Re: Webifying livecode is a real mystery to me

2012-05-25 Thread Bob Sneidar
We may find ourselves coming full circle, where companies say to us as developers, "The web app we had designed for us is ok, but it lacks some features we simply cannot get from a web app. I need you to design a desktop app with mobile equivalents to do what our web app does, and then add these

Re: Webifying livecode is a real mystery to me

2012-05-25 Thread Bob Sneidar
It has always seemed to me that the process of enhancing browsers has resulted in eventually breaking them. Remember when Safari was the most stable browser available for the Mac? Then they started enhancing it. It may be in a good state now, but I can remember being forced to use Firefox becaus

Re: Webifying livecode is a real mystery to me

2012-05-25 Thread Bob Sneidar
Great article. I think a good way to describe Revserver is a web server that allows the use of LC code embedded in HTML. You can't ever get away from HTML of course. It's what browsers know and understand. I'm with Jim in that learning new languages always puts me off, but I understand that it's

Re: Webifying livecode is a real mystery to me

2012-05-25 Thread Richard Gaskin
Igor de Oliveira Couto wrote: > I have been trying out LiveCode for about 3 weeks now, and I think > we may be able to offer an alternative to the client, with LiveCode. > The client can still keep their database on the shared host, but > instead of accessing it with web browsers, we can develop

Re: Webifying livecode is a real mystery to me

2012-05-25 Thread Bernard Devlin
Bravo, Igor. This is exactly how I see it. But thanks to Andre and the others for making really good points. (I'd never heard of AngularJS, so I'm going to look into it). I'd bet 99.99% of developers have never heard of Livecode. Without a massive advertising campaign, I don't see them gallopi

Re: Webifying livecode is a real mystery to me

2012-05-25 Thread Igor de Oliveira Couto
I am coming to LiveCode from a web development background. I must say, that my point of view may differ from what has been presented so far. First, I find web programming quite enjoyable. I use a very, very powerful and little-known text editor called 'Sublime Text' (http://www.sublimetext.com/)

Re: Webifying livecode is a real mystery to me

2012-05-24 Thread Pierre Sahores
What an informative great post, pedagogical and synthetic, to describe things, Andre ! Just want to add some details : RevServer makes us able to program multi-users cloud enabled web and saas solutions in following the best standards we will ever get to code in avoiding sad proprietary languag

Re: Webifying livecode is a real mystery to me

2012-05-24 Thread stephen barncard
It's not that bad, Jim. Really. Very few of us are gurus - just empowered users, like you. The tools and the information are out there. Rev gave the revlet a good shot, imho, and they had to drop it to concentrate on what is more relevant for now. Andre's response says it all. One good thing is th

Re: Webifying livecode is a real mystery to me

2012-05-24 Thread Andre Garzia
Jim, I don't want to sound pessimistic but what I am going to tell is good advise on my opinion. Keep in mind it is my opinion only. Revlets were never a good option for mass deployment because it is hard to get the users to install a plugin. If you were working on some vertical market such as ed

Webifying livecode is a real mystery to me

2012-05-24 Thread Jim Schaubeck
So the revlet concept is not getting any more attention and revserver is great if you know 5 other programming languages to get it right. I invested in livecode because of its web presence (actually it was the sales pitch of web apps that won me over). But I have officially given up on livecode