd rather think the "suits" know
> about everything that's RedHat-ish.
I was involved when British Telecom was doing their due diligence of a US based
company
which had offices worldwide. They sent a team of about 20 people to each
office to go
over e
On 10/30/18 4:46 AM, Stephen Morris wrote:
> On 29/10/18 9:15 am, Ed Greshko wrote:
>> On 10/29/18 5:23 AM, Stephen Morris wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I've just noticed that at boot time that the FSTRIM service is
>>> registering a
>>> failure. The failure seems to be because it is trying to trim
On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 2:27 AM Dave Stevens wrote:
> On Sun, 28 Oct 2018 18:20:05 -0600 Joe Zeff wrote:
>> On 10/28/2018 04:49 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
>>>
>>> I know this is strictly OT, but I suggest it's of some interest to
>>> this list:
>>>
>>> https://www.cnbc.com/2018/10/28/ibm-to-a
On 27/10/18 6:15 pm, Ed Greshko wrote:
On 10/27/18 2:46 PM, Stephen Morris wrote:
My main concern with this is not the mounts failing at boot, I can understand
why they
failed, but more why the networkmanager wait online process is failing. I tried
a boot
with the ethernet cable disconnected f
On October 29, 2018 8:48:29 PM UTC, Rick Stevens wrote:
>On 10/29/18 12:56 PM, Richard England wrote:
>> On 10/29/18 10:47 AM, Joshua D Doll wrote:
>>> On October 28, 2018 10:49:46 PM UTC, Patrick O'Callaghan
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I know this is strictly OT, but I suggest it's of some interest
>
On 29/10/18 11:20 am, Chris Murphy wrote:
On Sun, Oct 28, 2018 at 3:23 PM, Stephen Morris
wrote:
Hi,
I've just noticed that at boot time that the FSTRIM service is
registering a failure. The failure seems to be because it is trying to trim
two windows mount points which are on the SSD, th
On 10/29/18 12:56 PM, Richard England wrote:
> On 10/29/18 10:47 AM, Joshua D Doll wrote:
>> On October 28, 2018 10:49:46 PM UTC, Patrick O'Callaghan
>> wrote:
>>
>> I know this is strictly OT, but I suggest it's of some interest to this
>> list:
>>
>>
>> https://www.cnbc.com/2018/10/
On 29/10/18 9:15 am, Ed Greshko wrote:
On 10/29/18 5:23 AM, Stephen Morris wrote:
Hi,
I've just noticed that at boot time that the FSTRIM service is registering
a
failure. The failure seems to be because it is trying to trim two windows mount
points
which are on the SSD, that are mounted
On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 12:53:16PM -0700, stan wrote:
On Mon, 29 Oct 2018 19:32:37 +
Rick Stevens wrote:
Fedora is the "bleeding edge" development arm of RHEL. Eventually,
once enough changes have been made and stabilized in Fedora, it
becomes the next release of RHEL. We Fedora users are
On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 4:23 PM Rick Stevens wrote:
>
> Do big IBM (or any) mainframes still exist?
>
>
Here are the requirements for running RedHat on s/390 mainframes, so, yes
to both:
https://access.redhat.com/documentation/en-us/red_hat_network_satellite/5.4/html/installation_guide/sect-inst
On 10/29/18 10:47 AM, Joshua D Doll wrote:
On October 28, 2018 10:49:46 PM UTC, Patrick O'Callaghan
wrote:
I know this is strictly OT, but I suggest it's of some interest to this
list:
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/10/28/ibm-to-acquire-red-hat-in-deal-valued-at-34-billion.html
p
On Mon, 29 Oct 2018 19:32:37 +
Rick Stevens wrote:
> Fedora is the "bleeding edge" development arm of RHEL. Eventually,
> once enough changes have been made and stabilized in Fedora, it
> becomes the next release of RHEL. We Fedora users are just the lab
> rats and a giant, very vocal and fai
On 10/29/18 11:52 AM, Walter H. wrote:
> On 28.10.2018 23:49, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
>> I know this is strictly OT, but I suggest it's of some interest to this
>> list:
>>
>> https://www.cnbc.com/2018/10/28/ibm-to-acquire-red-hat-in-deal-valued-at-34-billion.html
>>
>>
>> poc
>>
> I guess this
I just hope that Fedora does not become one of those garage distributions.
On 10/29/18 6:41 PM, Ranjan Maitra wrote:
On Mon, 29 Oct 2018 10:02:32 -0700 ToddAndMargo via users
wrote:
On 10/29/18 8:12 AM, Eddie O'Connor wrote:
I feel as though I've been kicked in the back of the neck.by B
On 10/29/18 11:31 AM, Danishka Navin wrote:
> Hi,
> I have to prepare hundreds of USB sticks which need to either papre as a
> liveUSB or make it as a installed system (using the USB as the storage
> when installing fedora).
You can install to a USB stick if you want. Generally, Linux running on
a
On 28.10.2018 23:49, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
I know this is strictly OT, but I suggest it's of some interest to this
list:
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/10/28/ibm-to-acquire-red-hat-in-deal-valued-at-34-billion.html
poc
I guess this won't affect anything on the development of Fedora, RHEL,
Cen
On Mon, 2018-10-29 at 10:00 -0700, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
> On 10/29/18 4:17 AM, j.halif...@seznam.cz wrote:
> > Capitalism is not a good system because of a sum of locally optimal
> > behaviors
> > doesn't need to result in an optimum. Behavior of companies oriented for
> > their
> > maxi
On Mon, 29 Oct 2018 10:02:32 -0700 ToddAndMargo via users
wrote:
> On 10/29/18 8:12 AM, Eddie O'Connor wrote:
> > I feel as though I've been kicked in the back of the neck.by Bruce
> > Lee! I don't presume to know the first thing about corporations,
> > mergers, and long term financials,..
Hi,
I have to prepare hundreds of USB sticks which need to either papre as a
liveUSB or make it as a installed system (using the USB as the storage when
installing fedora).
Regards,
--
Danishka Navin
http://danishkanavin.blogspot.com
http://twitter.com/danishkanavin
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On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 01:21:20AM +0100, Patrick Dupre wrote:
Hello,
How can I get the right display of the character
Σ
with nedit?
I doubt it has much to do with your "nedit" - but probably much more
with your keyboard settings.
Provided you have xmodmap installed: I'd nearly bet this comm
On 10/29/18 10:02 AM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
Wonderfully stated. The announcement took my breath away. I hope
Fedora gets spun off.
Spun off by who? Do you have any idea how much support RedHat provides
to Fedora?
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>On Mon, 29 Oct 2018 10:02:32 -0700
>ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
>
>> I hope
>> Fedora gets spun off.
>
>
>forked?
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On October 28, 2018 10:49:46 PM UTC, Patrick O'Callaghan
wrote:
>I know this is strictly OT, but I suggest it's of some interest to this
>list:
>
>https://www.cnbc.com/2018/10/28/ibm-to-acquire-red-hat-in-deal-valued-at-34-billion.html
>
>poc
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On Mon, 29 Oct 2018 10:02:32 -0700
ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
> I hope
> Fedora gets spun off.
forked?
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On 10/29/18 8:12 AM, Eddie O'Connor wrote:
I feel as though I've been kicked in the back of the neck.by Bruce
Lee! I don't presume to know the first thing about corporations,
mergers, and long term financials, And while Red Hat was a
corporation per se.I've always loved Fedora for b
On 10/29/18 4:17 AM, j.halif...@seznam.cz wrote:
Capitalism is not a good system because of a sum of locally optimal
behaviors
doesn't need to result in an optimum. Behavior of companies oriented for
their
maximal profit causes negative devastating nature, social tensions,
devastating
democrac
I feel as though I've been kicked in the back of the neck.by Bruce Lee!
I don't presume to know the first thing about corporations, mergers, and
long term financials, And while Red Hat was a corporation per
se.I've always loved Fedora for being different, for being the odd
distro that w
On Sun, Oct 28, 2018 at 11:56:45PM -0700, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
On 10/28/18 10:18 PM, Tim via users wrote:
On Sun, 2018-10-28 at 22:01 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote:
The reality is, Red Hat is a publicly traded company and there was
always a very good chance a big fish was going to come eat
Can put a personnel opinion on IBM side of this.
My College became a part of the IBM academic initiative program 5+ years
ago. They provided the service we used free of charge.
My College has a 12 year old mini system that had 256M of Ram and 24G of
disk with a single CPU and was two major versi
Capitalism is not a good system because of a sum of locally optimal
behaviors
doesn't need to result in an optimum. Behavior of companies oriented for
their
maximal profit causes negative devastating nature, social tensions,
devastating
democracy, even criminal overthrowing legally elected gove
On 2018-10-28 at 23:56:45 ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
> On 10/28/18 10:18 PM, Tim via users wrote:
> > On Sun, 2018-10-28 at 22:01 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote:
> >> The reality is, Red Hat is a publicly traded company and there was
> >> always a very good chance a big fish was going to come eat
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