Re: Gnome 3 ~ Windows 8?

2011-07-13 Thread Frantisek Hanzlik
Tim wrote: > I don't... They all (Linux too) seem to be heading for being some sort > of iPad clone. Being all the more inappropriate for trying to use a > touch-screen type of interface, when you don't have a touch-screen. > > They're also being painful as far as multi-tasking is concerned. > W

Re: Can't send email

2011-07-13 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Wed, 2011-07-13 at 16:35 -0700, Vincent Onelli wrote: > Hello, > I am having problem sending email, receiving is OK but sending keeping at > asking > for password because can't authenticate. > The set up is identical to my laptop which work OK, I rechecked several > times, I > also redone th

Re: Can't send email

2011-07-13 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 14.07.2011 01:35, schrieb Vincent Onelli: > I am having problem sending email, receiving is OK but sending keeping at > asking > for password because can't authenticate is the password correct? > The set up is identical to my laptop which work OK, I rechecked several times > I also redone

Re: Gnome 3 ~ Windows 8?

2011-07-13 Thread Tom H
On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 2:54 PM, Tom Horsley wrote: > On Wed, 13 Jul 2011 16:04:12 + (UTC) > JB wrote: >> >> Some of these Ubuntu and Unity frustrated users are so clueless that they >> seek >> a remedy by wanting to move to Fedora ... >> There are some wolves waiting for them: GNOME 3, syste

Re: Gnome 3 ~ Windows 8?

2011-07-13 Thread Tom H
On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 1:44 PM, James McKenzie wrote: > On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 10:32 AM, Tim wrote: >> On Wed, 2011-07-13 at 09:54 -0500, Mike Chambers sent: >>> >>> Without intending a flamewar >> >> Hmmph...  Then goes ahead and does something that's likely to do so. >> Statements, like that,

Re: cant nfs mount a mac to my linux nfs server machine

2011-07-13 Thread Tom H
On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 5:18 PM, Ralph Blach wrote: > > I cannot mount a mac to my nfs fedora 13 linux machine > > Here is my exports file > > cat /etc/exports > /home/colette                  *(rw,insecure) > > Here are the messages I get from the /var/log/messages > > Jul 12 18:32:18 chipblach k

Re: Help with NetworkManager

2011-07-13 Thread Tom H
On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 4:23 PM, j.e.aneiros wrote: > > I hope this is the right place for posting this question. > I'm trying to perform an installation using kickstart and I having a hard > time trying to disable NetworkManager during the time previous to the real > installation, it says it is t

Can't send email

2011-07-13 Thread Vincent Onelli
Hello, I am having problem sending email, receiving is OK but sending keeping at asking for password because can't authenticate. The set up is identical to my laptop which work OK, I rechecked several times, I also redone the set up few times. The OS is F15 any of you good people have some sugg

cant nfs mount a mac to my linux nfs server machine

2011-07-13 Thread Ralph Blach
I cannot mount a mac to my nfs fedora 13 linux machine Here is my exports file cat /etc/exports /home/colette *(rw,insecure) Here are the messages I get from the /var/log/messages Jul 12 18:32:18 chipblach kernel: statd: server rpc.statd not responding, timed out Jul 12 18:32

Re: Help with NetworkManager

2011-07-13 Thread j.e.aneiros
It didn't work. My question is: why is NetworkManager trying to configure the interface if the install method is not network based? Any other ideas? On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 4:58 PM, j.e.aneiros wrote: > So, it would be something like: > > linux ks=hd:sdb1:/ks.cfg.ip=192.168.0.1 > > I'll try it

How To Resize/Convert a BTRFS-LUKS partition?

2011-07-13 Thread Manuel Escudero
it's official: Lately, I've been having a lot of Performance issues because of BTRFS (Specially when running VM's) so I was wondering if theres a way to Shrink an encrypted (Crypto-Luks) BTRFS partition in order to create a new Ext4 one to store my VM's... In case there's not, I'm interested in k

Re: Help with NetworkManager

2011-07-13 Thread j.e.aneiros
Nope, I need to configure the net in my kickstart file, I need it for ssh access after reboot. On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 4:53 PM, Terry Polzin wrote: > On Wed, 2011-07-13 at 16:41 -0400, j.e.aneiros wrote: > > No, it is not necessary 'cause I'm giving the entry hd:sdb1, and > > that's working, but

Re: Help with NetworkManager

2011-07-13 Thread j.e.aneiros
So, it would be something like: linux ks=hd:sdb1:/ks.cfg.ip=192.168.0.1 I'll try it and let you know. This kludge is gonna be interesting. Thanks Terry. On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 4:50 PM, Terry Polzin wrote: > On Wed, 2011-07-13 at 16:41 -0400, j.e.aneiros wrote: > > No, it is not necessary 'ca

Re: Help with NetworkManager

2011-07-13 Thread Terry Polzin
On Wed, 2011-07-13 at 16:41 -0400, j.e.aneiros wrote: > No, it is not necessary 'cause I'm giving the entry hd:sdb1, and > that's working, but thanks anyways. > > On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 4:34 PM, Terry Polzin > wrote: > > On Wed, 2011-07-13 at 16:23 -0400, j.e.aneiros wrote: >

Re: Help with NetworkManager

2011-07-13 Thread j.e.aneiros
No, it is not necessary 'cause I'm giving the entry hd:sdb1, and that's working, but thanks anyways. On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 4:34 PM, Terry Polzin wrote: > On Wed, 2011-07-13 at 16:23 -0400, j.e.aneiros wrote: > > Hi, > > > > > > I hope this is the right place for posting this question. > > > >

Re: Help with NetworkManager

2011-07-13 Thread Terry Polzin
On Wed, 2011-07-13 at 16:23 -0400, j.e.aneiros wrote: > Hi, > > > I hope this is the right place for posting this question. > > > I'm trying to perform an installation using kickstart and I having a > hard time trying to disable NetworkManager during the time previous to > the real installation

Kickstart, halt and eject

2011-07-13 Thread j.e.aneiros
Hi, It will be so nice to have the option eject in case of the halt instead of the reboot! Is it possible? -- J. E. Aneiros GNU/Linux User #190716 en http://counter.li.org perl -e '$_=pack(c5,0105,0107,0123,0132,(1<<3)+2);y[A-Z][N-ZA-M];print;' PK fingerprint: 5179 917E 5B34 F073 E11A AFB3 4CB3

Re: No sound after update today -

2011-07-13 Thread Bob Goodwin
On 13/07/11 13:38, Genes MailLists wrote: > On 07/13/2011 12:51 PM, Bob Goodwin wrote: >> >> A good question and that only adds to the confusion. To begin >> with, rebooting is a painful process and takes about a minute >> and a half to get to the point where I can log in an

Help with NetworkManager

2011-07-13 Thread j.e.aneiros
Hi, I hope this is the right place for posting this question. I'm trying to perform an installation using kickstart and I having a hard time trying to disable NetworkManager during the time previous to the real installation, it says it is trying to configure eth0. I'm using a CDROM based install

Re: Gnome 3 ~ Windows 8?

2011-07-13 Thread Tom Horsley
On Wed, 13 Jul 2011 16:04:12 + (UTC) JB wrote: > Some of these Ubuntu and Unity frustrated users are so clueless that they seek > a remedy by wanting to move to Fedora ... > There are some wolves waiting for them: GNOME 3, systemd, ... :-) Have you tried Unity? I didn't think it was possible

Re: XDMCP Remote login

2011-07-13 Thread Doug Kuvaas
All right, my woes for this beast are down to one. For some reason, if I try to run X directly in 8 bit color mode, I get only greyscale output. Because the legacy application I am running doesn't work properly with higher color depths (printing of displays doesn't work), I cannot run at a higher

Re: Gnome 3 ~ Windows 8?

2011-07-13 Thread Tim
On Wed, 2011-07-13 at 10:44 -0700, James McKenzie wrote: > as a Linux user you have a VARIETY of desktops to select from. > GNOME is just one of them. Actually, there is a little bit more to it than that... At the basic level, yes, you can pick a desktop that appears in a manner that pleases you.

Re: Gnome 3 ~ Windows 8?

2011-07-13 Thread James McKenzie
On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 10:32 AM, Tim wrote: > On Wed, 2011-07-13 at 09:54 -0500, Mike Chambers sent: >> Without intending a flamewar > > Hmmph...  Then goes ahead and does something that's likely to do so. > Statements, like that, are similar to:  With all due respect... > And:  I don't mean to b

Re: No sound after update today -

2011-07-13 Thread Genes MailLists
On 07/13/2011 12:51 PM, Bob Goodwin wrote: > On 13/07/11 11:28, Genes MailLists wrote: >> >>Was it rebooting that fixed it - or rebooting with an older kernel? >> Can you try rebooting with newer kernel? >> >>gene > >A good question and that only adds to the confusion. To begin >

Re: Gnome 3 ~ Windows 8?

2011-07-13 Thread Tim
On Wed, 2011-07-13 at 09:54 -0500, Mike Chambers sent: > Without intending a flamewar Hmmph... Then goes ahead and does something that's likely to do so. Statements, like that, are similar to: With all due respect... And: I don't mean to be critical, but... Anyway, this argument has already be

Can't run Software Update since upgrade

2011-07-13 Thread Alan Evans
I was a F13 holdout for a long time and finally caved to my machine constantly nagging me to upgrade. I did the upgrade (preupgrade) to F14, since I'm not ready to endure all the changes in F15. Still, I'm surprised at the number of things that subtly (and not-so-subtly) broke. I'll take it one thi

Re: No sound after update today -

2011-07-13 Thread Bob Goodwin
On 13/07/11 11:28, Genes MailLists wrote: > >Was it rebooting that fixed it - or rebooting with an older kernel? > Can you try rebooting with newer kernel? > >gene A good question and that only adds to the confusion. To begin with, rebooting is a painful process and takes a

Re: /var/log/messages empty

2011-07-13 Thread jarmo
jarmo kirjoitti keskiviikko, 13. heinäkuuta 2011 17:51:03: > does write nothing into messages. > Where to look solution? Just found something... In /etc/rsyslog.conf: RULES

Re: Gnome 3 ~ Windows 8?

2011-07-13 Thread JB
Mike Chambers miketc.net> writes: > ... > Now that F15 has had a few weeks of heavy use, and people have either > adapted to the new interface or adopted a permanently frustrated > attitude toward it, I'm curious the general feeling. (Sorry, my English > is giving out -- I think this last senten

Re: Gnome 3 ~ Windows 8?

2011-07-13 Thread Frank Murphy
On 13/07/11 15:39, 夜神 岩男 wrote: > > Is he right and we're moving badly in the wrong direction (as in, an > interface with a more traditional GUI feel would be a big winner?) or is > competing with a similar look-and-feel as the default while providing > lots of traditional-feeling alternatives a

Re: No sound after update today -

2011-07-13 Thread Genes MailLists
On 07/13/2011 11:00 AM, Bob Goodwin wrote: >> >> Boot with the previous kernel, and see if that fixes it. >> > > Thanks Sam, that fixed it, or at least got around the problem. I > can't recall having a problem due to a new kernel, usually > everything continues to work. Bu

Re: Gnome 3 ~ Windows 8?

2011-07-13 Thread Alan Cox
> Now that F15 has had a few weeks of heavy use, and people have either > adapted to the new interface or adopted a permanently frustrated > attitude toward it, I'm curious the general feeling. (Sorry, my English > is giving out -- I think this last sentence may be weird.) A long long time ago (be

Re: No sound after update today -

2011-07-13 Thread Bob Goodwin
On 13/07/11 10:44, Sam Varshavchik wrote: > Bob Goodwin writes: > >> I ran yum update earlier and now I have no sound. I haven't >> found anything that restores it in alsamixer or p/a vol. >> control. Alsamixer [F5 for All] only displays two controls, >> normally the

Gnome 3 ~ Windows 8?

2011-07-13 Thread Mike Chambers
Started a new thread for the user, as looks like stole another thread and changed the subject. Anyway, here is the original post and can comment on it from there if you like. Don't flame ME, I care less bout the subject, just trying to help get someone going in right direction. From: 夜神 岩男 T

/var/log/messages empty

2011-07-13 Thread jarmo
I'm confused, /var/log/messages is empty. FC15 multi-user.target.wants]# systemctl status rsyslog.service rsyslog.service - System Logging Service Loaded: loaded (/lib/systemd/system/rsyslog.service) Active: active (running) since Wed, 13 Jul 2011 17:20:03 +0300; 24min ago

Re: Gnome 3 ~ Windows 8?

2011-07-13 Thread Ed Greshko
I have no opinion on those types of articles. Even if I did, it would only be my opinion... But, I would like to point out that you've managed to hijack a thread. Not something that is nice around these parts. :-) -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change sub

Re: No sound after update today -

2011-07-13 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Bob Goodwin writes: I ran yum update earlier and now I have no sound. I haven't found anything that restores it in alsamixer or p/a vol. control. Alsamixer [F5 for All] only displays two controls, normally there are others that require unmuting? I have Th

Re: No sound after update today -

2011-07-13 Thread Antonio Olivares
--- On Wed, 7/13/11, Bob Goodwin wrote: > From: Bob Goodwin > Subject: No sound after update today - > To: "Fedora list" > Date: Wednesday, July 13, 2011, 7:03 AM >         I ran yum > update earlier and now I have no sound. I haven't >         found anything that restores it > in alsamixer o

Gnome 3 ~ Windows 8?

2011-07-13 Thread 夜神 岩男
Without intending a flamewar (after all, we have to move forward, wherever that means), the linked article[1] is not interesting or unique in its blatant criticism of the Windows 8 interface, but it is interesting that the author sees the Windows 8 interface as a chance for Linux to get the upper h

F15: mcelog hardware error after a power failure

2011-07-13 Thread Patrick Mansfield
Hi - I'm running up to date Fedora 15. Power glitched yesterday morning, and my system rebooted (along with clocks resetting, and my laptop hanging ... but that's a different issue). During the reboot, I got the following in my log file. The machine is otherwise up and running with (apparently)

No sound after update today -

2011-07-13 Thread Bob Goodwin
I ran yum update earlier and now I have no sound. I haven't found anything that restores it in alsamixer or p/a vol. control. Alsamixer [F5 for All] only displays two controls, normally there are others that require unmuting? I have Thunderbird mail set up f

bluetooth service dies after sleep

2011-07-13 Thread Genes MailLists
Frequently after laptop is awoken from sleep (by lid open) - bluetooth stops working. This is not every time only some of the time. systemctl restart bluetooth.service gets it working again. Is this a known bug? If so is it a bug with systemd or bluetoothd or something else? This is wha

Re: Need help for installing software fedora 15

2011-07-13 Thread Joachim Backes
On 07/13/2011 02:12 PM, Joachim Backes wrote: > On 07/13/2011 02:05 PM, Ali Altuncevahir wrote: >> I need help to install my frequently used software called qutecsound to >> fedora 15. I can't see in software install application. Is there any >> software reositories for this software. >> >> Thank

Re: Need help for installing software fedora 15

2011-07-13 Thread Joachim Backes
On 07/13/2011 02:05 PM, Ali Altuncevahir wrote: > I need help to install my frequently used software called qutecsound to > fedora 15. I can't see in software install application. Is there any > software reositories for this software. > > Thank you, Ali > Please try http://sourceforge.net/proj

Need help for installing software fedora 15

2011-07-13 Thread Ali Altuncevahir
I need help to install my frequently used software called qutecsound to fedora 15. I can't see in software install application. Is there any software reositories for this software. Thank you, Ali -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: h

Re: XDMCP Remote login

2011-07-13 Thread Alain Spineux
On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 11:30 PM, Doug Kuvaas wrote: > OK, I have a couple Dell Optiplex 980s that I am trying to get set up for a > specialized application.  What I want to be able to do worked in Fedora 8 > and earlier, but it has been broken since Fedora 9. > PC1 I want to set up so it queries