Re: Back to LC & Inventive Users

2011-08-12 Thread Dave Cragg
On 11 Aug 2011, at 23:01, Judy Perry wrote: > If you had a month, meaning, 4 long sessions or 8 shorter sessions, to get an > absolute Joe Public to make something small but semi-interesting in LC, i.e., > something they couldn't do in PowerPoint, what are the top 5 things you'd > want them to

Re: Back to LC & Inventive Users

2011-08-12 Thread Scott Morrow
Hello Judy, I agree that games can offer lots of opportunities and the students have a reasonable understanding of what they are trying to do and why. Mr. Rossi mentioned Simon. Board games can use "dice", special direction "cards", a timer or countdown gauge, and a way to keep score… all allow

Re: Back to LC & Inventive Users

2011-08-12 Thread Chipp Walters
Hi Judy, You undoubtably have more experience and understanding than most of us with regard to what interests your students and what they are ultimately capable of. I assume it's imperative to keep things as simple as possible as students can get overwhelmed quickly. That said, I believe an ultra

Re: Back to LC & Inventive Users

2011-08-12 Thread Chipp Walters
I should mention, when I talked about importing graphics, I meant background graphics for the master card, so as to personalize the stack and hopefully make it more fun for the student. Nothing too advanced! FWIW, I wouldn't delve too much into the whole IDE and language at this stage, but focus m

Re: [OT] Internet Censorship

2011-08-12 Thread dirk cleenwerck
But we don't distribute our software through mega-corporations that then collect and keep most of the proceeds. Even Apple only collects 30% for being a channel where we sell our software. I would bet that if the corporations gave the artist an honest part of the money they collect from sales, the

Re: [OT] You know when you've been coding too long when . . .

2011-08-12 Thread Peter M. Brigham, MD
On Aug 11, 2011, at 7:22 PM, Marty Knapp wrote: > You know you've been coding too long in LiveCode, when you go over to your > word processor to type a letter and you tap the enter key twice to save and > close . . . ! (Or am I the only one?) Nope, not the only one. -- Peter Peter M. Brigha

PDF printing iOS - am I missing something?

2011-08-12 Thread William de Smet
Hi there, Is it possible yet to generate a PDF file from within an iOS app and then save it, open it or Airprint it? Just like on my desktop app I want the user to print a drawing to PDF. on mouseUp open printing to pdf "test.pdf"   if the result is "Cancel" then exit mouseup print this card from

Re: Cursor woes

2011-08-12 Thread Peter M. Brigham, MD
I much prefer never to lock the cursor -- it tends to stay locked at odd moments. Instead try setting "the defaultcursor." The problem of your cursor changes not happening as expected probably comes down to where the script is -- it may not be in the message path for some reason, maybe you are

[NO-ANN] LiveCode.tv event canceled

2011-08-12 Thread Björnke von Gierke
Due to lack of volunteers, this weekends livecode.tv event is canceled. Please step up and contact me to present on any (other) date, for the benefit of all. cheers Björnke -- Watch live presentations every Saturday: http://livecode.tv Use an alternative Dictionary viewer: http://bjoernke.com/

Re: Back to LC & Inventive Users

2011-08-12 Thread Alejandro Tejada
Hi Judy, I like Chipp's ideas. You could implement them with a project that your students could use, after your classes are completed. For example, put your student to create their personal "Creativity Journal" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oblique_Strategies In this diary, they could "stretch"

Re: [OT] Internet Censorship

2011-08-12 Thread Pete
And the vast majority of musicians don't sell their music through mega corporations. We are not under contract to any record labels or other organisations. We sell our music through online sites such as CDBaby who in turn distribute our music to iTunes, Rhapsody, etc. I receive about $0.60 for e

Re: [OT] You know when you've been coding too long when . . .

2011-08-12 Thread Mark Wieder
Marty- Thursday, August 11, 2011, 4:22:04 PM, you wrote: > You know you've been coding too long in LiveCode, when you go over to > your word processor to type a letter and you tap the enter key twice to > save and close . . . ! (Or am I the only one?) I never do that. Instead I press the tab k

Re: [OT] Internet Censorship

2011-08-12 Thread Alejandro Tejada
Hi Richmond, Richmond Mathewson-2 wrote: > > My software comes in two versions: the FREE version and the > ever-progressing 30 day "Demo" (which is fully functional). > [snip] > So far I have made the princely sum of 8 Euros from my software . . . :) > Just for curiosity, If you compare you

BvG Docu

2011-08-12 Thread Pete
Hi Bjoernke, Really enjoying using your new version of this tool, so much more useful than the standard dictionary. Much as I'm really enjoying using it, I'm not sure I want it to automatically appear every time I launch the IDE - is there a way to disable that behavior? Pete Molly's Revenge

Re: dispatch and the target

2011-08-12 Thread Pete
Hi Mark, I decided to try a more orthodox method of doing this. The application now includes a "start using" command for my library stack and the library stack has a libraryStack message handler in it that does all the initialisation I referred to. However, the same problem still occurs, Referrin

Re: dispatch and the target

2011-08-12 Thread Phil Davis
Is there a reason you don't want to use a global variable as the communication channel between the app and the lib stack? That would work. Just declare it in both places, put data into it before "start using", and in the libraryStack handler the data will be there. Bob's your uncle, as they say.

Re: dispatch and the target

2011-08-12 Thread Bob Sneidar
You can refer to the current stack using the topStack. A library should be capable of working no matter which stack has the focus. I would rewrite the scripts in the library stack to be independent. Also, you should not have to dispatch to a library stack. Start Using puts the stack script in t

Version Tracking

2011-08-12 Thread Bob Sneidar
Hi all. I am working on an application for scheduling and after showing a working proof of concept to the powers that be, they seem pretty excited about it. I am meeting with a group of people who run the sites next week. I would like to fire up some kind of version tracking/feature request sy

Re: dispatch and the target

2011-08-12 Thread Pete
No reason other than I never thought of it! Thanks for the simple solution. Also, I'd rather not talk about my Uncle Bob Pete Molly's Revenge On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 9:47 AM, Phil Davis wrote: > Is there a reason you don't want to use a global variable as

Re: [OT] Internet Censorship

2011-08-12 Thread william humphrey
Same message in Puerto Rico. On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 11:25 PM, Alejandro Tejada wrote: > Hi All, > > How many of you could view this youTube video? > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R0IcvVF-p_k > > This video is a segment of Howard Goodall's > 2006 documentary: How Music Works > > You could find ma

Another Docu question

2011-08-12 Thread Pete
I just downloaded the latest version of bvg Docu. Now every time I start LC, I get a message that there is no sqlite file available and one is created. The stack is installed in my plugins folder and in the same folder I see a folder named "BvG Docu" which contains a file named "BvG Docu 4.6.2.sq

Re: dispatch and the target

2011-08-12 Thread Pete
Thanks Bob. I had forgotten about the topstack and it indeed seems to provide the mechanism I'm looking for. The utility I'm working on includes a plugin, as you mentioned, and a runtime library as a separate entity usable without the plugin. By the way - are you the Uncle Bob that Phil mentione

What to Do Since FTP No Longer Supported in Mac OSX Lion?

2011-08-12 Thread Gregory Lypny
Hello everyone, I was building a nice app with LiveCode the other day. It used PUT URL and FTP to download files from my remote Mac. Worked like a charm until yesterday when I updated the OS on the remote Mac to Lion. Now I get socket timeout messages. I then read on the web that FTP is not

Re: dispatch and the target

2011-08-12 Thread Bob Sneidar
I was hoping to avoid this conversation, but alas, I am indeed, your uncle. ;-) Bob On Aug 12, 2011, at 10:33 AM, Pete wrote: > Thanks Bob. I had forgotten about the topstack and it indeed seems to > provide the mechanism I'm looking for. The utility I'm working on includes > a plugin, as you

Re: Cursor woes

2011-08-12 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 8/11/11 7:19 PM, Chip Thomas wrote: One project is a launcher system where the standalone just launches a separate main stack file. The cursor script is on the card of this stack file. In this project, I don't get any cursor changes except when in the development environment. The second pr

Re: dispatch and the target

2011-08-12 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 8/12/11 12:04 PM, Bob Sneidar wrote: You can refer to the current stack using the topStack. Yes, but with caveats. If the stack isn't a toplevel (regular document) stack, then it (usually) won't be the topstack. It might be the defaultstack though. A library should be capable of working

Re: What to Do Since FTP No Longer Supported in Mac OSX Lion?

2011-08-12 Thread Warren Samples
On Friday, August 12, 2011 01:44:32 PM Gregory Lypny wrote: > Hello everyone, > > I was building a nice app with LiveCode the other day. It used PUT URL and > FTP to download files from my remote Mac. Worked like a charm until > yesterday when I updated the OS on the remote Mac to Lion. Now

Re: [OT] Internet Censorship

2011-08-12 Thread Richmond Mathewson
On 08/12/2011 06:56 PM, Alejandro Tejada wrote: Hi Richmond, Richmond Mathewson-2 wrote: My software comes in two versions: the FREE version and the ever-progressing 30 day "Demo" (which is fully functional). [snip] So far I have made the princely sum of 8 Euros from my software . . . :) Ju

Re: dispatch and the target

2011-08-12 Thread Pete
Thanks for the additional info. "start using" works in my situation as the scripts are all in the stack it refers to although I probably did that because it was a requirement for "start using". In any case, it all seems to work as expected. I will have to experiment more with situations where th

Re: dispatch and the target

2011-08-12 Thread Pete
Update on this. If the calling stack is a palette, the topstack refers to one of the IDE's stacks (applicationoverview.rev I think), and the defaultstack refers to the library stack not the palette stack. In addition, the executionContexts contains no reference to the palette stack. I'm pretty m

How do I wait for a VBScript to finish?

2011-08-12 Thread Bill Vlahos
I call a VBScript and need to know when it finishes so that I can restore a window. I can put a long delay but that isn't very elegant and the time delay should be a few seconds but it may take longer on older systems. I'm doing the same thing with an AppleScript on the Mac but it doesn't seem t

Repeat with slow on iOS?

2011-08-12 Thread William de Smet
Hi there, Is 'repeat with' slow on iOS? I notice a 1 or 2 second delay time on my iPad after clicking the button. On the desktop however everything is really fast. I just do this in a button: repeat with x=1 to 100 put "a"&x into tVeld enable fld tVeld put empty into fld tV

Re: How do I wait for a VBScript to finish?

2011-08-12 Thread Bob Sneidar
If you wrote the VBScript, then have liveCode check for a specific temp file and create it if it doesn't exist. Call your VBScript, then enter a wait loop checking every so often to see if the file still exists. If it does, wait some more. When the VBScript is done, have it delete the file. Y

Re: Repeat with slow on iOS?

2011-08-12 Thread Colin Holgate
It seems more likely that it's the changing of the appearance that is taking a long time. Try your routine with a lock screen and unlock screen either side of the repeat loop. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit t

RE: Repeat with slow on iOS?

2011-08-12 Thread John Dixon
> Is 'repeat with' slow on iOS? > I notice a 1 or 2 second delay time on my iPad after clicking the button. > On the desktop however everything is really fast. > I just do this in a button: > repeat with x=1 to 100 > put "a"&x into tVeld > enable fld tVeld >put empty int

Difference between destroyStack and destroyWindow

2011-08-12 Thread Bill Vlahos
They sounds pretty similar to me. What is the difference and why would I ever not want to have them either both on or both off for substacks? Dictionary destroyWindow: If a stack's destroyWindow property is set to true, closing the stack removes the data structure maintaining that window. Dicti

Re: Repeat with slow on iOS?

2011-08-12 Thread Roger Eller
On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 3:38 PM, William de Smet wrote: > Hi there, > > Is 'repeat with' slow on iOS? > I notice a 1 or 2 second delay time on my iPad after clicking the button. > On the desktop however everything is really fast. > I just do this in a button: > repeat with x=1 to 100 > pu

Re: Repeat with slow on iOS?

2011-08-12 Thread Roger Eller
On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 4:46 PM, Roger Eller wrote: > On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 3:38 PM, William de Smet wrote: > >> Hi there, >> >> Is 'repeat with' slow on iOS? >> I notice a 1 or 2 second delay time on my iPad after clicking the button. >> On the desktop however everything is really fast. >> I ju

Re: How do I wait for a VBScript to finish?

2011-08-12 Thread Ken Ray
On Aug 12, 2011, at 2:26 PM, Bill Vlahos wrote: > I call a VBScript and need to know when it finishes so that I can restore a > window. I can put a long delay but that isn't very elegant and the time delay > should be a few seconds but it may take longer on older systems. > > I'm doing the sam

Re: Repeat with slow on iOS?

2011-08-12 Thread William de Smet
Thanks for the answers. It seems that 'lock screen/unlock screen' does the trick! greetings, William 2011/8/12 Roger Eller : > On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 4:46 PM, Roger Eller wrote: > >> On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 3:38 PM, William de Smet wrote: >> >>> Hi there, >>> >>> Is 'repeat with' slow on iOS?

RE: [OT] Internet Censorship

2011-08-12 Thread Lynn Fredricks
> OK. This touched a nerve. > > *"I used to record off the air and it was OK" , "everybody > does it" , > "the music today sucks anyway", "the music business is corrupt"* > > All excuses used to justify the stealing of music. Not very > funny to me, a 40 year music business worker. This

Re: dispatch and the target

2011-08-12 Thread Mark Wieder
Pete- Friday, August 12, 2011, 12:12:39 PM, you wrote: > Update on this. If the calling stack is a palette, the topstack refers to > one of the IDE's stacks (applicationoverview.rev I think), and the > defaultstack refers to the library stack not the palette stack. In > addition, the executionC

Re: dispatch and the target

2011-08-12 Thread Mark Wieder
Bob- Friday, August 12, 2011, 10:52:35 AM, you wrote: > I was hoping to avoid this conversation, but Yeah, I was hoping you'd avoid it, too... -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Pleas

Re: Difference between destroyStack and destroyWindow

2011-08-12 Thread Mark Wieder
Bill- Friday, August 12, 2011, 1:25:49 PM, you wrote: > They sounds pretty similar to me. What is the difference and why > would I ever not want to have them either both on or both off for > substacks? Boy, just when you think maybe you've learned some of this stuff, something like this comes al

Re: [OT] Internet Censorship

2011-08-12 Thread Richard Gaskin
Ralph DiMola wrote: I don't feel sorry for the record companies or the rich rock and rollers. 1) I bought the Beatle's singles on 45 RPM records 2) Then I bought the "White Album" on 33 RPM 3) Then I got the "White Album" on 8 track 4) Then I got the "White Album" on casset

Re: dispatch and the target

2011-08-12 Thread Pete
Nobody avoids Uncle Bob Pete Molly's Revenge On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 5:37 PM, Mark Wieder wrote: > Bob- > > Friday, August 12, 2011, 10:52:35 AM, you wrote: > > > I was hoping to avoid this conversation, but > > Yeah, I was hoping you'd avoid it, too... > >

RE: [OT] Internet Censorship

2011-08-12 Thread Lynn Fredricks
> > 1) I bought the Beatle's singles on 45 RPM records > > 2) Then I bought the "White Album" on 33 RPM > > 3) Then I got the "White Album" on 8 track > > 4) Then I got the "White Album" on cassette > > 5) Then I got the "White Album" on CD > > 6) Some of the songs

Re: Cursor woes

2011-08-12 Thread Chip Thomas
Oh my gosh! Thank you so much! It's always the obvious solutions, isn't it? :) On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 10:59 AM, J. Landman Gay wrote: > On 8/11/11 7:19 PM, Chip Thomas wrote: > > One project is a launcher system where the standalone just launches a >> separate main stack file. The cursor scr

Re: Difference between destroyStack and destroyWindow

2011-08-12 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 8/12/11 7:49 PM, Mark Wieder wrote: Bill- Friday, August 12, 2011, 1:25:49 PM, you wrote: They sounds pretty similar to me. What is the difference and why would I ever not want to have them either both on or both off for substacks? Boy, just when you think maybe you've learned some of thi

Re: Cursor woes

2011-08-12 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 8/12/11 8:57 PM, Chip Thomas wrote: Oh my gosh! Thank you so much! It's always the obvious solutions, isn't it? :) I'm glad it's fixed, but it doesn't explain why you were able to get the watch cursor sometimes. The watch is in the cursors stack too. Odd. Maybe it's buried in the OS some

Re: [OT] Internet Censorship

2011-08-12 Thread Alejandro Tejada
Hi Richard, Richard Gaskin wrote: > > Ironically, I recall the SPA noting a few years ago that the second > most-pirated software category after games was software for music > production. > And... where could we hear the results? If... MOST of the current music that receives airplay is any

Re: [OT] You know when you've been coding too long when . . .

2011-08-12 Thread Alejandro Tejada
When you find yourself in the middle of a completely boring and repetitive editing task inside any other software ... and you wish, with all your heart, to be able to use LiveCode scripts to complete the task... In fact, you already know (exactly) how should read that script... :-D Al -- View

Re: Exporting vector images

2011-08-12 Thread Alejandro Tejada
Hi Richmond, Richmond Mathewson-2 wrote: > > This super stack exports Vector graphics as vector graphics > (wow, that sounds a bit circular), and as such is wonderful. > > WHAT IT DOESN'T DO is: > Export TEXT from a textField as Vectors . . . expecting too much, I am . > . . :) > Exporting

Re: [OT] Internet Censorship

2011-08-12 Thread stephen barncard
Ha! "airplay" is the problem! Homogenization is what they do. If one is only listening to terrestrial radio, then that mediocrity is what one gets. There is PLENTY of great, original new music streaming out there on the net --, one just needs to explore. On 12 August 2011 20:46, Alejandro Tejada

Re: [OT] Internet Censorship

2011-08-12 Thread Jerry J
Stephen is right. The tools for the technical aspects of music production are now available to everybody. The skills to use them creatively are not so easy to come by. Unfortunately, if you follow the money in the music business, you mostly get mediocrity. For now. Stay tuned, --Jerry On Au

Re: Version Tracking

2011-08-12 Thread Mark Wieder
Bob- Friday, August 12, 2011, 10:14:21 AM, you wrote: > Hi all. > I am working on an application for scheduling and after showing a > working proof of concept to the powers that be, they seem pretty > excited about it. I am meeting with a group of people who run the > sites next week. I would l

Re: [OT] Internet Censorship

2011-08-12 Thread Alejandro Tejada
Hi stephen, Stephen Barncard-4 wrote: > > Ha! "airplay" is the problem! Homogenization is what they do. > > If one is only listening to terrestrial radio, then that mediocrity is > what > one gets. There is PLENTY of great, original new music streaming out there > on the net --, one just needs

Re: What to Do Since FTP No Longer Supported in Mac OSX Lion?

2011-08-12 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 8/12/11 1:17 PM, Warren Samples wrote: You can still use FTP: "While FTP is still available and configurable from the command line, it's no longer supported as an easy to turn on option in System Preferences" -- from Having just spend

Re: What to Do Since FTP No Longer Supported in Mac OSX Lion?

2011-08-12 Thread Josh Mellicker
We've switched to using cURL for uploading and downloading. Let me know if you'd like some code samples. On Aug 12, 2011, at 10:13 PM, "J. Landman Gay" wrote: > On 8/12/11 1:17 PM, Warren Samples wrote: > >> You can still use FTP: >> >> "While FTP is still available and configurable from the