Re: Possible to "dnf upgrade" in a Fedora Gnome without the need to reboot?

2017-09-11 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 09/11/2017 08:34 PM, Tim wrote: With the way Linux is getting worse and worse about this kind of thing, I wonder if we're getting more and more programmers coming over from the Windows world, where they just don't understand what's wrong with that philosophy of computing. That, or it's sabota

Re: Possible to "dnf upgrade" in a Fedora Gnome without the need to reboot?

2017-09-11 Thread Tim
Allegedly, on or about 8 September 2017, Ed Greshko sent: > GNOME is trying to make updates more "user friendly" by doing them > during the reboot phase. If you're adverse to doing reboots then you > need to understand the risks, or problems, with doing things without > rebooting. > > You are su

Re: installing updates not in the background on F26? reboot giving me a 15 min delay...

2017-09-11 Thread Stephen Perkins
I would like to interject for what it's worth: I became frustrated with Gnome 3's implementation. I ran Bodhi Linux for while, but it was too light weight. I returned to Fedora (I've been running Linux since Red Hat 5.1 in 1999, with a few detours to other distros, but not many; I continually ret

Re: installing updates not in the background on F26? reboot giving me a 15 min delay...

2017-09-11 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 09/11/2017 02:20 PM, Peter Teuben wrote: On 09/10/2017 02:42 AM, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 09/09/2017 05:24 PM, Peter Teuben wrote: Installed Fedora-26, which was fast and a snap... now doing the first reboot, since it wanted to install updates. I've been sitting here for literally 15 minutes

Re: installing updates not in the background on F26? reboot giving me a 15 min delay...

2017-09-11 Thread Peter Teuben
On 09/10/2017 02:42 AM, Samuel Sieb wrote: > On 09/09/2017 05:24 PM, Peter Teuben wrote: >> Installed Fedora-26, which was fast and a snap... now doing the first >> reboot, since it wanted to install updates. I've been sitting here for >> literally 15 minutes watching a useless black screen... m

Spamassassin and sa-update/sa-compile

2017-09-11 Thread Jeffrey Ross
System is Fedora 26 and I'm using the spamassassin (and any support applications) supplied with the distribution/repositories. I have sa-update running from /etc/cron.daily using the supplied script "/etc/cron.daily/sa-update.cron" which appears to be working as expected. In an attempt to impr

Re: Upgrade from f19

2017-09-11 Thread Roberto Ragusa
On 09/11/2017 02:00 AM, Eyal Lebedinsky wrote: > I looked at my upgrade history and could see that on another machine I > already kept up: > 19->22 > 22->24 > 24->26 > so I decided to try the same here. I took a full clonezilla backup of the f19 > system... In fact, it is doable, bu