I would like to interject for what it's worth: I became frustrated with
Gnome 3's implementation.  I ran Bodhi Linux for while, but it was too
light weight.  I returned to Fedora (I've been running Linux since Red Hat
5.1 in 1999, with a few detours to other distros, but not many; I
continually return to Fedora, and love it.

Then I discovered the Cinnamon desktop, been running it for a couple of
years.  To be honest, I'll never go back.  For my computers, Cinnamon does
what I need with little aggravation (a Netbook Acer i686, and an Asus
X86_64). I update both using dnf and have never had a problem (even going
from F21 to F25).  Red Hat and Fedora are the most stable Linux distros
that I have used.  Kudos!!!  Wish I had bought stock in Red Hat when it
went public :(.  Carry on with the good work.

On Mon, Sep 11, 2017 at 5:20 PM, Peter Teuben <teu...@astro.umd.edu> wrote:

> On 09/10/2017 02:42 AM, Samuel Sieb wrote:
> > On 09/09/2017 05:24 PM, Peter Teuben wrote:
> >> Installed Fedora-26, which was fast and a snap... now doing the first
> reboot, since it  wanted to install updates. I've been sitting here for
> literally 15 minutes watching a useless black screen... much like how
> windows does this..  Is that just an unhappy default, or required. In
> Ubuntu they are downloaded as you continue to work, you reboot, and that's
> usually quick, and you're back to work, usually that all takes a minute.
> >
> > That is strange.  The packages would have been downloaded and prepared,
> then you reboot and they are installed.  I don't remember ever doing the
> offline updates, but I assumed it would be similar to the release upgrade
> process where it gives you a progress bar and package counts.  I doubt that
> a clear black screen is ok.
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> I should clarify that there was a percentage counter in (I believe) the
> top left corner, that very slowly went through the percentages of being
> done. So the screen wasn't completely black.
>
> Eventually it got done.  I played with gnome3, and got sufficiently
> frustrated by the amount of work it takes me to get to a state I'm happy
> with, including noticing a number of the gnome3 extensions that basically
> don't work (red ERROR), and the basic lack of simple tunings (change the
> timeout of screen blanking, focus follows mouse with autoraise, to name a
> few)....  With the impending death of Unity decided to try of KDE... and
> I'm shocked how easy it is to configure. Arguably has more than I need,so
> I'll play with this.  Unless I'm missing something about gnome3, i think
> these extensions are the wrong way to go configure your desktop.
>
> peter
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