I think that's generally frowned upon by most Human Resource departments.

On Wed, 9 Mar 2005 07:17:54 -0800 (PST), Woodchuck
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> no no no, you guys are playing the game wrong.
> 
> i bring my 32oz Easton (tm) black magic baseball bat to these meetings.
> i don't have problems getting my way.
> 
> the truth is weak, we need to help it get heard!
> 
> woodchuck
> 
> 
> --- Simon Chappell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Actually, it *can* be a liability to mention anything that management
> > don't want spoken of. For example: we're about to start a selection
> > process for a continuous integration tool and someone (name withheld
> > to protect the innocent, but it wasn't me) mentioned (name of tool
> > withheld to protect the innocent). Management immediately went into
> > damage limitation and spin control mode. It would have been funny if
> > it wasn't so sad.
> >
> >
> > On Wed, 9 Mar 2005 06:51:33 -0800, Dakota Jack
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Whatever the corporate game, it would not be a liability to know
> > the
> > > respective merits of various frameworks in making a presentation.
> > If
> > > someone with authority or with the money decides they want to do
> > > something I don't like, that has never impacted me.  The only time
> > I
> > > have really suffered is either from my ignorance or my arrogance.
> > So,
> > > I have suffered a lot!  LOL
> > >
> > > Jack
> > >
> > > On Wed, 9 Mar 2005 09:22:57 -0500, Fogleson, Allen
> > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > Yeap that is the game. I have been a first option kind of guy for
> > a long
> > > > time. This particular project was not mine at inception, or
> > > > construction, I ended up with it in my lap at transition time.
> > > > Unfortunately for me I had to do the apologizing/explaining :)
> > > >
> > > > Al
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Simon Chappell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2005 8:18 AM
> > > > To: Struts Users Mailing List
> > > > Subject: Re: MVC Frameworks
> > > >
> > > > Ahh yes, the ol' architecture approval game. I have played this
> > game
> > > > so often that it's not even funny anymore. And it's always at big
> > > > companies. Sigh.
> > > >
> > > > The only options are 1) comply and get very little done or 2)
> > slip
> > > > into stealth mode, get things done and then appologise like crazy
> > > > after they discover what you did. For most people I recommend the
> > > > first option. I dabbled with the second option for a while, but
> > then
> > > > my employer declared that downloading unauthorised software could
> > be
> > > > grounds for dismissal. I'm strictly a first option kinda guy now.
> > > >
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> > back."
> > > ~Dakota Jack~
> > >
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