On Mon, Sep 1, 2014 at 11:44 AM, Ed Greshko wrote:
> On 09/01/14 14:04, Sudhir Khanger wrote:
>> On Mon, Sep 1, 2014 at 8:44 AM, Ed Greshko wrote:
>>> Yep, so many ways to solve the "problem". Just depends on what the goal of
>>> end user happens to be. At least the most pressing issue for the
On 01.09.2014, Tod Merley wrote:
> So lets say I do see a wrong fingerprint. As in "ghost busting" who am I
> gonna call!?
The person(s) who is/are responsible for the bank/netshop whatever
you're trying to communicate with. In most cases, they could connect
you with whoever operates the websit
On 09/01/14 14:04, Sudhir Khanger wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 1, 2014 at 8:44 AM, Ed Greshko wrote:
>> Yep, so many ways to solve the "problem". Just depends on what the goal of
>> end user happens to be. At least the most pressing issue for the OP has
>> been resolved as the partition no longer moun
On Sun, 2014-08-31 at 22:48 -0700, Tod Merley wrote:
> My test for a bad CMOS battery is simply to load the default CMOS
> values - make sure the machine is NOT turned off - and see if the
> problem goes away - but returns after the machine is turned off (for
> a time).
I've come across computers
Thanks for the spoof response Heinz!
So lets say I do see a wrong fingerprint. As in "ghost busting" who am I
gonna call!?
On Sun, Aug 31, 2014 at 10:53 PM, Heinz Diehl wrote:
> On 01.09.2014, jd1008 wrote:
>
> > As I said, the caveat of all add-on is that they are just as mysterious
> > with
On Mon, Sep 1, 2014 at 8:44 AM, Ed Greshko wrote:
> Yep, so many ways to solve the "problem". Just depends on what the goal of
> end user happens to be. At least the most pressing issue for the OP has been
> resolved as the partition no longer mounts RO.
I find it odd that the ext4 disk is be
On 01.09.2014, jd1008 wrote:
> As I said, the caveat of all add-on is that they are just as mysterious
> with respect to their actual content as FF itself - and for that matter,
> Windows and Linux and Unix/variants, are just as mysterious. I say this
> because even with open source software, doe
Tim:
>> Sensible to me is websites continue to work, with the minimal of
>> tracking being possible. Sensible to others is no tracking, and some
>> sites will fail to work. And to yet others, still, sites work
>> without errors or users having to make decisions about using the
>> sites.
jd1008:
My test for a bad CMOS battery is simply to load the default CMOS values -
make sure the machine is NOT turned off - and see if the problem goes away
- but returns after the machine is turned off (for a time).
HP suggests several things to look at (Joe's suggestion included):
http://h10025.www1.h
On 01.09.2014, Tod Merley wrote:
> General question - can one spoof a certificate? I suppose "man in the
> middle" is simply nasty.
You can't "spoof" a certificate, but create one on your own and
present it as the real one when you're the "man in the middle".
Therefore the fingerprint check. O
On 08/31/2014 09:56 PM, Tod Merley wrote:
cmos battery
That's an easy one to check for, especially on a laptop that's not on
24/7: go into your CMOS settings after it's been turned off for several
hours (overnight should be ample) and see if the clock's running slow.
Computers have been bui
Jd1008 - java - life without it! Possible? Better.
Remember - transactions only on the build.
On Sun, Aug 31, 2014 at 9:17 PM, jd1008 wrote:
>
> On 08/31/2014 09:45 PM, Tim wrote:
>
>> Tim:
>>
>>> Be prepared for various things to fail, you cannot force HTTPS with
sites that are HTTP-on
first silly thoughts:
disk going
cmos battery
oh the joys!
On Sun, Aug 31, 2014 at 7:49 PM, Philip Rhoades wrote:
> Tod,
>
>
> Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2014 15:36:41 -0700
>> From: Tod Merley
>> To: Community support for Fedora users
>> Subject: Re: F20 + Old but unused hardware continually core
On 08/31/2014 09:45 PM, Tim wrote:
Tim:
Be prepared for various things to fail, you cannot force HTTPS with
sites that are HTTP-only.
jd1008:
Actually, the sites that do not support https, simply default to http.
So, such sites are still browsable even with this plugin.
That wouldn't work wi
On Sun, 2014-08-31 at 14:43 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote:
> For now, longer is better. Diceware is recommending 6 word
> passphrases.
I prefer passphrases, too. They're easier to remember, albeit harder to
type. And a large proportion of computer users hate typing, or are just
plain crap at it.
I
Tim:
>> Be prepared for various things to fail, you cannot force HTTPS with
>> sites that are HTTP-only.
jd1008:
> Actually, the sites that do not support https, simply default to http.
> So, such sites are still browsable even with this plugin.
That wouldn't work with various virtually hosted si
On 09/01/14 11:07, Tim wrote:
> On Mon, 2014-09-01 at 07:52 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote:
>> If you want to use a usb disk such that anyone that plugs it in can
>> write to it then you need to use ntfs or another of the wonderful MS
>> filesystems types.
> Or you can make some sub-directories, owned by
On Mon, 2014-09-01 at 07:52 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote:
> If you want to use a usb disk such that anyone that plugs it in can
> write to it then you need to use ntfs or another of the wonderful MS
> filesystems types.
Or you can make some sub-directories, owned by particular users. That's
what I've
Tod,
Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2014 15:36:41 -0700
From: Tod Merley
To: Community support for Fedora users
Subject: Re: F20 + Old but unused hardware continually core dumps
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distrowatch.com search "old computers"
I like Puppy linux as a
Chris,
Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2014 14:00:08 -0600
From: Chris Murphy
To: Community support for Fedora users
Subject: Re: F20 + Old but unused hardware continually core dumps
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On Aug 30, 2014, at 10:12 PM, Philip Rhoades
wrote:
It sort of
On Aug 31, 2014, at 6:55 PM, Chris Murphy wrote:
>
> On Aug 31, 2014, at 4:33 PM, Sudhir Khanger wrote:
>
>> On Monday, September 01, 2014 06:26:56 AM Ed Greshko wrote:
>>> What do you mean by "scrubbed"?
>>
>> http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/saucy/man1/scrub.1.html
>>
>>> Have you trie
On Aug 31, 2014, at 4:33 PM, Sudhir Khanger wrote:
> On Monday, September 01, 2014 06:26:56 AM Ed Greshko wrote:
>> What do you mean by "scrubbed"?
>
> http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/saucy/man1/scrub.1.html
>
>> Have you tried un-mounting and running fsck on the partition?
>
> Disk is pr
On 08/31/2014 05:33 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
If you go back and read the thread you'd find that I'd asked the OP to mount it
manually with -v to see if there were any errors being reported. So, it isn't
odd at all.
Thank you. I'd been wondering if he had a specific need to mount it
that way.
On Aug 31, 2014, at 3:02 PM, Where Where wrote:
>
>
> Greetings everybody!
>
> I'm a new convert to Fedora. I finally got it installed (hurray!) but ran
> into this issue:
> If I lock the screen using mod-L and immediately enter my password to unlock,
> the screen unlocks.
> But if I leave
On 09/01/14 08:22, Joe Z eff wrote:
> On 08/31/2014 05:06 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
>> On 09/01/14 07:52, Ed Greshko wrote:
>>> chown youruser:yourgroup /mnt/test
>>
>> Alternatively, you could make /mnt/test similar to /tmp
>>
>> chmod 1777 /mnt/test
>>
>
> I don't remember how this thread started, bu
On 08/31/2014 05:06 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
On 09/01/14 07:52, Ed Greshko wrote:
chown youruser:yourgroup /mnt/test
Alternatively, you could make /mnt/test similar to /tmp
chmod 1777 /mnt/test
I don't remember how this thread started, but I find it a tad odd that
the drive is being mounted
On 09/01/14 07:52, Ed Greshko wrote:
> chown youruser:yourgroup /mnt/test
Alternatively, you could make /mnt/test similar to /tmp
chmod 1777 /mnt/test
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On 09/01/14 07:34, Sudhir Khanger wrote:
> It didn't do any good. I can't write to the disk without superuser
> previleges.
> Even if that would have made the disk writable I wouldn't want to use two
> commands each time I hook up a usb disk. And it was working before anyways.
you are using a e
On Sun, 2014-08-31 at 16:51 +0200, bitlord wrote:
> This is about Fedora 21 which is still not released!!!
Please post F21 questions or comments on the Fedora Test list, not this
one. Some F21 developers don't even read the Users list.
poc
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On Monday, September 01, 2014 07:25:06 AM Ed Greshko wrote:
> On 09/01/14 07:19, Joe Z eff wrote:
> > On 08/31/2014 04:05 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
> >> On 09/01/14 06:59, Ed Greshko wrote:
> >>> The selinux "warning" is fixed by "restorecon -R /mnt"
> >>
> >> I meant "restorecon -R /mnt/test"Miss
On 09/01/14 07:19, Joe Z eff wrote:
> On 08/31/2014 04:05 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
>> On 09/01/14 06:59, Ed Greshko wrote:
>>> The selinux "warning" is fixed by "restorecon -R /mnt"
>>
>> I meant "restorecon -R /mnt/test"Missed your different mount point. :-(
>>
>
> In this case it didn't matter
On 08/31/2014 04:05 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
On 09/01/14 06:59, Ed Greshko wrote:
The selinux "warning" is fixed by "restorecon -R /mnt"
I meant "restorecon -R /mnt/test"Missed your different mount point. :-(
In this case it didn't matter because you used -R, meaning "recursive."
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On 09/01/14 06:59, Ed Greshko wrote:
> The selinux "warning" is fixed by "restorecon -R /mnt"
I meant "restorecon -R /mnt/test"Missed your different mount point. :-(
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On 09/01/14 06:53, Sudhir Khanger wrote:
> Then I get this error. I tried setenforce 0 but that didn't help.
>
> sudo mount -v /dev/sdb1 /mnt/test
> mount: /mnt/test does not contain SELinux labels.
>You just mounted an file system that supports labels which does not
>contain labels
On Monday, September 01, 2014 06:40:05 AM Ed Greshko wrote:
> And if you mount it manually?
>
> mount -v /dev/sdg1 /mnt
Then I get this error. I tried setenforce 0 but that didn't help.
sudo mount -v /dev/sdb1 /mnt/test
mount: /mnt/test does not contain SELinux labels.
You just mounted an
On 09/01/14 06:33, Sudhir Khanger wrote:
> On Monday, September 01, 2014 06:26:56 AM Ed Greshko wrote:
>> What do you mean by "scrubbed"?
> http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/saucy/man1/scrub.1.html
>
>> Have you tried un-mounting and running fsck on the partition?
> Disk is pretty new and it was
distrowatch.com search "old computers"
I like Puppy linux as a place to start. Probably Wary.
On Sun, Aug 31, 2014 at 1:00 PM, Chris Murphy
wrote:
>
> On Aug 30, 2014, at 10:12 PM, Philip Rhoades wrote:
>
> > It sort of looks like a RAM problem to me but ALL the SIMMS can't be
> faulty . .
>
On Monday, September 01, 2014 06:26:56 AM Ed Greshko wrote:
> What do you mean by "scrubbed"?
http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/saucy/man1/scrub.1.html
> Have you tried un-mounting and running fsck on the partition?
Disk is pretty new and it was in working condition last time I tried it.
sudo
On 09/01/14 05:32, Sudhir Khanger wrote:
> Fedora 20 KDE Thinkpad T420i laptop has started mounting Transcend StoreJet
> 25M3 as read-only. I tried remounting with rw but it is still mounted as ro.
>
> The system is fully updated. I have recently scrub-ed the external drive to
> prepare for backu
Flash drives tend to have firmware ahead of the "drive" access and
sometimes that means that they simply will not work as a boot device.
I am having good luck with Kingston DataTraveler G4 series drives. What I
do to load a Linux (Ubuntu 12 and Fedora 20 tried so far) is to first work
with Gparte
On 08/31/2014 04:02 PM, Tod Merley wrote:
Heinz thanks for reminding me about looking at certificates by
clicking the padlock. I also note that they have the ability to
export and so I suppose a comparison could be made through that as well.
General question - can one spoof a certificate? I
On Sun, Aug 31, 2014 at 15:02:03 -0700,
Tod Merley wrote:
Heinz thanks for reminding me about looking at certificates by clicking the
padlock. I also note that they have the ability to export and so I suppose
a comparison could be made through that as well.
General question - can one spoof a
Heinz thanks for reminding me about looking at certificates by clicking the
padlock. I also note that they have the ability to export and so I suppose
a comparison could be made through that as well.
General question - can one spoof a certificate? I suppose "man in the
middle" is simply nasty.
Well, sounds like my problem with the SanDisk 16GB Xtreme sdhc flash,
which has already been extensively discussed in this list.
On 08/31/2014 03:32 PM, Sudhir Khanger wrote:
Hello,
Fedora 20 KDE Thinkpad T420i laptop has started mounting Transcend StoreJet
25M3 as read-only. I tried remounting
Hello,
Fedora 20 KDE Thinkpad T420i laptop has started mounting Transcend StoreJet
25M3 as read-only. I tried remounting with rw but it is still mounted as ro.
The system is fully updated. I have recently scrub-ed the external drive to
prepare for backup.
[donnie@fedora ~]$ mount | grep /dev/s
On 08/31/2014 01:43 PM, Chris Murphy wrote:
For now, longer is better. Diceware is recommending 6 word passphrases.
I may have mentioned here that I occasionally house sit for a friend who
lives in Studio City. (Some of you might recognize his name, but I'm
not interested in name dropping.)
Greetings everybody!
I'm a new convert to Fedora. I finally got it installed (hurray!) but ran
into this issue:
If I lock the screen using mod-L and immediately enter my password to
unlock, the screen unlocks.
But if I leave my computer be for an hour and unlock, Fedora doesn't accept
my password.
On Aug 30, 2014, at 8:46 PM, Tim wrote:
>
> That sound like the typical USB keyboard problem, that the BIOS can read
> the USB keyboard quite early, but the next thing cannot. Once the
> computer has booted it has drivers loaded to read the USB keyboard, and
> it works. I had to change some US
On Aug 30, 2014, at 10:12 PM, Philip Rhoades wrote:
> It sort of looks like a RAM problem to me but ALL the SIMMS can't be faulty .
> .
They could be. memtest86+ to find out. Another possibility is they're the wrong
SIMMs for the hardware, i.e. wrong timing or voltage. There might be BIOS
se
On Aug 31, 2014, at 9:00 AM, D. Hugh Redelmeier wrote:
> I have an oldish PC that only understands booting from 512-byte
> sectors and then only with MBR disks.
>
> I want to install large new disks on it, and no old disks. These
> don't even pretend to do 512-byte sectors: 4k all the way (3T
On Aug 31, 2014, at 8:50 AM, D. Hugh Redelmeier wrote:
> As I type this, I'm installing Fedora 20 on a UEFI system which already
> has CentOS 7 (and nothing else).
>
> Should the two systems share /boot/efi?
Ideally yes, although it's not required by the UEFI spec.
>
> As I understand it, t
On Aug 28, 2014, at 12:37 PM, Lars E. Pettersson wrote:
> On 08/28/14 20:21, Bruno Wolff III wrote:
>> On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 11:10:54 -0700,
>> Rick Stevens wrote:
>>>
>>> I think you need to reserve some small space on all the drives (and
>>> with 3TB drives you can afford to sacrifice a f
On Aug 28, 2014, at 12:21 PM, Bruno Wolff III wrote:
>
> I think using raid 1 (with the 1.0 header format) can work well for that.
> There can still grub issues with having a boot just work, but at least you
> have the stuff you need available.
GRUB2 can locate vmlinuz/initramfs on md/mdadm r
On Aug 28, 2014, at 11:48 AM, Lars E. Pettersson wrote:
> Hi!
>
> I tried to set up a system using four 3TB disks as a raid6. The disks are
> new, no old partitions laying around. I used a USB stick as install media
> (Fedora 20 x86_64 Gnome Live).
>
> I chose manual partitioning to get ever
| From: Philip Rhoades
| Any ideas what the problem(s) might be? It sort of looks like a RAM problem
| to me but ALL the SIMMS can't be faulty . .
When I have a flaky system, I fire up memtest86+ and let it rip for 12
to 24 hours. I sometimes finds an error. If the memory passes, I no
longer
| From: Ralf Corsepius
| I am not sure, but IIRC, Socket 478-era processor all were 32bit and did not
| support pae.
Socket 478 was for Pentium 4 "Northwood" processors and some later
ones.
PAE was introduced with the Pentium Pro. As far as I know, all P4
processors had PAE.
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On 08/30/2014 08:33 PM, Tim wrote:
On Sat, 2014-08-30 at 18:39 -0600, jd1008 wrote:
3. HttpToHttps
Be prepared for various things to fail, you cannot force HTTPS with
sites that are HTTP-only.
Actually, the sites that do not support https, simply default to http.
So, such sites are still brow
I have an oldish PC that only understands booting from 512-byte
sectors and then only with MBR disks.
I want to install large new disks on it, and no old disks. These
don't even pretend to do 512-byte sectors: 4k all the way (3T and 4T sizes
aren't good for MBR either).
I was thinking that I sho
This is about Fedora 21 which is still not released!!! Please read
carefully. And it is only default on Workstation image (that is what I
know)
There is a new feature introduced in Gnome and NetworkManager which
allows 'Captive Portal'[1] services to work. This may be useful feature
for some user
As I type this, I'm installing Fedora 20 on a UEFI system which already
has CentOS 7 (and nothing else).
Should the two systems share /boot/efi?
As I understand it, the answer is yes: /boot/efi is universal on a
machine. It is where the firmware goes to load things. Not just OS
bootloader: man
On 08/31/2014 04:19 PM, Philip Rhoades wrote:
Which CPU are you using? Unless it's a hardware defect somewhere, I'm
inclined to believe you could be trying to run an incompatible kernel.
Hmmm . . that MB is for Socket478 processors
It would be really helpful if you'd tell us which processor
People,
See inline responses to three replies:
Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2014 17:22:23 +0930
From: Tim
On Sun, 2014-08-31 at 14:12 +1000, Philip Rhoades wrote:
It sort of looks like a RAM problem to me but ALL the SIMMS can't be
faulty
Well, they can... When it comes to recycling, all bets are o
Allegedly, on or about 31 August 2014, Heinz Diehl sent:
> If you don't trust the site at your first use (5.), you should verify
> that the shown information really is genuine by contacting the
> bank/netshop etc..
Who probably won't have a clue about how to respond to such a query
about their SS
On 31.08.2014, Tod Merley wrote:
> Thank you..
You're welcome!
Btw: for those few who do not immediately know how to localize/check the
fingerprint
of the certificate a website is using:
1. Go to the login dialog on the site you wish to enter
2. Don't insert any credentials!
3. Firefox: click
Yes, I think a HW list along with the SW being tried would likely prove
helpful here.
On Sun, Aug 31, 2014 at 1:48 AM, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
> On 08/31/2014 06:12 AM, Philip Rhoades wrote:
>
>> People,
>>
>> I have been trying to build a usable PC out of old - but previously
>> unused hardware
Thank you Heinz for the good suggestions regarding checking certificates
and all. As I think about it I would indeed really like to see a little
program for myself (perhaps a script can do if I can find the right tools)
which examines the entire log in procedure - perhaps "from which IP(s) -
using
On 31.08.2014, Tim wrote:
> Ideally, for things like banking, you really want to know the
> fingerprint ahead of your first use. They should really give you a hard
> copy of what to expect when you set up your account / get a new card.
I've never seen that a bank has recommended checking the ce
On Sat, 2014-08-30 at 19:41 -0700, Tod Merley wrote:
> Ok - considering that this Fedora 20 install and FireFox browser will
> only be used for Internet transactions how would you set it up to do
> it's job well?
Most of them are self evident, if you know what the options mean, and
some are clearl
On 08/31/2014 06:12 AM, Philip Rhoades wrote:
People,
I have been trying to build a usable PC out of old - but previously
unused hardware (motherboards, CPUs, RAM, 80GB Seagate disks, power
supplies) - but whatever combination I use I continually get core dumps
- I have reinstalled on numerous o
On Sat, 2014-08-30 at 20:18 -0700, Tod Merley wrote:
> What sort of security issues are indicated by redirection?
Wasn't me that suggested there were any. It were you that said you
thought they were.
But anyway... If you browse to your bank's domain name, they may bump
you to another address of
On Sun, 2014-08-31 at 09:21 +0200, Heinz Diehl wrote:
> When logging into your bank account (or the like) the very first time,
> make a copy of its certificate/fingerprint. Every time you connect,
> verify the certificates fingerprint first. If it differs,
> take contact with your bank to make sur
On Sun, 2014-08-31 at 14:12 +1000, Philip Rhoades wrote:
> It sort of looks like a RAM problem to me but ALL the SIMMS can't be
> faulty
Well, they can... When it comes to recycling, all bets are off,
particularly if nobody took anti-static precautions while handling the
parts.
But, for the sake
On 31.08.2014, Tod Merley wrote:
> I am simply seeking thoughts on the basic approach, alternatives, other
> things to do to make a secure transaction environment.
When logging into your bank account (or the like) the very first time,
make a copy of its certificate/fingerprint. Every time you co
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