Nigel Soden wrote:
> ...here are some of the comments I got from my esteemed colleagues.
>
> 1. How can such a simple language possibly create commercial
> applications
> 2. The language is too simple
> 3. What the hell is LiveCode, what best practices does it follow.
> 4. It's not main stream and therefore were are they going to find
> developers.
> 5. (Having explained the history of LiveCode) If Apple dropped there
> must be a reason for had it been a useful tool they would have
> developed it further.
> 6. It's not OOPS - (Man I hate that word)
>
> Yip... I should have known the more three letters you have after your
> name the more stupid one becomes. Why is it that humans think the
> more complex something is the better it is.
LOL. Thanks for posting that list. I've heard many of those myself
over the years.
#1, 2, and 3 can only be answered by trying it. As more people come on
board its reputation will eventually precede it, and that question will
diminish over time in most circles.
I say "most" because of #6. There's a long thread on the Ubuntu forums
right now about functional programming, with more than a little backlash
against the broken promises of OOP. Not that OOP isn't useful, but it
isn't always the best way to solve every problem.
#5 requires that you know something about Apple; their choices are made
for reasons unique to their unusual place in the world, sometimes known
only to themselves.
#4 will be taken care of if the FOSS effort is successful, thereby also
addressing most of the rest as well. :)
> I have discussed this with a few other independent developers but
> what really stumbles them is the Stack concept. It's just to
> alienated from main stream terminology. I must tell you it did
> stumble me at first and it does require a mind shift. And yes,
> the more I use it the more I'm required to rethink the way to
> resolve a problem.
Yes, LiveCode is definitely a very unusual way of working, but with it
comes an equally unusual productivity and return-on-investment.
Sadly, this is often the sort of claim that folks are skeptical of -
until they try it. Few who give LiveCode an earnest go walk away
without seeing a role for it in at least some of the work they do.
> You've heard of Mark Shuttleworth, he's the South African that went
> into space and brought us Ubuntu, now that is what we need here in
> SA for LC
Later this month LiveCode will be the subject of my talk at UbuCon, the
all-day Ubuntu event at the SoCal Linux Expo. At least a couple people
from Canonical will be there, and the timing couldn't be better:
Over the last two years Canonical has understood that the path to
mainstream adoption is largely dependent on bringing more apps to the
platform, and has launched a good many initiatives to bring more apps on
board. This was a key focus of the Ubuntu Developer Summit I attended
in May, and those efforts within Canonical have only grown since.
So I suspect such a rapid app dev tool as LiveCode will get their attention.
In the meantime, you're it. :) Keep spreading the good word, and at
least a few open-minded people will be fortunate enough to hear what
you're saying.
--
Richard Gaskin
Fourth World
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