Modularised engine, Metacard, and other daft thoughts.

2013-02-02 Thread Richmond
If the open source engine is to be modularised would it be possible to lift it out of the Open Source version of Livecode (this naming is getting clunky: there needs to be another name for this) and drop it into a Metacard shell? After all, Metacard is (bar the engine) now O-S. Would it be possi

mobilePick with "checkmark"

2013-02-02 Thread Scott Morrow
I'm sure I had this working at one point but I seem unable to get a check mark to appear using mobilePick. Everything else about the appearance and content of the list picker seems to be as expected. I didn't notice any mention of this in QCC (bugzilla) or on the list. I'm testing this under i

Re: to find the first numeric line?

2013-02-02 Thread Alex Tweedly
There may well be a bug in my code - I wrote it between midnight and 1am last night, tested it on 50 random cases, and let it be free :-)I'll look over it carefully this morning and see if I find anything. But no, there isn't a problem with many short lines. We have a block of data where t

Re: Trying to make economic sense of open sourcing livecode

2013-02-02 Thread François Chaplais
Thanks for the kind answer, Richard. Le 2 févr. 2013 à 02:11, Richard Gaskin a écrit : > François Chaplais wrote: > > OK, open source is the cure for cancer... > > So I spend months, which become years implementing, say, a decent > > math library for Livecode > > Who pays the rent? > > Al

Re: ho lee kow

2013-02-02 Thread Colin Holgate
That may be awkward, after him telling me that he doesn't tweet that kind of thing. On Feb 2, 2013, at 12:54 AM, Monte Goulding wrote: > >He backed it!... I just thanked him on twitter... maybe others should? ___ use-livecode mailing list use-liveco

Re: ho lee kow

2013-02-02 Thread Björnke von Gierke
Ah, but we don't know that, all we know is that he shows up as a pledger ;-) On 02.02.2013, at 11:08, Colin Holgate wrote: > That may be awkward, after him telling me that he doesn't tweet that kind of > thing. > > > On Feb 2, 2013, at 12:54 AM, Monte Goulding > wrote: > >>> He backed it!..

Apple (et alia) !!

2013-02-02 Thread Francis Nugent Dixon
Hi from Beautiful Brittany, Phase 1 - Your data isn't in your computer. It's somewhere ! And to get to it, you need to pay, on a rental basis ! Phase 2 - The application necessary to access your data isn't yours any more - It isn't in your computer. You have to pay to use it, to get to your data,

Re: LC MISTAKES

2013-02-02 Thread Richard Gaskin
Nigel Soden wrote: > ...I'm a fairly new-bee to LC and to date I must say that I look > forward to coming home after working in C# .Net (F...$%^&* usless. > s) and working on some projects for my son. How much more fun would things be if your day job also had you working in LiveCode? This

Re: ho lee kow

2013-02-02 Thread Colin Holgate
Where does Kicstarter show the list of names? On Feb 2, 2013, at 5:55 AM, Björnke von Gierke wrote: > Ah, but we don't know that, all we know is that he shows up as a pledger ;-) ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit

Re: ho lee kow

2013-02-02 Thread Peter W A Wood
On 2 Feb 2013, at 22:53, Colin Holgate wrote: > Where does Kicstarter show the list of names? Here - http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1755283828/open-source-edition-of-livecode/backers ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com P

Re: Apple (et alia) !!

2013-02-02 Thread Richmond
On 02/02/2013 03:04 PM, Francis Nugent Dixon wrote: Hi from Beautiful Brittany, Phase 1 - Your data isn't in your computer. It's somewhere ! And to get to it, you need to pay, on a rental basis ! Phase 2 - The application necessary to access your data isn't yours any more - It isn't in your com

Re: Modularised engine, Metacard, and other daft thoughts.

2013-02-02 Thread Richard Gaskin
Richmond wrote: > If the open source engine is to be modularised would it be possible > to lift it out of the Open Source version of Livecode (this naming > is getting clunky: there needs to be another name for this) > and drop it into a Metacard shell? Any IDE that runs on the LiveCode engine -

Re: ho lee kow

2013-02-02 Thread Colin Holgate
Thanks. I wonder how many Kickstarter pledgers realize that people can see all their projects listed online! With the close tracking we're doing we can deduce how much Steve pledged, which I imagine is not so public information. BTW, we've gone past £50k. On Feb 2, 2013, at 9:56 AM, Peter W A

Arrow Key Selection in Option Menus

2013-02-02 Thread Gregory Lypny
Hello everyone, I have a question about buttons formatted as option menus. I created a standalone for my students that allows them to submit answers to multiple choice homework assignments via FTP to my Mac at work. Once in a while I will receive a blank submission from a student usin

LC MISTAKES

2013-02-02 Thread Nigel Soden
Richard I entend too do so, but I live with a very tight budget so I hope that this continues for awhile to allow me a little 'slice of the cake' so to speak. I must be the ONLY user in South Africa as I have not heard of anyone else using LC. A little while ago the company I work was look

RE: ho lee kow

2013-02-02 Thread Lynn Fredricks
> Thanks. I wonder how many Kickstarter pledgers realize that > people can see all their projects listed online! With the > close tracking we're doing we can deduce how much Steve > pledged, which I imagine is not so public information. > > BTW, we've gone past £50k. You can turn off sharing a

Re: LC MISTAKES

2013-02-02 Thread Richard Gaskin
Nigel Soden wrote: > ...here are some of the comments I got from my esteemed colleagues. > > 1. How can such a simple language possibly create commercial >applications > 2. The language is too simple > 3. What the hell is LiveCode, what best practices does it follow. > 4. It's not main strea

Re: LC MISTAKES

2013-02-02 Thread Richmond
So I suspect such a rapid app dev tool as LiveCode will get their attention. Imagine the O-S version of Livecode in the Ubuntu repositories (let alone Debian and further afield); even, think of it as being installed in a default install alongside Python. My toes have curled up with exciti

Re: to find the first numeric line?

2013-02-02 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 2/2/13 3:08 AM, Alex Tweedly wrote: There's no need to decrease kBrute to deal with short lines, because we still do a full search (in this case using filter) when we get down to a block of size kBrute. Aha. The filter is the part I missed. I get it now. Clever. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay

ANother possible naming convention?

2013-02-02 Thread Peter Haworth
We've got the prefix of either "c" or "u" for custom properties, but might there be a case for "v" to indicate virtual custom properties (those with a setprop handler)? Pete lcSQL Software ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@

Kickstarter fishing noise

2013-02-02 Thread Mark Rauterkus
Hi All, So, what about the ones at SuperCard? Perhaps that is a place to troll. And, perhaps a deal maker could get a list for a trade of sorts. The various Linux user groups are another place to go fishing with this news. They may be keen to chip in sight unseen. Then there are vertical markets

Re: Modularised engine, Metacard, and other daft thoughts.

2013-02-02 Thread Richmond
Further questions: 1. Will the stacks created with the O-S version be openable by the PAY version, and the other way round? 2. What's to stop somebody spending a few years developing something with the O-S version and then paying for the shortest possible licence (time-wise) to spin off

Re: LC MISTAKES

2013-02-02 Thread David C.
> Imagine the O-S version of Livecode in the Ubuntu repositories (let alone > Debian and further afield); > even, think of it as being installed in a default install alongside Python. > > My toes have curled up with excitiment! > Exactly! ___ use-liveco

hilitedLines bug

2013-02-02 Thread Terry Dennis
Bug: hilitedLines is incorrect after delete of a line. on mouseUp if exists(field "Info") then delete field "Info" end if create field "Info" set the listBehavior of field "Info" to true repeat with tCounter = 1 to 20 put "test data" && tCounter & cr after field "Info"

Re: Modularised engine, Metacard, and other daft thoughts.

2013-02-02 Thread Björnke von Gierke
1. yes 2. that's supposed to happen 3. you're smarte then those questions! On 02.02.2013, at 20:06, Richmond wrote: > Further questions: > > 1. Will the stacks created with the O-S version be openable by the PAY > version, and the other way round? > > 2. What's to stop somebody spending a f

Windows 7 and mucking around with Unicode fonts.

2013-02-02 Thread Richmond
So, got some reasonably negative feedback re my Devawriter Pro running on Windows 7. - The feedback seems to be a "Livecode problem" rather than a "Richmond problem" (and I'm sure if I am guilty of passing the

Re: Arrow Key Selection in Option Menus

2013-02-02 Thread Paul Hibbert
Gregory, I did a quick test with option menus in stack created on a Mac and tested on Win7 under Parallels, they behaved exactly the same when using the arrow keys to choose the selection then pressing enter/return to record the choice, the main difference I could find is that on the Mac you de

Re: Windows 7 and mucking around with Unicode fonts.

2013-02-02 Thread Richmond
Further to my previous posting: Devawriter Pro + Sanskrit fonts behaved themselves perfectly under WINE 1.5.22 both when it was pretending to be Windows XP and when it was pretending to be Windows 7 which means, by the way, that the WINE people have NOT imitated all aspects of Windows 7 accurate

Re: Trying to make economic sense of open sourcing livecode

2013-02-02 Thread Dr. Hawkins
So many thoughtful responses . . . I'll try to put all my thoughts in one spot (and will inevitably fail . . .) On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 4:48 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: > If you want to share the code with the community, and do so in a way that > requires other derivative works to be similarly shared

Re: Arrow Key Selection in Option Menus

2013-02-02 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 2/2/13 10:00 AM, Gregory Lypny wrote: I took a look at this on my Mac, and although I seldom use the arrow keys, I can select answers in option menus using the arrow keys, and I can send them fine. My handler simply loops through the option buttons and gathers the answers by taking the value

Re: Trying to make economic sense of open sourcing livecode

2013-02-02 Thread Mark Wieder
> So many thoughtful responses . . . I'll try to put all my thoughts in > one spot (and will inevitably fail . . .) Thanks. I'm hesitant to get into this discussion, having only a layman's view, so it's good to get some professional insight. -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net

Re: ANother possible naming convention?

2013-02-02 Thread Mark Wieder
Pete- Saturday, February 2, 2013, 10:57:26 AM, you wrote: > We've got the prefix of either "c" or "u" for custom properties, but might > there be a case for "v" to indicate virtual custom properties (those with a > setprop handler)? I like it. Glx2 does flag these with hyperlinks, but it's good

Re: hilitedLines bug

2013-02-02 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 2/2/13 1:16 PM, Terry Dennis wrote: Bug: hilitedLines is incorrect after delete of a line. on mouseUp if exists(field "Info") then delete field "Info" end if create field "Info" set the listBehavior of field "Info" to true repeat with tCounter = 1 to 20 put "

Re: Arrow Key Selection in Option Menus

2013-02-02 Thread Peter M. Brigham
On Feb 2, 2013, at 2:39 PM, Paul Hibbert wrote: > One of the biggest challenges I find in developing is thinking of all the > ways things could go wrong, or what users may do differently than expected > that will affect the data, and then covering all those options. Absolutely. Someone on this

Re: Trying to make economic sense of open sourcing livecode

2013-02-02 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 2/2/13 2:07 PM, Dr. Hawkins wrote: Then again, it might be possible to ship a non-GPL stack that was password protected that would be run by the GPL or non-GPL engine, although it might be impossible to handle the decryption in a way that doesn't make available a key that gives effective acce

Re: ho lee kow

2013-02-02 Thread Dr. Hawkins
On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 8:14 PM, Joe Lewis Wilkins wrote: > I guess that would have qualified me as a "professional developer", although > about that time >frame in my programming "education" I had to ask a dealer tech what the letter >"k" stood for. >(hmn!) Years ago, the summer after high scho

Re: gcc lc and gpl

2013-02-02 Thread Dr. Hawkins
On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 7:12 PM, Bert Shuler wrote: > If I write a program in c, and compile it with gcc, that does not require my > new program to be >gpl, even though gcc is, correct? Partly. gcc is actually one of many qgpl (quasi-gpl) licensed programs out there. Some did it by accident, o

Re: Trying to make economic sense of open sourcing livecode

2013-02-02 Thread Peter M. Brigham
On Feb 2, 2013, at 3:43 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: > On 2/2/13 2:07 PM, Dr. Hawkins wrote: > >> Then again, it might be possible to ship a non-GPL stack that was >> password protected that would be run by the GPL or non-GPL engine, >> although it might be impossible to handle the decryption in a w

Re: Trying to make economic sense of open sourcing livecode

2013-02-02 Thread Monte Goulding
On 03/02/2013, at 8:04 AM, "Peter M. Brigham" wrote: > I assume the "password protected" refers to the kind of password protection > that hides scripts and encrypts the file on the hard drive. Does this also > exclude the kind of roll-your-own password protection involved in scripting > an "a

Re: A Personal Letter from Our CEO

2013-02-02 Thread Dr. Hawkins
On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 10:12 AM, Richmond wrote: > but the only thing that has really ever worried me about Kevin Miller is > that he has always been shaved to the lips. I've never trusted the judgment of a man that will run a sharp piece of metal over his throat every morning before he fully wak

Re: hilitedLines bug

2013-02-02 Thread Peter Haworth
I get the same result. Also happens if you delete a line after the originally selected lines. I'd say that was a bug. Pete lcSQL Software On Sat, Feb 2, 2013 at 11:16 AM, Terry Dennis wrote: > Bug: hilitedLines is incorrect after delete of a line. > > on mouseUp >if

Opening stacks in a standalone

2013-02-02 Thread Marty Knapp
I'm having trouble with opening stacks in a standalone. I have setup a creator code and file extension. When I make and save a stack from within the app I first set the stackFileType to my creator code and "RSTK." If I 2x click the file in the Finder, it launches the program but does not open t

Left and Right Shift Keys or Modifier Keys

2013-02-02 Thread Thomas McGrath III
Does anyone know if there is a way within LiveCode to determine if the Left or Right Shift Key is pressed? or if there is a distinction between the left and right modifier keys - Control Left, Control Right, Alt Left, Alt Right, Command Left, Command RIght. I know this was discussed a long tim

Re: Opening stacks in a standalone

2013-02-02 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 2/2/13 3:37 PM, Marty Knapp wrote: I'm having trouble with opening stacks in a standalone. I have setup a creator code and file extension. When I make and save a stack from within the app I first set the stackFileType to my creator code and "RSTK." If I 2x click the file in the Finder, it laun

Re: Arrow Key Selection in Option Menus

2013-02-02 Thread Paul Hibbert
After some more tests in the LC IDE on Mac and Win7, plus building stand-alones I found a few discrepancies with the selectedLine on Win7, it all seems to work as expected on Mac. Reading the selectedLine does not appear to be reliable with option menus in Win7 stand alone apps if there is no m

Re: Opening stacks in a standalone

2013-02-02 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 2/2/13 3:37 PM, Marty Knapp wrote: I'm having trouble with opening stacks in a standalone. I have setup a creator code and file extension. When I make and save a stack from within the app I first set the stackFileType to my creator code and "RSTK." One more thing. Finder may not decide your

Re: Left and Right Shift Keys or Modifier Keys

2013-02-02 Thread Mark Wieder
Tom- Saturday, February 2, 2013, 1:55:41 PM, you wrote: > Does anyone know if there is a way within LiveCode to determine > if the Left or Right Shift Key is pressed? or if there is a > distinction between the left and right modifier keys - Control Left, > Control Right, Alt Left, Alt Right, Comm

Re: Left and Right Shift Keys or Modifier Keys

2013-02-02 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 2/2/13 4:18 PM, Mark Wieder wrote: Tom- Saturday, February 2, 2013, 1:55:41 PM, you wrote: Does anyone know if there is a way within LiveCode to determine if the Left or Right Shift Key is pressed? or if there is a distinction between the left and right modifier keys - Control Left, Control

Re: Left and Right Shift Keys or Modifier Keys

2013-02-02 Thread Mark Wieder
Jacque- Saturday, February 2, 2013, 2:27:12 PM, you wrote: > I don't think Mac OS distinguishes. H. OK. I can't test right at the moment, but I coulda sworn it made a difference. -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___ use-livecode mailing

Re: Left and Right Shift Keys or Modifier Keys

2013-02-02 Thread Colin Holgate
It also doesn't send the event if just the shift key is held down: Cross-platform note: On Mac OS systems, no message is sent when a modifier key (Shift, Option, Control, or Command) is pressed, unless another key is pressed along with the modifier key. Mouse wheels do not send a rawKeyDownmessa

Re: ho lee kow

2013-02-02 Thread Colin Holgate
I see Scott Raney has put a message on Facebook, linking to Woz's Kickstarter profile. On Feb 2, 2013, at 12:54 AM, Monte Goulding wrote: > He backed it!... I just thanked him on twitter... maybe others should? ___ use-livecode mailing list use-live

Re: Left and Right Shift Keys or Modifier Keys

2013-02-02 Thread Thomas McGrath III
I was aware of the need for another key to be pressed with certain modifier keys in order for LC to register the event and then I can check if the modifier is held down but that won't tell me if it is the left or right key. I am starting to get the feeling that not being able to tell if it is le

Re: Left and Right Shift Keys or Modifier Keys

2013-02-02 Thread Colin Holgate
Try this: on idle put the keysdown end idle That will show you that you are pressing the shift key, but it is the same value for both of them ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscri

Re: Left and Right Shift Keys or Modifier Keys

2013-02-02 Thread Thomas McGrath III
fKeys, UControl, have been able to distinguish between left and right shift keys. They are non functioning in OSX so I am still researching if it is at all possible. I did find KeyRemap4MacBook and am trying to figure out how it works or if it knows the difference. -- Tom McGrath III http://l

Re: Left and Right Shift Keys or Modifier Keys

2013-02-02 Thread Scott Rossi
A mousewheel click may not be detectable, but scrolling most certainly is. Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, UX Design On 2/2/13 2:35 PM, "Colin Holgate" wrote: >Mouse wheels do not send a rawKeyDownmessage on Mac OS systems. __

Re: Left and Right Shift Keys or Modifier Keys

2013-02-02 Thread Colin Holgate
So it seems. 65308 and 65309. On Feb 2, 2013, at 6:17 PM, Scott Rossi wrote: > A mousewheel click may not be detectable, but scrolling most certainly is. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe,

Re: Opening stacks in a standalone

2013-02-02 Thread Marty Knapp
Thank you Jacque - I made my own file type and added the appleEvent code. All is now right with the world! Best regards, Marty Knapp Knappster Solutions LLC --- On 2/2/13 3:37 PM, Marty Knapp wrote: I'm having trouble with opening stacks in a standalone. I have setup

Re: Left and Right Shift Keys or Modifier Keys

2013-02-02 Thread Thomas McGrath III
I also found this list for Mac Keyboards: ESC: 53 F1: 122 F2: 120 F3: 99 F4: 118 F5: 96 F6: 97 F7: 198 F8: 100 F9: 101 F10: 109F11: 103F12: 111 `: 50 1: 18 2: 19 3: 20 4: 21 5: 23 6: 22 7: 26 8: 28 9: 25 0: 29 -: 27 =: 24 delete: 51 TAB: 48 q

Re: Left and Right Shift Keys or Modifier Keys

2013-02-02 Thread Mark Wieder
Thomas- Saturday, February 2, 2013, 3:41:28 PM, you wrote: > I also found this list for Mac Keyboards: > ESC: 53 F1: 122 F2: 120 F3: 99 F4: 118 F5: 96 F6: 97 F7: 198 > F8: 100 F9: 101 F10: 109F11: 103F12: 111 > `: 50 1: 18 2: 19 3: 20 4: 21 5: 23 6: 22 7

Re: Left and Right Shift Keys or Modifier Keys

2013-02-02 Thread Björnke von Gierke
mousewheel click is mouse(3) On 03.02.2013, at 00:30, Colin Holgate wrote: > So it seems. 65308 and 65309. > > > On Feb 2, 2013, at 6:17 PM, Scott Rossi wrote: > >> A mousewheel click may not be detectable, but scrolling most certainly is. > > ___

Re: Left and Right Shift Keys or Modifier Keys

2013-02-02 Thread Richard Gaskin
Mark Wieder wrote: But the 1K question is how to detect them in LC I don't that that's going to be possible. Those look like keyboard scan codes, and that's at the hardware level, below the OS. I think you're gonna have to get down and dirty writing your own keyboard scan driver if you want

Re: Arrow Key Selection in Option Menus

2013-02-02 Thread Gregory Lypny
Hello Paul, Jacqueline, and Peter, Thank you for responding to my question on arrow-key selection of option menu items. It was generous of you to go out of your way to test things on a Windows box. Recently, I built in a check that warns students of the number of blanks, if any, they

[ANN] Possible NorCal Users Group/LiveCode Intro Meetup

2013-02-02 Thread Scott Rossi
Are any of you LiveCode developers located in Northern California? Would you be interested in attending a LiveCode meetup in the hub of Silicon Valley? Over the last several months, I've had discussions with a Google colleague of mine about the possibility of having Google host a LiveCode meetup.

Re: Left and Right Shift Keys or Modifier Keys

2013-02-02 Thread Mark Wieder
Richard- Saturday, February 2, 2013, 4:22:50 PM, you wrote: > Wouldn't each of those be available to us (perhaps under a different > identifier) from rawKeyDown and/or the modifier key messages? No, the rawKeyDown codes are different from the hardware scan codes. -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsof

Re: Left and Right Shift Keys or Modifier Keys

2013-02-02 Thread Richard Gaskin
Mark Wieder wrote: Saturday, February 2, 2013, 4:22:50 PM, Richard wrote: Wouldn't each of those be available to us (perhaps under a different identifier) from rawKeyDown and/or the modifier key messages? No, the rawKeyDown codes are different from the hardware scan codes. Yes, that's what

just for fun: pop quiz

2013-02-02 Thread Richard Gaskin
Without looking in the Dictionary, what would you expect the value of tResult to be after successful execution of: open file tValidFilePath for read read from file tValidFilePath until EOF put the result into tResult close file tValidFilePath -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World LiveCode training

Re: [ANN] Possible NorCal Users Group/LiveCode Intro Meetup

2013-02-02 Thread Peter Haworth
Scott, Count me in - I'm in Santa Cruz. Unfortunately, I'm leaving on Feb 8th for a month's vacation in New Zealand so won't be able to attend the initial meeting, but I would definitly be interested in attending any future meetings. Pete lcSQL Software On Sat, Feb 2, 2013

Re: just for fun: pop quiz

2013-02-02 Thread Monte Goulding
empty? On 03/02/2013, at 11:36 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote: > Without looking in the Dictionary, what would you expect the value of tResult > to be after successful execution of: > > open file tValidFilePath for read > read from file tValidFilePath until EOF > put the result into tResult > close

Re: just for fun: pop quiz

2013-02-02 Thread Monte Goulding
:-( On 03/02/2013, at 11:38 AM, Monte Goulding wrote: > empty? > > On 03/02/2013, at 11:36 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote: > >> Without looking in the Dictionary, what would you expect the value of >> tResult to be after successful execution of: >> >> open file tValidFilePath for read >> read fro

Re: just for fun: pop quiz

2013-02-02 Thread Jerry Jensen
Me too. empty? .Jerry On Feb 2, 2013, at 4:38 PM, Monte Goulding wrote: > empty? > > On 03/02/2013, at 11:36 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote: > >> Without looking in the Dictionary, what would you expect the value of >> tResult to be after successful execution of: >> >> open file tValidFilePath fo

Re: just for fun: pop quiz

2013-02-02 Thread Jerry Jensen
Me too. ;-( On Feb 2, 2013, at 4:39 PM, Monte Goulding wrote: > :-( > > On 03/02/2013, at 11:38 AM, Monte Goulding > wrote: > >> empty? >> >> On 03/02/2013, at 11:36 AM, Richard Gaskin >> wrote: >> >>> Without looking in the Dictionary, what would you expect the value of >>> tResult to

Re: [ANN] Possible NorCal Users Group/LiveCode Intro Meetup

2013-02-02 Thread Mark Wieder
Scott- Yo. I'll be there. -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/l

Re: [ANN] Possible NorCal Users Group/LiveCode Intro Meetup

2013-02-02 Thread Mark Wieder
Pete- Saturday, February 2, 2013, 4:37:48 PM, you wrote: > Scott, > Count me in - I'm in Santa Cruz. Unfortunately, I'm leaving on Feb 8th for > a month's vacation in New Zealand so won't be able to attend the initial > meeting, but I would definitly be interested in attending any future > meeti

Substitute "LiveCode" for "Scratch"

2013-02-02 Thread Michael Kann
http://www.ted.com/talks/mitch_resnick_let_s_teach_kids_to_code.html ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/lis

Re: [ANN] Possible NorCal Users Group/LiveCode Intro Meetup

2013-02-02 Thread Peter Haworth
It might be less than a day but it's a world apart :-) Pete lcSQL Software On Sat, Feb 2, 2013 at 5:17 PM, Mark Wieder wrote: > Pete- > > Saturday, February 2, 2013, 4:37:48 PM, you wrote: > > > Scott, > > Count me in - I'm in Santa Cruz. Unfortunately, I'm leaving on Fe

Re: just for fun: pop quiz

2013-02-02 Thread Mark Schonewille
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Re: Apple

2013-02-02 Thread kee nethery
Java apps work just fine. For example Minecraft works. Java in the browser has been blocked. Web sites that load java code onto your machine have been halted from running. Kee ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit

about Kickstarter on Japanese SourceForge site

2013-02-02 Thread Colin Holgate
http://www.surf-hier.com/browse.php?u=Oi8vc291cmNlZm9yZ2UuanAvbWFnYXppbmUvMTMvMDIvMDEvMDc0MzIwOQ%3D%3D&b=13 ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription prefer

Re: ho lee kow

2013-02-02 Thread Robert Sneidar
I had to read that a couple of times to realize you did NOT mean that Bill Atkinson was his wife. :-) Bob On Feb 1, 2013, at 7:55 PM, Colin Holgate wrote: > Also, in replying to me he cc'd his wife, Bill Atkinson... ___ use-livecode mailing list us

Re: LC MISTAKES

2013-02-02 Thread Robert Sneidar
It may help to not think of them as "backgrounds" anymore. They are shared groups. Any card can use any of the shared groups. This is really a vastly superior way of managing things, especially since the whole card = record moniker doesn't really work well in Livecode. Cards are really like form

Re: LC MISTAKES

2013-02-02 Thread Robert Sneidar
Object/group/card. Bob On Feb 1, 2013, at 6:29 PM, Colin Holgate wrote: > In terms of hierarchy, where does that group fall? Like, if a card script > does a pass, does it go to the groups on the card? > > > On Feb 1, 2013, at 9:19 PM, "J. Landman Gay" wrote: > >> To reproduce HC backgroun

Re: LC MISTAKES

2013-02-02 Thread Robert Sneidar
That I did NOT know. So object, card, group object belongs to?? That doesn't make a helluvalotta sense to me. Bob On Feb 1, 2013, at 6:58 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: > On 2/1/13 8:29 PM, Colin Holgate wrote: >> In terms of hierarchy, where does that group fall? Like, if a card >> script does a

Re: LC MISTAKES

2013-02-02 Thread Robert Sneidar
Okay I tested this. I put a simple handler in each object, the button, the group the button belonged to and the card. In each handler I passed the message. All the handler does is pop an answer dialog saying which object got the message. I set the group's background behavior to true. First the b

Re: LC MISTAKES

2013-02-02 Thread Robert Sneidar
Ok now I see. If the button is NOT a part of the group, the card gets the message first, THEN any background group. I have to say though that is an odd duck. Also, my example is causing LC to lock up after two or three times, and then attempting to select something. I'm not even going to try and

Re: LC MISTAKES

2013-02-02 Thread Robert Sneidar
Is this some kind of video game you are working on? Can I beta test it? ;-) Bob On Feb 1, 2013, at 9:24 PM, Nigel Soden wrote: > Hi Joe > So we've gone to the moon and back and are dreaming up scenarios that require > us to alter the inevitable courses of meteors to save a planet whose > inha

Re: LC MISTAKES

2013-02-02 Thread Robert Sneidar
This is actually a fairly good point. What most companies want to avoid is having to marry their developer. If only one or two people at a company knows how to develop in Livecode, and the company decides they are not working in the best interests of the company and want to get rid of them, this

Re: A Personal Letter from Our CEO

2013-02-02 Thread Robert Sneidar
And I have never been able to trust another man who wants to run a sharp piece of metal over MY throat... and get paid for it! Bob On Feb 2, 2013, at 1:11 PM, Dr. Hawkins wrote: > On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 10:12 AM, Richmond wrote: >> but the only thing that has really ever worried me about Kev

Re: just for fun: pop quiz

2013-02-02 Thread Robert Sneidar
empty On Feb 2, 2013, at 4:36 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: > Without looking in the Dictionary, what would you expect the value of tResult > to be after successful execution of: > > open file tValidFilePath for read > read from file tValidFilePath until EOF > put the result into tResult > close fi

Re: just for fun: pop quiz

2013-02-02 Thread Robert Sneidar
Wait... the number of characters read? On Feb 2, 2013, at 4:36 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: > Without looking in the Dictionary, what would you expect the value of tResult > to be after successful execution of: > > open file tValidFilePath for read > read from file tValidFilePath until EOF > put t

Re: A Personal Letter from Our CEO

2013-02-02 Thread Dr. Hawkins
On Sat, Feb 2, 2013 at 9:19 PM, Robert Sneidar wrote: > And I have never been able to trust another man who wants to run a >sharp piece of metal over MY throat... and get paid for it! Well, there's poor judgment, and then there's just plain stupid :) -- Richard E. Hawkins, Esq. (702) 508-8462

Re: Arrow Key Selection in Option Menus

2013-02-02 Thread Robert Sneidar
I would have said that a tool is used to make a product, while a product is produced using a tool. I don't get the proper use and prevention of use thingummy. Bob On Feb 2, 2013, at 12:39 PM, Peter M. Brigham wrote: >> One of the biggest challenges I find in developing is thinking of all the

Re: LC MISTAKES

2013-02-02 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 2/2/13 11:11 PM, Robert Sneidar wrote: Ok now I see. If the button is NOT a part of the group, the card gets the message first, THEN any background group. I have to say though that is an odd duck. It provides HC compatibility, with some differences. Since HC didn't have "groups" per se, we

Re: [ANN] Possible NorCal Users Group/LiveCode Intro Meetup

2013-02-02 Thread Alp Tiritoglu
I am in. -alp On Feb 2, 2013, at 4:26 PM, Scott Rossi wrote: > Are any of you LiveCode developers located in Northern California? > > Would you be interested in attending a LiveCode meetup in the hub of Silicon > Valley? > > Over the last several months, I've had discussions with a Google co

Java, Apple and Pork Pies.

2013-02-02 Thread Richmond
Really? I am going to stop believing in Apple as of now. Apple Java for Mac OS X 10.6 Update 12 http://www.macupdate.com/app/mac/33087/apple-java-for-mac-os-x-10.6 somebody somewhere is telling "porkies" to ratchet up interest or their share values methinks. Richmond. _