Cannot boot properly: dbus problems?

Dear Folks, After a power surge and a spontaneous reboot, my 4-core F15 x86_64 machine has been unhappy. I have forced a selinux relabel, and a forcefsck. Symptoms: 1. The graphical boot did not complete: it started Nagios, but cupsd failed to start, and gdm did not start up. 2. I cannot log

Re: Fedora 15 - boot menu

On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 7:28 AM, Ronda Strauch wrote: > Hi, I'm trying to install Fedora 15 from a live CD, but the boot menu did > not appear so I could select "install a new system."  Upon booting, a > message came up that my system didn't support GNOME 3 so it fellback. But > then it continued

Re: Developers responsibillity to Fedora Users

On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 11:30 PM, Terry Barnaby wrote: > But its seems like a lot of people would like Gnome2 back. Why doesn't > someone, > who has a problem with it just rebuild and release Gnome2 for F15 (with a > different package name) ? Apparently it is already being done (sorry, forgot th

proxy_ajp.conf removed

Does anyone know why this was done? I can only see that it happened from the httpd changelog, but no explanation anywhere, or how to create this .conf file. It seems unwise to automatically load this module with no config. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or cha

Fedora 15 - boot menu

Hi, I'm trying to install Fedora 15 from a live CD, but the boot menu did not appear so I could select "install a new system." Upon booting, a message came up that my system didn't support GNOME 3 so it fellback. But then it continued to a blue screen with Applications and Places in a user menu.

Re: install boot sector

On 28 September 2011 02:19, mickey wrote: > F15 > > Setup F15 hard drive on a different computer /dev/sda and sent hard > drive to a friend to put in his computer as /dev/sdb , behind WindowsXp > and went into the rescue mode to run grub-install /dev/sda , getting a > error message; What you mean

Re: Developers responsibillity to Fedora Users

On 09/27/2011 08:58 PM, Kernel Guardian wrote: > After nearly 25 years of life with Unices, almost 20 years with Linux, > nowadays I'm pretty confused about future of Linux. > Allow me to elaborate a bit. > I'm convinced that the Kernel will survive and be better in the long > term future. RedHat a

Re: Developers responsibillity to Fedora Users

After nearly 25 years of life with Unices, almost 20 years with Linux, nowadays I'm pretty confused about future of Linux. Allow me to elaborate a bit. I'm convinced that the Kernel will survive and be better in the long term future. RedHat and IBM as biggest contributors within it and Linus as mai

Re: install boot sector

On 09/27/2011 07:18 PM, mickey wrote: > On 09/27/2011 09:57 PM, JD wrote: >> On 09/27/2011 06:45 PM, mickey wrote: >>> On 09/27/2011 09:00 PM, JD wrote: On 09/27/2011 05:19 PM, mickey wrote: > F15 > > Setup F15 hard drive on a different computer /dev/sda and sent hard > drive t

Re: Developers responsibillity to Fedora Users

On Tue, 2011-09-27 at 15:37 +0200, Ralf Corsepius wrote: > Because the Gnome devs are preferring not to listen to their former > users' complaints and prefer to furtherly isolate themselves in their > "devine ivory cathedral's tower"? Sounds like they've been facebooking... :-\ (I got tired

Re: Developers responsibillity to Fedora Users

On Tue, 2011-09-27 at 11:47 -0400, Darryl L. Pierce wrote: > Given how small the market is for tablets (compared to the server > business) I would find such a statement highly questionable. If Red Hat is still primarily concerned with the server market, then Gnome3 makes even less sense. -- [tim

Re: install boot sector

On 09/27/2011 09:57 PM, JD wrote: > On 09/27/2011 06:45 PM, mickey wrote: >> On 09/27/2011 09:00 PM, JD wrote: >>> On 09/27/2011 05:19 PM, mickey wrote: F15 Setup F15 hard drive on a different computer /dev/sda and sent hard drive to a friend to put in his computer as /dev/sdb ,

Re: install boot sector

On 09/27/2011 06:45 PM, mickey wrote: > On 09/27/2011 09:00 PM, JD wrote: >> On 09/27/2011 05:19 PM, mickey wrote: >>> F15 >>> >>> Setup F15 hard drive on a different computer /dev/sda and sent hard >>> drive to a friend to put in his computer as /dev/sdb , behind WindowsXp >>> and went into the re

Re: install boot sector

On 09/27/2011 09:00 PM, JD wrote: > On 09/27/2011 05:19 PM, mickey wrote: >> F15 >> >> Setup F15 hard drive on a different computer /dev/sda and sent hard >> drive to a friend to put in his computer as /dev/sdb , behind WindowsXp >> and went into the rescue mode to run grub-install /dev/sda , getti

Re: install boot sector

On 09/27/2011 05:19 PM, mickey wrote: > F15 > > Setup F15 hard drive on a different computer /dev/sda and sent hard > drive to a friend to put in his computer as /dev/sdb , behind WindowsXp > and went into the rescue mode to run grub-install /dev/sda , getting a > error message; > > "sdc2 Does not

install boot sector

F15 Setup F15 hard drive on a different computer /dev/sda and sent hard drive to a friend to put in his computer as /dev/sdb , behind WindowsXp and went into the rescue mode to run grub-install /dev/sda , getting a error message; "sdc2 Does not have any corresponding BIOS drive". There is only t

Re: GGoogle chat vs Skype

Hi Michael, On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 3:15 PM, Michael Cronenworth wrote: > Google did not package the RPM properly (which is typical of them). The > RPM calls for "lib4l2.so.0" in a non-arch specific manor, so yum > installs both arches of the libv4l package. It never uses the 32-bit > library. >

Re: GGoogle chat vs Skype

On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 1:19 PM, Aaron Konstam wrote: > On Tue, 2011-09-27 at 10:33 -0700, Darlene Wallach wrote: >> In regards to "Call Phone" on gmail ... >> >> On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 7:08 AM, Aaron Konstam >> wrote: >> > On Tue, 2011-09-27 at 07:41 -0400, Sam Varshavchik wrote: >> >> Timothy

X11 Fails to initialize. ssh + KDE

X was working fine from several clients to several servers. Then it quit, for no (obvious to me) reason. Details here, let me know if you need more info. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=740466 Any ideas on why this is happening ? Thanks ! -- users mailing list users@lists.fedorap

Re: Developers responsibillity to Fedora Users

On 09/27/2011 02:00 PM, Ian Malone wrote: > On 27 September 2011 10:59, Andrew Haley wrote: >> On 09/26/2011 11:59 PM, Roger wrote: > >>> Some say that the new Fedora GUI is unhelpful and possibly difficult to >>> use, preferring a simpler desktop. >> >> Ahh, this is all about GNOME 3. It's very

Re: Building X11R6.8 in Fedora 15 - Flex not found

On 09/27/2011 04:42 PM, Doug Kuvaas wrote: > On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 11:56 PM, Don Quixote de la Mancha > wrote: >> X11 is supposed to be upwards binary compatible. If it won't run old >> applications, you should file a bug with Fedora. If you can figure >> out what the difference is between th

Re: GGoogle chat vs Skype

On Tue, 2011-09-27 at 10:33 -0700, Darlene Wallach wrote: > In regards to "Call Phone" on gmail ... > > On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 7:08 AM, Aaron Konstam wrote: > > On Tue, 2011-09-27 at 07:41 -0400, Sam Varshavchik wrote: > >> Timothy Murphy writes: > >> > >> > Pardon my ignorance, but how does one

Re: Developers responsibillity to Fedora Users

> On 09/27/2011 08:00 AM, Ian Malone wrote: >> On 27 September 2011 14:37, Ralf Corsepius wrote: >> Because the Gnome devs are preferring not to listen to their former users' complaints and prefer to furtherly isolate themselves in their "devine ivory cathedral's tower"? >>

Re: Comparitive Desktop Environments

On 09/27/2011 08:00 AM, Aaron Konstam wrote: > OK, I blew it. In Gnome 3 you change the background by going to the > Background application. So I don't know where the Preferences-> Desktop > -> Background comes from in XFCE and LDXE but in any case it does not > work. For me, at least, the easie

Re: Developers responsibillity to Fedora Users

On 09/27/2011 08:00 AM, Ian Malone wrote: > On 27 September 2011 14:37, Ralf Corsepius wrote: > >> > Because the Gnome devs are preferring not to listen to their former >> > users' complaints and prefer to furtherly isolate themselves in their >> > "devine ivory cathedral's tower"? >> > > Can't

Re: Developers responsibillity to Fedora Users

On 09/27/2011 06:37 AM, Ralf Corsepius wrote: > Like others said before, in comparison to Gnome2, xfce looks like lego > and is a step backward, but it at least is not as unusable as Gnome3. > > To me, using xfce so far is the bitter pill to swallow and the only > viable alternative to avoid having

Re: GGoogle chat vs Skype

In regards to "Call Phone" on gmail ... On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 7:08 AM, Aaron Konstam wrote: > On Tue, 2011-09-27 at 07:41 -0400, Sam Varshavchik wrote: >> Timothy Murphy writes: >> >> > Pardon my ignorance, but how does one use Google Chat? >> > >> > I've downloaded google-talkplugin_current_i3

Re: GGoogle chat vs Skype

On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 4:16 PM, Aaron Gray wrote: > This is well worth looking at, it was GNU SIP Communicator :- >     http://jitsi.org/ > It supports lots of formats, including Facebook, Google and Skype I believe. Somehow I doubt Skype is supported. ;-) Best, :-) Marko -- users mailing list

Re: Comparitive Desktop Environments

On 09/27/2011 08:00 AM, Aaron Konstam wrote: > On Tue, 2011-09-27 at 09:44 -0500, Aaron Konstam wrote: >> On Mon, 2011-09-26 at 14:08 -0700, Rick Stevens wrote: >>> On 09/26/2011 01:48 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 09/26/2011 01:35 PM, Bob Goodwin wrote: > If I understand, right clic

Re: Firefox 6.02, Fedora 15 "browser offline"

On 09/27/2011 03:33 AM, Frank Murphy wrote: > Back to getting "browser offline" > when network is fine. > Other browsers work. > > tried "about:config - browser.offline toggled the value to false. > Still starts offline. > You might try looking through the Firefox support forum at http://support.

Re: Developers responsibillity to Fedora Users

On 09/27/2011 05:43 PM, Nalin Dahyabhai wrote: > On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 05:34:25PM +0200, Ralf Corsepius wrote: >> Yes, RHAT is Red Hat's stock exchange short cut. > > Not for a few years now. It's been RHT since late in 2006. OK, I stay corrected. What you say matches what http://en.wikipedia.

Re: Upgrading to kde-4.7 on FC 14

George R Goffe wrote: > I'm trying to figure out how to upgrade to KDE-4.7 on my FC 14 system. The kde-sig considered doing so (like what was done to provide kde-4.7.x unofficially for f15), but there were a handful of f14 low-level system libraries that were too old to support kde-4.7 properly

Re: Developers responsibillity to Fedora Users

On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 05:34:25PM +0200, Ralf Corsepius wrote: > On 09/27/2011 05:00 PM, Ian Malone wrote: > > On 27 September 2011 14:37, Ralf Corsepius wrote: > > > >> Because the Gnome devs are preferring not to listen to their former > >> users' complaints and prefer to furtherly isolate them

Re: Developers responsibillity to Fedora Users

On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 05:34:25PM +0200, Ralf Corsepius wrote: > Yes, RHAT is Red Hat's stock exchange short cut. Not for a few years now. It's been RHT since late in 2006. Cheers, Nalin -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https:/

Re: Building X11R6.8 in Fedora 15 - Flex not found

On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 11:56 PM, Don Quixote de la Mancha wrote: > X11 is supposed to be upwards binary compatible.  If it won't run old > applications, you should file a bug with Fedora.  If you can figure > out what the difference is between the old X and the new X that > enables your app to ru

Re: Developers responsibillity to Fedora Users

On 09/27/2011 05:00 PM, Ian Malone wrote: > On 27 September 2011 14:37, Ralf Corsepius wrote: > >> Because the Gnome devs are preferring not to listen to their former >> users' complaints and prefer to furtherly isolate themselves in their >> "devine ivory cathedral's tower"? >> > > Can't really s

Re: gdesklets

Thx for your reply! That sounds not rely good with regard to gdesklets. Also because i like the desktop extensions of gdesklets. Does anyone know if there is another applications by which you can add weather, notices and stuff like that on the desktop, because in the gnome-extensions i could n

Re: Comparitive Desktop Environments

On Tue, 2011-09-27 at 09:44 -0500, Aaron Konstam wrote: > On Mon, 2011-09-26 at 14:08 -0700, Rick Stevens wrote: > > On 09/26/2011 01:48 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: > > > On 09/26/2011 01:35 PM, Bob Goodwin wrote: > > >> If I understand, right click on desk top or terminal to > > >>

Re: Developers responsibillity to Fedora Users

On 27 September 2011 14:37, Ralf Corsepius wrote: > Because the Gnome devs are preferring not to listen to their former > users' complaints and prefer to furtherly isolate themselves in their > "devine ivory cathedral's tower"? > Can't really say this until we've been through a few iterations of

Re: Firefox 6.02, Fedora 15 "browser offline"

On 9/27/2011 10:29 AM, Frank Murphy wrote: > On 27/09/11 15:14, David wrote: >> On 9/27/2011 6:33 AM, Frank Murphy wrote: >>> browser offline >> >> "Linux Solutions: Why does Firefox start in offline mode?" >> >>

Re: "wireless disabled in software"

On 9/17/11 9:15 AM, Timothy Murphy wrote: > Craig White wrote: > >>> This caused NM to modify or create files all over the place, >>> including deleting everything in /etc/resolv.conf . >>> This is a habit of NM that I don't understand - >>> I cannot think of any circumstances where an empty resolv

[389-users] Problem with samba and 389 Directory server with LDAPS

I am getting the following message in the /var/log/samba/smbd.log file when I start up samba and try to connect as a user. [2011/09/27 14:23:33, 1] lib/smbldap.c:another_ldap_try(1153) Connection to LDAP server failed for the 15 try! [2011/09/27 14:23:34, 10] lib/smbldap.c:smb_ldap_setup_conn(6

Re: Comparitive Desktop Environments

On Mon, 2011-09-26 at 14:08 -0700, Rick Stevens wrote: > On 09/26/2011 01:48 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: > > On 09/26/2011 01:35 PM, Bob Goodwin wrote: > >> If I understand, right click on desk top or terminal to > >> change color, image, etc. > >> > >> Bob > > > > T

Re: Developers responsibillity to Fedora Users

On Tue, 2011-09-27 at 06:19 -0700, Don Quixote de la Mancha wrote: > On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 6:09 AM, Andrew Haley wrote: > > This distro has more than one DE. > > Perhaps it would be productive if you posted explicit, detailed > instructions for changing the desktop environment in Fedora, or if

Re: Firefox 6.02, Fedora 15 "browser offline"

On 27/09/11 15:14, David wrote: > On 9/27/2011 6:33 AM, Frank Murphy wrote: >> browser offline > > "Linux Solutions: Why does Firefox start in offline mode?" > > > > I don't have this problem but I found this

Re: GGoogle chat vs Skype

Hi Guys, This is well worth looking at, it was GNU SIP Communicator :- http://jitsi.org/ It supports lots of formats, including Facebook, Google and Skype I believe. Aaron -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedor

Re: Firefox 6.02, Fedora 15 "browser offline"

On 9/27/2011 6:33 AM, Frank Murphy wrote: > browser offline "Linux Solutions: Why does Firefox start in offline mode?" I don't have this problem but I found this with Google and it mentions Fedora by name.

Re: gdesklets

I'm not real sure what's going to happen with gDesklets now that Gnome 3 is out. They don't really fit the gnome 3 philosophy as far as I can see. >From the looks of it the developers aren't really sure themselves: http://gdesklets.de/?q=node/29 Steven N. Oliver On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 8:57 AM,

Re: GGoogle chat vs Skype

On Tue, 2011-09-27 at 07:41 -0400, Sam Varshavchik wrote: > Timothy Murphy writes: > > > Pardon my ignorance, but how does one use Google Chat? > > > > I've downloaded google-talkplugin_current_i386.rpm > > from , > > and installed it with "sudo yum localinstall".

Re: Developers responsibillity to Fedora Users

On 09/27/2011 03:09 PM, Andrew Haley wrote: > On 09/27/2011 12:01 PM, Ralf Corsepius wrote: >> On 09/27/2011 11:59 AM, Andrew Haley wrote: >>> On 09/26/2011 11:59 PM, Roger wrote: On 26/09/11 19:38, Andrew Haley wrote: > On 09/22/2011 02:15 PM, Aaron Konstam wrote: >> Alan Cox is exact

Re: Developers responsibillity to Fedora Users

On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 6:09 AM, Andrew Haley wrote: > This distro has more than one DE. Perhaps it would be productive if you posted explicit, detailed instructions for changing the desktop environment in Fedora, or if there are already instructions online, researched which page is best then pos

Re: Developers responsibillity to Fedora Users

On 09/27/2011 12:01 PM, Ralf Corsepius wrote: > On 09/27/2011 11:59 AM, Andrew Haley wrote: >> On 09/26/2011 11:59 PM, Roger wrote: >>> On 26/09/11 19:38, Andrew Haley wrote: On 09/22/2011 02:15 PM, Aaron Konstam wrote: > Alan Cox is exactly right that the users of Fedora products get them

Re: Developers responsibillity to Fedora Users

On 27 September 2011 10:59, Andrew Haley wrote: > On 09/26/2011 11:59 PM, Roger wrote: >> Some say that the new Fedora GUI is unhelpful and possibly difficult to >> use, preferring a simpler desktop. > > Ahh, this is all about GNOME 3.  It's very unfair to describe the > actions/attitude of GNOME

gdesklets

Hallo everybody! I have a question concerning gdesklets. I have installed ist and made a nice profile for my desktop. But: Everytime i press the "Show desktop" also the gdesklets disappear. Does someone know how to fix the desklets on the desktop? Version gdesklets: 0.36.3 fedora 15. Thx. Be

Re: F15 Samba shares: SWAT, smb.conf, system-config or KDE file share properties ? Bug ?

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 09/16/2011 07:07 AM, Tim wrote: > On Tue, 2011-09-13 at 19:07 -0600, linux guy wrote: >> After a while I realized that the server was running with the settings >> from several changes ago and that the only way I could be sure that my >> changes were

Re: Developers responsibillity to Fedora Users

On Tue, 2011-09-27 at 13:01 +0200, Ralf Corsepius wrote: > On 09/27/2011 11:59 AM, Andrew Haley wrote: > > > > GNOME 3 is, to say the least, controversial. Ubuntu Unity hasn't had a > > uniformly great reception either. > Agreed. As I see it, both Ubuntu and Fedora's managements seem to be > addic

Re: Fedora14: Very very slow NFS write performance

On 09/26/2011 04:46 PM, Terry Barnaby wrote: > Thanks for the info. Might try that, but I still need NFS for other systems > and having used it for almost 30 years am a bit used to it ! glusterfs and nfs mix nicely - you can use the native glusterfs client (I do), or you can use an nfs client to

Re: GGoogle chat vs Skype

Timothy Murphy writes: Pardon my ignorance, but how does one use Google Chat? I've downloaded google-talkplugin_current_i386.rpm from , and installed it with "sudo yum localinstall". Now what ...? Log into your Gmail account. Send an invite to a contact. Wai

Re: Building X11R6.8 in Fedora 15 - Flex not found

On Tue, 2011-09-27 at 08:41 +0200, Weather wrote: > > Doug Kuvaas wrote: > > >I am trying to build an older version of X Server on Fedora 15 to > >allow me to run a legacy application. Fedora 8, which functions > >correctly for our application, will not install on a new computer for > >some rea

Re: Developers responsibillity to Fedora Users

On 09/27/2011 11:59 AM, Andrew Haley wrote: > On 09/26/2011 11:59 PM, Roger wrote: >> On 26/09/11 19:38, Andrew Haley wrote: >>> On 09/22/2011 02:15 PM, Aaron Konstam wrote: Alan Cox is exactly right that the users of Fedora products get them free and one can make a strong case that there

Re: Developers responsibillity to Fedora Users

snip > > Ahh, this is all about GNOME 3. It's very unfair to describe the > actions/attitude of GNOME developers at that of all Fedora developers. > snip > > Not to mention KDE and XFCE. > > GNOME 3 is, to say the least, controversial. Ubuntu Unity hasn't had a > uniformly great reception ei

Re: GGoogle chat vs Skype

Pardon my ignorance, but how does one use Google Chat? I've downloaded google-talkplugin_current_i386.rpm from , and installed it with "sudo yum localinstall". Now what ...? -- Timothy Murphy e-mail: gayleard /at/ eircom.net tel: +353-86-2336090, +353-1-28423

Firefox 6.02, Fedora 15 "browser offline"

Back to getting "browser offline" when network is fine. Other browsers work. tried "about:config - browser.offline toggled the value to false. Still starts offline. -- Regards, Frank Murphy UTF_8 Encoded Friend of fedoraproject.org -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubsc

Re: Developers responsibillity to Fedora Users

On 09/26/2011 11:59 PM, Roger wrote: > On 26/09/11 19:38, Andrew Haley wrote: >> On 09/22/2011 02:15 PM, Aaron Konstam wrote: >>> Alan Cox is exactly right that the users of Fedora products get them >>> free and one can make a strong case that therefore Fedora developers >>> have no responsibility

RE: "fans seems to work fine" & "It's not enough that they spin"...

On Tue, 2011-09-27 at 09:42 +0200, j.witvl...@mindef.nl wrote: > I think (..) he meant, a larger fan produces less noise than a smaller > one, and one larger fan produces more air-flow than several smaller > ones. A dead CPU fan, in a case with several fans, can be a single point of failure. So t

Re: "fans seems to work fine" & "It's not enough that they spin".. Try building your own water cooling from junk...

On Mon, 2011-09-26 at 16:38 -0700, Linda McLeod wrote: > "Liquid cooled"..? > > Umm?.. thin 1/4" soft copper pipe wrapped around hot things like how > a still is made, but not touching anything.. Heatsinks with a coolant pumped through them to external radiators. Essentially the same sort of th

Re: "fans seems to work fine" & "It's not enough that they spin"...

Tim: >> But it's not just*a* fan, you have PSU fans, CPU fans, and sometimes a >> case fan. A box with one large fan ducted to all the other heatsinks >> makes things a lot quieter, and more reliable. Joe Zeff: > I don't know about anybody else on this list, but that suggestion makes > the word

RE: "fans seems to work fine" & "It's not enough that they spin"...

-Original Message- From: users-boun...@lists.fedoraproject.org [mailto:users-boun...@lists.fedoraproject.org] On Behalf Of Joe Zeff Sent: Monday, September 26, 2011 8:31 PM To: Community support for Fedora users Subject: Re: "fans seems to work fine" & "It's not enough that they spin"...