pidgin packages outdated

Hi all, Looks like Pidgin/libpurple package is behind the upstream lately, who should I ping about building a fresh one? Thanks -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines:

Re: nscd and DNS cache

On 05/18/2012 01:35 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: > There should not be a configuration for that. If there is, then dnsmasq would > be > going against the recommendations of the DNS RFCs. The response to a DNS > request > includes a TTL (Time To Live). According to the RFC TTL which is the time > t

Re: nscd and DNS cache

On 05/18/2012 01:19 PM, JD wrote: > > > On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 9:46 PM, Gordon Messmer > wrote: > > On 05/17/2012 09:19 PM, JD wrote: > > That's excellent info. contradicts what other people have replied. > > > I also meant to point out that if you select

Re: nscd and DNS cache

On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 9:46 PM, Gordon Messmer wrote: > On 05/17/2012 09:19 PM, JD wrote: > >> That's excellent info. contradicts what other people have replied. >> > > I also meant to point out that if you select nscd rather than a local > caching server, you don't need 127.0.0.1 in resolv.conf

Re: nscd and DNS cache

On 05/17/2012 09:19 PM, JD wrote: That's excellent info. contradicts what other people have replied. I also meant to point out that if you select nscd rather than a local caching server, you don't need 127.0.0.1 in resolv.conf. glibc connects to nscd via a Unix socket rather than via IP. Th

Re: nscd and DNS cache

On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 8:59 PM, Gordon Messmer wrote: > On 05/15/2012 07:11 PM, JD wrote: >> >> I have nscd running. >> /etc/resolv.conf starts out with >> nameserver 127.0.0.1 > > > If you're actually running a local caching name server (bind or dnsmasq), > you don't need nscd.  Running both is

Re: nscd and DNS cache

On 05/15/2012 07:11 PM, JD wrote: I have nscd running. /etc/resolv.conf starts out with nameserver 127.0.0.1 If you're actually running a local caching name server (bind or dnsmasq), you don't need nscd. Running both is overkill. You're going to waste memory by having everything cached in

Connecting HP PSC 1315 Printer to network

Hello, What is the correct way to install the HP PSC 1315 to a network? I purchased a Trendnet TE100-p1u Printer server USB output. I appreciate help I have tried few way but I am getting any where -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options:

Re: The death of Hibernate?

On 17May2012 22:33, Reindl Harald wrote: | i said only suspned-to-disk is unuseable if you have | a modern machine with >= 16 GB RAM or a notebook with | 8 RAM and slow notebook-disks If all this happens _after_ I close the laptop lid I often don't care. Admittedly, I'm using a machine that sleep

Re: The death of Hibernate?

On 05/17/2012 02:13 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 17.05.2012 23:08, schrieb Joe Zeff: If you assume he's talking about his own specific needs, not the general case, what he writes makes much more sense. uhm it is clear and logical for me that i speak about my needs and expierience in the last

Re: The death of Hibernate?

On 17May2012 11:33, Chris Adams wrote: | Windows 7 also has a nice thing that Linux does not: a hybrid mode | between suspend and hibernate. With that, when you suspend, it goes | through the hiberate steps (writing what it needs to disk), but then | puts the system into suspend. If the battery

Re: The death of Hibernate?

On 17May2012 23:52, Steve Underwood wrote: | On 05/17/2012 11:15 PM, Tim wrote: | > On Thu, 2012-05-17 at 08:24 -0500, Michael Cronenworth wrote: | >> Hibernate and suspend are no longer necessary or helpful functions | >> either (on machines sold today). | > I suspend on my Laptop, all the time.

Re: [389-users] Sync with active directory doubts

On 05/17/2012 03:35 PM, Patrick Morris wrote: On 5/17/2012 2:26 PM, Alberto Viana wrote: Hello, I have 2 389 DS servers a 6 AD servers and i read this on red hat documetation about windows replication: "There can only be a single sync agreement between the Directory Server environment and t

Re: The death of Hibernate?

On 17May2012 08:30, Dave Ihnat wrote: | It would make sense to offer the option to disable swap, hibernate, | standby, etc.; but don't remove it from the system. To do so is to say | *you* know better than *I* do how capable my hardware may be; that's | positively Microsoft- or Apple-ish. To be

Re: [389-users] Sync with active directory doubts

On 5/17/2012 2:26 PM, Alberto Viana wrote: Hello, I have 2 389 DS servers a 6 AD servers and i read this on red hat documetation about windows replication: "There can only be a single sync agreement between the Directory Server environment and the Active Directory environment. Multiple sync

Re: The death of Hibernate?

Am 17.05.2012 23:22, schrieb Timothy Murphy: >>> I don't consider Fedora suitable for a server. >> >> your opinion > > and I suspect that of most people who have to make this choice. > >> if you need a recent software stack and have to >> compile all things at your won while libraries >> are ou

[389-users] Sync with active directory doubts

Hello, I have 2 389 DS servers a 6 AD servers and i read this on red hat documetation about windows replication: "There can only be a single sync agreement between the Directory Server environment and the Active Directory environment. Multiple sync agreements to the same Active Directory domain c

Re: The death of Hibernate?

Reindl Harald wrote: >> Michael Cronenworth wrote: Actually I said what you are quoting. >> You are talking nonsense if by "modern" you mean "recent". >> >> My daughter just bought an Asus laptop (1015BX) with 1GB RAM installed, >> and a maximum 2GB RAM installable. > > here is the question wh

Re: The death of Hibernate?

On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 3:24 PM, Michael Cronenworth wrote: > Reindl Harald wrote: >> again: swap may be usefull if you have too few RAM >> on modern machines starting with 8-16 GB this is esotheric > > I agree. With the advent of x86_64 and dirt cheap RAM swap > files/partitions should be phased

Re: The death of Hibernate?

On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 02:08:43PM -0700, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 05/17/2012 01:54 PM, Darryl L. Pierce wrote: > >Then that's not a usable system is it? I'm not talking about the base > >boot speed but the boot speed with everything running. I have none of the > >ones you list below running on my syst

Re: The death of Hibernate?

On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 11:01:34PM +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: > >> you did read the "a lot of services"? > >> disable them and you are around 8-10 seconds on F16 > > > > Then that's not a usable system is it? I'm not talking about the base > > boot speed but the boot speed with everything running

Re: The death of Hibernate?

Am 17.05.2012 23:08, schrieb Joe Zeff: > If you assume he's talking about his own specific needs, not the > general case, what he writes makes much more sense. uhm it is clear and logical for me that i speak about my needs and expierience in the last 10 years for who else could i? signature

Re: The death of Hibernate?

On 05/17/2012 01:54 PM, Darryl L. Pierce wrote: Then that's not a usable system is it? I'm not talking about the base boot speed but the boot speed with everything running. I have none of the ones you list below running on my system exception httpd and my boot time is 10s of seconds, as I said be

Re: The death of Hibernate?

Am 17.05.2012 22:54, schrieb Darryl L. Pierce: > On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 10:44:42PM +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: >> you did read the "a lot of services"? >> disable them and you are around 8-10 seconds on F16 > > Then that's not a usable system is it? I'm not talking about the base > boot speed b

Re: The death of Hibernate?

On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 10:44:42PM +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: > > > Am 17.05.2012 22:37, schrieb Darryl L. Pierce: > >> currently 25 seconds including a lot of services > >> not used on a typical end-user machine > > > > Not so quickly for me. Granted my swap and home partitions are > > encrypt

Re: The death of Hibernate?

On 05/17/2012 01:33 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: WHERE did i say that my way is the only right? Your attitude, your way of expressing yourself and the way you contemptuously dismiss anybody who doesn't agree with you all say it. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe o

Re: The death of Hibernate?

Am 17.05.2012 22:37, schrieb Darryl L. Pierce: >> currently 25 seconds including a lot of services >> not used on a typical end-user machine > > Not so quickly for me. Granted my swap and home partitions are > encrypted, but the password entry is hard a second or two during the > boot process.

Re: The death of Hibernate?

On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 10:33:00PM +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: > i said only suspned-to-disk is unuseable if you have > a modern machine with >= 16 GB RAM or a notebook with > 8 RAM and slow notebook-disks > > someone may find it nice to have his previous desktop > state, but it is NOT faster than

Re: The death of Hibernate?

On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 10:27:55PM +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: > >> i live in the world where someone starts his work in the > >> morining and powers on his computer once each day and > >> have all other machines running 365/7/24 > >> > >> waking up from suspend to disk takes much longer as a cold

Re: The death of Hibernate?

> someone may find it nice to have his previous desktop > state, but it is NOT faster than a cold boot It's faster than a cold boot to the previous desktop state, at least with Gnome 3's crap management of sessions. With Xfce probably it's faster to boot -- users mailing list users@lists.fedor

Re: The death of Hibernate?

Am 17.05.2012 22:29, schrieb Joe Zeff: > On 05/17/2012 01:09 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: >> i live in the world where someone starts his work in the >> morining and powers on his computer once each day and >> have all other machines running 365/7/24 > > Therefor, hibernate is wrong *for you.* Not

Re: The death of Hibernate?

On 05/17/2012 01:09 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: i live in the world where someone starts his work in the morining and powers on his computer once each day and have all other machines running 365/7/24 Therefor, hibernate is wrong *for you.* Not everybody lives in your world; some people find that

Re: The death of Hibernate?

Am 17.05.2012 22:23, schrieb Darryl L. Pierce: > On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 10:09:36PM +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: >> i live in the world where someone starts his work in the >> morining and powers on his computer once each day and >> have all other machines running 365/7/24 >> >> waking up from sus

Re: The death of Hibernate?

On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 10:09:36PM +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: > i live in the world where someone starts his work in the > morining and powers on his computer once each day and > have all other machines running 365/7/24 > > waking up from suspend to disk takes much longer as a cold start Can you

Re: The death of Hibernate?

Am 17.05.2012 22:19, schrieb Alan Cox: > On Thu, 17 May 2012 22:09:36 +0200 > Reindl Harald wrote: >>> My daughter just bought an Asus laptop (1015BX) with 1GB RAM installed, >>> and a maximum 2GB RAM installable. >> >> here is the question why buying crap these days? > > Its a pretty typical l

Re: The death of Hibernate?

On Thu, 17 May 2012 22:09:36 +0200 Reindl Harald wrote: > > > Michael Cronenworth wrote: > > You are talking nonsense if by "modern" you mean "recent". > > > > My daughter just bought an Asus laptop (1015BX) with 1GB RAM installed, > > and a maximum 2GB RAM installable. > > here is the questio

Re: The death of Hibernate?

> Michael Cronenworth wrote: > You are talking nonsense if by "modern" you mean "recent". > > My daughter just bought an Asus laptop (1015BX) with 1GB RAM installed, > and a maximum 2GB RAM installable. here is the question why buying crap these days? my co-worker bought last year a notebook wi

Re: The death of Hibernate?

Michael Cronenworth wrote: >> again: swap may be usefull if you have too few RAM >> on modern machines starting with 8-16 GB this is esotheric > > I agree. With the advent of x86_64 and dirt cheap RAM swap > files/partitions should be phased out. Hibernate and suspend are no > longer necessary or

Re: The death of Hibernate?

On Thu, 2012-05-17 at 23:52 +0800, Steve Underwood wrote: > Quite right. Only someone who never uses a laptop could think hibernate > and suspend are no longer needed. I use hibernate daily on my desktop too. For various reasons, recovering a complete session, for me, can take quite a while. The

Re: The death of Hibernate?

On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 06:08:34PM +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: > > > Am 17.05.2012 17:52, schrieb Steve Underwood: > > On 05/17/2012 11:15 PM, Tim wrote: > >> On Thu, 2012-05-17 at 08:24 -0500, Michael Cronenworth wrote: > >>> Hibernate and suspend are no longer necessary or helpful functions > >

Re: /dev/ttyUSB0 changes to /dev/ttyUSB1

> I have a device, namely a Davis Vantage Pro2 Weather Station Console, > attached to the second USB port on a laptop; the first port is used by a > mouse. Occasionally the port on which the console is visible changes > from /dev/ttyUSB0 to /dev/ttyUSB1. I haven't noticed any reason for > this, i

/dev/ttyUSB0 changes to /dev/ttyUSB1

I have a device, namely a Davis Vantage Pro2 Weather Station Console, attached to the second USB port on a laptop; the first port is used by a mouse. Occasionally the port on which the console is visible changes from /dev/ttyUSB0 to /dev/ttyUSB1. I haven't noticed any reason for this, in particul

Re: F16 Mount Issue

On 05/17/2012 09:54 AM, Bill Davidsen wrote: Jonathan Allen wrote: Hi All, On a fully up-to-date F16 system (as of this morning) I have an issue with remote mounting directories at boot. The machine's /etc/fstab contains these two lines: purse:/share /share nfs rw,rsize=8192,wsize=8192,timeo=1

Re: F16 Mount Issue

Jonathan Allen wrote: Hi All, On a fully up-to-date F16 system (as of this morning) I have an issue with remote mounting directories at boot. The machine's /etc/fstab contains these two lines: purse:/share /share nfs rw,rsize=8192,wsize=8192,timeo=14,intr,addr=192.168.1.10 0 0 mirror:/h

Re: F16 Mount Issue

Tom Horsley wrote: > This will probably get mangled due to a few long lines, but I'll give it > a shot. Tom, It looks good from here. Thanks for saving me from reinventing that wheel. Just the sed incantations would've taken a while to come up with. Regards, Matthew Roth InterMedia Marketi

Re: Execution of /etc/rc.d/rc.local

On Wed, 16 May 2012 15:43:46 -0700 Geoffrey Leach wrote: > Thanks for the tip on synclient > > Restarting nfs services is being done because that was necessary in > order to get a connection from the client. Admittedly that was > several kernels ago :-) Yeah, that seems odd. I'd just let syste

Re: The death of Hibernate?

Am 17.05.2012 18:33, schrieb Chris Adams: > Once upon a time, Reindl Harald said: >> sure? > > Yes. > >> i used a laptop from 2003 until 2011 as my main working machine >> all the day and never came to the idea write a 6 GB to a slow >> mobile-disk and load it the next time instead simply shut

Re: The death of Hibernate?

Once upon a time, Steven Stern said: > Wouldn't it be A Wonderful Thing if a Fedora laptop (or even a Windows > laptop) could suspend and restart as effortlessly as a MacBook? When I > close the lid on my MacBook, I am completely confident it will work when > I pop it back open. My Thinkpad with

Re: F16 Mount Issue

On Thu, 17 May 2012 10:52:15 -0500 (CDT) Matthew J. Roth wrote: > Do you mind sharing that script? It's a great idea for solving a common > problem. This will probably get mangled due to a few long lines, but I'll give it a shot. In the /etc/rc.d/rc.local script I have this line: /usr/local/b

Re: The death of Hibernate?

On 05/17/2012 11:08 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: > > > Am 17.05.2012 17:52, schrieb Steve Underwood: >> On 05/17/2012 11:15 PM, Tim wrote: >>> On Thu, 2012-05-17 at 08:24 -0500, Michael Cronenworth wrote: Hibernate and suspend are no longer necessary or helpful functions either (on machines

Re: The death of Hibernate?

Once upon a time, Reindl Harald said: > sure? Yes. > i used a laptop from 2003 until 2011 as my main working machine > all the day and never came to the idea write a 6 GB to a slow > mobile-disk and load it the next time instead simply shutdown/boot Okay, so you don't want to use hibernate. Do

Re: The death of Hibernate?

Am 17.05.2012 17:52, schrieb Steve Underwood: > On 05/17/2012 11:15 PM, Tim wrote: >> On Thu, 2012-05-17 at 08:24 -0500, Michael Cronenworth wrote: >>> Hibernate and suspend are no longer necessary or helpful functions >>> either (on machines sold today). >> I suspend on my Laptop, all the time.

Re: The death of Hibernate?

Once upon a time, Steve Underwood said: > On 05/17/2012 11:15 PM, Tim wrote: > >On Thu, 2012-05-17 at 08:24 -0500, Michael Cronenworth wrote: > >>Hibernate and suspend are no longer necessary or helpful functions > >>either (on machines sold today). > >I suspend on my Laptop, all the time. Quite

Re: The death of Hibernate?

On 05/17/2012 11:15 PM, Tim wrote: On Thu, 2012-05-17 at 08:24 -0500, Michael Cronenworth wrote: Hibernate and suspend are no longer necessary or helpful functions either (on machines sold today). I suspend on my Laptop, all the time. Quite apart from the speed issue, it's handy to be able to

Re: F16 Mount Issue

Tom Horsley wrote: > Personally, I use a script in rc.local that checks > /proc/mount against /etc/fstab and tries to mount anything > that isn't already mounted - it is the only way I've found > to make network mounts reliable. Seems hit or miss > otherwise. Tom, Do you mind sharing that scrip

Re: Evolution indiexing error

On Thu, 2012-05-17 at 10:31 -0500, Aaron Konstam wrote: > On Thu, 2012-05-17 at 09:57 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > On Thu, 2012-05-17 at 08:19 -0500, Aaron Konstam wrote: > > > In evolution to the left of the screen there is a list of the names of > > > the folders and next to the name in

Re: Evolution indiexing error

On Thu, 2012-05-17 at 09:57 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Thu, 2012-05-17 at 08:19 -0500, Aaron Konstam wrote: > > In evolution to the left of the screen there is a list of the names of > > the folders and next to the name in parenthesis a number representing > > the number of unread messa

Re: [389-users] Strange Disk IO issue

On 05/16/2012 07:48 PM, Brad Schuetz wrote: On 05/16/2012 06:24 PM, Rich Megginson wrote: On 05/16/2012 06:48 PM, Brad Schuetz wrote: Is there any way that I can remove the nsTombstone entries from the master server so I can get this under control? I think I found out why I have so many nsTomb

Re: The death of Hibernate?

On Thu, 2012-05-17 at 08:24 -0500, Michael Cronenworth wrote: > Hibernate and suspend are no longer necessary or helpful functions > either (on machines sold today). I suspend on my Laptop, all the time. Quite apart from the speed issue, it's handy to be able to halt and resume, everything. --

Re: Evolution indiexing error

On Thu, 2012-05-17 at 08:19 -0500, Aaron Konstam wrote: > In evolution to the left of the screen there is a list of the names of > the folders and next to the name in parenthesis a number representing > the number of unread messages in the folder. > > That is working except for Inbox. The number i

Re: The death of Hibernate?

Am 17.05.2012 15:30, schrieb Dave Ihnat: > On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 08:24:50AM -0500, Michael Cronenworth wrote: >> I agree. With the advent of x86_64 and dirt cheap RAM swap >> files/partitions should be phased out. Hibernate and suspend are no >> longer necessary or helpful functions either (on

Re: The death of Hibernate?

On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 08:24:50AM -0500, Michael Cronenworth wrote: > I agree. With the advent of x86_64 and dirt cheap RAM swap > files/partitions should be phased out. Hibernate and suspend are no > longer necessary or helpful functions either (on machines sold today). With all due respect, do

Re: The death of Hibernate?

Reindl Harald wrote: > again: swap may be usefull if you have too few RAM > on modern machines starting with 8-16 GB this is esotheric I agree. With the advent of x86_64 and dirt cheap RAM swap files/partitions should be phased out. Hibernate and suspend are no longer necessary or helpful function

Evolution indiexing error

In evolution to the left of the screen there is a list of the names of the folders and next to the name in parenthesis a number representing the number of unread messages in the folder. That is working except for Inbox. The number is not decremented when a message is read. I did what has worked b

Re: The death of Hibernate?

Am 17.05.2012 14:46, schrieb Jari Fredriksson: > On 17.5.2012 15:36, Reindl Harald wrote: >> >> >> Am 17.05.2012 14:29, schrieb Joel Rees: >>> Do you understand the reason you still set up swap, even though your >>> entire workload working set fits into RAM? >> >> there is no single reason if you

Re: The death of Hibernate?

On 17.5.2012 15:36, Reindl Harald wrote: > > > Am 17.05.2012 14:29, schrieb Joel Rees: >> Do you understand the reason you still set up swap, even though your >> entire workload working set fits into RAM? > > there is no single reason if you have neough RAM > RAM is better used for disk cache

Re: The death of Hibernate?

Am 17.05.2012 14:29, schrieb Joel Rees: >> you can guess how long it takes dump 16 GB to disk and load >> it > > Guess, > > Or calculate? calculate it it takes way too long it may acceptable on machines with real fast RAID10 but they are booting also much faster and are up in 10-15 secon

Re: The death of Hibernate?

Where do we get these recruits? On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 7:35 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: > > > Am 06.03.2012 22:49, schrieb Rex Dieter: >> Geoffrey Leach wrote: >> >>> It appears that among some kernel maintainers there's an opinion that >>> the hibernate (suspend to disk) capability is of insufficie

Re: F16 Mount Issue

On 05/17/2012 06:08 PM, Jonathan Allen wrote: > Hi All, > > On a fully up-to-date F16 system (as of this morning) I have an issue with > remote mounting directories at boot. The machine's /etc/fstab contains > these two lines: > > purse:/share /share nfs > rw,rsize=8192,wsize=8192,timeo=14,intr

Re: F16 Mount Issue

On Thu, 17 May 2012 11:08:08 +0100 Jonathan Allen wrote: > How can I get this to work without manual intervention? Personally, I use a script in rc.local that checks /proc/mount against /etc/fstab and tries to mount anything that isn't already mounted - it is the only way I've found to make netwo

F16 Mount Issue

Hi All, On a fully up-to-date F16 system (as of this morning) I have an issue with remote mounting directories at boot. The machine's /etc/fstab contains these two lines: purse:/share /share nfs rw,rsize=8192,wsize=8192,timeo=14,intr,addr=192.168.1.10 0 0 mirror:/home /home nfs nfsvers=3,r

Re: nscd and DNS cache

On 05/17/2012 03:02 PM, JD wrote: > That was the magic bullett! > Thanx Ed. Welcome... > Strange that Chrome has IPV6 disabled by default, and FF does not. I don't think Chrome has IPv6 disabled...there isn't even a setting for it. I think it just deals with it in a more "intelligent" manner.

Re: /etc/sysconfig/iptables was changed (not by me)

On 05/17/2012 12:25 AM, JD wrote: If I did not change /etc/sysconfig/iptables and render it totally open to accept all connections, then what would change it? Would yum update do that? Fixed /etc/sysconfig/iptables-config -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or cha

Re: nscd and DNS cache

On 05/17/2012 12:21 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 05/17/2012 02:06 PM, JD wrote: That value is already set to false. I'm suggesting you set it to "true" to disable IPv6. Yes I did try Chrome. Chrome resolves domain names as fast as nslookup . After I browsed to a domain using Chrome, and it almost