Re: Somewhat OT, but possibly useful to all Fedorites

2014-07-02 Thread g
On 07/02/14 12:24, JD wrote: I have a 2.5" drive, 7200RPM and eSATA 3 (6gbps) drive. If I put it in an enclosure that is eSATA 2 (3gbps), how much impact does it have on the drive's performance using the various i/o throughput benchmarking apps, compared with if the enclosure supported 6gbps?

Re: Strange output of yum history info X

2014-07-02 Thread JD
On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 9:38 PM, 王超 wrote: ​​ > ​On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 11:09 AM, JD wrote: > >> On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 8:54 PM, 王超 wrote: >> >>> Hi everyone, >>> >>> After installing Fedora 20, I switched to tty2 and did a yum update >>> there. The charging splash screen took over the screen at

Re: Strange output of yum history info X

2014-07-02 Thread 王超
Actually, I unplugged the ethernet when yum started to rebuild delta. I don't think it could be the downloading progress since the first warning message shows that the update/installation had already begun. Regards, Wang Chao On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 11:09 AM, JD wrote: > On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at

Re: Strange output of yum history info X

2014-07-02 Thread JD
On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 8:54 PM, 王超 wrote: > Hi everyone, > > After installing Fedora 20, I switched to tty2 and did a yum update there. > The charging splash screen took over the screen at some point and I cannot > switch to any other tty. So I waited until I believe the transcaction is > done an

Strange output of yum history info X

2014-07-02 Thread 王超
Hi everyone, After installing Fedora 20, I switched to tty2 and did a yum update there. The charging splash screen took over the screen at some point and I cannot switch to any other tty. So I waited until I believe the transcaction is done and did a forced shutdown. I rebooted and everything see

Re: Sudden onset ftp problem - can't ftp through vpn

2014-07-02 Thread poma
On 03.07.2014 03:53, Bill Oliver wrote: On Thu, 3 Jul 2014, poma wrote: Yeah, it would be good to hear from the service provider that everything is OK on their side, so you're 120% sure. It is always good practice. poma, Actually, cotse.net is one of the more responsive companies I've dea

Re: postfix starting before network

2014-07-02 Thread David Benfell
Tim writes: Sounds like a good idea to have something by default (i.e. as part the system, not just a user kludge) that looks out for failed services post boot, and tries to get them working after a small delay. I'm about half-way to figuring out how to kludge this with: systemctl --failed |

Re: Sudden onset ftp problem - can't ftp through vpn

2014-07-02 Thread Bill Oliver
On Thu, 3 Jul 2014, poma wrote: Yeah, it would be good to hear from the service provider that everything is OK on their side, so you're 120% sure. It is always good practice. poma, Actually, cotse.net is one of the more responsive companies I've dealt with. They don't do much hand-holdi

Re: DNF Doesn't Appear to Have --skip-broken

2014-07-02 Thread Mike Wright
07/02/2014 06:10 PM, Rick Stevens wrote: On 07/02/2014 03:22 PM, Stephen Morris issued this missive: On 07/02/2014 08:29 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 07/02/14 05:45, Stephen Morris wrote: I'm using Thunderbird which like Ed's is configured to send both text and html. Like Ed said there is po

Re: Somewhat OT, but possibly useful to all Fedorites

2014-07-02 Thread poma
On 03.07.2014 03:01, JD wrote: On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 6:40 PM, poma wrote: On 03.07.2014 02:08, JD wrote: On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 2:46 PM, poma wrote: On 02.07.2014 19:24, JD wrote: I have a 2.5" drive, 7200RPM and eSATA 3 (6gbps) drive. If I put it in an enclosure that is eSATA 2 (

Re: DNF Doesn't Appear to Have --skip-broken

2014-07-02 Thread Rick Stevens
On 07/02/2014 03:22 PM, Stephen Morris issued this missive: On 07/02/2014 08:29 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 07/02/14 05:45, Stephen Morris wrote: I'm using Thunderbird which like Ed's is configured to send both text and html. Like Ed said there is potentially an issue at your end or Rahul's

Re: Sudden onset ftp problem - can't ftp through vpn

2014-07-02 Thread poma
On 03.07.2014 02:28, Bill Oliver wrote: On Wed, 2 Jul 2014, poma wrote: No joy. I have a support call into my virtual machine vendor. I'll see if they have any words of wisdom. billo Which virtual machine vendor? poma Cotse.net billo Yeah, it would be good to hear from the

Re: Sudden onset ftp problem - can't ftp through vpn

2014-07-02 Thread poma
On 03.07.2014 02:51, Bill Oliver wrote: On Wed, 2 Jul 2014, Bill Oliver wrote: No joy. I have a support call into my virtual machine vendor. I'll see if they have any words of wisdom. billo Well, for what it's worth, I still don't know why this happens but: 1) My vendor hasn't changed

Re: Somewhat OT, but possibly useful to all Fedorites

2014-07-02 Thread JD
On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 6:40 PM, poma wrote: > On 03.07.2014 02:08, JD wrote: > >> On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 2:46 PM, poma wrote: >> >> On 02.07.2014 19:24, JD wrote: >>> >>> I have a 2.5" drive, 7200RPM and eSATA 3 (6gbps) drive. If I put it in an enclosure that is eSATA 2 (3gbps),

Re: Sudden onset ftp problem - can't ftp through vpn

2014-07-02 Thread Bill Oliver
On Wed, 2 Jul 2014, Bill Oliver wrote: No joy. I have a support call into my virtual machine vendor. I'll see if they have any words of wisdom. billo Well, for what it's worth, I still don't know why this happens but: 1) My vendor hasn't changed anything recently. 2) On the target mach

Re: Somewhat OT, but possibly useful to all Fedorites

2014-07-02 Thread poma
On 03.07.2014 02:08, JD wrote: On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 2:46 PM, poma wrote: On 02.07.2014 19:24, JD wrote: I have a 2.5" drive, 7200RPM and eSATA 3 (6gbps) drive. If I put it in an enclosure that is eSATA 2 (3gbps), how much impact does it have on the drive's performance using the various i/

Re: Sudden onset ftp problem - can't ftp through vpn

2014-07-02 Thread Bill Oliver
On Wed, 2 Jul 2014, poma wrote: No joy. I have a support call into my virtual machine vendor. I'll see if they have any words of wisdom. billo Which virtual machine vendor? poma Cotse.net billo -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscript

Re: Somewhat OT, but possibly useful to all Fedorites

2014-07-02 Thread JD
On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 2:46 PM, poma wrote: > On 02.07.2014 19:24, JD wrote: > >> I have a 2.5" drive, 7200RPM and eSATA 3 (6gbps) drive. >> >> If I put it in an enclosure that is eSATA 2 (3gbps), >> how much impact does it have on the drive's performance >> using the various i/o throughput bench

Re: firefox defaults to offline

2014-07-02 Thread poma
On 07/02/2014 11:03 PM, Mike Wright wrote: Hi all, Running f20 and firefox 30.0. Firefox now starts in "Offline" mode. This is very annoying to me. I've never found a need to use a browser offline. I've looked at every preference, about:config setting, and I haven't been able to find a way to

Re: firefox defaults to offline

2014-07-02 Thread Mike Wright
07/02/2014 03:42 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Thu, 2014-07-03 at 06:15 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: On 07/03/14 05:03, Mike Wright wrote: Running f20 and firefox 30.0. Firefox now starts in "Offline" mode. This is very annoying to me. I've never found a need to use a browser offline. I've

Re: firefox defaults to offline

2014-07-02 Thread Joe Zeff
On 07/02/2014 03:42 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: Or actually configure NetworkManager consistently. IOW if NM is running, you need to check that it is managing the network interface, otherwise some apps (Evolution being another one) will think the network is down when it isn't. Several years

Re: firefox defaults to offline

2014-07-02 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Thu, 2014-07-03 at 06:15 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 07/03/14 05:03, Mike Wright wrote: > > Running f20 and firefox 30.0. > > > > Firefox now starts in "Offline" mode. This is very annoying to me. I've > > never found a need to use a browser offline. > > > > I've looked at every preference,

Re: DNF Doesn't Appear to Have --skip-broken

2014-07-02 Thread Stephen Morris
On 07/02/2014 08:29 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 07/02/14 05:45, Stephen Morris wrote: I'm using Thunderbird which like Ed's is configured to send both text and html. Like Ed said there is potentially an issue at your end or Rahul's end, as further to what you are seeing when I replied to yo

Re: firefox defaults to offline

2014-07-02 Thread Ed Greshko
On 07/03/14 05:03, Mike Wright wrote: > Running f20 and firefox 30.0. > > Firefox now starts in "Offline" mode. This is very annoying to me. I've > never found a need to use a browser offline. > > I've looked at every preference, about:config setting, and I haven't been > able to find a way to s

Re: postfix starting before network

2014-07-02 Thread David Benfell
Hi all, This is still going awry [root@munich]/home/benfell# systemctl status postfix postfix.service - Postfix Mail Transport Agent Loaded: loaded (/etc/systemd/system/postfix.service; enabled) Active: failed (Result: exit-code) since Wed 2014-07-02 05:00:31 PDT; 9h ago Process: 1

firefox defaults to offline

2014-07-02 Thread Mike Wright
Hi all, Running f20 and firefox 30.0. Firefox now starts in "Offline" mode. This is very annoying to me. I've never found a need to use a browser offline. I've looked at every preference, about:config setting, and I haven't been able to find a way to start firefox in "Online" mode. Any he

Re: Sudden onset ftp problem - can't ftp through vpn

2014-07-02 Thread poma
On 02.07.2014 22:43, Bill Oliver wrote: On Wed, 2 Jul 2014, Rick Stevens wrote: I hit a similar thing on my F19 machine. The fix I had was (as root): echo "0" >/proc/sys/net/ipv4/tcp_sack (I did this on the advice of our in-house network guru) I then added these to the end of my /etc

Re: Fedora 19 - filesystems slow

2014-07-02 Thread poma
On 02.07.2014 09:49, George R Goffe wrote: Hi, I have a Fedora 19 system with several large 2-4TB drives attached via USB-SATA docking stations. I'm seeing a problem whereby a specific filesystem that hasn't been accessed for some time and is REALLY slow to respond to initial requests. ls -al

Re: XFS error during mount

2014-07-02 Thread Chris Murphy
On Jun 30, 2014, at 9:44 PM, Roman Kravets wrote: > [softded@softded ~]$ mount | grep xfs > /dev/mapper/encrypt-store on /mnt/store type xfs > (rw,noatime,nodiratime,attr2,inode64,sunit=1024,swidth=2048,noquota) > [softded@softded ~]$ xfs_info /dev/mapper/encrypt-store > meta-data=/dev/mapper/

Re: Somewhat OT, but possibly useful to all Fedorites

2014-07-02 Thread poma
On 02.07.2014 19:24, JD wrote: I have a 2.5" drive, 7200RPM and eSATA 3 (6gbps) drive. If I put it in an enclosure that is eSATA 2 (3gbps), how much impact does it have on the drive's performance using the various i/o throughput benchmarking apps, compared with if the enclosure supported 6gbps?

Re: Sudden onset ftp problem - can't ftp through vpn

2014-07-02 Thread Bill Oliver
On Wed, 2 Jul 2014, Rick Stevens wrote: I hit a similar thing on my F19 machine. The fix I had was (as root): echo "0" >/proc/sys/net/ipv4/tcp_sack (I did this on the advice of our in-house network guru) I then added these to the end of my /etc/sysctl.conf file so it gets set on the n

Re: Fedora 19 - filesystems slow

2014-07-02 Thread Chris Murphy
On Jul 2, 2014, at 1:49 AM, George R Goffe wrote: > Hi, > > I have a Fedora 19 system with several large 2-4TB drives attached via > USB-SATA docking stations. > > I'm seeing a problem whereby a specific filesystem that hasn't been accessed > for some time and is REALLY slow to respond to in

Re: Fedora 19 - filesystems slow

2014-07-02 Thread Heinz Diehl
On 02.07.2014, Rick Stevens wrote: > I don't know of a way to control either the size of the cache or its > retention period. It might be controllable via a sysctl, but I've never > tried to bugger things like that. Look at parameters which can control the kernels virtual memory management, e.g.

Re: Fedora 19 - filesystems slow

2014-07-02 Thread Rick Stevens
On 07/02/2014 11:36 AM, George R Goffe issued this missive: Rick, Thanks for your info. I'll check this out as well. I have used hdparm -B to get and set the APM values... All the drives including the system drive were set to 128. I have set them to 255 now so we'll see what happens. Actually,

Re: Fedora 19 - filesystems slow

2014-07-02 Thread George R Goffe
Rick, Thanks for your info. I'll check this out as well. I have used hdparm -B to get and set the APM values... All the drives including the system drive were set to 128. I have set them to 255 now so we'll see what happens. Actually, the behavior makes me think of a cache that has been emptied

Re: Sudden onset ftp problem - can't ftp through vpn

2014-07-02 Thread Rick Stevens
On 07/02/2014 06:49 AM, Bill Oliver issued this missive: Another update. It only happens when trying to send to my virtual machine -- I can ftp to at least two other places just fine using vpn. I hit a similar thing on my F19 machine. The fix I had was (as root): echo "0" >/proc/sys/

Re: Fedora 19 - filesystems slow

2014-07-02 Thread Rick Stevens
On 07/02/2014 12:49 AM, George R Goffe issued this missive: Hi, I have a Fedora 19 system with several large 2-4TB drives attached via USB-SATA docking stations. I'm seeing a problem whereby a specific filesystem that hasn't been accessed for some time and is REALLY slow to respond to initial

Somewhat OT, but possibly useful to all Fedorites

2014-07-02 Thread JD
I have a 2.5" drive, 7200RPM and eSATA 3 (6gbps) drive. If I put it in an enclosure that is eSATA 2 (3gbps), how much impact does it have on the drive's performance using the various i/o throughput benchmarking apps, compared with if the enclosure supported 6gbps? (assume that that controller in

Fedora 19 - filesystems slow (George R Goffe)

2014-07-02 Thread George R Goffe
Hi, Thank you for the response. hdparm -B showed the APM settings at 128, even the system drive. I have reset them to 255 and verified that these settings are in place. I will report on the status of this tomorrow. Again, thanks for the response. George... -- users mailing list users@lists

Re: postfix starting before network

2014-07-02 Thread Tim
Allegedly, on or about 01 July 2014, David Benfell sent: > For now, I'm modifying the afflicted service files and adding a cron > job to run systemctl --failed. Sounds like a good idea to have something by default (i.e. as part the system, not just a user kludge) that looks out for failed service

Re: Sudden onset ftp problem - can't ftp through vpn

2014-07-02 Thread Bill Oliver
Another update. It only happens when trying to send to my virtual machine -- I can ftp to at least two other places just fine using vpn. billo -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/us

Re: Sudden onset ftp problem - can't ftp through vpn

2014-07-02 Thread Bill Oliver
On Wed, 2 Jul 2014, Ed Greshko wrote: On 07/02/14 10:51, Ed Greshko wrote: On 07/02/14 09:36, Bill Oliver wrote: 227 Entering Passive Mode (50,7,12,26,124,13) 150 Ok to send data. Hang! Works fine if I don't use a vpn. I run a roundcube server on the same machine, and I can download image

Re: Brother HL-5250DN duplex printing: loves me, loves me not, ...

2014-07-02 Thread Neal Becker
Michael Hannon wrote: > Thanks, Hugh. I enabled the repo, as per your (untested) suggestion, > did the yum update, and voila, I got duplex printing. This was > success with only one document, and if the update is going to break > other things, it hasn't had time to do that. But things look very

Re: Fedora 19 - filesystems slow

2014-07-02 Thread Heinz Diehl
On 02.07.2014, George R Goffe wrote: > I'm seeing a problem whereby a specific filesystem that hasn't been > accessed for some time and is REALLY slow to respond to initial > requests. Looks like there is some power management which puts the device to sleep/spin down. Try disabling that. Also h

Re: Fedora 19 - filesystems slow

2014-07-02 Thread Ed Greshko
On 07/02/14 15:49, George R Goffe wrote: > have a Fedora 19 system with several large 2-4TB drives attached via > USB-SATA docking stations. > > I'm seeing a problem whereby a specific filesystem that hasn't been accessed > for some time and is REALLY slow to respond to initial requests. ls -alt

Re: Brother HL-5250DN duplex printing: loves me, loves me not, ...

2014-07-02 Thread Michael Hannon
Thanks, Hugh. I enabled the repo, as per your (untested) suggestion, did the yum update, and voila, I got duplex printing. This was success with only one document, and if the update is going to break other things, it hasn't had time to do that. But things look very good so far. Thanks again. -

Fedora 19 - filesystems slow

2014-07-02 Thread George R Goffe
Hi, I have a Fedora 19 system with several large 2-4TB drives attached via USB-SATA docking stations. I'm seeing a problem whereby a specific filesystem that hasn't been accessed for some time and is REALLY slow to respond to initial requests. ls -alt for example takes a substantial bit of tim

Re: Brother HL-5250DN duplex printing: loves me, loves me not, ...

2014-07-02 Thread D. Hugh Redelmeier
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