On 09/10/2017 02:42 AM, Samuel Sieb wrote:
> On 09/09/2017 05:24 PM, Peter Teuben wrote:
>> Installed Fedora-26, which was fast and a snap... now doing the first 
>> reboot, since it  wanted to install updates. I've been sitting here for 
>> literally 15 minutes watching a useless black screen... much like how 
>> windows does this..  Is that just an unhappy default, or required. In Ubuntu 
>> they are downloaded as you continue to work, you reboot, and that's usually 
>> quick, and you're back to work, usually that all takes a minute.
>
> That is strange.  The packages would have been downloaded and prepared, then 
> you reboot and they are installed.  I don't remember ever doing the offline 
> updates, but I assumed it would be similar to the release upgrade process 
> where it gives you a progress bar and package counts.  I doubt that a clear 
> black screen is ok.
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I should clarify that there was a percentage counter in (I believe) the top 
left corner, that very slowly went through the percentages of being done. So 
the screen wasn't completely black. 

Eventually it got done.  I played with gnome3, and got sufficiently frustrated 
by the amount of work it takes me to get to a state I'm happy with, including 
noticing a number of the gnome3 extensions that basically don't work (red 
ERROR), and the basic lack of simple tunings (change the timeout of screen 
blanking, focus follows mouse with autoraise, to name a few)....  With the 
impending death of Unity decided to try of KDE... and I'm shocked how easy it 
is to configure. Arguably has more than I need,so I'll play with this.  Unless 
I'm missing something about gnome3, i think these extensions are the wrong way 
to go configure your desktop.

peter
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