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On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 3:56 AM -0800, "RM"
mailto:richmondmathew...@gmail.com>> wrote:
I was playing around with LiveCode 8.0 DP 14 on Windows 7 VMware (as one
does when
life gets a bit tedious on
I was playing around with LiveCode 8.0 DP 14 on Windows 7 VMware (as one
does when
life gets a bit tedious on the Linux side: I suppose it's because there
is none of the excitement
of ransomware, viruses, Trojan horses and so on) and could not help but
notice [pomposity at its
best] that the rev
On Feb 6, 2016, at 7:14 AM, Roland Huettmann wrote:
> My rule of thumb: Make a good estimation of how much time you need for your
> project. Think about it deeply. Use all kinds of techniques to come to a
> viable conclusion. Be 100% sure that you will do it during that period of
> time. And then
Well said, Roland! My sentiments as well. The dev team is putting a lot of
reliance on the users to do a lot of testing, and we will probably keep finding
bugs, which the team will jump on. They deserve a lot of respect. A local Santa
Barbara philosopher said: "I am not perfect, but parts of me
The contribution of Dr. Hawkins to this subject the other has made me think
a lot.
I am not sure if I have that kind of competency to even write a reply. But
finally I decided to contribute some of my reflection.
Though I know from many many years of experience with hundreds of
developers that fo
At first, I've got to say I was thoroughly underwhelmed... but then
discovered I hadn't updated at all.
I normally always use the link provided to grab the download but for some
reason this time I just used the 'Check for Updates' in the Help menu. I
should have realised something was up when the
On Fri, Feb 5, 2016 at 12:43 AM, RM wrote:
>
> I'm not a gambler either. But I do know one thing:
>
> Despite my periodic "snotty patches": LiveCode has always delivered when
> it comes
> to stable releases. If one wants to run at the front of the pack (i.e.
> developing with
> Developer previews
On Thu, Feb 4, 2016 at 6:20 PM, Richard Gaskin
wrote:
> Suit yourself.
>
> I regard testing new software my business relies on as part of the ongoing
> cost of developing and maintaining my products.
>
> You know better than most that given the combinatorial explosion of
> possible syntax and fea
There's no reason as far as I can see that a Linux native user can't VNC to
a remote Mac for the portion of testing that requires a Mac. The same is
true of a Windows native user.
~Roger
On Fri, Feb 5, 2016 at 5:08 PM, Richard Gaskin
wrote:
> Monte Goulding wrote:
> > That may be easier said t
Monte Goulding wrote:
> That may be easier said than done considering as far as I can tell
> from following progress at the moment there's no IDE only team.
> Instead there appears to be variable degrees of input between the
> engine and the IDE from the whole team. While it's relatively easy to
>
That may be easier said than done considering as far as I can tell from
following progress at the moment there's no IDE only team. Instead there
appears to be variable degrees of input between the engine and the IDE from the
whole team. While it's relatively easy to do what you are suggesting fo
Peter Haworth wrote:
> I saw that this release includes "better desktop theming" for desktop
> apps, but should all my stacks be displayed with a grey background on
> OSX? I know I can override this but is that really the way native
> apps look on OSX? I'm having a hard time finding one that doe
Really?
On 5.02.2016 01:29, Ali Lloyd wrote:
The error you
posted was nothing to do with the dictionary. It was an error in the
menubar, a stack which you have been making changes to.
How have I been making changes to the menubar?
Sorry; must be missing something here :-[
Richmond.
Roger Eller wrote:
> Perhaps "apparent" was not the right word, and was mis-used in my
> moment of frustration.
Happens to all of us. You should see the many emails I don't send -
sometimes we just need to vent. :)
> However, I would still love to see the stats on platform-specific
> (human
Well said that man!
The other day I "stumbled" over a C++ book and thought * censored * [so
many
filthy words that my message would offend everybody].
I know why I'm with LiveCode.
Richmond.
On 5.02.2016 18:26, Ralph DiMola wrote:
Ferreting out bugs in new LC versions a real time waster un
, February 04, 2016 9:20 PM
To: use-livecode@lists.runrev.com
Subject: Re: Release 8.0 DP 14
Dr. Hawkins wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 4, 2016 at 4:14 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote:
>
>> "Developer Preview" is not "Stable", but the purpose of a DP is to >>
allow e
Richmond wrote:
> I am absolutely sure that when LiveCode 8 comes to fruition it
> will make all that has gone before look very inferior. A while
> back I characterised LC 8 as where LiveCode really escapes its
> HyperCard ancestry and becomes very much its own beast: the ape
> comes down from th
On 5.02.2016 01:29, Ali Lloyd wrote:
We are currently in a DP cycle, and I know it will come back to bite me if
I say I think it is very stable, so forgive me for being cautious.
Richmond, I may have missed it - did you answer my question? The error you
posted was nothing to do with the dictio
Perhaps "apparent" was not the right word, and was mis-used in my moment of
frustration. However, I would still love to see the stats on
platform-specific (human interaction) testing times at RR before a new
version is announced. Sub-platforms would be interesting to see as well,
such as Windows
On 05/02/2016 02:35, Roger Eller wrote:
I installed it and launched it just before leaving work for the day. There
wasn't time to file a report, but hey, apparently RunRev didn't care enough
to even try it in Windows 7 64-bit. Therefore, I don't feel too bad about
my share of effort in testin
On 5.02.2016 01:29, Ali Lloyd wrote:
We are currently in a DP cycle, and I know it will come back to bite me if
I say I think it is very stable, so forgive me for being cautious.
Richmond, I may have missed it - did you answer my question? The error you
posted was nothing to do with the dictio
On 5.02.2016 04:20, Richard Gaskin wrote:
Dr. Hawkins wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 4, 2016 at 4:14 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote:
>
>> "Developer Preview" is not "Stable", but the purpose of a DP is to
>> allow everyone the opportunity to make sure "Stable" is stable.
>>
>> So start testing with v8 today.
On 5.02.2016 03:33, Dr. Hawkins wrote:
On Thu, Feb 4, 2016 at 4:14 PM, Richard Gaskin
wrote:
"Developer Preview" is not "Stable", but the purpose of a DP is to allow
everyone the opportunity to make sure "Stable" is stable.
So start testing with v8 today.
LC is both broad and deep. Testin
On 5.02.2016 01:29, Ali Lloyd wrote:
We are currently in a DP cycle, and I know it will come back to bite me if
I say I think it is very stable, so forgive me for being cautious.
Richmond, I may have missed it - did you answer my question? The error you
posted was nothing to do with the dictio
Great stuff Ali!
Sent from my iPhone
> On 5 Feb 2016, at 6:51 PM, Ali Lloyd wrote:
>
> Funny you should say that, as I started working on that very thing
> yesterday.
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Funny you should say that, as I started working on that very thing
yesterday. The drawing part is relatively easy, but I'm encountering a few
issues getting the focus part to work. Should hopefully have it finished
today though.
http://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=16756, if you want to tra
> On 5 Feb 2016, at 12:49 AM, Ali Lloyd wrote:
>
> The selected object is now indicated in the project browser by a dotted
> line.
I like this new feature Ali both on the project browser and the selected
object. Now that there’s a dashed line though I can’t help wondering if the
selection han
Roger Eller wrote:
> I installed it and launched it just before leaving work for the day.
> There wasn't time to file a report, but hey, apparently RunRev didn't
> care enough to even try it in Windows 7 64-bit.
Sometimes what may seem "apparent" may be more a matter of inference.
Have you consi
I saw that this release includes "better desktop theming" for desktop apps,
but should all my stacks be displayed with a grey background on OSX? I
know I can override this but is that really the way native apps look on
OSX? I'm having a hard time finding one that does.
On Thu, Feb 4, 2016 at 6:3
I installed it and launched it just before leaving work for the day. There
wasn't time to file a report, but hey, apparently RunRev didn't care enough
to even try it in Windows 7 64-bit. Therefore, I don't feel too bad about
my share of effort in testing thus far.
I'll have a closer look tomorro
On 02/04/2016 05:33 PM, Dr. Hawkins wrote:
I've already reduced my law practice to accommodate this; adding testing
time for the ext version (with a different file format) would mean cutting
into the bone on my income; my kids need to eat.
Other issues aside (I wouldn't switch to 8 at this poi
Roger Eller wrote:
I installed it in Win 7 64-bit. When it starts, a bunch of errors are
shown, and the message box ui text is overlapping. It is unusable.
Thanks for testing. What's your bug report number?
--
Richard Gaskin
Fourth World Systems
Software Design and Development for the De
Dr. Hawkins wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 4, 2016 at 4:14 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote:
>
>> "Developer Preview" is not "Stable", but the purpose of a DP is to
>> allow everyone the opportunity to make sure "Stable" is stable.
>>
>> So start testing with v8 today.
>>
>> LC is both broad and deep. Testing a n
I installed it in Win 7 64-bit. When it starts, a bunch of errors are
shown, and the message box ui text is overlapping. It is unusable.
On Feb 4, 2016 7:14 PM, "Richard Gaskin" wrote:
> Dr. Hawkins wrote:
> > On Thu, Feb 4, 2016 at 11:18 AM, Ali Lloyd wrote:
> >
> >> I'm afraid not - even if t
On Thu, Feb 4, 2016 at 4:14 PM, Richard Gaskin
wrote:
> "Developer Preview" is not "Stable", but the purpose of a DP is to allow
> everyone the opportunity to make sure "Stable" is stable.
>
> So start testing with v8 today.
>
> LC is both broad and deep. Testing a new engine version with your
>
Dr. Hawkins wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 4, 2016 at 11:18 AM, Ali Lloyd wrote:
>
>> I'm afraid not - even if the current crop of 7.1 RCs weren't
>> intended to be the last ones, and the 8.0 script editor weren't
>> forked, there were several changes in the engine facilitating
>> the performance boost whic
We are currently in a DP cycle, and I know it will come back to bite me if
I say I think it is very stable, so forgive me for being cautious.
Richmond, I may have missed it - did you answer my question? The error you
posted was nothing to do with the dictionary. It was an error in the
menubar, a s
On Thu, Feb 4, 2016 at 12:36 PM, Ali Lloyd wrote:
> So yes, you should be considering wholesale transfer to 8 ASAP. The vast
> majority of further work on 8.0 will be LiveCode Builder or IDE related, so
> the core engine is pretty stable and has many improvements over the 7.1
> engine.
>
Umm, "p
On 4.02.2016 22:36, Ali Lloyd wrote:
Yes, 6 and 7 will be EOLed when 8.0 GM is released - at the moment they are
being updated only for critical reasons (eg SSL update, or XCode
compatibility).
So yes, you should be considering wholesale transfer to 8 ASAP. The vast
majority of further work on
Yes, 6 and 7 will be EOLed when 8.0 GM is released - at the moment they are
being updated only for critical reasons (eg SSL update, or XCode
compatibility).
So yes, you should be considering wholesale transfer to 8 ASAP. The vast
majority of further work on 8.0 will be LiveCode Builder or IDE rela
On Thu, Feb 4, 2016 at 11:18 AM, Ali Lloyd wrote:
> I'm afraid not - even if the current crop of 7.1 RCs weren't intended to be
> the last ones, and the 8.0 script editor weren't forked, there were several
> changes in the engine facilitating the performance boost which cannot be
> easily backpor
On 4.02.2016 21:18, Ali Lloyd wrote:
On Thu, Feb 4, 2016 at 5:49 PM Dr. Hawkins wrote:
On Thu, Feb 4, 2016 at 5:49 AM, Ali Lloyd wrote:
*Script Editor Performance*
The script editor's performance with large scripts has been improved.
Is there any way that this can make it into 7? I lo
On Thu, Feb 4, 2016 at 5:49 PM Dr. Hawkins wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 4, 2016 at 5:49 AM, Ali Lloyd wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > *Script Editor Performance*
> > The script editor's performance with large scripts has been improved.
> >
>
> Is there any way that this can make it into 7? I lose amazing amounts
On Thu, Feb 4, 2016 at 5:49 AM, Ali Lloyd wrote:
>
>
> *Script Editor Performance*
> The script editor's performance with large scripts has been improved.
>
Is there any way that this can make it into 7? I lose amazing amounts of
time on a daily bases to my 10k line scripts . . .
--
Dr. Richa
Bug Number: 16848
I do hope this helps. Richmond.
On 4.02.2016 18:51, RM wrote:
So, here I am on Xubuntu 15.10 64-bit, having just installed LiveCode
8.0 DP 14:
1. All the coloured icons in the menuBar stack are now in black
(possibly this is intentional).
2. Clicking on the Dictionary
So, here I am on Xubuntu 15.10 64-bit, having just installed LiveCode
8.0 DP 14:
1. All the coloured icons in the menuBar stack are now in black
(possibly this is intentional).
2. Clicking on the Dictionary I get a large, empty, white stack and an
error message:
ERROR: Error when sendin
On Thu, Feb 4, 2016 at 8:49 AM, Ali Lloyd wrote:
>
>
> We are pleased to announce the release of LiveCode 8.0 DP 14.
>
> *Script Editor Performance*
> The script editor's performance with large scripts has been improved.
>
Considerably. Thank you!
--
Trevor DeVore
ScreenSteps
www.screensteps.c
Dear list members,
We are pleased to announce the release of LiveCode 8.0 DP 14.
Warning: this is not a stable release. Please ensure you back up your
stacks before testing them.
*IMPORTANT*: It is especially vital that you back up your stacks before
testing them in 8.0 DP 14, as there has been
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