Re: Fedora 17, Passenger, Postgresl and Apache

On 08/06/2012 09:30 PM, Pete Stieber wrote: Have you tried setenforce 0 to see if the problem is SELinux relates? I take it, then, that you haven't been following the thread about Cargo Cult Sysadminning. Unless the OP's been receiving alerts, there's no particular reason to think that SE

Re: Evolution can't work properly in Fedora 17.

On Mon, 2012-08-06 at 10:48 -0700, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 08/06/2012 07:36 AM, Aaron Konstam wrote: > > I also find evolution 3.4.3 less stable then evolution use to be. My > > solution is to use the backup evolution data option under the file menu. > > I backup periodically, and when things degenera

Re: Proposal request for ideas on naming Fedora releases.

On Tue, 2012-08-07 at 00:48 -0400, Doug wrote: > Well, here's my 2¢: I think naming is dumb, *because* there is no > logical sequence to it--the reader does not know whether the named > version is current, last year's, or 2005's. The naming is in *addition* to the release number. There's no tec

Re: vmlinuz

On Mon, 2012-08-06 at 21:24 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > So, I downloaded the kernel-3.5.0-2.fc17.x86_64.rpm and extracted its > vmlinuz-3.5.0-2.fc17.x86_64 and did a diff of what is on my system and > what is on a VM. They are all identical. Yes, I realise that I mixed up vmlinux and initrd files.

Re: vmlinuz

On Mon, 2012-08-06 at 09:03 -0700, Richard Vickery wrote: > Fwiw, you ought to be placing your comments here in the thread "boot, > linux text" as this is where Dave's comments are. He did, as I did, replied directly to a post. That's where *replies* belong, to the post they're in response to. Y

Re: Proposal request for ideas on naming Fedora releases.

On 08/05/2012 12:32 AM, Richard Vickery wrote: On Fri, Aug 3, 2012 at 8:11 AM, Andrew Haley > wrote: On 08/01/2012 12:51 AM, Timothy Murphy wrote: > Am I the only person who thinks that the whole idea should be dropped? > I never, ever, heard anyone refer

Re: vmlinuz

On Mon, Aug 6, 2012 at 9:29 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 08/07/2012 12:11 PM, Richard Vickery wrote: > > You are emphasising the wrong point. My point is that it is not myself > needing the help, but another person in another thread who everyone was > ignoring until I wrote this one. Beside that it

Re: Cargo Cult sysadmining

On Mon, 2012-08-06 at 15:47 -0500, Steven Stern wrote: > For true Cargo Cult, emulate your internet provider's technical > support. "Please reboot your computer and ... Ah, yes, I forgot that one (reboot every time you change a minor setting). -- [tim@localhost ~]$ uname -r 2.6.27.25-78.2.56.fc

Re: Fedora 17, Passenger, Postgresl and Apache

On 8/5/2012 6:11 PM, Felipe Nunez wrote: I am certainly sure that this list is not the adequate place to try to solve a problem I'm having with the tools Rails 3, Passenger, Postgresl and Apache when working in production environment in Fedora 17. Whenever I try to access an application, usi

Re: Cargo Cult sysadmining

On 2012/08/06 19:17, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 08/06/2012 03:38 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 08/06/2012 01:29 PM, Mateusz Marzantowicz wrote: On 06.08.2012 15:52, Michael Cronenworth wrote: Tim wrote: Just look at the feature list on the documenta

Re: vmlinuz

On 08/07/2012 12:11 PM, Richard Vickery wrote: > You are emphasising the wrong point. My point is that it is not myself > needing the help, but another person in another thread who everyone was > ignoring until I wrote this one. Beside that it is a redundant point to ask a > question on behalf o

Re: Cargo Cult sysadmining

On Mon, 2012-08-06 at 13:06 -0700, Joe Zeff wrote: > It looks like I may have created a new use of Cargo Cult, based on > Cargo Cult Programming. Like a lot of words, the interpretation depends on the person. Some see "cargo cult" as some sort of ritual that must be done for some reason. Other's

Re: vmlinuz

On Mon, Aug 6, 2012 at 6:21 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 08/07/2012 09:07 AM, Richard Vickery wrote: > > On Mon, Aug 6, 2012 at 1:10 PM, Ed Greshko ed.gres...@greshko.com>> wrote: > > > > On 08/07/2012 12:03 AM, Richard Vickery wrote: > > > Fwiw, you ought to be placing your comments here

Re: Cargo Cult sysadmining

Mikkel L. Ellertson: >> Compiling a kernel for a laptop will let you eliminate a lot of >> drivers because you only have limited hardware changes... Michael Cronenworth: > This might have made since in 1999 when Linux was first getting started > and every byte mattered. However, today, with terab

Re: Cargo Cult sysadmining

On Mon, 2012-08-06 at 08:52 -0500, Michael Cronenworth wrote: > I can think of one item you missed from your list: > > Disable IPv6 (disabling it cures cancer!) Actually, I don't have a problem with disabling that. Depending on your reasons, though... In my case, short of replacing my modem/ro

Re: Cargo Cult sysadmining

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 08/06/2012 10:05 PM, Michael Cronenworth wrote: > On 08/06/2012 09:17 PM, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: >> Compiling a kernel for a laptop will let you eliminate a lot of >> drivers because you only have limited hardware changes... > > This might have

Re: Cargo Cult sysadmining

On 08/06/2012 09:17 PM, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: Compiling a kernel for a laptop will let you eliminate a lot of drivers because you only have limited hardware changes... This might have made since in 1999 when Linux was first getting started and every byte mattered. However, today, with ter

Re: Cargo Cult sysadmining

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 08/06/2012 03:38 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 08/06/2012 01:29 PM, Mateusz Marzantowicz wrote: >> On 06.08.2012 15:52, Michael Cronenworth wrote: >>> Tim wrote: Just look at the feature list on the documentation, or websites, and the idiot ad

Re: vmlinuz

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 08/06/2012 08:24 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 08/06/2012 07:43 PM, Tim wrote: >> On Sun, 2012-08-05 at 22:37 -0700, Richard Vickery wrote: >>> is it possible to use an image from another user >> Maybe... >> >> If I recall correctly, it's custom-built

Re: WTF? several anon_inode and /dev/null listings with lsof search

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 08/06/2012 06:47 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 08/07/2012 05:18 AM, rabidblog...@safe-mail.net wrote: >> I've searched the web and cannot find anything which explains these to my satisfaction. > > I don't know But I have lots of them (3496) belong

Re: vmlinuz

On 08/07/2012 09:07 AM, Richard Vickery wrote: > On Mon, Aug 6, 2012 at 1:10 PM, Ed Greshko > wrote: > > On 08/07/2012 12:03 AM, Richard Vickery wrote: > > Fwiw, you ought to be placing your comments here in the thread "boot, > linux text" as this is where D

Re: vmlinuz

On Mon, Aug 6, 2012 at 1:10 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 08/07/2012 12:03 AM, Richard Vickery wrote: > > Fwiw, you ought to be placing your comments here in the thread "boot, > linux text" as this is where Dave's comments are. > > No, I shouldn't. I am answering a comment made by Tim in this threa

Re: WTF? several anon_inode and /dev/null listings with lsof search

On 08/07/2012 05:18 AM, rabidblog...@safe-mail.net wrote: > I've searched the web and cannot find anything which explains these to my > satisfaction. I don't know But I have lots of them (3496) belonging to processes such as kded4, knotify4, konsole, pulseaudio, chrome, thunderbird, and oth

Re: Cargo Cult sysadmining

On 08/06/2012 02:13 PM, Hakan Koseoglu wrote: There are plenty of reasons for disabling SELINUX (well, this one is for RHEL actually but hey, see http://docs.oracle.com/cd/E11882_01/relnotes.112/e23558/toc.htm#CJADHDFJ) and they're valid. On the other hand, it should be set to permissive as discu

Re: Cargo Cult sysadmining

On 2012/08/06 14:13, Hakan Koseoglu wrote: On 6 August 2012 22:05, Joe Zeff wrote: Which means, of course, that you have a good reason for starting out the way you do. Not, IMAO, cargo cult. There are plenty of reasons for disabling SELINUX (well, this one is for RHEL actually but hey, see h

WTF? several anon_inode and /dev/null listings with lsof search

$ lsof | grep anon_inode anon_inode $ lsof | grep dev/null /dev/null I find several anon_inodes and over a dozen /dev/null listings, in some listings for each there are several processes which are repeated. I'm expecting this to be a rootkit, but none of the rootkit scanners find anything. Why

Re: Cargo Cult sysadmining

On 6 August 2012 22:05, Joe Zeff wrote: > Which means, of course, that you have a good reason for starting out the > way you do. Not, IMAO, cargo cult. There are plenty of reasons for disabling SELINUX (well, this one is for RHEL actually but hey, see http://docs.oracle.com/cd/E11882_01/relnotes

Re: Cargo Cult sysadmining

On 08/06/2012 01:59 PM, Steven Stern wrote: I do, but they're generally my problem like copying stuff from ~ into /var/www/html. Occasionally, something more serious. SELINUX has never been completely clean for me. Which means, of course, that you have a good reason for starting out the way

Re: Cargo Cult sysadmining

On 2012/08/06 13:40, Ian Malone wrote: On 6 August 2012 21:06, Joe Zeff wrote: It looks like I may have created a new use of Cargo Cult, based on Cargo Cult Programming. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cargo_cult_programming, http://foldoc.org/cargo+cult) My thought was that disabling SELinux

Re: failed f16 preupgrade, now stuck in grub2 rescue, can't exit [SOLVED]

I finally was able to unfreeze my system, simply by booting from my old knoppix cd and re-installing my grub data-partition to the mbr of the first internal hdisk. first, an additional comment: >the original fail message: >GRUB loading > Welcome to GRUB! >error: no such device: 8f24…

Re: Cargo Cult sysadmining

On 08/06/2012 03:55 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 08/06/2012 01:47 PM, Steven Stern wrote: >> I always start with SELINUX in permissive mode and run that way for a >> couple of weeks while I monitor the messages. > > Permissive mode; not disabled, and you monitor the messages. Just out > of curiosity,

Re: Cargo Cult sysadmining

On 08/06/2012 01:47 PM, Steven Stern wrote: I always start with SELINUX in permissive mode and run that way for a couple of weeks while I monitor the messages. Permissive mode; not disabled, and you monitor the messages. Just out of curiosity, do you generally get some when you first install?

Re: Cargo Cult sysadmining

On 08/06/2012 01:40 PM, Ian Malone wrote: Well, the thing is that SELinux often has effects that aren't particularly obvious. After upgrading to F15 I found I couldn't log in without disabling SELinux. At that point you can either try and fix the problem or ignore it and carry on with SELinux dis

Re: Cargo Cult sysadmining

On 08/06/2012 03:40 PM, Ian Malone wrote: > On 6 August 2012 21:06, Joe Zeff wrote: > >> >> It looks like I may have created a new use of Cargo Cult, based on Cargo >> Cult Programming. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cargo_cult_programming, >> http://foldoc.org/cargo+cult) My thought was that di

Re: Cargo Cult sysadmining

On 6 August 2012 21:06, Joe Zeff wrote: > > It looks like I may have created a new use of Cargo Cult, based on Cargo > Cult Programming. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cargo_cult_programming, > http://foldoc.org/cargo+cult) My thought was that disabling SELinux as a > first step in troubleshooti

Re: Cargo Cult sysadmining

On 08/06/2012 01:29 PM, Mateusz Marzantowicz wrote: On 06.08.2012 15:52, Michael Cronenworth wrote: Tim wrote: Just look at the feature list on the documentation, or websites, and the idiot admins will target them first. And, if you have a desktop that still has normal menus, look through the

Re: Cargo Cult sysadmining

On 06.08.2012 15:52, Michael Cronenworth wrote: > Tim wrote: >> Just look at the feature list on the documentation, or websites, and the >> idiot admins will target them first. And, if you have a desktop that >> still has normal menus, look through the system admin items for more >> ideas. > I can

Re: vmlinuz

On 08/07/2012 12:03 AM, Richard Vickery wrote: > Fwiw, you ought to be placing your comments here in the thread "boot, linux > text" as this is where Dave's comments are. No, I shouldn't. I am answering a comment made by Tim in this thread. -- Programming today is a race between software engi

Re: Cargo Cult sysadmining

On 08/06/2012 04:35 AM, Tim wrote: On Sat, 2012-08-04 at 21:30 -0500, Javier Perez wrote: >Is there any list of Cargo cult sysadmin practices for Fedora? Just look at the feature list on the documentation, or websites, and the idiot admins will target them first. And, if you have a desktop tha

Re: vmlinuz

On Mon, Aug 6, 2012 at 11:28 AM, Suvayu Ali wrote: > On Mon, Aug 06, 2012 at 09:03:16AM -0700, Richard Vickery wrote: > > Fwiw, you ought to be placing your comments here in the thread "boot, > linux > > text" as this is where Dave's comments are. > > > > On Aug 6, 2012 6:25 AM, "Ed Greshko" wrot

Re: vmlinuz

On Mon, Aug 06, 2012 at 09:03:16AM -0700, Richard Vickery wrote: > Fwiw, you ought to be placing your comments here in the thread "boot, linux > text" as this is where Dave's comments are. > > On Aug 6, 2012 6:25 AM, "Ed Greshko" wrote: > > On 08/06/2012 07:43 PM, Tim wrote: > > On Sun,

Re: boot: linux text => "Could not find kernel image: linux"

On Sun, Aug 5, 2012 at 10:54 PM, Ian Malone wrote: > On 6 August 2012 06:20, Richard Vickery wrote: >> On Sun, Aug 5, 2012 at 6:23 PM, Dave Burns wrote: >>> >>> On Sat, Aug 4, 2012 at 5:11 PM, Richard Vickery >>> wrote: >>> > On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 1:26 PM, Dave Burns wrote: >>> >> >>> >> Me c

Re: Evolution can't work properly in Fedora 17.

On 08/06/2012 07:36 AM, Aaron Konstam wrote: I also find evolution 3.4.3 less stable then evolution use to be. My solution is to use the backup evolution data option under the file menu. I backup periodically, and when things degenerate I reload the last backup. If evolution is really that unst

Re: Fedora 17 Upgrade...FINALLY!

I think you should install EasyLife Fedora. It installs códecs and other stuff, is very useful. Regards and hope this helps, Lailah El dom, 05-08-2012 a las 00:38 -0400, Eddie G. O'Connor Jr. escribió: > Ok so FINALLY I've gone ahead and gotten my laptop upgraded to Fedora > 17! But I now am

Re: vmlinuz

Fwiw, you ought to be placing your comments here in the thread "boot, linux text" as this is where Dave's comments are. On Aug 6, 2012 6:25 AM, "Ed Greshko" wrote: > On 08/06/2012 07:43 PM, Tim wrote: > > On Sun, 2012-08-05 at 22:37 -0700, Richard Vickery wrote: > >> is it possible to use an imag

Re: Evolution 3.4.3 mystery]

On Mon, 2012-08-06 at 10:39 -0400, Aaron Konstam wrote: > > Using Evolution 3.4.3 when I go into preferences -> account->edit > There is a click option: Make this account my default account. > If I click that and then click apply the next time I edit the account > that option is not clicked (or c

Re: failed f16 preupgrade, now stuck in grub2 rescue, can't exit

On 04.08.2012, jackson byers wrote: > I am now stuck in an unresponsive grub2: ] > grub rescue > [] > One difficulty is that my f14 is installed to external usb, > but my bios won't boot from usb, so the boot files have to > be put somewhere on my two internal scsi disks, > which works fo

Re: OSDisc USB installer

Try putting a label on the file system; it worked for me; dont know why tho... On Mon, Aug 6, 2012 at 4:59 AM, Zoltan Hoppar wrote: > Greetings, > > I have ordered earlier an linux installer on a 16G pendrive, but > somehow Fedora can't mount it - as it's seems from outside. I tried > almost eve

Re: VDQ : bugzilla trouble

On Sun, 5 Aug 2012 20:20:22 + (UTC), Beartooth wrote: > > The upside of this post is that I haven't had occasion to report > any bugs lately. The downside is that I can no longer seem to follow my > nose to a screen where I can report one. > > On one PC, "yum update" gets me :

Evolution 3.4.3 mystery]

Using Evolution 3.4.3 when I go into preferences -> account->edit There is a click option: Make this account my default account. If I click that and then click apply the next time I edit the account that option is not clicked (or chosen). What has gone wrong -- =

Re: Evolution can't work properly in Fedora 17.

On Mon, 2012-08-06 at 10:02 +0800, Personal wrote: > Hello, > > I am in china. I have a email account in mail.163.com. After i'v > installed Fedora 17,i used evolution to recieve and send email from > imap.163.com and smtp.163.com. Eveything goes well. > > Today, morning , evolution suddenlly d

Re: F17 upgrade with yum

On 08/06/2012 09:30 AM, Mark C. Allman wrote: Mark Haney Software Developer/Consultant AB Emblem ma...@abemblem.com Linux marius.homelinux 3.4.6-1.fc16.x86_64 GNU/Linux It works. I updated four systems. Two Dell laptops (different models), a Lenovo ThinkPad and an eMachines desktop. I fol

Re: failed f16 preupgrade, now stuck in grub2 rescue, can't exit

On Mon, 2012-08-06 at 14:32 +0930, Tim wrote: > On Mon, 2012-08-06 at 00:44 -0400, Eddie G. O'Connor Jr. wrote: > > I'd go "old school" and get a DVD burned iso image and install it THAT > > way, at least THIS way, you'd be assured of getting the LATEST version > > of Fedora without any glitches to

Re: [389-users] how to generate the userpassword

On 08/05/2012 01:15 PM, Fosiul Alam wrote: Hi thanks its works fine. perfectly Thanks for your help You should only pass clear text passwords to the directory server. e.g. in your LDIF: userPassword: thecleartextpassword and let the directory server do the hashing for you. Using pre-hash

Re: Cargo Cult sysadmining

Tim wrote: > Just look at the feature list on the documentation, or websites, and the > idiot admins will target them first. And, if you have a desktop that > still has normal menus, look through the system admin items for more > ideas. I can think of one item you missed from your list: Disable

Re: F17 upgrade with yum

On Mon, 2012-08-06 at 09:24 -0400, Mark Haney wrote: > Since I'm stick in F17 limbo due to the stupid 'dirty filesystem' bug in > the normal upgrade process, it looks like I'm going to have to do an > upgrade via yum. > > Who's done it and what were your experiences? I am planning to do mine

Re: vmlinuz

On 08/06/2012 07:43 PM, Tim wrote: > On Sun, 2012-08-05 at 22:37 -0700, Richard Vickery wrote: >> is it possible to use an image from another user > Maybe... > > If I recall correctly, it's custom-built for your computer's hardware > when the kernel is installed, including the things you need for y

F17 upgrade with yum

Since I'm stick in F17 limbo due to the stupid 'dirty filesystem' bug in the normal upgrade process, it looks like I'm going to have to do an upgrade via yum. Who's done it and what were your experiences? I am planning to do mine on an Samsung netbook that's not quite a year old. It's got pl

Re: failed f16 preupgrade, now stuck in grub2 rescue, can't exit

On Mon, Aug 06, 2012 at 12:44:30AM -0400, Eddie G. O'Connor Jr. wrote: > > EGO II Could you trim your posts to the relevant bits in the future? It makes for easier reading. Cheers, -- Suvayu Open source is the future. It sets us free. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To u

Re: boot: linux text => "Could not find kernel image: linux"

On Mon, Aug 06, 2012 at 09:54:00AM +0100, Ian Malone wrote: > > Something doesn't make sense here, Dave is booting the install disc, I > wouldn't expect there to be any files missing. So far as I can see > from the anaconda documentation "linux text" should work, I can try it > later. What disc is

Re: udisks2: "Error updating SMART data"

On Mon, Aug 06, 2012 at 12:31:38PM +0200, Corinna Vinschen wrote: > Hi, > > since upgrading to Fedora 17 I see messages like this in the log: > > udisksd[22965]: Error performing housekeeping for drive >/org/freedesktop/UDisks2/drives/WDC_WD1500ADFD_00NLR5_WD_WMAP42259780: >Error updatin

Re: OSDisc USB installer

On Monday 06 Aug 2012 13:59:51 Zoltan Hoppar wrote: > Greetings, > > I have ordered earlier an linux installer on a 16G pendrive, but > somehow Fedora can't mount it - as it's seems from outside. I tried > almost everything, but I can't find the drive itself, maybe I have > only missed somehow. Qu

Re: OSDisc USB installer

Silly question perhaps, but are you getting any feedback from the USB itself that it is getting power from the computer? I have run into problems with disconnects in the past, largely related to something being wrong with the physical connection between the USB and its port...often it will be a pro

OSDisc USB installer

Greetings, I have ordered earlier an linux installer on a 16G pendrive, but somehow Fedora can't mount it - as it's seems from outside. I tried almost everything, but I can't find the drive itself, maybe I have only missed somehow. Question is - how can I mount it, and make it viewable in Nautilus

Re: vmlinuz

On Sun, 2012-08-05 at 22:37 -0700, Richard Vickery wrote: > is it possible to use an image from another user Maybe... If I recall correctly, it's custom-built for your computer's hardware when the kernel is installed, including the things you need for your PC to boot. It mightn't have what someo

Re: Cargo Cult sysadmining

On 08/06/2012 02:35 PM, Tim wrote: Disabling SELinux Disabling firewalls Removing Pulseaudio OK for these. Not for the rest. :-P -- RMA. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Gui

Re: Cargo Cult sysadmining

On Sat, 2012-08-04 at 21:30 -0500, Javier Perez wrote: > Is there any list of Cargo cult sysadmin practices for Fedora? Just look at the feature list on the documentation, or websites, and the idiot admins will target them first. And, if you have a desktop that still has normal menus, look throug

udisks2: "Error updating SMART data"

Hi, since upgrading to Fedora 17 I see messages like this in the log: udisksd[22965]: Error performing housekeeping for drive /org/freedesktop/UDisks2/drives/WDC_WD1500ADFD_00NLR5_WD_WMAP42259780: Error updating SMART data: sk_disk_smart_status: Input/output error (udisks-error-quark, 0

Re: Cargo Cult sysadmining

On 08/05/2012 03:30 AM, Javier Perez wrote: > Hi > > Is there any list of Cargo cult sysadmin practices for Fedora? A perennial favourite: * disable, remove and BURN WITH FIRE pulseaudio at the first sign of any sound playback trouble. It doesn't matter if it caused it. It must be purged and pun

Re: boot: linux text => "Could not find kernel image: linux"

On 6 August 2012 06:20, Richard Vickery wrote: > On Sun, Aug 5, 2012 at 6:23 PM, Dave Burns wrote: >> >> On Sat, Aug 4, 2012 at 5:11 PM, Richard Vickery >> wrote: >> > On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 1:26 PM, Dave Burns wrote: >> >> >> >> Me confused. I want to try booting the FC17 install disk in lowre

Re: vmlinuz

On 06.08.2012 07:37, Richard Vickery wrote: > Hi everyone: > > Had a question about a boot image from Dave. I don't know if it is vmlinuz, > but there is a image file missing that prevents him from booting up. Is it > possible to use an image from another user, or does he need to re-install > it? >

Re: Fixing KDE Desktop FC16

Tried to do it but it did not work out. The activity circles where not there at all! :) In the end, I just created a new account, moved all the obvious stuff to the new account (no .files), removed the old account and renamed the new account just like the old one with same passwords and all. Made