Re: Open Language and stability

2015-10-28 Thread Mike Kerner
I find the text images generated by this thread to be slightly disturbing, but http://memestorage.com/_nw/80/45602520.jpg On Wed, Oct 28, 2015 at 7:03 AM, Kay C Lan wrote: > On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 11:47 PM, Bob Sneidar > > wrote: > > > > > So I guess what I am saying is that I really appreciat

Re: Open Language and stability

2015-10-28 Thread Kay C Lan
On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 11:47 PM, Bob Sneidar wrote: > > So I guess what I am saying is that I really appreciate the difficulty of > what the LC developers have done. I think the real key was to not try and > create an entirely new application in the process of refactoring the > existing code. Mo

Re: Open Language and stability

2015-10-27 Thread Bob Sneidar
That is to say, an irrational one. ;-) Bob S On Oct 27, 2015, at 11:40 , Mark Waddingham mailto:m...@livecode.com>> wrote: On 2015-10-27 19:36, Mark Waddingham wrote: On 2015-10-27 19:22, Richmond wrote: Morellos. I had morello cherry pie for dessert the other night... It was delicious :) Per

Re: Open Language and stability

2015-10-27 Thread Mark Waddingham
On 2015-10-27 19:36, Mark Waddingham wrote: On 2015-10-27 19:22, Richmond wrote: Morellos. I had morello cherry pie for dessert the other night... It was delicious :) Perhaps I should have written - 'morello cherry pi' - it put my taste-buds into a transcendental state. Mark. -- Mark Wa

Re: Open Language and stability

2015-10-27 Thread Mark Waddingham
On 2015-10-27 19:22, Richmond wrote: Morellos. I had morello cherry pie for dessert the other night... It was delicious :) Mark. -- Mark Waddingham ~ m...@livecode.com ~ http://www.livecode.com/ LiveCode: Everyone can create apps ___ use-livecode

Re: Open Language and stability

2015-10-27 Thread Richmond
On 27/10/15 17:25, Mark Waddingham wrote: On 2015-10-27 16:23, Heather Laine wrote: Hmmm. Do I have to add cherries to the list of things that are not permitted to be discussed on this list? /\ O O That won't work though - a new synonym will just be added and used instead ;) Mark. More

Re: Open Language and stability

2015-10-27 Thread Richmond
On 27/10/15 17:23, Heather Laine wrote: Hmmm. Do I have to add cherries to the list of things that are not permitted to be discussed on this list? /\ O O Heather Heather Laine Customer Services Manager LiveCode Ltd www.livecode.com I'd give a lot for a glass of Kirsch at this point. Ric

Re: Open Language and stability

2015-10-27 Thread Bob Sneidar
Probably one and the same thing more often than we realize. Bob S On Oct 27, 2015, at 07:11 , Peter M. Brigham mailto:pmb...@gmail.com>> wrote: That's an irrational idea. Actually, it's a transcendental idea. :-) -- Peter Peter M. Brigham ___ us

Re: Open Language and stability

2015-10-27 Thread Bob Sneidar
On Oct 27, 2015, at 04:34 , Mark Waddingham mailto:m...@livecode.com>> wrote: One of the goals of the 7.0 refactor was to move a very old, undocumented, difficult to maintain and spaghetti-like code forward to a new model which is cleaner, easier to maintain and more amenable to use in the way

Re: Open Language and stability

2015-10-27 Thread Mark Wieder
On 10/27/2015 08:25 AM, Mark Waddingham wrote: That won't work though - a new synonym will just be added and used instead ;) ROTFL -- Mark Wieder ahsoftw...@gmail.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this u

Re: Open Language and stability

2015-10-27 Thread Mark Waddingham
On 2015-10-27 16:23, Heather Laine wrote: Hmmm. Do I have to add cherries to the list of things that are not permitted to be discussed on this list? /\ O O That won't work though - a new synonym will just be added and used instead ;) Mark. -- Mark Waddingham ~ m...@livecode.com ~ http://w

Re: Open Language and stability

2015-10-27 Thread Heather Laine
Hmmm. Do I have to add cherries to the list of things that are not permitted to be discussed on this list? /\ O O Heather Heather Laine Customer Services Manager LiveCode Ltd www.livecode.com > On 27 Oct 2015, at 14:11, Peter M. Brigham wrote: > > On Oct 25, 2015, at 7:42 PM, Mark Wieder

Re: Open Language and stability

2015-10-27 Thread Peter M. Brigham
On Oct 25, 2015, at 7:42 PM, Mark Wieder wrote: > On 10/25/2015 12:24 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: > >> Make your own cherry with LCB and give the first couple of versions away >> for free. Then somewhere just after version 3 you could sell a more >> expensive chocolate-covered version and call it C

Re: Open Language and stability

2015-10-27 Thread Peter M. Brigham
"If it weren't for electricity we'd all be watching television by candlelight." -- George Gobel -- Peter Peter M. Brigham pmb...@gmail.com http://home.comcast.net/~pmbrig On Oct 25, 2015, at 5:33 PM, Rick Harrison wrote: > Forget the cherry, we need lit candles so we can see our code better!

Re: Open Language and stability

2015-10-27 Thread Mark Waddingham
On 2015-10-25 12:06, Graham Samuel wrote: The discussion about Open Language is interesting, and the idea may well be a good thing. But I for one would rather hear that for the actual development team, delivering a rock-solid version of LiveCode on all supported platforms is taking a massive prio

Re: Open Language and stability

2015-10-25 Thread Dr. Hawkins
On Sun, Oct 25, 2015 at 7:10 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: > That's an irrational idea. >> >> > Quite, but it just goes on and on.. > We're not going to repeat this again? :) -- Dr. Richard E. Hawkins, Esq. (702) 508-8462 ___ use-livecode mailing li

Re: Open Language and stability

2015-10-25 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 10/25/2015 6:42 PM, Mark Wieder wrote: On 10/25/2015 12:24 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: Make your own cherry with LCB and give the first couple of versions away for free. Then somewhere just after version 3 you could sell a more expensive chocolate-covered version and call it Cherry Pi. That

Re: Open Language and stability

2015-10-25 Thread Mark Wieder
On 10/25/2015 12:24 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: Make your own cherry with LCB and give the first couple of versions away for free. Then somewhere just after version 3 you could sell a more expensive chocolate-covered version and call it Cherry Pi. That's an irrational idea. -- Mark Wieder ah

Re: Open Language and stability

2015-10-25 Thread Rick Harrison
Forget the cherry, we need lit candles so we can see our code better! We need candles! ;-) Rick > On Oct 25, 2015, at 1:08 PM, Richmond wrote: > > On 25/10/15 18:59, Kevin Miller wrote: >> We did not promise a cherry. We are not going to promise a cherry. No cherry >> is planned. We will no

Re: Open Language and stability

2015-10-25 Thread Richmond
On 25/10/15 21:56, Colin Holgate wrote: Makes more sense in Monaco: __.--~~.,-.__ `~-._.-(`-.__`-. \`~~` .--./ \ /# \ \.--. \/ /# \ '--' \/ '--' ?I???II??IIII?II?I+.

Re: Open Language and stability

2015-10-25 Thread Colin Holgate
Makes more sense in Monaco: __.--~~.,-.__ `~-._.-(`-.__`-. \`~~` .--./ \ /# \ \.--. \/ /# \ '--' \/ '--' ?I???II??IIII?II?I+. 888.888.O888..888 ..??I??..?

Re: Open Language and stability

2015-10-25 Thread hh
> Mark Wieder wrote: > Can we crowd-source funding for a cherry? > Who's with me on this? __.--~~.,-.__ `~-._.-(`-.__`-. \`~~` .--./ \ /# \ \.--. \/ /# \ '--' \/ '--' ?I???II??IIII?I

Re: Open Language and stability

2015-10-25 Thread Monte Goulding
> On 26 Oct 2015, at 4:10 am, Mark Wieder wrote: > > Can we crowd-source funding for a cherry? > Who's with me on this? I’m happy to donate cherries from our cherry tree but you will need to crowd fund for the shipping from Tasmania to Edinburgh and to cover the costs of cherry - cake integra

Re: Open Language and stability

2015-10-25 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 10/25/2015 12:10 PM, Mark Wieder wrote: On 10/25/2015 09:59 AM, Kevin Miller wrote: We did not promise a cherry. We are not going to promise a cherry. No cherry is planned. We will not be held accountable for non-delivery of said item. Can we crowd-source funding for a cherry? Who's with me

Re: Open Language and stability

2015-10-25 Thread Richmond
On 25/10/15 19:10, Mark Wieder wrote: On 10/25/2015 09:59 AM, Kevin Miller wrote: We did not promise a cherry. We are not going to promise a cherry. No cherry is planned. We will not be held accountable for non-delivery of said item. Can we crowd-source funding for a cherry? Who's with me on

Re: Open Language and stability

2015-10-25 Thread Mark Wieder
On 10/25/2015 09:59 AM, Kevin Miller wrote: We did not promise a cherry. We are not going to promise a cherry. No cherry is planned. We will not be held accountable for non-delivery of said item. Can we crowd-source funding for a cherry? Who's with me on this? -- Mark Wieder ahsoftw...@gmai

Re: Open Language and stability

2015-10-25 Thread Richmond
On 25/10/15 18:59, Kevin Miller wrote: We did not promise a cherry. We are not going to promise a cherry. No cherry is planned. We will not be held accountable for non-delivery of said item. Now, that's odd: I'm sure the word "cherry" occurred somewhere on a web-page that has somehow, subsequ

Re: Open Language and stability

2015-10-25 Thread Kevin Miller
We did not promise a cherry. We are not going to promise a cherry. No cherry is planned. We will not be held accountable for non-delivery of said item. > On 25 Oct 2015, at 16:23, Richmond wrote: > >> On 25/10/15 17:45, Kevin Miller wrote: >> Absolutely. Open Language is at the very end of the

Re: Open Language and stability

2015-10-25 Thread JB
> On Oct 25, 2015, at 8:45 AM, Kevin Miller wrote: > > Absolutely. Open Language is at the very end of the list. The cake has to > be fully risen before we add icing. > > Kind regards, > > Kevin > > Kevin Miller ~ ke...@livecode.com ~ http://www.livecode.com/ > LiveCode: Everyone can create a

Re: Open Language and stability

2015-10-25 Thread Richmond
On 25/10/15 17:57, Martin Koob wrote: Someone will be really cheesed off if RunRev has now made a promise of cake with icing and it is not delivered or delivered without icing. Martin Seedcake doesn't have icing: only things that get stuck between your teeth . . . R. ___

Re: Open Language and stability

2015-10-25 Thread Richmond
On 25/10/15 17:45, Kevin Miller wrote: Absolutely. Open Language is at the very end of the list. The cake has to be fully risen before we add icing. Aah: super, at last; but "by Gum" it takes a lot of 'heavy-lifting' to get this sort of definite statement. Love, Richmond. P.S. What's the ch

Re: Open Language and stability

2015-10-25 Thread Richmond
On 25/10/15 16:35, hh wrote: "RichmondMatth" should read "RichmondMath". Sorry Richmond, that was a 'Freundian slip' ;-) ___ Ha, Ha: well-said that 'man'. R. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@l

Re: Open Language and stability

2015-10-25 Thread Martin Koob
Someone will be really cheesed off if RunRev has now made a promise of cake with icing and it is not delivered or delivered without icing. Martin -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Open-Language-and-stability-tp4697974p4697985.html Sent from the

Re: Open Language and stability

2015-10-25 Thread Mark Wieder
On 10/25/2015 08:45 AM, Kevin Miller wrote: Absolutely. Open Language is at the very end of the list. The cake has to be fully risen before we add icing. Cake! They told me there would be cake! -- Mark Wieder ahsoftw...@gmail.com ___ use-livecode

Re: Open Language and stability

2015-10-25 Thread Colin Holgate
Is it cheesecake? > On Oct 25, 2015, at 11:45 AM, Kevin Miller wrote: > > Absolutely. Open Language is at the very end of the list. The cake has to > be fully risen before we add icing. > > Kind regards, > > Kevin > > Kevin Miller ~ ke...@livecode.com ~ http://www.livecode.com/ > LiveCode: Ev

Re: Open Language and stability

2015-10-25 Thread Kevin Miller
Absolutely. Open Language is at the very end of the list. The cake has to be fully risen before we add icing. Kind regards, Kevin Kevin Miller ~ ke...@livecode.com ~ http://www.livecode.com/ LiveCode: Everyone can create apps On 25/10/2015 13:59, "use-livecode on behalf of Geoff Canyon" wro

Re: Open Language and stability

2015-10-25 Thread Graham Samuel
I **am** looking at the output. I love LiveCode, but there is more than one version current, there are many bugs, there are many deficiencies in the documentation... What would your advice be to a fairly non-technical person plunging into the LiveCode pool today for the first time and not wantin

Re: Open Language and stability

2015-10-25 Thread hh
"RichmondMatth" should read "RichmondMath". Sorry Richmond, that was a 'Freundian slip' ;-) ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lis

Re: Open Language and stability

2015-10-25 Thread hh
> Graham Samuel wrote: > The discussion about Open Language is interesting, and the idea may well be a > good thing. But I for one would rather hear that for the actual development > team, delivering a rock-solid version of LiveCode on all supported platforms > is taking a massive priority over

Re: Open Language and stability

2015-10-25 Thread Geoff Canyon
As someone who *really* wants open language, I completely agree with this. gc > On Oct 25, 2015, at 7:06 AM, Graham Samuel wrote: > > The discussion about Open Language is interesting, and the idea may well be a > good thing. But I for one would rather hear that for the actual development >

Open Language and stability

2015-10-25 Thread Graham Samuel
The discussion about Open Language is interesting, and the idea may well be a good thing. But I for one would rather hear that for the actual development team, delivering a rock-solid version of LiveCode on all supported platforms is taking a massive priority over even thinking about this stuff.