IPV6 SUPPORT

Hi all. I have customers that need to support IPV6 connections. Currently it seems not to be possible to connect to an IPV6 IP via livecode. Anyone else running into the problem? If so, what is the remedy? All the best, Malte ___ use-livecode mai

Re: mySQL: PHP or direct access?

On 2015-08-13 19:16, Peter Haworth wrote: What are the pluses and minuses you get from using php as a middleman to access a mySQL database on a server versus accessing the mySQL database directly from LC? There are good reasons other than security that you might want to indirect your database

Re: IPV6 SUPPORT

Hi Malte, You'll need an external to replicate this: http://discussion.monkeybreadsoftware.de/xojo/NetworkKit/files/Manual.pdf -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer Kv

Re: Business Application Framework

> illustrates to me that the community is very concerned about the > possibility of a two-tiered livecode environment where we need to pay extra > to get added premium features that we all will want. > I wasn't going to post but this is such and oxymoron, and so prevalent here I just can't constra

Re: Amateur looking for advice on web security/CGI folder....

I have been forced to use this method in the past and when I do, I encrypt the data before I send it to the server and decrypt it after I retrieve it. This will at least keep the data secure if you have to go that route. SKIP KIMPEL > On Aug 14, 2015, at 12:23 AM, Tim Selander wrote: > > OK,

Open Source Kickstarter Report Card

Following LiveCode’s announcement of its Business Application Framework, there has been quite a few comments regarding the fulfilment of promises made during the Kickstarter open source campaign. It’s a long time since the campaign and it is easy to get an incorrect perception. So I thought that

Re: Business Application Framework

Not contributing time and code does not necessarily make one a leech! Many of us contributed monetarily to the kickstarter, and I believe that earns us just as many beech points as anybody. Climb down off that high horse. We can hardly see you way up there. Everyone should be able to have input,

Re: Business Application Framework

Well said! Graham (Indy licence holder and Kickstarter contributor). > On 14 Aug 2015, at 14:12, Roger Eller wrote: > > Not contributing time and code does not necessarily make one a leech! Many > of us contributed monetarily to the kickstarter, and I believe that earns > us just as many beech

Re: Business Application Framework

As you read this, keep in mind I have no direct knowledge of the financial standing of RunRev, so its all supposition. (Plus, i'm not a big brain like most on the list, so ignore me if you wish) Lets get this out of the way first: Contributions here, and in the forums, as well as monetary contribu

Re: MySQL: PHP or direct access?

Ralph, See Peter's comments about non-security considerations too. Also note I have no security qualifications other than a mix of paranoia and a sometimes suspicious mind. > 3) The client uses https requests. I am assuming that the URL itself is > encrypted so any of the commands to my web se

Re: Business Application Framework

Receiving Social Security benefits is not leaching off of society. You pay in until you retire and then you receive a monthly check base on how much you paid in. Those who spent their life leaching off society and not paying in very much get nothing or very little. The problem in America with So

Re: Business Application Framework

> On 14 Aug 2015, at 15:13, JB wrote: > > If you are paying into a pension your whole life are you going > to call yourself a leach when you start collecting it? Is there an analogy here. In the UK people down the years have been paying into a pension be it Private or be it Government and wer

error ITMS-90511

Hi all, I submited an upgrade of a Mac app in which I used a data base and revBrowser. It was rejected and I received an error message telling that « dbsqlite.bundle is already in use by another application. The message is the same for revdb.bundle. I tried with LC 6.6.5 / 6.7.3 / 6.7.5 / 7.0

Re: Business Application Framework

And in every case of this type of theft you will probably find the global private management company Booz, Allen and Hamilton which was founded in Chicago, Illinois are connected. John Balgenorth On Aug 14, 2015, at 7:37 AM, Terence Heaford wrote: > >> On 14 Aug 2015, at 15:13, JB wrote: >>

Re: Business Application Framework

Monte Goulding wrote > People I have worked on projects with using lcVCS like Trevor and Martin > seem to love being about to review their change history etc. Martin didn’t > have any version control experience and now works largely on his own but > continues to find it helpful. Trevor simply wasn

Re: Business Application Framework

Kay, Good points, after ignoring the rhetoric. There could be argument about which features are included in all versions. Seems like zip and PDF support would be part of any modern authoring system. I contributed a substantial (for me) amount to the Kickstarter, appreciate the need for the mothe

Re: Extracting a reference to a stack

I do the same thing, except mine isn't a one liner. (Show off!) Bob S > On Aug 8, 2015, at 15:51 , Richard Gaskin wrote: > > dunbarx wrote: > >> Wait just a doggone minute. The long id of a control contains the stack >> reference. > > Yep - and being a lazy person this is how I get the stac

Re: RELEASE: 7.1.0-RC-1

Dear List Members, We are pleased to announce the release of LiveCode 7.1.0 RC 1. *Warning, this is a development release with new features which have the potential to cause issues. Please ensure you backup your stacks before testing this release.* New Features and changes: - Mobile s

Re: Business Application Framework

Kay, while I don't disagree with much of the substance of your post, I would suggest we all try to avoid comparisons with things that lead to emotion-laden phrases like "leeching off society". Open source is a gift, not an obligation, for both sides, developer and user alike. It's always a g

Re: mySQL: PHP or direct access?

Thanks Peter, that is indeed an important consideration. I believe there are ways to code around that but nevertheless the single connection middleware method would certainly be less complicated. I think I am now realizing the full implications of the direct and indirect methods of connecting to

iCalendar [.ics file] Open Source Lib for LiveCode

Over in the Create It with LiveCode Class we are working on the iCalendar App for the iPad, and we have a request to create an open source project to read and write to the iCalendar universal calendar file format [.ics]. It is used by several email and calendar programs, including Microsoft Outlook

Re: RELEASE: 7.1.0-RC-1

Fraser, do you have an idea why i cannot activate the business version although i have an existing commercial license + Pro subscription? Am i misssing something? Matthias > Am 14.08.2015 um 19:09 schrieb Fraser Gordon : > > Dear List Members, > > We are pleased to announce the release of L

Re: RELEASE: 7.1.0-RC-1

I discovered this too. I guess us lifetime Commercial version owners are now deemed to be “Indy”. Though you do have Pro subscription, which may make a difference. > On Aug 14, 2015, at 1:56 PM, Matthias Rebbe | M-R-D > wrote: > > Fraser, > > do you have an idea why i cannot activate the bu

Re: RELEASE: 7.1.0-RC-1

On 2015-08-14 19:56, Matthias Rebbe | M-R-D wrote: do you have an idea why i cannot activate the business version although i have an existing commercial license + Pro subscription? Am i misssing something? Pre-existing Commercial licenses activate what is now called Indy edition. If you hav

Re: iCalendar [.ics file] Open Source Lib for LiveCode

Hi Todd: There have been projects involving ICS on the mail list before. Here's one: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/pre-ANN-ICS-library-td467155 1.html Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, UX/UI Design On 8/14/15, 10:45 AM, "Todd Fabacher" wrote: >Over in

Re: mySQL: PHP or direct access?

On 2015-08-14 19:31, Peter Haworth wrote: Next decision - php or lc server. lc server is attractive since I already know the language but suffers from the drawback that not many web hosts support it. Yes, that's exactly the trade-off that needs to be made! I don't think there's any hard an

Re: mySQL: PHP or direct access?

I have used SQLite on a database server, but it has it's limitations. mySQL is the way to go for a long term solution. It is actually MUCH better when you start to go over everything that is needed for a true web server such as backup, load balance, multi user transactions and a VERY long list. We

Unicode files

I haven't got the materials yet so I can't test, but I am about to write a script that saves an array to a file on disk using arrayEncode (LC 7.) This is strictly for LC use; it will be saved and then re-loaded into the stack on next launch. Do I need to textEncode the data if I'm not going to

Re: mySQL: PHP or direct access?

Sure, I can certainly see a networked db would be necessary in that scenario but seems like for a simple, in-house system with a small number of users, could be useful just because of it's simplicity. On Fri, Aug 14, 2015 at 11:16 AM Peter TB Brett wrote: > On 2015-08-14 19:31, Peter Haworth wro

Re: mySQL: PHP or direct access?

Thanks Todd, that sounds very interesting. I will email you off list for more info. On Fri, Aug 14, 2015 at 11:28 AM Todd Fabacher wrote: > I have used SQLite on a database server, but it has it's limitations. mySQL > is the way to go for a long term solution. It is actually MUCH better when >

Re: Unicode files

On 2015-08-14 20:32, J. Landman Gay wrote: I haven't got the materials yet so I can't test, but I am about to write a script that saves an array to a file on disk using arrayEncode (LC 7.) This is strictly for LC use; it will be saved and then re-loaded into the stack on next launch. Do I need t

Re: Unicode files

I've done that without textEncode and it worked fine. Just watch out for the two arrayencoding algorithms used in different lc versions. On Fri, Aug 14, 2015 at 11:32 AM J. Landman Gay wrote: > I haven't got the materials yet so I can't test, but I am about to write > a script that saves an arr

Re: Business Application Framework

This conversation (about version control for LS projects worked on by teams, not really about BAF at all at this point) is beginning to go over my head. Long ago I worked in enormous projects (not far off 100 people) without comprehensive version control, and I guess we did something like Brahm

Re: mySQL: PHP or direct access?

Peter Haworth wrote: > Next decision - php or lc server. lc server is attractive since > I already know the language but suffers from the drawback that not > many web hosts support it. Any Web server that supports CGI can use LiveCode as easily as Ruby, Perl, or any other CGI. And IMNSHO, an

Re: Business Application Framework

Graham Samuel wrote: > This conversation (about version control for LS projects worked on > by teams, not really about BAF at all at this point) is beginning > to go over my head. Long ago I worked in enormous projects (not far > off 100 people) without comprehensive version control, and I guess

Re: Business Application Framework

On 8/14/2015 1:47 PM, Graham Samuel wrote: To me the ideal is a system which can be explained to a team in an hour and which everyone can then stick to. My (fractured) reading of this conversation gives me the idea that we are approaching Gnome-ville, where really nothing can be explained in an h

Re: Unicode files

Thanks Pete, I was hoping that was the answer. This particular project is LC-7 exclusive, so the two arrayEncodings won't be a problem. In fact, I'm going to ignore it altogether. :) On 8/14/2015 1:37 PM, Peter Haworth wrote: I've done that without textEncode and it worked fine. Just watch ou

Re: Unicode files

On 8/14/2015 1:36 PM, Peter TB Brett wrote: On 2015-08-14 20:32, J. Landman Gay wrote: I haven't got the materials yet so I can't test, but I am about to write a script that saves an array to a file on disk using arrayEncode (LC 7.) This is strictly for LC use; it will be saved and then re-load

Re: RELEASE: 7.1.0-RC-1

> Am 14.08.2015 um 20:06 schrieb Colin Holgate : > > I discovered this too. I guess us lifetime Commercial version owners are now > deemed to be “Indy”. Yes, but without the revenue limit. > Though you do have Pro subscription, which may make a difference. > > I even have an enterprise l

Re: Business Application Framework

My favorite quote of the week: "The most important thing anyone can do with LiveCode is to simply enjoy it. Without that, nothing else is possible." --Richard Gaskin ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to s

Re: Business Application Framework

J. Landman Gay wrote > On 8/14/2015 1:47 PM, Graham Samuel wrote: >> To me the ideal is a system which can be explained to a team in an >> hour and which everyone can then stick to. My (fractured) reading of >> this conversation gives me the idea that we are approaching >> Gnome-ville, where real

Re: Business Application Framework

> On 15 Aug 2015, at 1:09 am, Martin Koob wrote: > > Monte has not charged for lcVCS to this point but I will happily pay him for > it when there is an opportunity to do so. > > His original plan to provide the lcVCS engine as GPL and then charge for the > IDE plugin and command line interfac

Re: Business Application Framework

> The git IDE integration on the other hand could be a plugin (paid or open > source) or part of the IDE that comes out of the box. It’s where the magic > happens. Stuff like the toolTip on the script line numbers showing the author > and commit message. So I’d rather focus on that stuff. Monte

Re: Business Application Framework

> On 15 Aug 2015, at 7:23 am, Malte Brill wrote: > > how much would you think we need to raise to make your work on this > worthwhile? > > I’d surely be willing to put in a couple of €s if we had something that > installs easiely and is easy to use. (Of course best coming out of the box) I >

Downloaded stacks on iOS

Interesting find in my morning reading: This little startup is solving one of the biggest frustrations with Apple's App Store What his AppHub service does is the equivalent of LiveCode developers handling u

Curl from shell

I'm trying to call curl from a shell command from within LC to get info from a website via their API and am getting a "could not resolve host" error. I can successfully run curl from the terminal (on Mac). This is totally new territory for me, so I have almost no idea of what I'm doing! I'm usi

Re: Business Application Framework

Monte Goulding wrote: > It’s a bit of a “how long is a piece of string” question at the > moment. I can’t promise to make anything work out of the box in > the IDE. If that’s what the community wants (I want it too) then > it’s probably better that whatever funding is raised goes to > Edinburgh so

Re: Downloaded stacks on iOS

I think they are managing to get away with this because their apps are JavaScript which is exempted in the clause. > On 15 Aug 2015, at 7:59 am, Richard Gaskin wrote: > > Interesting find in my morning reading: > > This little startup is solving one of the biggest frustrations with Apple's > A

Re: Curl from shell

Marty Knapp wrote: I'm trying to call curl from a shell command from within LC to get info from a website via their API and am getting a "could not resolve host" error. I can successfully run curl from the terminal (on Mac). This is totally new territory for me, so I have almost no idea of what

Re: Business Application Framework

> On 15 Aug 2015, at 8:11 am, Richard Gaskin wrote: > > Why not a bundled plugin? There's good precedent with LC shipping with > third-party plugins bundled, and that makes it instantly available to the > widest audience while still managing expectations in terms of support. That would be po

Re: mySQL: PHP or direct access?

I just thought of a downside to using lc as db middleware if I choose to use SQLite. The SQLite library supplied with LC is months old, and a large number of bug fixes and several useful enhancements are missing. I have filed QCC reports about this and also asked for the ability to load our own s

Bug getting group name, plse check

Folks: I just encountered what appears to be an error in the group function. To duplicate, make a new stack. Make a graphic for a background Make a button group the graphic and the background Name the group something, anything, like “myGroup” inside the button script, put: on mouseUp send "ge

Re: Business Application Framework

> In terms of the remaining work, would it be helpful if you had one or two > other people to lend a hand with that? I didn’t really answer this question sorry. Probably the most helpful would be more documentation. Perhaps videos explaining things? I have some docs for lcVCS here https://githu

Re: Curl from shell

Thanks Richard, I just solved it - I didn't have it formatted correctly for LC. In Terminal I could just enter: curl -H "Accept: text/xml" https://API_KEY:api_sec...@www.thewebsite.com/api/v1/data In LC I had it formatted like this (it compiled): get shell("curl -H" && "Accept: text/xml" &&

Re: Bug getting group name, plse check

Is it valid to say (in the mouseUp script) . of grp me into Isn't 'me' a button, so "grp me" is unclear ? [ or did you mean to sayput the short name of grp tGroup into ... ? ] -- Alex. On 14/08/2015 23:50, William Prothero wrote: Folks: I just encountered what appears to be an er

Re: Business Application Framework

> On 15 Aug 2015, at 8:46 am, Monte Goulding > wrote: > >> In terms of the remaining work, would it be helpful if you had one or two >> other people to lend a hand with that? > > I didn’t really answer this question sorry. Probably the most helpful would > be more documentation. Perhaps vide

Re: iCalendar [.ics file] Open Source Lib for LiveCode

And to follow up on that posting from me of almost two years ago at the time there was no interest (no beta users, ...) I primarily developed it for one project, which was successful enough, but had no need to develop it any further. Without either beta testers or any on-going use by myse

Re: mySQL: PHP or direct access?

Peter Haworth wrote: I just thought of a downside to using lc as db middleware if I choose to use SQLite. The SQLite library supplied with LC is months old, and a large number of bug fixes and several useful enhancements are missing. I have filed QCC reports about this and also asked for the a

Re: Bug getting group name, plse check

Alex: “the long name of me” is a complete reference to an object, which contains the group name. What I was trying to do is get the name of the group that the button is in. I can parse it from the long name of me, but thought it would pull it out of “me”. Anyway, what do I know? If I’m wrong t

Re: mySQL: PHP or direct access?

> On 15 Aug 2015, at 9:49 am, Richard Gaskin wrote: > > We need better integration with upstreams. In addition to SQLite, there's > Skia and others. At any time any one of them may have bug fixes that we'll > want to include ASAP. > > Anyone here review the revDB externals for SQlite deeply

Re: iCalendar [.ics file] Open Source Lib for LiveCode

Alex Tweedly wrote: > I primarily developed it for one project, which was successful > enough, but had no need to develop it any further. Without either > beta testers or any on-going use by myself, it didn't seem quite > ready for release (clearly not as a commercial project), so it's > just bee

Re: mySQL: PHP or direct access?

> On 15 Aug 2015, at 9:50 am, Monte Goulding > wrote: > >> There's gotta be a way to automate that > > Well yes there is, these things should be submodules of the engine repo so > that keeping them updated should be as simple as checking out their most > recent tagged release. Not all th

Re: Bug getting group name, plse check

Would it work for you needs by just putting this in the button script? put the owner of me be well, randy Randy Hengst www.classroomFocusedSoftware.com > On Aug 14, 2015, at 6:56 PM, William Prothero wrote: > > Alex: > “the long name of me” is a complete reference to an object, which contain

Re: Bug getting group name, plse check

William Prothero wrote: > “the long name of me” is a complete reference to an object, which > contains the group name. What I was trying to do is get the name of > the group that the button is in. I can parse it from the long name of > me, but thought it would pull it out of “me”. > > Anyway, wha

Re: mySQL: PHP or direct access?

Monte Goulding wrote: > BTW I’ve almost definitely oversimplified this. With the number of > platforms LC is deployed on I’d be surprised if there isn’t some > manual tweaking of project/make files required quite often with a > new version of a library. Then when you consider the number of > libra

Re: mySQL: PHP or direct access?

> On 15 Aug 2015, at 10:35 am, Richard Gaskin > wrote: > > Am I being too optimistic here? Yes it should be possible to automate updates, their CI server should tell them if the automatic update failed for some reason and then they can jump in manually. I’d be surprised if they weren’t plann

Re: iCalendar [.ics file] Open Source Lib for LiveCode

How many years is that copyright good for? John Balgenorth On Aug 14, 2015, at 5:17 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: > > Just about anything other than explicit transfer to the public domain retains > your copyright as the creator of the work. > > > -- > Richard Gaskin > LiveCode Community Manag

Re:

Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 13, 2015, at 12:28 PM, use-livecode-requ...@lists.runrev.com wrote: > > Send use-livecode mailing list submissions to >use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-

Re:

PREVIOUS POST MISTAKENLY SENT,PLEASE DO NOT POST PREVIOUS NOR THIS MESSAGE ) Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 14, 2015, at 8:54 PM, Mick Collins wrote: > > > ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please vis

Re: iCalendar [.ics file] Open Source Lib for LiveCode

John Balgenorth wrote: On Aug 14, 2015, at 5:17 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: >> Just about anything other than explicit transfer to the public >> domain retains your copyright as the creator of the work. > > How many years is that copyright good for? Depends. It varies by jurisdiction, and if you'

Re: iCalendar [.ics file] Open Source Lib for LiveCode

Thanks Richard! Money can’t buy everything but it can buy a good tunnel. Corruption can work wonders. John Balgenorth On Aug 14, 2015, at 6:30 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: > John Balgenorth wrote: > > On Aug 14, 2015, at 5:17 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: > >> Just about anything other than explic

Re: Describing LiveCode

Thanks for replying, Bill, I expect there are more than a few caveats to consider. As I implied, in the Moore method an average of maybe 1% of class time is spent by the professor speaking, 0% in lecture mode. I think it would be more in a programming class, but still not enough to nod one out.

Re: Downloaded stacks on iOS

Has any LC developer actually tried? "Third, Apple's stance on this is a little ambiguous. It seems to be allowed by Apple's rules, so long as you don't use your newfound app-updating superpowers to "turn your Dora the Explorer app into a zombie apocalypse app," Arbesfeld says." e.g. if I ha

Re: iCalendar [.ics file] Open Source Lib for LiveCode

Andre had some amazing libs for this it was not iCal specific but broader "vObjectLib" he called it... with that you could roll your own functions easily for iCal.. I use to use it a lot and plan to use it again in a future mobile app. snippets from my old code # Create a new entry p

Re: Downloaded stacks on iOS

Brahmanathaswami wrote: Brahmanathaswami brahma at hindu.org Has anyone actually tried this? Can we do it on Android? There's no technical reason this couldn't be done. Most of my desktop apps do this, and I do all my mobile testing with a plugin that copies the stack file I'm working on to

Re: mySQL: PHP or direct access?

On 08/14/2015 04:50 PM, Monte Goulding wrote: I believe Mark Wieder had a good look at revDB and decided to stop looking ;-) Yeah, partly I ran away screaming after poking around under the hood, and partly the rev team in 2006 declared all the db bugs in bugzilla as 'resolved' in favor of a

Re: Curl from shell

On 08/14/2015 04:03 PM, Marty Knapp wrote: Thanks Richard, I just solved it - I didn't have it formatted correctly for LC. Sheesh! I didn't even get a chance to reply. Yeah, I use curl and/or wget all the time from LC to get around the limitations of liburl. A little tricky getting the syntax

Re: Downloaded stacks on iOS

It's not vague at all. It's right there in the article and the only way these guys can do what they are doing is because their apps are JavaScript as I said before. Read the clause it explicitly rules out what you are talking about unless it's JavaScript run in WebKit or JavaScriptCore. Sent fr

Re: Restore corrupted stack

Yes, I understand the change in stack format. Unfortunately the stack won’t open in any version of LC 7. I always get the stack corrupted dialog. Peter > On Aug 13, 2015, at 8:46 AM, J. Landman Gay wrote: > > On August 13, 2015 4:24:33 AM CDT, Peter Bogdanoff wrote: >> >> I was working in LC