Re: iPad stack downloading

Thank you Klaus: "You are not allowed to write to the "ENGINE" folder -> (specialfolderpath("engine")! Instead download to (any subfolder) of -> specialfolderpath("documents") -- Klaus Major And thank you Chris: "My guess is you'd be fine with a stack file full of images, so long as it doesn't

Re: Kickstarter progress meter stack on revOnline

I think that's a great idea! cheers Heather On 31 Jan 2013, at 23:38, Monte Goulding wrote: > Send it through. > > Folks... I'm wondering if this thing could be (quickly) turned into a free > generic kickstarter project tracker that advertised the LC project in some > way (defaulted to it?)

Re: Kickstarter progress meter stack on revOnline

Would it be possible to mention such a free app on the KS page? "Free Sample!" Phil Davis On 2/1/13 12:30 AM, Heather Laine wrote: I think that's a great idea! cheers Heather On 31 Jan 2013, at 23:38, Monte Goulding wrote: Send it through. Folks... I'm wondering if this thing could be (

AW: to find the first numeric line?

Hi all, LC 5.5.3. I made some tests with time stamps, where the first line beginning with a number was at about line 18,000: The classic cycle thru like Craig's and Bert's took +/- 8 msec Iterating by halves to +/- 28 msec Peters approach with matchchunk and lineIndex I didn't got to run (some ex

Re: Kickstarter progress meter stack on revOnline

I agree this is a great idea. To be most attractive for KS users it would be best if were available on all five platforms (Windows, Mac, Linux, iOS, Android) with some variations for things like screen size. I have to say I don't understand the copyright issues. Monte, you're so quick off the

Re: Kickstarter progress meter stack on revOnline

I don't mind but we're already at a point where the copyright is very messy. I'm not sure what to do about that a this stage??? What about the audio file is that copyright? Then there's the data... Are we allowed to use it? -- M E R Goulding Software development services mergExt - There's an e

Re: Kickstarter progress meter stack on revOnline

I think everyone would agree to you taking the app and doing with it what you want. However, the sound I supplied is probably not free to use, so I suggest to get a free soundbit instead, from one of the many sound repositories. I suggest to add a comparision between the current amount and the p

Re: Kickstarter progress meter stack on revOnline

Well, let's hope we can ago a little further. I just made an audio file by putting coins into a tin! You can have it in mp3 or aiff (much bigger!). I could work on the 'decile triumph' sound suggested by Heather. The two sounds are at https://dl.dropbox.com/u/30091487/coins.aiff https://dl.dr

Re: Kickstarter progress meter stack on revOnline

> I think everyone would agree to you taking the app and doing with it what you > want. However, the sound I supplied is probably not free to use, so I suggest > to get a free soundbit instead, from one of the many sound repositories. I'll see what I can find. > > I suggest to add a comparisio

Re: Kickstarter progress meter stack on revOnline

> Can't really do graphs unless your pinging kickstarter constantly like > kicktraq does. Would need to do that on a server. But the last increase > feature is nice. Wut? you can do daily stats of both amount of people and amount of money, by comparing what came in during the day, Also, it's po

Re: Kickstarter progress meter stack on revOnline

Hmm... not going to happen: from Kickstarter terms of service: Additionally, you shall not: (i) take any action that imposes or may impose (as determined by the Company in its sole discretion) an unreasonable or disproportionately large load on the Company’s or its third-party providers’ infras

Re: Kickstarter progress meter stack on revOnline

Good catch Monte. I guess Kevin/Heather could try to proposition KS directly (on the grounds that it's a general service component open to all users, providing a stimulus etc), but we clearly can't just fling the app at them. So let's call the thing stalled. Graham [I should have made it clear

Re: Kickstarter progress meter stack on revOnline

I think you're wrong. They have that JSON link there so it can be used. Using a JSON link provided for usage is not the same as crawling a site, and even if the app gets super incredibly successful, and thus starts millions of queries per second, they could just ask to remove the app and/or disa

Re: Kickstarter progress meter stack on revOnline

Well... given I found the url only by looking at the source of the page and not from a public api I suspect we could upset people. The last thing we want is for KS to suspend the campaign. Let's just keep playing with the thing between us I think. On 01/02/2013, at 10:30 PM, Björnke von Gierke

Re: Kickstarter progress meter stack on revOnline

OK, made some tweaks: http://revonline2.runrev.com/stack/689/kickstarter 3 new sounds for pledges > 250, 500, and 1000 GBP A new currency converter api and lots more currencies & you can quickly switch currencies. Shows last pledge amount and time Cheers Monte On 01/02/2013, at 10:35 PM, M

Re: Kickstarter progress meter stack on revOnline

Oh i didn't realise that, I thought it's a public api! I agree with you then :) On 01.02.2013, at 12:35, Monte Goulding wrote: > Well... given I found the url only by looking at the source of the page and > not from a public api I suspect we could upset people. The last thing we want > is for K

Re: Kickstarter progress meter stack on revOnline

I downloaded it and overwrote the first one but I don't see the new features - and there's only one audioclip in the stack. What did I do wrong? TIA Graham On 1 Feb 2013, at 13:23, Monte Goulding wrote: > OK, made some tweaks: > > http://revonline2.runrev.com/stack/689/kickstarter > > 3 new

Re: to find the first numeric line?

Hi Tiemo, Apologies for not testing the code I sent you. It turns out that lineIndex can only address the contents of a field, not a variable. That seems quite shortsighted to me, but that's the way it is. That may make it unusable for your purposes but, for the record, I ran the same test as yo

Re: A Personal Letter from Our CEO

On 01.02.2013, at 18:14, Kevin Miller wrote: > ... > I'll offer you one final incentive. Another first. When this project hits its > funding target, I'll do what all proper open source folk do, and sport a > beard for the rest of the year. Wow, things suddenly got very serious! -- Use

Re: Trying to make economic sense of open sourcing livecode

Hi, It is quite simple. Many consultants and companies will find it profitable to contribute to the LiveCode engine. RunRev can use these contributions and include them in the commercial version of LiveCode. This way, the commercially available engine will develop more quickly, which makes it

Re: Kickstarter progress meter stack on revOnline

In case you missed it, Thierry Douez made a nice little stack with graphs here: http://sunny-tdz.com/dwn You could combine the stacks into a full screen presentation with mind numbing, eye glazing statistics. Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, UX Design On 2/1/13 2:20 AM,

Re: A Personal Letter from Our CEO

On 02/01/2013 07:51 PM, Björnke von Gierke wrote: On 01.02.2013, at 18:14, Kevin Miller wrote: ... I'll offer you one final incentive. Another first. When this project hits its funding target, I'll do what all proper open source folk do, and sport a beard for the rest of the year. Wow, thin

Re: to find the first numeric line?

Mark wrote: > have you taken a look at the FILTER command? > filter list with "[1-9]*" That is a possible approach, like this: function getNumericLineStart temp put the number of lines of temp into totalLines sort numeric temp filter temp with "[1-9]*" put the number of lines of temp

Re: Trying to make economic sense of open sourcing livecode

Apologies if this has already been discussed but I have a licensing question Fast forward a few months, the code base is open source and the free version of LC is available. Someone adds a feature to to the open source (not me, I have no C++ knowledge). People using the free version obviously ha

Apple

It seems that Apple have the ability to block the use of programs installed on a user's computer and have done that for Java. I understand that there are currently security risks associated with Java, although I thought a patch had been issued to fix them, but it's pretty scary to me that Apple ca

Re: Trying to make economic sense of open sourcing livecode

Dr. Hawkins wrote: > But I just can't see where the revenue stream that keeps livecode > around will be. The other examples you noted weren't dual-licensed. I think a good example here would be MySQL. Before going dual-license, MySQL was just another foundering proprietary RDBMS, not much b

mobile push notifications how-to

Does anybody have a how-to guide for using push notifications? I've read through the dictionary and the iOS release notes about how to handle received notifications, but how does one actually send out a message? The docs mention a "Push Notification Server" and registering for the service, but

Re: Kickstarter progress meter stack on revOnline

2013/2/1 Scott Rossi In case you missed it, Thierry Douez made a nice little stack with graphs > here: > http://sunny-tdz.com/dwn > Thanks Scott. > You could combine the stacks into a full screen presentation with mind > numbing, eye glazing statistics. > If you download the stack, you'll see

Kickstarter stack and those of us at LC 4.5

Please can we have a stack in the older stack format? Richmond. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listi

Re: Kickstarter stack and those of us at LC 4.5

2013/2/1 Richmond > Please can we have a stack in the older stack format? > > Mine is :) Thierry > Richmond. > ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription p

Re: Trying to make economic sense of open sourcing livecode

Hi Peter, It is open source and therefore the author doesn't need to be compensated and yes RunRev has access to that code. If RunRev decides to use the new code, they have to provide the new engine as open source, which you might consider a form of compensation for everyone who has contribut

Re: Apple

Hi Pete, If you know what you're doing, then you're able to turn off this security feature. Run this in terminal: sudo /usr/libexec/PlistBuddy -c "Delete :JavaWebComponentVersionMinimum" /System/Library/CoreServices/CoreTypes.bundle/Contents/Resources/XProtect.meta.plist and turn off the

Re: Trying to make economic sense of open sourcing livecode

Apologies if this has already been discussed but I have a licensing question Fast forward a few months, the code base is open source and the free version of LC is available. Someone adds a feature to to the open source (not me, I have no C++ knowledge). People using the free version obviously

Re: Apple

And they've dropped support and announced to everyone (yesterday) that it's not secure. Sounds like the beginning of the end of Java to me On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 10:49 AM, Peter Haworth wrote: > It seems that Apple have the ability to block the use of programs installed > on a user's comput

Re: Apple

On 02/01/2013 09:26 PM, stephen barncard wrote: And they've dropped support and announced to everyone (yesterday) that it's not secure. Sounds like the beginning of the end of Java to me Apple may well have done that, but as they represent a smallish proportion of people using Java global

Re: Coding challenge

I'm interested that nobody went recursive. My first solution (I read Mark's email and stopped reading until I'd done a version) was command testChange local t put empty into t repeat 10 times get random(99) put format("to make %d:%s\n", it, makeChange(it)) after t end re

Re: Apple

Stephen- Friday, February 1, 2013, 11:26:29 AM, you wrote: > And they've dropped support and announced to everyone (yesterday) that it's > not secure. To remove some of the FUD about this, the insecurity is with the java browser plugin. Anything beyond that needs to be viewed in light of the lon

Re: Apple

Thanks Mark. I know enough of what I'm doing to be able to do that! Pete lcSQL Software On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 11:09 AM, Mark Schonewille < m.schonewi...@economy-x-talk.com> wrote: > Hi Pete, > > If you know what you're doing, then you're able to turn off this security >

Re: Trying to make economic sense of open sourcing livecode

Thanks Mark. As mentioned, I know nothing of C++ so this isn't going to affect me. But it doesn't seem unreasonable that someone who is willing to contribute code into a free product might feel like they should be compensated should that code be incorporated into a product that costs money. Or p

Re: Trying to make economic sense of open sourcing livecode

On 2/1/13 12:53 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: As being a dev tool, there will be a certain percentage who will want to use it for proprietary deployment. And then there's the part how Apple won't accept any GPL apps in either the App Store or the Mac App Store, so anyone developing Apple products

Re: Trying to make economic sense of open sourcing livecode

Hi Pete, Yeah, you're missing the point, kind of. Everyone who contributes can also use all contributions by everyone else and when you contribute, you make it more attractive to others to cntribute too. That's the reward of open-source software and there is no reason for any additional compens

Re: Trying to make economic sense of open sourcing livecode

On 02/01/2013 10:05 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: On 2/1/13 12:53 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: As being a dev tool, there will be a certain percentage who will want to use it for proprietary deployment. And then there's the part how Apple won't accept any GPL apps in either the App Store or the Mac

SOAP for Dummies?

Hey All: I'm looking to grab some weather data from a web service that apparently uses SOAP requests and responses, for which I know absolutely nothing, (other than it's XML?), and am looking for some more info. I picked up Mark Wieder's SOAP lib stack, but I'm wondering if there's a resource/exa

Re: Trying to make economic sense of open sourcing livecode

On 02/01/2013 10:11 PM, Mark Schonewille wrote: Hi Pete, Yeah, you're missing the point, kind of. Everyone who contributes can also use all contributions by everyone else and when you contribute, you make it more attractive to others to cntribute too. That's the reward of open-source software

Re: Trying to make economic sense of open sourcing livecode

Hi Pete et al, Good free/open source software projects care about the code hygiene (what bits come from where and are the intellectual property rights respected) and have a contributor agreement which every contributor needs to sign before any of his submitted changes are included in the source

option menu button

Hi list, is it possible to change the selectedtext of an option menu button from an other btn without sending a menuPick message to the option menu button I want at the end of a script that the menu chosen in an option menu button is set to the first one without the menuPick message of this opt

Re: mobile push notifications how-to

Hi Chris, Will send to this list the LC (push messages editor), PHP (server relayer to the APNS and GCM servers) and SQL (devices to send the messages too) scripts i use to manage this kind of tasks against iOS and Android next week after coming back to desk. Too recent to be really perfect but

Re: Apple

Right, I knew it was only the browser plugin. I just find it unbelievable that Apple can get into my computer at home and block something from running on it without asking my permission first. Or maybe they did and I missed it :-) Pete lcSQL Software On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 a

Re: option menu button

Hi Yves, Lock messages before you change the selected text and unlock messages after. This will prevent the 'menuPick' message from being sent. HTH, Jan Schenkel.   = Quartam Reports & PDF Library for LiveCode www.quartam.com = "As we grow older, we grow both wiser and more foolish at

Re: option menu button

Hi Jan, Ok, it runs ! so simple ... Le 1 févr. 2013 à 21:28, Jan Schenkel a écrit : > Hi Yves, > > Lock messages before you change the selected text and unlock messages after. > This will prevent the 'menuPick' message from being sent. > > HTH, > > Jan Schenkel. > > = > Quartam Reports

Re: A Personal Letter from Our CEO

well a good beard should then be about 35 quid per hair then so perhaps there should be a funding level for a follicle level support. maybe get your name laser etched on a hair or get the clipped hair at the end of the year. Just another way to incentivize the fundraising. I know having a beard

Re: Apple

I think the only way they can do that is with 'Software Update'. Paul On 2013-02-01, at 12:33 PM, Peter Haworth wrote: > Right, I knew it was only the browser plugin. I just find it unbelievable > that Apple can get into my computer at home and block something from > running on it without askin

Re: SOAP for Dummies?

HI Scott It's just a post to the url. I used Mark's stack in a project. From memory I had to tweak a couple of things in the soap template to suit the server I was posting to but it works well. Cheers Monte On 02/02/2013, at 7:16 AM, Scott Rossi wrote: > Hey All: > > I'm looking to grab som

Re: Apple

The Java security model i learned about along my master 2 in net apps design and dev (2004) helped me to understand that the Java security model was mostly broken in any sense of this term… Should be good to see that nine years later, Java begin to appear as a less productive platform than the m

Re: to find the first numeric line?

Jim. This is very cute. Almost Jacque-like. But there is a problem in that much, if not all of his data is both alpha and numeric, like "A2" So filtering will not eliminate those lines that contain strings in that form. Craig -Original Message- From: Jim Lambert To: use-live

Re: Apple

That may be the normal way to update software. What they've done, which is clever really, is just change the version number that Java requires to work, without changing any installed applications. By changing that to a version later than the current one, it effectively disables all sites. On Fe

Re: SOAP for Dummies?

Scott Rossi writes: > > Hey All: > > I'm looking to grab some weather data from a web service that apparently > uses SOAP requests and responses, for which I know absolutely nothing, > (other than it's XML?), and am looking for some more info. > > I picked up Mark Wieder's SOAP lib stack, but

Re: Apple

On 02/01/2013 10:59 PM, Colin Holgate wrote: That may be the normal way to update software. What they've done, which is clever really, is just change the version number that Java requires to work, without changing any installed applications. By changing that to a version later than the current

Re: Apple

You could be right, but what I read in the paper was "Apple sends out virtual blacklists to internet-connected Macs, instructing them not run certain programs". That sounds like something other than a software update. Pete lcSQL Software On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 12:48 PM, Pa

Re: Apple

You could be right, but what I read in the paper was "Apple sends out virtual blacklists to internet-connected Macs, instructing them not run certain programs". That sounds like something other than a software update. That sounds legally "dicky". Pete lcSQL Software

Re: Apple

They did do that once already, but once the security issue (or whatever the big deal is) is fixed, then it will be left alone. The goal isn't to block Java, it's to stop people from hijacking your machine. Here's a reminder about the issue at hand: http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/01/13/u-s-a

Re: Trying to make economic sense of open sourcing livecode

OK, makes some kind of sense. Pete lcSQL Software On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 12:11 PM, Mark Schonewille < m.schonewi...@economy-x-talk.com> wrote: > Hi Pete, > > Yeah, you're missing the point, kind of. Everyone who contributes can also > use all contributions by everyone else

Re: Trying to make economic sense of open sourcing livecode

On 2/1/13 2:16 PM, Richmond wrote: where you wrote: "so anyone developing Apple products will need to purchase the commercial license" you should have written: "so anyone developing Apple products to be sold through either the App Store or the Mac App Store will need to purchase the commercial

Re: Apple

On 2/1/13 2:33 PM, Peter Haworth wrote: Right, I knew it was only the browser plugin. I just find it unbelievable that Apple can get into my computer at home and block something from running on it without asking my permission first. Or maybe they did and I missed it :-) Google Play store does

Re: A Personal Letter from Our CEO

On 2/1/13 2:43 PM, Jeff Reynolds wrote: I know having a beard hair from kevin in a block of acrylic on my desk would be something to cherish and pass on, but maybe thats just me... Yeah, probably. :) But maybe he should include it in the Kickstarter gift lists anyway. -- Jacqueline Landman G

Re: Apple

Peter Haworth writes: > > Right, I knew it was only the browser plugin. I just find it unbelievable > that Apple can get into my computer at home and block something from > running on it without asking my permission first. Or maybe they did and I > missed it The latter. By not returning the

Re: Apple

Looks like Java will be back on soon: http://www.macrumors.com/2013/02/01/oracle-releases-java-7-update-13-to-address-security-issues-reenable-web-plug-in-on-os-x/ ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to su

Re: Trying to make economic sense of open sourcing livecode

I believe the intention is to have a rewards for contributors to the engine. Points that go towards commercial licenses. That's just a bonus though. I think what's most likely to happen is something like this: RunRev will do most feature development A developer hits a bug when working on an app

Re: Apple

OK, but Java isn't "Apple software", is it? Even their own software updates notify me it's about to be updated and a chance to say yay or nay. Plus, owning the software doesn't seem like it gives them the right to block it from running on my computer. I get Jacque's point about it being for my o

Re: # 8 on Kicktraq!

On 31/01/2013 19:33, Monte Goulding wrote: Dropping back and the funding is coming in too slow. If you multiply yesterday's pledges by 29 and add the 32002 from the first day then we are looking at 282,446. Kicktraq still says we are trending above target but it won't in a few days if we don't

Re: # 8 on Kicktraq!

This is good analysis. Our existing community is quite a bit bigger so plenty more to be convinced there. But you're right we need to reach a broader community. Millions remember HyperCard which is our strongest card (pardon the pun). Question: how good do you think the video really is for thos

Re: Apple

Peter Haworth writes: > > OK, but Java isn't "Apple software", is it? Even their own software > updates notify me it's about to be updated and a chance to say yay or nay. > Plus, owning the software doesn't seem like it gives them the right to > block it from running on my computer. Of course

Re: Apple

Like I said, Apple appear to be able to do whatever the hell they want these days. Pete lcSQL Software On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 2:45 PM, Mark Wieder wrote: > Peter Haworth writes: > > > > > OK, but Java isn't "Apple software", is it? Even their own software > > updates no

Re: # 8 on Kicktraq!

I have a friend who ran a successful KS project, albeit for a lot less money. One of the things he did was to post updates to the project every couple of days - news of well known donors, encouraging words to donate, even repeating stuff from the main body of the project, anything to keep the pro

Re: to find the first numeric line?

Craig wrote: > But there is a problem in that much, if not all of his data is both alpha and > numeric, like "A2" > So filtering will not eliminate those lines that contain strings in that form. > Works on this: 1a 1b a1 a2b4 3t c7 5u h2 5k Give it a shot. JimL > Mark wrote: > >> have you t

Re: Trying to make economic sense of open sourcing livecode

Thanks Monte. I guess I was thinking of new features rather than bug fixes, e.g some sort of new control. But I guess the principal is the same. As you say, it will be interesting to see how all this unfolds. Pete lcSQL Software On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 1:38 PM, Monte Go

Re: to find the first numeric line?

Forgot to add 1. So make that: function getNumericLineStarts temp put the number of lines of temp into totalLines sort numeric temp filter temp with "[1-9]*" put the number of lines of temp into totalLinesNumericStart return totalLines-totalLinesNumericStart + 1 end getNumericLine

Re: Trying to make economic sense of open sourcing livecode

Hi, What I don't quite understand is the physical difference between a commercially-licensed and an open source-licensed RunRev application. Is the first just like it is presently, but the second is? Or the LiveCode application has two versions...? Peter UCLA On Feb 1, 2013, at 3:12 PM, P

Re: to find the first numeric line?

Could change it to sort numeric temp filter temp without "[1-9]*" return the number of lines of temp + 1 thereby killing 2 of the lines. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and mana

Re: to find the first numeric line?

Actually it would be better to check for no matches so.. sort numeric temp filter temp without "[1-9]*" if temp is not empty then return the number of lines of temp + 1 return "No Match" On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 4:26 PM, Mike Bonner wrote: > Could change it to > > sort numeric temp > filter temp

Re: Trying to make economic sense of open sourcing livecode

On 02/02/2013, at 10:22 AM, Peter Bogdanoff wrote: > Hi, > > What I don't quite understand is the physical difference between a > commercially-licensed and an open source-licensed RunRev application. > > Is the first just like it is presently, but the second is? > > Or the LiveCode appli

Re: to find the first numeric line?

Nvm. :) won't work in all cases. Back under the rock it is for me! On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 4:32 PM, Mike Bonner wrote: > Actually it would be better to check for no matches so.. > > sort numeric temp > filter temp without "[1-9]*" > if temp is not empty then return the number of lines of temp +

Re: Trying to make economic sense of open sourcing livecode

In the commercial version you will be able to publish for iOS App Store distribution, and you'll also be able to password protect your stacks. On Feb 1, 2013, at 6:22 PM, Peter Bogdanoff wrote: > Is the first just like it is presently, but the second is? > > Or the LiveCode application ha

LC MISTAKES

I'd like to take a completely tangential approach to this whole dilemma. When I first came aboard, I was thrilled by what I thought was to be a continuation of "H/C"; but, shortly I was to be disillusioned by a number of factors. 1. I had little problem with the initial cost to sign up for R

BackgroudBehavior of a group

Just getting around to using background groups for the first time. I created a group on a card and set its backgroundbehavior to true, which also set its sharedbehavior to true. My impression is that the group should now automatically appear any time I create a new card. It does, if the new card

Re: to find the first numeric line?

Ah. I had thought "filter" deleted the specified characters in a string, not that it loses lines containing those characters directly. I think I knew that once. Live and re-learn. Craig From: Jim Lambert To: use-livecode Sent: Fri, Feb 1, 2013 6:10 pm Subject: Re: to find the first

Re: Trying to make economic sense of open sourcing livecode

What if someone contributes to the GPL version that gives it the ability to have and create password protected stacks (not supporting the commercial implementation but a whole new variant)? Obviously, there will be contributors that will want to add features to the GPL version that has similar fea

Re: BackgroudBehavior of a group

If I understand what you're trying to do/asking, substacks can only inherit properties from the main stack, not objects. One option is to create a substack that contains all your "master" objects, from which you copy objects to where you need them. But unless you're going to have dozens of substa

Re: LC MISTAKES

The past is dead. Those who strive to life in the past, only aim for their own death. On 02.02.2013, at 00:42, Joe Lewis Wilkins wrote: > I'd like to take a completely tangential approach to this whole dilemma. > > When I first came aboard, I was thrilled by what I thought was to be a > conti

Re: Trying to make economic sense of open sourcing livecode

You're not allowed to release features that are not open source, so I doubt that you could release an add-on that prevents other features from fulfilling their open source-ness. On Feb 1, 2013, at 6:56 PM, Glen Bojsza wrote: > >What if someone contributes to the GPL version that gives it the

Re: Trying to make economic sense of open sourcing livecode

Yes, we considered that. That stack protection code would be under GPL. So it would have to be open. And therefore anyone could reverse engineer it. Kind regards, Kevin Kevin Miller ~ ke...@runrev.com ~ http://www.runrev.com/ LiveCode: Unleash Your Killer App On 01/02/2013 23:56, "Glen Bojsz

Re: LC MISTAKES

Hi Joe On 02/02/2013, at 10:42 AM, Joe Lewis Wilkins wrote: > 1. I had little problem with the initial cost to sign up for Revolution; > but, very soon I discovered that it was going to be MUCH more expensive for > the "H/C" accustomed user to adopt. I'll talk about this more, later on. The

Re: BackgroudBehavior of a group

It shouldn't have been a surprise that the group didn't appear when you made a new card in another stack. If it worked that way, then when you made a new card in another stack it ought to make every background group you've ever made appear. All you have to do to get what you want is to copy the

Re: Trying to make economic sense of open sourcing livecode

OK, open source is the cure for cancer... So I spend months, which become years implementing, say, a decent math library for Livecode Who pays the rent? ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscrib

Re: LC MISTAKES

HyperCard's way of doing background was often a problem. You might want to have a set of things in the interface appear on every card, but much of the rest of the background be different. That meant making a new background for every variation, instead of having a "super background" that had most

Re: Trying to make economic sense of open sourcing livecode

Glen Bojsza wrote: What if someone contributes to the GPL version that gives it the ability to have and create password protected stacks (not supporting the commercial implementation but a whole new variant)? Obviously, there will be contributors that will want to add features to the GPL version

Re: LC MISTAKES

> So, I don't think Apple would go for the idea of having a killer development > tool included with each Mac anymore. Again, with the Kickstarter initiative > it won't matter, everyone on Mac, Windows , or Linux, will be able to use > LiveCode for free. In this world of today, nothing is free, e

Re: Trying to make economic sense of open sourcing livecode

If you need the functions enough then its worthwhile you doing it but if not then you won't be able to justify the time. Same scenario for any other bit of code you write I guess. -- M E R Goulding Software development services mergExt - There's an external for that! On 02/02/2013, at 11:16 AM

Re: to find the first numeric line?

I just can't resist a good benchmark / coding challenge. Summary - for small data (10s of thousand of lines), they're all fairly quick; for large data sets, there are big performance differences and how far through the data set the "start-with-numeric" lines begin. I used 10 million lines of

Re: Trying to make economic sense of open sourcing livecode

> > Nothing in the GPL would prevent anyone from *writing* such a feature, but > since the GPL requires that all source code under it be available that would > prevent them from ever *using* it. ;) > So given Kevin has said the stack protection code will be under GPL will you > stop using it?

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