AW: LC 6.7.6 / 6.7.8 (rc 1) No externals.txt config file found

2015-10-22 Thread Tiemo Hollmann TB
The only externals.txt I know on my Win 7 machine, is in the folder: C:\Users\myUser\Documents\My LiveCode\Externals I have three entries in this file, like: Valentina4,v4rev.dll The two others are also from third party, one of them is that one listed in the warning of the standalone build. The oth

Re: [ANN] "language-livecode" 0.6.0 for Atom Editor

2015-10-22 Thread Peter TB Brett
On 21/10/2015 21:15, Mike Kerner wrote: This conversation is exactly why we need to develop some better instructions for the non-command-liners. Hi Mike, I agree. Does the info on the package's page seem adequate? https://atom.io/packages/language-livecode If not, what info is missing? How

Re: [ANN] "language-livecode" 0.6.0 for Atom Editor

2015-10-22 Thread Kay C Lan
On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 7:36 AM, Peter Haworth wrote: > This is probably a question for any Atom experts out there but The > autocomplete doesn't seem to be working as I expected. > > I'm definitely NOT an Atom expert, but try this > According to the Atom documentation, autocomplete should incl

Re: [ANN] "language-livecode" 0.6.0 for Atom Editor

2015-10-22 Thread Mike Kerner
Peter, The messages I was sending you are a good example - I wasn't able to make colorizing work until I fiddled the heck out of things. Anyway, my general rule is that if there are questions, the documentation isn't clear enough. I didn't think about tweaking the page in Git. On Thu, Oct 22,

Re: [ANN] "language-livecode" 0.6.0 for Atom Editor

2015-10-22 Thread Peter Haworth
Hi Peter, The only confusion for me was the section on the linter and the installation of LC server. I've never installed LC server so don;t know where to start. I assume there are instructions somewhere so a link to wherever that is would be good. Pete lcSQL Software Home

Re: [ANN] "language-livecode" 0.6.0 for Atom Editor

2015-10-22 Thread Peter Haworth
Thanks Kay, that did the trick. There's still a couple of things Tom doesn't appear to do, both regarding indentation. The script editor ( and TextMate) automatically indent after if/repeat/switch statements, Atom doesn't. I know it has snippets that will insert a complete if block with indentat

Re: [ANN] "language-livecode" 0.6.0 for Atom Editor

2015-10-22 Thread Bob Sneidar
I had typed up an email to that effect yesterday, but deleted it without sending it, because I thought that maybe I was asking too much of the Atom Editor. But if this is what ist should be doing then +1! Bob S On Oct 21, 2015, at 16:36 , Peter Haworth mailto:p...@lcsql.com>> wrote: This is

Re: [ANN] "language-livecode" 0.6.0 for Atom Editor

2015-10-22 Thread Bob Sneidar
I need a lot more info before I could start using this. I read the "instructions" for the linter plugin for livecode, but it makes no sense, and adding what they have there to the config file and putting the path to Livecode (I assume that is what they are looking for) throws an error in Atom.

Re: [ANN] "language-livecode" 0.6.0 for Atom Editor

2015-10-22 Thread Mike Kerner
The point isn't to use it for general purpose script editing. The point is to use it for LCB and LC Server scripts, and for libraries and other things that aren't all hooked into the IDE. Libraries are a good example, because if there are multiple people working on it, if the library is stored in

Re: [ANN] "language-livecode" 0.6.0 for Atom Editor

2015-10-22 Thread Peter Haworth
Hi Mike, There's already a plugin for that, the STS MLXEditor plugin. I'm using that and it works great. Right now, I'm liking TextMate better than Atom for editing stack scripts because it does the automatic indentation I mentioned, but maybe there's a way a setting in Atom to control that? Under

Re: Helpppppp, LC crashes on opening a project!

2015-10-22 Thread Bob Sneidar
restore from a backup. You... DO have a backup don't you? Bob S > On Oct 21, 2015, at 15:39 , tkuyp...@telenet.be wrote: > > Turned off Messages, tried to open the file, same result :-( > There are no pre-open or startup scripts, nothing that should cause this > behavior… > > Any other sugges

Re: [ANN] "language-livecode" 0.6.0 for Atom Editor

2015-10-22 Thread Monte Goulding
> On 23 Oct 2015, at 5:27 am, Peter Haworth wrote: > > ATom does have a great advantage over Textmate because it can apparently > flag syntax errors but I need to figure out how to set up LC server to make > that work. Download LiveCode Server from downloads.livecode.com

Re: [ANN] "language-livecode" 0.6.0 for Atom Editor

2015-10-22 Thread Monte Goulding
> On 23 Oct 2015, at 4:54 am, Mike Kerner wrote: > > I have been thinking about whether I would write a plugin for LC that would > let Atom be easier to use as a script editor, by pulling scripts from LC > and putting them back in stacks, which would overcome some of the > annoyances with the LC

Re: [ANN] "language-livecode" 0.6.0 for Atom Editor

2015-10-22 Thread Roger Eller
On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 5:04 PM, Monte Goulding wrote: > > > On 23 Oct 2015, at 5:27 am, Peter Haworth wrote: > > > > ATom does have a great advantage over Textmate because it can apparently > > flag syntax errors but I need to figure out how to set up LC server to > make > > that work. > > Down

Re: [ANN] "language-livecode" 0.6.0 for Atom Editor

2015-10-22 Thread Monte Goulding
> On 23 Oct 2015, at 3:17 am, Peter Haworth wrote: > > The script editor ( and TextMate) automatically indent after > if/repeat/switch statements, Atom doesn't. I know it has snippets that > will insert a complete if block with indentation but if I simply type an if > statement followed by retu

Re: [ANN] "language-livecode" 0.6.0 for Atom Editor

2015-10-22 Thread Monte Goulding
> On 23 Oct 2015, at 8:13 am, Roger Eller wrote: > > I don't see a field in Atom's settings titled "LiveCode Server Engine > Path". That seems odd that it would. Isn't Atom for any language? In the settings for the livecode language package in Settings > Packages _

Re: [ANN] "language-livecode" 0.6.0 for Atom Editor

2015-10-22 Thread Richard Gaskin
The length of this and related threads has me wondering: How hard would it be to make a good text editor in LiveCode? -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Systems Software Design and Development for the Desktop, Mobile, and the Web __

Re: [ANN] "language-livecode" 0.6.0 for Atom Editor

2015-10-22 Thread Roger Eller
On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 5:17 PM, Monte Goulding wrote: > > > On 23 Oct 2015, at 8:13 am, Roger Eller > wrote: > > > > I don't see a field in Atom's settings titled "LiveCode Server Engine > > Path". That seems odd that it would. Isn't Atom for any language? > > In the settings for the livecode

Re: [ANN] "language-livecode" 0.6.0 for Atom Editor

2015-10-22 Thread Monte Goulding
> On 23 Oct 2015, at 8:19 am, Richard Gaskin wrote: > > How hard would it be to make a good text editor in LiveCode? It might not be hard but probably take considerably more time than the time it takes to read this thread and has taken for @peter-b and contributors to put together the livecod

Re: [ANN] "language-livecode" 0.6.0 for Atom Editor

2015-10-22 Thread Richard Gaskin
Monte Goulding wrote: >> On 23 Oct 2015, at 8:19 am, Richard Gaskin wrote: >> >> How hard would it be to make a good text editor in LiveCode? > > It might not be hard but probably take considerably more time than > the time it takes to read this thread and has taken for @peter-b > and contributor

Re: Updated LiveCode roadmap

2015-10-22 Thread David Bovill
Open Language? On 21 October 2015 at 16:53, Peter TB Brett wrote: > Hi all, > > I've updated our roadmap page, which explains the work that the core dev > team is doing. It can be found at . > > Peter > > > -- > Dr Peter Brett > LiveC

Re: Updated LiveCode roadmap

2015-10-22 Thread Monte Goulding
> On 23 Oct 2015, at 9:20 am, David Bovill wrote: > > Open Language? I can’t say I understand fully how it will all work but my understanding is there will be an eventual merge of LCB with LCS and LCB appears to already have some scope for defining syntax: https://github.com/livecode/livecod

Re: [ANN] "language-livecode" 0.6.0 for Atom Editor

2015-10-22 Thread Monte Goulding
> On 23 Oct 2015, at 8:36 am, Richard Gaskin wrote: > > My question wasn't about ROI, but where I was going with that is less > interesting than your reply, which raises a question of its own: > > Given that PHP, Python, Lua, Ruby, and most other scripting languages deliver > a great engine w

Re: [ANN] "language-livecode" 0.6.0 for Atom Editor

2015-10-22 Thread Bob Sneidar
Trevor and Jerry worked on the Remo project, which was actually quite good. It ran as a separate application, but was able to access and save scripts. It also had a great application manager interface, quite superior to what we currently have. The "weakness" (if I can call it that) is that the

Re: [ANN] "language-livecode" 0.6.0 for Atom Editor

2015-10-22 Thread Peter Haworth
Well there's Mark Wieder's GLX2 editor plugin Mark? On Thu, Oct 22, 2015, 4:27 PM Bob Sneidar wrote: > Trevor and Jerry worked on the Remo project, which was actually quite > good. It ran as a separate application, but was able to access and save > scripts. It also had a great application mana

Re: [ANN] "language-livecode" 0.6.0 for Atom Editor

2015-10-22 Thread Richard Gaskin
Monte Goulding wrote: > Would moving the script editor to a separate process solve any > problems we know about? That does seem to be the question at hand here. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Systems Software Design and Development for the Desktop, Mobile, and the Web ___

Re: [ANN] "language-livecode" 0.6.0 for Atom Editor

2015-10-22 Thread Mike Kerner
Having the various tools and palettes be in separate threads would solve a variety of problems, IMHO, including having variables and properties in danger of getting stamped due to instances and scope being mixed, the need for so many front scripts, the problem that I finally developed a recipe for,

Re: [ANN] "language-livecode" 0.6.0 for Atom Editor

2015-10-22 Thread Richard Gaskin
Mike Kerner wrote: > Having the various tools and palettes be in separate threads would > solve a variety of problems, IMHO, including having variables and > properties in danger of getting stamped due to instances and scope > being mixed, the need for so many front scripts, the problem that I >

Re: [ANN] "language-livecode" 0.6.0 for Atom Editor

2015-10-22 Thread Mike Kerner
no. I came up with a recipe that the team could repeat, and then use to work on figuring out what's going on, so it's in process. On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 9:49 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: > Mike Kerner wrote: > > > Having the various tools and palettes be in separate threads would > > solve a varie

glx2

2015-10-22 Thread Mark Wieder
On 10/22/2015 05:05 PM, Peter Haworth wrote: Well there's Mark Wieder's GLX2 editor plugin Mark? Sheesh. I've been without internet at home for the last couple of days (dead dsl modem) and relying on gmane for list access. This thread has gotten long in the tooth, so excuse me if I don't r

Re: [ANN] "language-livecode" 0.6.0 for Atom Editor

2015-10-22 Thread Mark Wieder
On 10/22/2015 02:08 PM, Monte Goulding wrote: I’ve thought about this too. Actually in Atom we can have some code run whenever the file is saved. This seems nicer than constantly checking if the file is changed in a LC plugin. Should be fairly easy to setup something that sends datagrams back

Re: [ANN] "language-livecode" 0.6.0 for Atom Editor

2015-10-22 Thread Trevor DeVore
On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 5:28 PM, Monte Goulding wrote: > > I’m not doing much with LCB yet but I suspect getting live script errors > in that will be a bit of a boon too. > I've been using it tonight. It is awesome. Big productivity boost for LCB development. Thanks Monte and Peter! -- Trevor

Redraw issues using showAll

2015-10-22 Thread J. Landman Gay
I'm not sure if this is a bug or an expected behavior, so I'm asking here before submitting a report. A mobile stack uses "showAll" fullscreenMode and is set up with double-size images so that there will be no black borders at the edges of any size screen. Content is centered within the origin

Re: LC8 Geometry Manager

2015-10-22 Thread Richard Gaskin
Ali Lloyd wrote: > Can you submit enhancement requests for making the default large and > adding a size larger please? That way I won't forget about it :-) Done: > I don't remember having issues with the popping out of the menu before > (even