Re: [ANN] Help with a LiveCode Presentation/Demo

2013-06-05 Thread Monte Goulding
On 05/06/2013, at 4:54 PM, Peter W A Wood wrote: > > It may be a very poor test but it shows how much faster JavaScript can be > when compared to LiveCode (and hence the dangers of such comparisons). If you change your code to use put "!" after tHW (which is more similar to +=) it only takes

Re: (OT) Software Patents and computer based instruction

2013-06-05 Thread Richmond
On 06/05/2013 12:16 AM, J. Landman Gay wrote: On 6/4/13 1:40 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: Timothy Bleiler wrote: > The patent process is clearly badly broken. Case in point: Method of swinging on a swing So when a kid does this without being aware of t

Re: Monochrome Woes

2013-06-05 Thread Richmond
On 06/05/2013 01:10 AM, Mark Wieder wrote: Richmond writes: For those who are interested, the icons for LC 6.0.2 are stored in the revGeneralIcons stack. Looking into this again, the icons for the Application Browser are stored on card id 200593 of the revIcons stack. They're rather dismal. Y

Re: (OT) Software Patents and computer based instruction

2013-06-05 Thread Richmond
On 06/05/2013 02:30 AM, Scott Rossi wrote: Related: I have an illustrator friend who's done work for Marvel, Disney, and similar large media companies. When it comes to rights/ownership of work (which is always the company), the contracts provided by the media companies literally use the word "u

Re: [ANN] Help with a LiveCode Presentation/Demo

2013-06-05 Thread Peter W A Wood
Monte On 5 Jun 2013, at 15:10, Monte Goulding wrote: >> It may be a very poor test but it shows how much faster JavaScript can be >> when compared to LiveCode (and hence the dangers of such comparisons). > > If you change your code to use put "!" after tHW (which is more similar to > +=) it onl

Re: [ANN] Help with a LiveCode Presentation/Demo

2013-06-05 Thread Monte Goulding
Actually the original code was adding the string and ! To itself so it grew exponentially rather than linearly. The final string would have been very very very long... -- M E R Goulding Software development services mergExt - There's an external for that! On 05/06/2013, at 6:07 PM, Peter W A W

Dismal icons and other things I don't like?

2013-06-05 Thread Richmond
This is where I am asking for some legal help. I intend to make colour replacement png images for the monochrome png images I don't like in Livecode 6.x.x and offer them in a stack with a button containing a replacement script, as well as a button that will restore the monochrome png images.

Re: First App rejected for odd reasons

2013-06-05 Thread Mark Wilcox
>> I may be wrong about this (can anyone verify?), but if you're building for >> iOS 5 or later, you should be perfectly safe selecting armv7 only and >> building for that, since any devices capable of running iOS 5 and above are >> armv7 devices only. Yes, this is correct and a good idea - th

Re: mobile image gallery / slider - web or standalone based?

2013-06-05 Thread Mark Wilcox
Hi Matthias, If you go the LiveCode route you can download updates to images in the background to add/replace existing ones in the app - just make sure you include the images external to the stack.  No need to do app updates to replace images. If you went the browser/jqtouch route in a native a

Re: [ANN] Help with a LiveCode Presentation/Demo

2013-06-05 Thread Kay C Lan
Monte, Very interesting, but you've made a mistake as well. Both your code and Peter's produce exactly the same string, there is no exponential growth. I created the following script: on mouseUp -- yes it's not a million cause I couldn't wait put 10 into tRepeats put the long seconds

Re: [ANN] Help with a LiveCode Presentation/Demo

2013-06-05 Thread Kay C Lan
Sorry, typo... if (tWH = tWH) then should actually read if (tWH = tHW) then It really does produce the same string, I wasn't trying to rig the results. Thanks On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 5:53 PM, Kay C Lan wrote: > Monte, > > Very interesting, but you've made a mistake as well. Both your code an

Re: RELEASE: LiveCode 6.0.2

2013-06-05 Thread Ralf Bitter
On 04.06.2013, at 22:49, Matthias Rebbe wrote: > Hi Ben, > > when will LC Server 6.02 commercial be released? > > Regards, > > Matthias > This is definitely a reasonable question because: The community version of LiveCode server prevents using protected stacks. The current commercial ve

Datagrid Header alignment?

2013-06-05 Thread Klaus major-k
Hi friends, see subject, I searched the complete DataGrid PDF but did not find any info about aligning the HEADER of a TABLE datagrid. Maybe this feature is really missing in the DG lib? Any hints VERY welcome before I "feature request" this. :-) Best Klaus -- Klaus Major http://www.major-k.d

Re: [ANN] Help with a LiveCode Presentation/Demo

2013-06-05 Thread Monte Goulding
On 05/06/2013, at 7:53 PM, Kay C Lan wrote: > Both your code and > Peter's produce exactly the same string, there is no exponential growth. Ah... I was trying to explain the difference but replying from my phone where I couldn't see the original code... serves me right... -- Monte Goulding M

Successful recipe for LC iPhone apps...

2013-06-05 Thread John Dixon
There seems to be lots of stories about rejection of LC apps from the iTunes store around.. What is the position regarding submission these days in the ever shifting sands of Apples' whims ? Has the iphone app got to be built at 640 x 960 ? What has position independant code got to do with build

first steps in iOS, native scroll a datagrid

2013-06-05 Thread Klaus major-k
Hi friends, I am currently making my first serious stps in iOS and cannot get my DG to scroll? I am sure I am missing something obvious, but cannot find a solution. In any case the DG does not scroll :-/ Any hints much appreciated, thanks! Here my card script: ##

Re: Successful recipe for LC iPhone apps...

2013-06-05 Thread Magicgate Software - Skip Kimpel
>From what I understand, yes, it needs to be built for iPhone 5 specifications or it will be rejected. SKIP On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 8:10 AM, John Dixon wrote: > There seems to be lots of stories about rejection of LC apps from the > iTunes store around.. > What is the position regarding submiss

Re: First App rejected for odd reasons

2013-06-05 Thread Thomas McGrath III
Mark, At first I wanted to object to the need for JPEG only for large images as all of the research that I have done (especially concerning transparency issues) has told me to never use JPEG (except for the web) in most of my apps but then I realized that I have not tested those same results fo

Re: first steps in iOS, native scroll a datagrid

2013-06-05 Thread Gerry Orkin
Your datagrid should be an object within a locked group. You then set the vScroll of the datagrid relative to that group when the user swipes the screen.. g On 05/06/2013, at 10:29 PM, Klaus major-k wrote: > set the dgvScroll of grp "DataGrid 1" to OffsetY ___

Re: Successful recipe for LC iPhone apps...

2013-06-05 Thread Rick Harrison
Hi John, Apple told developers that starting in May all apps must provide support for retina display devices at the proper resolution for those devices. Its just another pain in the a… Good luck! Rick On Jun 5, 2013, at 8:10 AM, John Dixon wrote: > There seems to be lots of stories about r

Re: RELEASE: LiveCode 6.0.2

2013-06-05 Thread Richmond
On 06/05/2013 01:39 PM, Ralf Bitter wrote: On 04.06.2013, at 22:49, Matthias Rebbe wrote: Hi Ben, when will LC Server 6.02 commercial be released? Regards, Matthias This is definitely a reasonable question because: The community version of LiveCode server prevents using protected stack

Re: first steps in iOS, native scroll a datagrid

2013-06-05 Thread Klaus major-k
Hi Gery, Am 05.06.2013 um 15:15 schrieb Gerry Orkin : > Your datagrid should be an object within a locked group. You then set the > vScroll of the datagrid relative to that group when the user swipes the > screen.. thank you! OK, so I need to GROUP the datagrid, anything else I need to do? S

Re: First App rejected for odd reasons

2013-06-05 Thread Thomas McGrath III
I hope that didn't sound argumentative. I think this topic needs more discussion and input. Thanks again Mark for the input on this. Tom -- Tom McGrath III http://lazyriver.on-rev.com mcgra...@mac.com On Jun 5, 2013, at 8:41 AM, Thomas McGrath III wrote: > Mark, > > At first I wanted to obj

Re: first steps in iOS, native scroll a datagrid

2013-06-05 Thread Alan Stenhouse
Hi Klaus that should work as you've got it. However, you have an error in the following line: put the width of grp "Datafgrid 1" into tWidth it should be grp "Datagrid 1" -- i.e. no "f" in the name That may explain why your scroller isn't quite working as you expect. Another thing to do in

Re: first steps in iOS, native scroll a datagrid

2013-06-05 Thread Colin Holgate
It will help if you use the right name: put the width of grp "Datafgrid 1" into tWidth I don't think that "f" should be in there. On Jun 5, 2013, at 9:26 AM, Klaus major-k wrote: > > >OK, so I need to GROUP the datagrid, anything else I need to do? > Sorry, complete newbie to THIS stuff 8-

Re: first steps in iOS, native scroll a datagrid

2013-06-05 Thread Klaus major-k
Hi all, Am 05.06.2013 um 14:29 schrieb Klaus major-k : > Hi friends, > > I am currently making my first serious stps in iOS and cannot get my DG to > scroll? > I am sure I am missing something obvious, but cannot find a solution. > In any case the DG does not scroll :-/ > > Any hints much appr

Re: first steps in iOS, native scroll a datagrid

2013-06-05 Thread Klaus major-k
Hi Colin, Am 05.06.2013 um 16:35 schrieb Colin Holgate : > It will help if you use the right name: > put the width of grp "Datafgrid 1" into tWidth > I don't think that "f" should be in there. yep, that was typo, but did not fix the problem. As I wrote in my last post, creating the native cont

Re: First App rejected for odd reasons

2013-06-05 Thread Mark Wilcox
Hi Tom, No need to test JPEGs again on iOS/Android - the JPEG format itself doesn't support transparency! :) If you need transparency then there is another option which is to store the image and it's mask (effectively alpha channel) separately, although I've not worked with these features in L

Re: RELEASE: LiveCode 6.0.2

2013-06-05 Thread Ralf Bitter
5.0.2 is the current commercial version of the server engine. At least this is what I get at the store having an active commercial license. Ralf On 05.06.2013, at 15:18, Richmond wrote: >> This is definitely a reasonable question because: >> >> The community version of LiveCode server preven

Re: Successful recipe for LC iPhone apps...

2013-06-05 Thread Mark Wilcox
I haven't submitted an app but here's my take on the official Apple stance and what it means: All apps have to support the iPhone 5 resolution (or 4" Retina) and retina displays since May 1st. The iPhone 5 thing is clear - your app must scale to that resolution and not run in compatibility mod

RE: Successful recipe for LC iPhone apps...

2013-06-05 Thread John Dixon
Mark... Thanks for the reply... I have already a couple of apps in the store that will run at the correct size, ie both on the iphone 4 and the iphone 5... I am not using any images... I am vague about whether we have to now only develop in a stack size of 640 x 960, for the iphone 4 or 640 x 1

Re: Datagrid Header alignment?

2013-06-05 Thread Peter Haworth
set the dgHeaderAilgnment[]of group "yourdtagridname" to "left" ( or center or right). Pete lcSQL Software On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 3:47 AM, Klaus major-k wrote: > Hi friends, > > see subject, I searched the complete DataGrid PDF but did not find any info > about aligning

Re: [ANN] Help with a LiveCode Presentation/Demo

2013-06-05 Thread Richard Gaskin
Monte Goulding wrote: > On 05/06/2013, at 4:54 PM, Peter W A Wood wrote: > >> It may be a very poor test but it shows how much faster JavaScript >> can be when compared to LiveCode (and hence the dangers of such >> comparisons). > > If you change your code to use put "!" after tHW (which is more >

Re: Datagrid Header alignment?

2013-06-05 Thread Klaus major-k
Hi Pete, Am 05.06.2013 um 17:50 schrieb Peter Haworth : > set the dgHeaderAilgnment[]of group "yourdtagridname" to > "left" ( or center or right). AHA! Thanks a lot! Looks like this did not make into the "Datagrid PDF" 8-) > Pete > lcSQL Software > > > On Wed, Jun 5, 2

Re: Successful recipe for LC iPhone apps...

2013-06-05 Thread Mark Wilcox
Not using images?  Are you using images for your graphics/buttons, or is everything procedurally generated?  My guess is that it won't matter at least at the moment, although procedurally generated stuff is definitely OK. The default.png and variants (e.g. default-5...@2x.png) I mentioned are wh

revBrowser Error

2013-06-05 Thread Graham Pearson
In using revBrowser, I am getting an error message from a web server that shows an error of java.lang.InterruptedException and if I view the same page in my browser outside of Livecode I do not get the same error. In my application I can click on another button to display a different Map Area and s

Huge pdf output tamed: [was:dealing with these *huge* pdf files generated]

2013-06-05 Thread Dr. Hawkins
Wow. I set a little loop that set the 3d to false for *all* of my output fields. What was a 2.1 mb output is now 536k . . . Acrobat can shrink this to 384k. -- Dr. Richard E. Hawkins, Esq. (702) 508-8462 ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lis

Re: randomly order a list

2013-06-05 Thread Geoff Canyon
What code were you using Alex? I thought the first step(s) of the MD5 process reduce (or grow) whatever input string is given to 128 bits, and then everything from there operates on the 128 bit data. Likewise for SHA1, in 160 bits. In other words, the size of the individual strings should have a l

Re: RELEASE: LiveCode 6.0.2

2013-06-05 Thread stephen barncard
I have here and have installed a commercial version "LiveCodeServer-6_0_0_rc_1-Linux" but can't tell you where to find it online. I got it before the kickstarter. It wasn't available for very long. Runrev is currently 'funny' about making old versions available ... sqb On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 7:

Re: revBrowser Error

2013-06-05 Thread Jan Schenkel
Hi Graham, Is the server returning an error page or is this happening on the client? Which platform is this on? Does the web page contain any applets? Jan Schenkel   = Quartam Reports & PDF Library for LiveCode www.quartam.com = "As we grow older, we grow both wiser and more foolish at

Re: RELEASE: LiveCode 6.0.2

2013-06-05 Thread Matthias Rebbe
Hi, spoke to Heather today. There definitely will be a commercial version of LC server 6.x. There is an issue what has to be fixed. After that LC server commercial will be released. Regards, Matthias Am 05.06.2013 um 20:04 schrieb stephen barncard : > I have here and have installed a commerc

Is revBrowser all there is?

2013-06-05 Thread Andrew Kluthe
Hey, I currently do most of my reporting and charting for livecode programs in html and launch it in an external browser. I tried using revBrowser on windows to show these reports right inside of livecode programs, but have found that the javascript support is less than robust for the js librarie

Mac OS X standalone settings CFBundleVersionString = CFBundleShortVersionString

2013-06-05 Thread Martin Koob
I am setting the version for my Mac OS X application and I noticed that there is not a way to set theCFBundleVersion. In the standalone application settings for Mac OS X there are the following fields: Short Version = CFBundleShortVersionString which is supposed to be "a string comprised of th

Re: RELEASE: LiveCode 6.0.2

2013-06-05 Thread Richmond
On 06/05/2013 09:04 PM, stephen barncard wrote: I have here and have installed a commercial version "LiveCodeServer-6_0_0_rc_1-Linux" but can't tell you where to find it online. I got it before the kickstarter. It wasn't available for very long. Runrev is currently 'funny' about making old versi

Re: RELEASE: LiveCode 6.0.2

2013-06-05 Thread Martin Koob
On Mac OS X I noticed that the build number that is reported in the 'About' box is 1521 but the version string that is returned from 'get info' from the finder is 6.0.2-rc-1.1520. Is it the version string in the pList that has to be updated? (just saw this because I was looking at how the vers

DB/Reporting Tools

2013-06-05 Thread Mike Kerner
I'm messing with Valentina right now for doing reporting/etc. Does anybody have any other tools they'd recommend for SQLite/MySQL? -- On the first day, God created the heavens and the Earth On the second day, God created the oceans. On the third day, God put the animals on hold for a few hours,

[off-ish]Why investors should make it rain on developer tools

2013-06-05 Thread Mike Kerner
http://venturebeat.com/2013/06/04/why-investors-should-make-it-rain-on-developer-tools/ -- On the first day, God created the heavens and the Earth On the second day, God created the oceans. On the third day, God put the animals on hold for a few hours, and did a little di

Re: DB/Reporting Tools

2013-06-05 Thread Andrew Kluthe
I tried a lot of the different options for LC Reporting and most of them were a lot of work to setup for reports that aren't the prettiest. I never tried the valentina stuff, but for exporting to word documents, I like WordReport. I use this for a lease writing program. For everything else includ

Re: (OT) Software Patents and computer based instruction

2013-06-05 Thread Ben Rubinstein
On 04/06/2013 20:22, Mark Wieder wrote: Richard Gaskin writes: Case in point: Method of swinging on a swing LOL. "Actual jungle forestry is not required." Even better is the "Referenced by" list: US20110239315 * Feb 2, 2011 Sep 29, 2011Bona

RE: DB/Reporting Tools

2013-06-05 Thread Lynn Fredricks
> I'm messing with Valentina right now for doing reporting/etc. > Does anybody have any other tools they'd recommend for SQLite/MySQL? Hi Mike, I believe reporting falls into two camps when it comes to RAD tools like LiveCode, irrespective of the actual reporting features: On one hand, you mi

Re: [ANN] Help with a LiveCode Presentation/Demo

2013-06-05 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 6/5/13 1:07 AM, Kay C Lan wrote: Folks, I've volunteered to give a presentation/demo of LC Community at an up coming Mac User Group meeting. In preparation for this I've thrown together a very rough history and feature set of HyperCard, SuperCard, MetaCard, Revolution/LiveCode. It can be fou

Re: [ANN] Help with a LiveCode Presentation/Demo

2013-06-05 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 6/5/13 1:07 AM, Kay C Lan wrote: Folks, I've volunteered to give a presentation/demo of LC Community at an up coming Mac User Group meeting. In preparation for this I've thrown together a very rough history and feature set of HyperCard, SuperCard, MetaCard, Revolution/LiveCode. It can be fou

Re: randomly order a list

2013-06-05 Thread Alex Tweedly
Your code has a minor bug :-) You "get MD5Digest(S[1]) " instead of using S[i] Here's the code I used (now extended to check different lengths). constant K=10-- the number of iterations constant KLength=20 -- this * 36 --> the number of chars per line on mouseup put empty into ms

Re: randomly order a list

2013-06-05 Thread Dar Scott
MD5 works on 512-bit blocks. The message is padded so that it is 64 bits short of being a multiple of 512. It works on all of those blocks iteratively, generating a 128-bit value each iteration and consuming one. The final 128-bit value is the hash. So, it does crank away on all of the bit

Re: revBrowser Error

2013-06-05 Thread Graham Pearson
I have an idea it is on the server since my web server is Coldfusion powered by Java and Apache. I can view the same page on multiple computers at the same time without an issue being reported. The error is only every once and awhile within the revBrowser. The page I am calling is an HTML5 Google M

Re: [ANN] Help with a LiveCode Presentation/Demo

2013-06-05 Thread Kay C Lan
Thanks Jacque for the amendments. Yes the Feature List is reference to Today, and whilst I'm aware that HUGs still exist, I don't think I'd be recommending anyone spend their valuable time registering there today. It's funny, way back when, the reason I got into HyperCard was because a) it came w

Re: randomly order a list

2013-06-05 Thread Dar Scott
Here are some timings of random functions going in another direction. Results for an old mac mini: Works better on OS X. Time for a 1000 X loop divided by 1000. 134 ns get empty 227 ns get alphabet 288 ns get random(999) 327 ns get md5Digest(alphabet) 890 ns get md5Digest(startLongSeconds & al

Getting Kanji from a .csv file

2013-06-05 Thread Howard Bornstein
I have a client who wants me to do some processing on a spreadsheet file that has been saved in .csv format. One of the fields contain either English or Japanese. When I look at the fields with the Japanese, it looks like gibberish. It does not display as Kanji. I believe the full data is still th

Where to write application data

2013-06-05 Thread Devin Asay
Hi folks, I know this discussion pops up here from time to time, but I can't find what I remember seeing. I checked Nabble, but no luck. For desktop applications, where can our applications legally write to for the three main OS's? I'm not talking about sandboxing for Mac App Store apps, just

Re: Where to write application data

2013-06-05 Thread Warren Samples
On 06/05/2013 09:40 PM, Devin Asay wrote: For Linux: No idea! In general in Linux, user specific data will go into an invisible directory with the application name, in the user's home directory. So, you can do something like put tData into URL "file:~/.myapp/the_data_file" remembering tha

Re: Getting Kanji from a .csv file

2013-06-05 Thread Phil Davis
Hi Howard, From one unicode-ignorant soul to another - Devin's explanation about LC & Unicode got me started: http://livecode.byu.edu/unicode/unicodeInRev.php -- the good part is about a third of the way down Using this info + LC's various unicode functions + the styledText of a field,

Re: Getting Kanji from a .csv file

2013-06-05 Thread Dar Scott
There are several standard ways to encode Japanese. If we assume the encoding is Unicode, there are several encoding forms. Some applications put a byte-order character at the beginning of a Unicode file. This can be used not only to determine byte order, but also the encoding form. If you se

Caching Deleting Reusing Storing files from Internet

2013-06-05 Thread Alejandro Tejada
Hi all, I have run this script on Windows, so please run this script in Mac, Linux, Android and iOS and tell me if these files are downloaded everytime that you run the script: on mouseUp create img set the text of last img to URL " https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/3834621/cat1.gif";

Re: Where to write application data

2013-06-05 Thread Peter Haworth
Hi Devin, I've always used the location you mentioned for OSX with a folder for even the company name of the application name within it.. For Windows, I use specialFolderpath(26) which I think resolves to /Users/AppData/Roaming (maybe different on different versions of Windows. Not sure there's a

Re: revBrowser Error

2013-06-05 Thread Jan Schenkel
If it's on the server, you could try and wade through the server's Apache and ColdFusion websites to try and spot the difference. A java.lang.InterruptedException here sounds like CondFusion is spawning a separate thread ofr the request and killing it off when it takes too long. And I doubt it on

Re: DB/Reporting Tools

2013-06-05 Thread Ruslan Zasukhin
On 6/6/13 12:47 AM, "Lynn Fredricks" wrote: Hi Mike, Just now I have to see you post to this list questions. And I already have made 2 answer to you private I believe that answers are fine for community also to be archived. I will resend them now here also. >> I'm messing with Valentina right

FW: Valentina Reports Question

2013-06-05 Thread Ruslan Zasukhin
-- Forwarded Message From: Ruslan Zasukhin Date: Thu, 06 Jun 2013 08:16:55 +0300 On 6/6/13 12:40 AM, "Lynn Fredricks" wrote: Hi Mike, I will answer in few letters, separating issues. 1) In tickets I have direct you to our FAQs, because just couple weeks ago, we have add this FAQ about prob

FW: Valentina Reports Question -- video tutorials, docs, ...

2013-06-05 Thread Ruslan Zasukhin
-- Forwarded Message From: Ruslan Zasukhin Date: Thu, 06 Jun 2013 08:50:58 +0300 Hi Mike, > I'm evaluating Valentina for our purposes here, but it's a little hard since > in the demo, everything I do in the reports engine gets booted the moment I > quit (or, like this morning, when the pr