On Mon, 2013-02-18 at 22:39 +, Beartooth wrote:
> On Mon, 18 Feb 2013 15:42:25 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
>
> > On Mon, 2013-02-18 at 17:16 +, Beartooth wrote:
> >>For some time, both Firefox and Seamonkey have been popping up
> >> complaint notices every few seconds; and every
On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 3:52 PM, Gordan Bobic wrote:
> On 02/19/2013 10:00 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
>
>>
>>
> No, my experience does not go as far back 6 years for obvious reasons. My
> exprience with mechanical disks, however, goes as far back as 25 years, and
> I can promise you, they are every
On 02/19/2013 08:23 PM, Tom Horsley wrote:
On a completely separate note: I'll mention that I had lots of
fun problems with my Crucial SSD drive which needed new
firmware to fix.
The most ironic being a bug in the firmware for SMART
support that made it start failing after some specific
number o
On a completely separate note: I'll mention that I had lots of
fun problems with my Crucial SSD drive which needed new
firmware to fix.
The most ironic being a bug in the firmware for SMART
support that made it start failing after some specific
number of hours of operation (if they hadn't tried to
On 02/20/2013 12:43 AM, Digimer wrote:
On 02/19/2013 07:03 PM, Gordan Bobic wrote:
On 02/19/2013 10:54 PM, Digimer wrote:
On 02/19/2013 05:41 PM, Noah Cutler wrote:
I have the 830 and was researching whether or not fstab "discard"
option
was still necessary for SSDs with ext4 partitions.
Appa
On 02/19/2013 07:03 PM, Gordan Bobic wrote:
On 02/19/2013 10:54 PM, Digimer wrote:
On 02/19/2013 05:41 PM, Noah Cutler wrote:
I have the 830 and was researching whether or not fstab "discard" option
was still necessary for SSDs with ext4 partitions.
Apparently it is for most SSDs, except for t
On 02/19/2013 10:41 PM, Noah Cutler wrote:
I have the 830 and was researching whether or not fstab "discard" option
was still necessary for SSDs with ext4 partitions.
Apparently it is for most SSDs, except for the Samsung 840 Pro, which
apparently uses a new technology that conflicts with "disca
On 02/19/2013 10:54 PM, Digimer wrote:
On 02/19/2013 05:41 PM, Noah Cutler wrote:
I have the 830 and was researching whether or not fstab "discard" option
was still necessary for SSDs with ext4 partitions.
Apparently it is for most SSDs, except for the Samsung 840 Pro, which
apparently uses a n
On 02/19/2013 10:00 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
Am 19.02.2013 22:42, schrieb Gordan Bobic:
On 19/02/2013 21:01, Reindl Harald wrote:
Am 19.02.2013 21:55, schrieb Gordan Bobic:
To give you an idea, I have a 24/7 server here, with a 4GB rootfs (ext4, no
journal), including /var/log, and gets
y
On 02/19/2013 03:14 PM, Martín Marqués wrote:
Anyway, had lots of problems with the data so I re-installed Fedora (I
was able to get almost all that was in the /home directory).
If you're planning to start doing backups to a flash drive, consider
reformatting it to ext4. Most Linux backup sof
On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 09:47:09PM -0200, Flavio Leitner wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 02:46:30PM -0500, Paul W. Frields wrote:
> > On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 10:16:09AM -0200, Flavio Leitner wrote:
> > > I would like to see a desktop notification (a flashing tray icon would
> > > be perfect) when
I used my laptop to search out a thread on removing nVidia cruft on the
fedoraforum, because I remembered that it had what looked to be a good
suggestion. It was. I did the following as root:
yum remove *\nvidia*\
rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf
reboot
all of which can be done without network access.
2013/2/19 Fernando Cassia :
> On Sat, Feb 16, 2013 at 8:53 PM, Martín Marqués
> wrote:
>> How can I pass my whole system from an old SATA disk (which is giving
>> me some trouble) to a new disk. I have 4 partitions, all of which I
>> have only passed /home using cp -.a
>
> If you have access to an
On Thu, 2013-02-14 at 21:31 +0100, poma wrote:
> On 02/14/13 14:51, Uematsu Takeshi wrote:
> > I use fedora18 on my desktop machine. I usually connect to the machine
> > with VNC from laptop computer.
> > But I can't unlock the screen when it gets locked.My vnc viewer is TigerVNC.
> >
> > Any sugg
On 02/19/2013 05:41 PM, Noah Cutler wrote:
I have the 830 and was researching whether or not fstab "discard" option
was still necessary for SSDs with ext4 partitions.
Apparently it is for most SSDs, except for the Samsung 840 Pro, which
apparently uses a new technology that conflicts with "disca
I have the 830 and was researching whether or not fstab "discard" option
was still necessary for SSDs with ext4 partitions.
Apparently it is for most SSDs, except for the Samsung 840 Pro, which
apparently uses a new technology that conflicts with "discard"
In the event that you are using it, disc
I am zero for three trying to get fc18 to dual boot. I have a number of systems
with fc16 or fc17 currently dual booting, some with XP as well. In every case,
doing a new install into a new boot and root space, NONE of the existing
installed OS were recognized, only fc18 was left bootable. I als
Jim comcast.net> writes:
>
> Is there any way a Unsecure Wifi connection, one can determine how to
> contact the owner about his connection.
>
> I can't visualise how , but I just thought I would just ask.
Use nmap to find the actual host IP addresses of systems on his network and then
use th
On 02/18/2013 07:30 AM, Kevin Wilson wrote:
> Hi,
> Is there a way to know without entering BIOS, whether your machine supoports
> UEFI or not ? I would appreciate if someone with a machine with UEFI
> support will check whether when running "dmidecode" you see UEFI in the
> output.
>
> Regards,
Jim wrote:
On 02/19/2013 04:07 PM, Steven Stern wrote:
On 02/19/2013 02:41 PM, Joe Zeff wrote:
I used to know a man who'd log onto them, then put a job in their print
queue warning them.
Clever idea! Print out the manual pages for their router with the
security configuration.
How would you
Am 19.02.2013 22:51, schrieb Jim:
> I got his world IP and I used "whois" and it says that it is a "This is a
> Ripe Database query service, The objects
> are in RPSL format"
>
> What is this ??
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whois
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RIPE
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Am 19.02.2013 22:42, schrieb Gordan Bobic:
> On 19/02/2013 21:01, Reindl Harald wrote:
>>
>>
>> Am 19.02.2013 21:55, schrieb Gordan Bobic:
>>> To give you an idea, I have a 24/7 server here, with a 4GB rootfs (ext4, no
>>> journal), including /var/log, and gets
>>> yum updated reasonably regular
Joe Zeff wrote:
On 02/19/2013 12:10 PM, Jim wrote:
Is there any way a Unsecure Wifi connection, one can determine how to
contact the owner about his connection.
I can't visualise how , but I just thought I would just ask.
I used to know a man who'd log onto them, then put a job in their prin
On 02/19/2013 03:56 PM, Todor Petkov wrote:
On 19/02/2013 10:52 PM, Jim wrote:
On 02/19/2013 03:41 PM, Joe Zeff wrote:
On 02/19/2013 12:10 PM, Jim wrote:
Is there any way a Unsecure Wifi connection, one can determine how to
contact the owner about his connection.
I can't visualise how , but
Jim wrote:
On 02/18/2013 07:03 PM, Itamar Reis Peixoto wrote:
On Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 8:58 PM, Jim wrote:
Running fedup from F17 to upgrade to F18, Is this the correct procedure ?
And I get the below Error message.
# fedup-cli --iso /home/jim/Downloads/Fedora-18-i686-Live-KDE.iso
--debuglog
On 19/02/2013 21:01, Reindl Harald wrote:
Am 19.02.2013 21:55, schrieb Gordan Bobic:
To give you an idea, I have a 24/7 server here, with a 4GB rootfs (ext4, no
journal), including /var/log, and gets
yum updated reasonably regularly. It was created in May 2011, and has since
then seen a gran
Kevin Wilson wrote:
Hi,
Is there a way to know without entering BIOS, whether your machine supoports
UEFI or not ? I would appreciate if someone with a machine with UEFI
support will check whether when running "dmidecode" you see UEFI in the output.
Based purely on what I have observed, as oppos
On 02/19/2013 03:26 PM, Jim wrote:
> On 02/19/2013 04:07 PM, Steven Stern wrote:
>> On 02/19/2013 02:41 PM, Joe Zeff wrote:
>>> I used to know a man who'd log onto them, then put a job in their print
>>> queue warning them.
>> Clever idea! Print out the manual pages for their router with the
>> se
On 19/02/2013 11:20 PM, Jim wrote:
On 02/19/2013 03:56 PM, Todor Petkov wrote:
Try to open www.whatismyip.com, look at the IP address and call the
ISP to warn the user.
the IP address that the AP shows is a local 192.168.x.x and is not a
world IP.
You can a private IP from the AP, but t
On 02/19/2013 04:07 PM, Steven Stern wrote:
On 02/19/2013 02:41 PM, Joe Zeff wrote:
I used to know a man who'd log onto them, then put a job in their print
queue warning them.
Clever idea! Print out the manual pages for their router with the
security configuration.
How would you do that ?
Th
On 02/19/2013 03:56 PM, Todor Petkov wrote:
On 19/02/2013 10:52 PM, Jim wrote:
On 02/19/2013 03:41 PM, Joe Zeff wrote:
On 02/19/2013 12:10 PM, Jim wrote:
Is there any way a Unsecure Wifi connection, one can determine how to
contact the owner about his connection.
I can't visualise how , but
On 02/19/2013 02:41 PM, Joe Zeff wrote:
> I used to know a man who'd log onto them, then put a job in their print
> queue warning them.
Clever idea! Print out the manual pages for their router with the
security configuration.
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Am 19.02.2013 21:55, schrieb Gordan Bobic:
> To give you an idea, I have a 24/7 server here, with a 4GB rootfs (ext4, no
> journal), including /var/log, and gets
> yum updated reasonably regularly. It was created in May 2011, and has since
> then seen a grand total of 31GB of
> writes, accordin
On 19/02/2013 10:52 PM, Jim wrote:
On 02/19/2013 03:41 PM, Joe Zeff wrote:
On 02/19/2013 12:10 PM, Jim wrote:
Is there any way a Unsecure Wifi connection, one can determine how
to
contact the owner about his connection.
I can't visualise how , but I just thought I would just ask.
I used to
On 02/19/13 21:35, Reindl Harald wrote:
> sounds like GRUB2 becomes useable somewhere in the future
>
> hopefully we see https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=840204
> fixed too upstrem which is a major break and edit distribution
> files is no sane opton since GRUB2 started to call a turin
On 19/02/2013 20:15, Reindl Harald wrote:
Am 19.02.2013 20:59, schrieb Gordan Bobic:
On 19/02/2013 19:42, Reindl Harald wrote:
Am 19.02.2013 20:24, schrieb Gordan Bobic:
On 19/02/2013 19:05, Reindl Harald wrote:
Am 19.02.2013 20:02, schrieb Gordan Bobic:
what exactly do you need to ali
On 02/19/2013 12:40 PM, Jim wrote:
I do have some very good neighbours and hate to see one hauled off to
jail for something he wasn't aware of.
Another possible problem is having a neighbor connect to your WiFi and
download so much video content that you find yourself hitting your
bandwidth c
On 02/19/2013 03:41 PM, Joe Zeff wrote:
On 02/19/2013 12:10 PM, Jim wrote:
Is there any way a Unsecure Wifi connection, one can determine how to
contact the owner about his connection.
I can't visualise how , but I just thought I would just ask.
I used to know a man who'd log onto them, then
On 02/19/2013 12:31 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
and why in the world are you using the ubuntu-sudo-way
on Fdora if you are konwing it makes problems instead follow
any fedora documentation which states su -c 'command'?
I'm not sure, but I think I've even seen sudo used in some of the Fedora
docum
On 02/19/2013 12:10 PM, Jim wrote:
Is there any way a Unsecure Wifi connection, one can determine how to
contact the owner about his connection.
I can't visualise how , but I just thought I would just ask.
I used to know a man who'd log onto them, then put a job in their print
queue warning
On 02/19/2013 03:13 PM, JOYCE POLZIN wrote:
Is there any way a Unsecure Wifi connection, one can determine how to
contact the owner about his connection.
I can't visualise how , but I just thought I would just ask.
--
Wh
Am 19.02.2013 21:31, schrieb poma:
> On 02/18/13 21:39, Reindl Harald wrote:
> […]
>
>> i would be thankful if even "grub2-mkconfig" would not create
>> this "advanced" submenu at all
>>
> Actually there is a patch proposal at 'grub-devel' by Prarit Bhargava,
> for such a case - disable submenu[
Am 19.02.2013 21:17, schrieb Stephen Morris:
> I do the same thing whereby it doesn't matter whether I run sudo yum upgrade
> or sudo smart upgrade the results
> are the same, the output in menu.cfg is as I described. It seems that the
> structure I have is the standard
> structure built by gru
On 02/18/13 21:39, Reindl Harald wrote:
[…]
> i would be thankful if even "grub2-mkconfig" would not create
> this "advanced" submenu at all
>
Actually there is a patch proposal at 'grub-devel' by Prarit Bhargava,
for such a case - disable submenu[1][2].
>From this I made two for testing dire
On 02/19/2013 06:31 PM, Tim wrote:
On Tue, 2013-02-19 at 07:34 +1100, Stephen Morris wrote:
whereas in F17 there is only a menu entry for the latest kernel, and
all the other kernels are in submenuentry's under an Advanced Fedora
Menuentry?
Not on my Fedora 17 box. I've let it does its updati
Am 19.02.2013 21:12, schrieb Fernando Cassia:
> On Sat, Feb 16, 2013 at 8:53 PM, Martín Marqués
> wrote:
>> How can I pass my whole system from an old SATA disk (which is giving
>> me some trouble) to a new disk. I have 4 partitions, all of which I
>> have only passed /home using cp -.a
>
> If
Am 19.02.2013 20:59, schrieb Gordan Bobic:
> On 19/02/2013 19:42, Reindl Harald wrote:
>>
>>
>> Am 19.02.2013 20:24, schrieb Gordan Bobic:
>>> On 19/02/2013 19:05, Reindl Harald wrote:
Am 19.02.2013 20:02, schrieb Gordan Bobic:
>> what exactly do you need to align on the partit
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Is there any way a Unsecure Wifi connection, one can determine how to
contact the owner about his connection.
I can't visualise how , but I just thought I would just ask.
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What do you want to do? Wardrive around your neighborhood and then start
knocking on doo
On Sat, Feb 16, 2013 at 8:53 PM, Martín Marqués
wrote:
> How can I pass my whole system from an old SATA disk (which is giving
> me some trouble) to a new disk. I have 4 partitions, all of which I
> have only passed /home using cp -.a
If you have access to any system running Windows:
EaseUS Parti
On 02/19/2013 11:56 AM, Gordan Bobic wrote:
And 40 seconds vs 60 seconds to boot up really matters? Really? I find
my machines, laptops included, take longer to POST than they take to
boot up even with mechanical disks, let alone with SSDs.
Exactly. Computers today boot fast enough that it's
Is there any way a Unsecure Wifi connection, one can determine how to
contact the owner about his connection.
I can't visualise how , but I just thought I would just ask.
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On 19/02/2013 19:42, Reindl Harald wrote:
Am 19.02.2013 20:24, schrieb Gordan Bobic:
On 19/02/2013 19:05, Reindl Harald wrote:
Am 19.02.2013 20:02, schrieb Gordan Bobic:
what exactly do you need to align on the partitions?
For a start, making sure your RAID implementation puts the metada
On 19/02/2013 19:08, Joe Zeff wrote:
On 02/19/2013 03:52 AM, Gordan Bobic wrote:
boot-up time fascination is not something for grown-ups to get hung up
about
Unless you're using a laptop/notebook/netbook or you keep your box shut
down when you're not using it,
As a matter of fact - I do.
b
Am 19.02.2013 20:24, schrieb Gordan Bobic:
> On 19/02/2013 19:05, Reindl Harald wrote:
>>
>>
>> Am 19.02.2013 20:02, schrieb Gordan Bobic:
what exactly do you need to align on the partitions?
>>>
>>> For a start, making sure your RAID implementation puts the metadata
>>> at the end of the di
On 19/02/2013 19:05, Reindl Harald wrote:
Am 19.02.2013 20:02, schrieb Gordan Bobic:
what exactly do you need to align on the partitions?
For a start, making sure your RAID implementation puts the metadata
at the end of the disk, rather than the beginning.
"my RAID implementation"?
LINUX S
On 02/19/2013 05:20 AM, jonc wrote:
I've never been wedded to any one interface. For me, Gnome 2 was just
another GUI. My hardware is more than adequate, and Gnome 3 has not
been particularly buggy for me.
For me, bugs were never the issue. The entire UI changed from something
I was comfort
On 02/19/2013 04:01 AM, Gordan Bobic wrote:
Given my experience of Fedora bugs being ignored until the EOL bot
closes them, it suggests that they don't even do that the vast majority
of the time.
Yes. Some of the bugs I reported for F16 ended up with three comments:
one when I reported them a
On 02/19/2013 03:52 AM, Gordan Bobic wrote:
boot-up time fascination is not something for grown-ups to get hung up about
Unless you're using a laptop/notebook/netbook or you keep your box shut
down when you're not using it, boot time isn't very important.
Certainly cutting a few seconds isn't
Am 19.02.2013 20:02, schrieb Gordan Bobic:
>> what exactly do you need to align on the partitions?
>
> For a start, making sure your RAID implementation puts the metadata
> at the end of the disk, rather than the beginning.
"my RAID implementation"?
LINUX SOFTWARE RAID
and this is how the ra
On 19/02/2013 18:53, Reindl Harald wrote:
Am 19.02.2013 19:44, schrieb Heinz Diehl:
On 19.02.2013, Reindl Harald wrote:
and why did you strip the part where i showed you that any of my
filesystems of the last 5 years have a 4 KB blocksize as also
any of my hardware of the last 5 years is "new
On 19/02/2013 18:25, Reindl Harald wrote:
Am 19.02.2013 19:19, schrieb Gordan Bobic:
On 19/02/2013 17:48, Heinz Diehl wrote:
On 19.02.2013, Reindl Harald wrote:
i can not remember when the last ext3/ext4
had 512 bytes blocksize
[]
Most of the "conventional" harddisks have a sectorsize
Still can't find whats wrong with this:
I restart the server, network comes up, but the only interface is lo
(loopback). Eth0 is down, and systemctl status network.service says
the process died. restart with systemctl brings the eth0 up and
network is ok and running.
Any ideas?
2013/2/19 Martín
Am 19.02.2013 19:44, schrieb Heinz Diehl:
> On 19.02.2013, Reindl Harald wrote:
>
>> and why did you strip the part where i showed you that any of my
>> filesystems of the last 5 years have a 4 KB blocksize as also
>> any of my hardware of the last 5 years is "newer"?
>
> Because what you poste
On 19.02.2013, Reindl Harald wrote:
> and why did you strip the part where i showed you that any of my
> filesystems of the last 5 years have a 4 KB blocksize as also
> any of my hardware of the last 5 years is "newer"?
Because what you posted doesn't give any information on how your
partitions
Am 19.02.2013 19:19, schrieb Gordan Bobic:
> On 19/02/2013 17:48, Heinz Diehl wrote:
>> On 19.02.2013, Reindl Harald wrote:
>>
>>> i can not remember when the last ext3/ext4
>>> had 512 bytes blocksize
>> []
>>
>> Most of the "conventional" harddisks have a sectorsize/blocksize of
>> 512/512.
On 19/02/2013 17:48, Heinz Diehl wrote:
On 19.02.2013, Reindl Harald wrote:
i can not remember when the last ext3/ext4
had 512 bytes blocksize
[]
Most of the "conventional" harddisks have a sectorsize/blocksize of
512/512. All the newer and bigger WD/Seagate drives and SSDs are using
"adv
Am 19.02.2013 18:48, schrieb Heinz Diehl:
> On 19.02.2013, Reindl Harald wrote:
>
>> i can not remember when the last ext3/ext4
>> had 512 bytes blocksize
> []
>
> Most of the "conventional" harddisks have a sectorsize/blocksize of
> 512/512. All the newer and bigger WD/Seagate drives and
On 19.02.2013, Reindl Harald wrote:
> i can not remember when the last ext3/ext4
> had 512 bytes blocksize
[]
Most of the "conventional" harddisks have a sectorsize/blocksize of
512/512. All the newer and bigger WD/Seagate drives and SSDs are using
"advanced format", which means 512/4096.
On 19 Feb 2013, at 17:17, Michael Hennebry
wrote:
> On Tue, 19 Feb 2013, jonc wrote:
>
>> partitions, no problems. If you read the docs and the help file, and don't
>> try to shoehorn it into working like old Anaconda, the new UI is OK.
>
> For those of us with *one* computer,
> that present
Am 19.02.2013 18:19, schrieb Ian Malone:
> On 17 February 2013 21:12, Reindl Harald wrote:
>>
>>
>> Am 17.02.2013 22:03, schrieb Heinz Diehl:
>>> On 17.02.2013, Reindl Harald wrote:
>>>
if wouldn't do this and stick with dd / disk images and use gparted
to resize partitions because if
On 17 February 2013 21:12, Reindl Harald wrote:
>
>
> Am 17.02.2013 22:03, schrieb Heinz Diehl:
>> On 17.02.2013, Reindl Harald wrote:
>>
>>> if wouldn't do this and stick with dd / disk images and use gparted
>>> to resize partitions because if i clone machines i want to have
>>> all UUID's the s
On Tue, 19 Feb 2013, jonc wrote:
partitions, no problems. If you read the docs and the help file, and
don't try to shoehorn it into working like old Anaconda, the new UI is OK.
For those of us with *one* computer,
that presents a fundamental problem:
We often discover what docs we need in the
F17 > F18 Failed.
It went to the REBOOT and started upgrade but after upgrade complete it
would only boot into F17 and would go to the login , can't login as user
or root, it comes back to the login each time after entering user name
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On 02/19/2013 10:53 AM, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
It's these "modally tiled UI" which do not meet my "menu-based/multi
workspace" dominated office-workflow and lack of customizability of
the DE. That's why neither Unity, Gnome 3 nor Cinnamon meet my demands.
Ralf
There's a problem with providing a
Am 19.02.2013 16:31, schrieb Heinz Diehl:
> On 18.02.2013, Reindl Harald wrote:
>
>> which misalignment?
>
> Aligment to a 4k blocksize. This is what most of the SSDs and advanced
> format HDDs use. Both your partitions have to be aligned to 4k block
> boundaries and the filesystem you create
On 02/19/2013 02:53 PM, jonc wrote:
On 02/19/2013 08:26 AM, Gordan Bobic wrote:
How many other current distributions not based on Fedora actually use
Gnome 3?
Distos using a DE/distros shipping a DE != Enterprises actively
supporting, financing or actively development of a DE.
That said, fr
> On Sat, Feb 16, 2013 at 7:24 PM, Max Pyziur wrote:
>
>>
>> Greetings,
>>
>> Currently, I'm on my third F18 experience:
>>
[...]
>> Experience #3 - upgrade a home-assembled dual core box from F17 to F18
>> using FedUp.
>>
>> After issueing the following command:
>> fedup-cli --network 18 --deb
On 18.02.2013, Reindl Harald wrote:
> which misalignment?
Aligment to a 4k blocksize. This is what most of the SSDs and advanced
format HDDs use. Both your partitions have to be aligned to 4k block
boundaries and the filesystem you create on top of them must support
the 4k blocksize.
If you do
On 19.02.2013, Patrick Dupre wrote:
> Is a service missing?
Yum install gnome-screensaver could fix it.
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On Thu, 14 Feb 2013 18:26:04 -0500 -- a long time ago --
Jim wrote:
> Fedora 18
>
> Why for HEAVENS did they change the custom partitioning in F18 from
> the F17 and previous versions ?
>
> Is there a Tutorial for Custom Partitioning for Fedora 18 ?
I gotta ask: Did you ever get your drive par
On 02/19/2013 09:07 AM, Gordan Bobic wrote:
In which case it's not unconstrained FOSS development, which you have
been using to justify the "you can have it in any colour as long as
it's black" attitude. You can't have it both ways.
Fedora/RH doesn't equal all of FOSS. Linux is obviously we
On 19/02/2013 14:04, jonc wrote:
On 02/19/2013 08:42 AM, Gordan Bobic wrote:
Yet they are constrained by whatever filters down from Fedora. By the
time it gets to the point of rolling a new EL release, it'd take too
much resources to reverse the course set in Fedora.
I've always assumed that
On 02/19/2013 08:42 AM, Gordan Bobic wrote:
Yet they are constrained by whatever filters down from Fedora. By the
time it gets to the point of rolling a new EL release, it'd take too
much resources to reverse the course set in Fedora.
I've always assumed that the experimentation in Fedora is
On 02/19/2013 08:26 AM, Gordan Bobic wrote:
How many other current distributions not based on Fedora actually use
Gnome 3? I haven't checked because I have no interest in using Gnome
3, but it might be an interesting thing to look into before drawing
any conclusions.
That I can think of? Ope
On 02/19/2013 08:15 AM, Gordan Bobic wrote:
And every system that gives the user a choice along the lines of "you
can have any partitioning you want as long as it's the default one" is
guaranteed to make a pigs ear of most installations, not least because
of file system alignment issues (espe
On 19/02/2013 13:33, jonc wrote:
On 02/19/2013 07:01 AM, Gordan Bobic wrote:
And now you touch upon another important issue. This is more of a
distro maintenance issue. It is also probably why Ubuntu maintainers
pay more attention to such things - because their users are their
_customers_. With
On 02/19/2013 07:01 AM, Gordan Bobic wrote:
And now you touch upon another important issue. This is more of a
distro maintenance issue. It is also probably why Ubuntu maintainers
pay more attention to such things - because their users are their
_customers_. Without those, there's no revenue.
On 19/02/2013 07:44, David wrote:
On 2/19/2013 2:34 AM, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
On 02/18/2013 09:04 PM, jonc wrote:
On 02/18/2013 01:59 PM, Joe Zeff wrote:
On 02/18/2013 03:31 AM, Tom Horsley wrote:
In fact FOSS has no way to tell if the passionate advocates of
nonsense like Gnome 3 are actuall
On 19/02/2013 07:41, Roger wrote:
Not that it matters, and no one is paying me, here's why I'm using
Gnome Shell on Fedora 18, after rejecting it previously:
1. It's fast and reliable.
2. I like the way it looks.
I'll stop here, because many complaints about how it works, mine too,
are a "loo
On 02/19/2013 02:12 AM, Tim wrote:
On Mon, 2013-02-18 at 16:24 -0500, jonc wrote:
Not that it matters, and no one is paying me, here's why I'm using
Gnome Shell on Fedora 18, after rejecting it previously:
1. It's fast and reliable.
2. I like the way it looks.
I'll stop here, because many
On 19/02/2013 04:06, jonc wrote:
On 02/18/2013 10:49 PM, Joe Zeff wrote:
On 02/18/2013 07:32 PM, jonc wrote:
Your tone seems to suggest you think developers owe something to users
("very, VERY justified criticism"). I don't think they do, and I don't
think developers have any more reason to pay
Hi,
I purchased a Plantronics Audio .478 USB headset for using under Fedora
18. The headset is recognized at once, but I have trouble with the
remote control in the cable. There are three buttons, "+" and "-" to
control the headphone volume, and one to mute the mic(*).
The problem is that the
On 19/02/2013 03:55, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
On Mon, 18 Feb 2013 19:49:40 -0800
Joe Zeff wrote:
How about when they replace a program that works fine (anaconda) with
a new version that doesn't do as much and/or is much harder for most
people to use. Do you find that type of criticism justified?
Hello
On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 5:16 PM, Fosiul Alam wrote:
> Hi Expert,
> i just want some guidance about how to setup slave and start the replication.
Refer
https://access.redhat.com/knowledge/docs/en-US/Red_Hat_Directory_Server/9.0/html/Administration_Guide/Managing_Replication.html
https://ac
On 19/02/2013 03:32, jonc wrote:
Should developers pay attention when someone says,"Hey! This is
broken!"? Of course.
Given my experience of Fedora bugs being ignored until the EOL bot
closes them, it suggests that they don't even do that the vast majority
of the time.
Should they pay att
On 19/02/2013 02:17, David wrote:
On 2/18/2013 8:55 PM, Joe Zeff wrote:
On 02/18/2013 05:48 PM, David wrote:
And, after all of the negative, nasty, comments in places like
here/ They switched to some flavor of Ubuntu.
Or, for that matter, they've kept the same distro but switched to a
differe
2013/2/18 Reindl Harald :
>
>
> Am 18.02.2013 23:23, schrieb Martín Marqués:
>> I just finished reinstalling (fresh install from my old F16) my fedora
>> server which ended up with a bad disk.
>>
>> The problem I'm seeing is related to, AFAICS, NetworkManager collision
>> with Network. In this serv
On 19/02/2013 01:48, David wrote:
On 2/18/2013 7:48 PM, Rick Stevens wrote:
On 02/18/2013 04:12 PM, jonc issued this missive:
On 02/18/2013 07:06 PM, Joe Zeff wrote:
I don't think you can take comments on lists or forums to represent the
opinions and experience of average users.
I rather t
Another thing that's happening is that after booting eth0 doesn't come
up (only lo is up abter reboot) automatically. But it does if I do a
"systemctl restart network.service".
2013/2/18 Martín Marqués :
> Not sure, but because of the timeout, after which everythings starts
> working again.
>
> I
On 19 February 2013 08:44, valent.turko...@gmail.com
wrote:
>
> I feel really stupid because I don't seam to be able to operate new firewalld
> on Fedora 18. I'm Fedora user since FC6 but this is beyond me...
>
First thing to check - do you have the FirewallD GUI configuration
tool installed and
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