On 11/30/06, Wendy Smoak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On 11/30/06, Caroline Jen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Are there books available on Struts 2? or any newer
> versions of Struts?
The WebWork in Action book is the only thing I'm aware of at the moment.
For Struts 1, a second edition of James
On 10/6/06, Leon Rosenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
you probably want the
http://struts.apache.org/1.x/struts-extras/apidocs/org/apache/struts/actions/ForwardAction.html
+1 (yeah, what he said)
Simon
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On 10/6/06, Wesley Wannemacher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hello,
I'm exercising the 'Casual Friday' rule here to ask some general
questions. I apologize in advance if I break any list etiquette, but I
subscribed on Monday and have been waiting patiently for Friday so that
I can get these questio
On 8/31/06, Elhanan Maayan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
this:
http://www.theserverside.com/tt/articles/article.tss?l=JSFTapestry
so the question continues with new applications
go for struts 1.3
learn webwork 2.2 (webwork in action, or developing web apps with lightweight
framework ) and then
On 8/30/06, Ted Husted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On 8/30/06, Simon Chappell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Is that an unofficial announcement of the 1.3 release date? :-)
There is already a 1.3.5 beta release pending.
* http://struts.apache.org/announce.html
How soon it goes GA
On 8/30/06, James Holmes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Thanks for the vote of confidence Ted. A 2nd edition of my Struts: The Complete
Reference will be out at the end of the year that is up to date with Struts 1.3.
Is that an unofficial announcement of the 1.3 release date? :-)
Simon
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On 8/21/06, Ted Husted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
In practice, most teams "in the field" seem to have standardized on
1.1 and haven't budged since.
Yup. That's what we did at my last employer. The hassle of going
through the procedure to get the version updated was more than mortal
man could e
On 8/15/06, Monkeyden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Either that or get the best price. Not my publisher of choice but I'm
always willing to support a colleague.
Actually, while I used to be a strict O'Reilly book buying fellow, I
must say that I have several excellent titles from Apress. I think
I still want to know why anyone would want open sores?
Kinda adds new meaning to descriptions of the GPL as viral. :-)
Simon
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On 3/24/06, Greg Reddin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I thought Friday and beer were synonymous :-)
>
> Greg
>
> On Mar 24, 2006, at 1:12 PM, Rick Reumann wrote:
>
> >
> > Sorry, meant to put "Friday" in the subject or is it still "Beer"
> > we are supposed to use?
> >
> > Rick Reumann wrote the fol
On 3/18/06, Frank W. Zammetti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sat, March 18, 2006 11:21 am, Simon Chappell said:
> > Or maybe I have offended Dakota by associating him with Frank? I was
> > just trying to indicate that they are both willing and able to speak
> > out
On 3/17/06, Steve Raeburn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Simon, I think you've nicely illustrated the problem. Rather than
> interpret what people have said as their honest,educated opinion,
> certain people choose to interpret it as bullshit. Some people can live
> in a world that has many "right" a
As one who appreciates Struts very much, I would like to thank the
team of committers for their work and dedication.
I would also like to thank the rest of the mailing list for being
willing to voice concerns and call out bullshit ("spin" if you don't
like the word bullshit). This is an important
On 2/23/06, Leon Rosenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 2/23/06, Simon Chappell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I'm sure someone can give you a much more Comp.Sci. answer, but here's
> > my "in the trenches" answer.
> >
> > A busines
I'm sure someone can give you a much more Comp.Sci. answer, but here's
my "in the trenches" answer.
A business object is any object that you use to represent a business
concept. Classic examples would be customer, address and order.
A data transfer object is anything that you use to send data fro
The answer is "it depends".
I love playing with new stuff, but when my back's against the wall
(corporate deadlines, gotta love 'em) I stick with the tried and
tested. I'm leading a small project right now that we started in
December and we're using Struts. There are a number of reasons for
this:
I was very disappointed by the O'Reilly Ant book.
I have not read Struts in Action (one of the few Struts books that I
haven't read), but the rest of the in Action series is excellent.
Simon
On 2/2/06, Frank W. Zammetti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Generally-speaking, anything in the "X in Actio
On 2/2/06, Michael Jouravlev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
* snip a bunch of stuff *
> Objections?
More of a comment really. While you may or may not be right about
which framework/buzzword/concept/pattern sucks and how much they suck,
Struts has helped me "git 'er done" without too much pain.
Cal
Errr, depending on what sort of blogs you like to visit, that might
just be possible! There's all sorts on the Internet you know!
On 1/27/06, Ted Husted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> ... you think blogs are a breakfast treat.
>
> Engineer: "I like to start each day with a cup of coffee and a coupl
On 1/23/06, Frank W. Zammetti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
*snip*
> Sticking with Struts 1.2.4 for a while (very slow to upgrade versions of
> anything around here).
Hah! We have you beat. We're still using Struts 1.1!
Simon
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1.4.1 and Struts 1.1
Ain't corporate standards a wonderful thing? :-)
On 1/23/06, Niall Pemberton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> What JDK version are you using?
>
> -
> [ ] JDK 1.2
> [ ] JDK 1.3
> [ ] JDK 1.4
> [ ] JDK 1.5 (or JDK 5)
> -
>
> I'm mainly inter
Oh great, I have a Mac, so I *have* to work! Boo hoo!
(Well, actually I have a day off today! :-)
Simon
On 1/20/06, David Thielen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi;
>
>
>
> For those that want something other than work to do today -
> http://www.windwardreports.com/enemy_nations.htm
>
>
>
> - dav
There are others? Who knew!
On 1/13/06, Ted Husted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> ... your only source of current events is Slashdot and The Daily Show.
>
> -T.
>
> -
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On 1/6/06, Frank W. Zammetti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
*snip*
> I'm not able to use 1.3 yet based on some politics here, so I've had to
> stick with 1.2.7.
Luxury! I'm still out here "allowed" to use 1.1. So, you folks just
feel free to change anything you like, it isn't going to make *any*
diffe
True, but it's been pointed out that having a wife already disqualified me!
On 1/6/06, Daniel Blumenthal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> nah, if you were really a geek you'd type :x and save the keypress :)
>
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Si
I have been known to type :wq when trying to save documents written in
those new-fangled gooey-thingies. :-)
Simon
On 1/6/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> LOL As well as a Cntrl-F when you are reading a book...!!
>
> Chris McCormack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 01/06/2006
>
On 10/28/05, James Mitchell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
*snip*
> Complaining about this is like complaining about someone's gender.
Is that an option? All I can think about now is The Lumberjack Song! ;-)
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On 8/6/05, Jason Lea <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I am at home! and it's Sunday! (in New Zealand :) )
>
> Dave Newton wrote:
>
> >Wait, they let you guys go home on weekends?!
> >
> >Dave
> >
> >
> >
> >-
Let me know when it's done and I'll try it again.
On 7/16/05, netsql <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> We still have some JNI issues in Mac.
> :-(
> .V
>
>
>
>
> Simon Chappell wrote:
> > I tried it on my Mac (OS X 10.3.9) and while it trigge
I tried it on my Mac (OS X 10.3.9) and while it triggered the JNLP
download, nothing happened after that. Bummer. :-(
Simon
On 7/15/05, netsql <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> roomity.com to check it out.
>
> it should help you use mail lists. It's RiA/JDNC (CoR). There should be
> updates weekly an
Hey, I had an H-1B when I first came to America. Does that mean I can
be a fashion model? :-)
On 7/8/05, Daniel Perry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> "What is an H-1B?
>
> The H-1B is a nonimmigrant classification used by an alien who will be
> employed temporarily in a specialty occupation or as a
James,
> While it is disheartening to see him suffer from this common
> condition. We are here for you Mark. We love you man!
Actually, I'm fairly sure that I don't want to commit to anything more
than moderately fond.
Simon
Well, the Struts mailing list has a long, and I mean LONG, history of
off-topic conversations. I should know, I've been one of the bigger
offenders over time. :-)
The rules have always been that the messages should be suitably
labeled with either [OT], [FRIDAY] or [BEER]. This allows folks to
filt
Err, yes, lovely. Thank you for sharing that. I'm very happy for.
Really. Very happy. I hope that you and vs.net live happily ever
after, if not longer than that. I haven't been this happy since ...
ummm, since . m, really, it'll come to me in a moment .
sliced bread, that's it, I haven
Yan,
In case you hadn't noticed by now, Mark is one of the extra special
members of the mailing list (short bus special if you understand the
strictly American cultural reference). Those of us who have been on
the list a while know better than to get into mud slinging with him.
It's kinda like mud
Never apologise for insulting Mark. Or, at least, I don't. :-)
On 6/29/05, Yan Hu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hahahha. Then we would be all morons. And so there will be no morons.
> Anyways, I perhaps should
> not have used that tone. After all, it is all about technologies not
> flamewars
Take a look at some code generated by lex or yacc and be prepared for
an eye-opening! :-)
On 6/29/05, Durham David R Jr Ctr 805 CSPTS/SCE
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I stick to my assertion that it is not auto-generated. It might
> > be inserted by the IDE, but it is not written by the IDE.
>
On 6/29/05, Durham David R Jr Ctr 805 CSPTS/SCE
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Most autogenerated code is less programmer friendly than it could
> > be, it's purpose being to be easily created rather than read and
> > maintained.
>
> I call throwing out the baby with the bathwater. The "unreadabl
On 6/29/05, Yan Hu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Maybe IDEs are helpful,
> It is not "Maybe" that IDEs are useful. It is that they are definiately
> useful.
Under certain circumstances they are useful. I am fully of the opinion
that no beginner should ever be allowed to use an IDE. IDEs are an
Some of us don't like any of them!
http://uab.blogspot.com/2005/06/ides-we-dont-need-no-stinking-ides.html
Simon
On 6/29/05, Mark Galbreath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Sun's Creator Studio rulez the inexpensive Java IDE world; JetBrain's IDEA
> rulez the $300+ IDEs. Eclipse isn't worth a shit
On 6/24/05, Dave Newton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Simon Chappell wrote:
>
> >Hey, this isn't a joke is it? I would love to see a Lisp version of
> >Struts. I'm trying to learn Lisp as a background process, so a working
> >example of something I was al
Hey, this isn't a joke is it? I would love to see a Lisp version of
Struts. I'm trying to learn Lisp as a background process, so a working
example of something I was already familiar with would be appreciated.
Simon
On 6/24/05, Dave Newton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Mark Galbreath wrote:
>
> >
Mark,
On 6/24/05, Mark Galbreath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> muhahahaha.
>
> I know you've missed me! When I signed off the list a couple of years ago
> (wow! that long???)
I thought that it was you that was missing me! Oh well, next time I'll
try harder to miss you. :-)
Simon
Good point, perhaps
com.evergreennohyphenbutperhapsalittlehypeinvestments
would be clearer?
On 6/17/05, Dave Newton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Simon Chappell wrote:
>
> >That's easy:
> >
> >com.evergreennohypheninvestments
> >
>
That's easy:
com.evergreennohypheninvestments
:-)
On 6/17/05, Adam Hardy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hey! I heard that!
>
> Dennis,
>
> since you're such a smart alec, tell me what happens when you publish a
> product with the package com.evergreeninvestments, and you find that
> it's already
Alright, after receiving permission from Frank, I posted his summary
of the recent thread with this same name to my blog.
http://uab.blogspot.com/2005/06/funny-thread-on-struts-mailing-list.html
Enjoy. Remember, the summary is Frank's and the blog is mine. So don't
blame Frank if you don't like a
Frank this needs to be preserved for posterity. Would you mind if I
post it to my blog?
On 6/1/05, Frank W. Zammetti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Wow, so *this* is what it's like being the parent of Rosemary's baby!
>
> I wonder if there has ever been a more OT thread?
>
> Allow me to summarize
On 6/1/05, Leon Rosenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
*snip*
> Would you be able to code them with c? Forget it.
Actually, I suspect that alot of these have been coded with C/C++.
> What we have had was mostly alpha-numeric based terminals (remember borlands
> gdi?) with maybe 10-20 business funct
> Patterns came from the recognition of common idioms, practices in the
> industry. Religously following and applying patterns could condemn
> you not to discovering future oversights and other intuitions.
Back when I was a young programmer we used to have to think. THINK! Oh
the humanity. No patt
Good stuff Frank. Your point is a good one and well made.
I just spoke at a Java User Group here in Wisconsin on a similar
issue, about how most people don't need to improve their Java
programming skills, rather they need to improve their programming
skills!
I think that pattern use falls in the
I can play a CD.
On 5/13/05, Marco Mistroni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hey,
> I played clarinet 10 years ago... is there space for me? :0
>
> Regards
> marco
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Ted Husted [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 13 May 2005 12:27
> To: Struts Users
Ska? Showing your age there Rick. Oops, so am I. :-)
On 5/12/05, Rick Reumann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Yea, it's not Friday. Just whining (with no cheese)..
>
> Anyone else fed up with trying to keep up with all the stuff coming out
> every day in this crazy IT world ???
>
> I can't play an
#4 The same action form for both input and output.
On 5/11/05, Michael Jouravlev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Turns out, that my way of using action forms differs from many other
> Struts users' habits. So, I am wondering how do you use action forms.
> I could not find the same poll in mailing lis
I also had this error recently when I inadvertently left out a taglib
in the header of my JSP. Took me a while to catch that one because the
symptom and the cause were so different.
Simon
On 5/10/05, Rick Reumann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Niall Pemberton wrote the following on 5/10/2005 12:49
James,
Here's a couple:
> What is it that bugs you the most about development with Struts?
Trying to work with the struts-config.xml without a dedicated editor.
I have a small, three actions, project that I'm tinkering with and I
figured that it was small enough that I didn't need to worry and I
Ted,
I say it's both. The software that we download is a product, but the
mailing list and the friends that we have made through it is a
community.
Simon
On Apr 10, 2005 6:55 AM, Ted Husted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
*snip*
> What do you say? Are we a product or a community?
>
> Here's my +1 f
Not to worry. Just a couple of thousand of your closest friends. :-)
On Apr 5, 2005 11:57 AM, Frank W. Zammetti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Gee, I kind of wish I had been paying attention and realized this was
> headed for the list :)
>
> --
> Frank W. Zammetti
> Founder and Chief Software Archi
A couple of thoughts here:
1. The timeout for DB2 should be configurable. If it isn't then
there's nothing you can do anyway. If it is configurable, then work
with your DBA to get it set to something that you and they agree is
reasonable.
2. Don't test the environment. It sounds like your trying
If I recall correctly, Craig said that it is permitted to discuss it
on the struts-user list. It is a candidate for the job of Struts 2.0
after all. :-)
Simon
On Wed, 16 Mar 2005 11:07:30 -0600, Robert Sanheim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
> I was wondering if anyone has a link or email addre
Does that mean that we only eliminate the lazy idiots from joining?
The fact that I got through shows a quality control issue right there!
;-)
On Fri, 11 Mar 2005 10:54:44 -0800, Dakota Jack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> They have made the Struts mailing lists hard to find on purpose,
> believe it
I need to pull a document together that lists the JSP and Servlet
versions required by each of the available versions of Struts, JSF and
Shale.
I have looked all over the Struts website and wiki, but I'm not
finding what I'm looking for. Can anyone help?
--
ings.
> i don't have problems getting my way.
>
> the truth is weak, we need to help it get heard!
>
> woodchuck
>
>
> --- Simon Chappell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Actually, it *can* be a liability to mention anything that management
> >
at inception, or
> > construction, I ended up with it in my lap at transition time.
> > Unfortunately for me I had to do the apologizing/explaining :)
> >
> > Al
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Simon Chappell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
Ahh yes, the ol' architecture approval game. I have played this game
so often that it's not even funny anymore. And it's always at big
companies. Sigh.
The only options are 1) comply and get very little done or 2) slip
into stealth mode, get things done and then appologise like crazy
after they di
I'm trying to write a JUnit test for an Action and I'm having problems
with ClassCastExceptions on the findForward() method of ActionMapping.
I am not in a position to try any other packages or tools, so I have
to roll this one myself.
I have narrowed the problem down to getting the ClassCastExcep
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