How about taking a screengrab just before you run the loop, place that over the
top of the content that changes, layer the progress thingy over that and then
delete the screengrab and hide the thingy when the loop is done?
From: use-livecode on behalf of jbv via
use-livecode
Date: Friday, 26
Terry asked:
"What about a lower cost ‘player’ application that can run internal stacks/apps
but not
create or modify them?”
You misunderstand me Terry, I think it is perfectly clear to count the use of a
stack as a seat given it must use the LC IDE (either desktop or Web.)
My confusion is in
Hi list,
I have a main loop that does a lot of things, like resizing images,
precessing imagedata, creating fields and groups, etc.
On top of the loop I have added "lock screen" to speed things up, and
also because I don't want users to see what is going on, only the final
layout when the loop is
Presumably(?) being in an educational setting means the whole internal apps
licensing model doesn’t apply but I agree with James that it doesn’t seem quite
equitableas it is currently designed and that there is a case for
differentiating between developers and users. By way of comparison, a numb
Perhaps it would help if there was a definition of a seat, re licensing.
There seems to be confusion in parts.
Making an app and selling it is fine, 5% of sale price per sale. Crystal clear.
But, making an app and distributing it for free (via app store of whatever) or
within a company is muddle
Hello,
I apologize for asking my questions again, but after carefully reading
the previous email, I am still a bit confused.
My situation is as follows: I work as the IT Director at a company in
New York. Among many other responsibilities, I have developed several
apps for internal use by ou
On 26/07/2024 00:46, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode wrote:
But the primary app I developed IS commercial by their definition.
Bob S
Commercial ? I guess so.
But I don't see that it fits the criteria for "Internal apps"; that
category is for apps that have been developed by a company, paying
But the primary app I developed IS commercial by their definition.
Bob S
On Jul 25, 2024, at 4:29 PM, matthias rebbe via use-livecode
wrote:
First of all, it's 3 years not 2. ;)
I am in the same boat regarding the utility apps to make life and jobs of
family members and colleagues easier.
O
First of all, it's 3 years not 2. ;)
I am in the same boat regarding the utility apps to make life and jobs of
family members and colleagues easier.
Over the years I've created plenty of them and I am sure some of them need to
be maintained in the future.
Sometimes I even cannot remember an ap
Thanks for voicing my thoughts exactly, Bob!
Roger
> On Jul 25, 2024, at 9:55 AM, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
> wrote:
>
> It’s water under the bridge, but in retrospect I think the proper way for
> Livecode to have structured their business was to have 3 products: Livecode
> Desktop, Livec
Hi Kevin or any one else in the know
As you may know, I am kind of tied perpetually to Porrima who still has a
valid LC9 subscription (afaik) and, while I don't subscribe anymore since
my company's (& health's) demise, I still offer cleanup and updates for
bits I developed on their commercial soft
I guess that we will have to put in licensing code to prevent that by tying a
specific install to one computer.
Ralph DiMola
IT Director
Evergreen Information Services
rdim...@evergreeninfo.net
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From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behal
I have a commercial app and we deal with people “sharing” the software with
others. Is there a way to account for this? Let’s say one legit customer shares
the software with 2 others and each of those people share with 2 others.
Extrapolate that over time and that number could grow quite large.
Bob - That's a great post. I hope LC is listening!
Big problems for many with this new LC licensing.
Best wishes,
Curry Kenworthy
Radically Innovative Christian LiveCode Development
"PASSION for Elegant, Efficient Code!"
https://livecodeconsulting.com/
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Hi Heather.
I do not know if Kevin forwarded this to you.
I have been on LiveCode Indy - Price Lock and I want to cross over to the new
Create Platform. Furthermore, my subscription is up for renewal in 6 Days.
1. Should I cancel my subscription via cleverbridge.com?
2. Does the “Per app user”
It’s water under the bridge, but in retrospect I think the proper way for
Livecode to have structured their business was to have 3 products: Livecode
Desktop, Livecode Mobile and Livecode Web. Each product should have maintained
their own revenue stream unbound and unburdened by the other two. A
I second Graham's comment about apple's requirements for getting an app to work
on the iphone are a huge pita.
Bill
William A. Prothero, PhD
Prof Emeritus, Dept of Earth Science
University of California, Santa Barbara
> On Jul 25, 2024, at 7:31 AM, Graham Samuel via use-livecode
> wrote:
>
>
Sean:
> Head of nail hit perfectly. Thanks, Curry. Concise as ever.
Thanks Sean!
Best wishes,
Curry Kenworthy
Radically Innovative Christian LiveCode Development
"PASSION for Elegant, Efficient Code!"
https://livecodeconsulting.com/
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Kevin:
> Data hosting is already optional in a "standard way" -
> you don't have to actually use it!
Ahem - and not PAY for it when not used! LOL.
Perhaps more than just data hosting, but similar problems
Again, I'm already seeing and hearing:
"Many end users? Don't use Livecode Create. $$
i'm coming to this conversation, late, because i'm spending very little
time coding, and most of my time managing.
if i understand the pricing correctly, LC wants to charge $440/year for
each mobile device that is running an app that we wrote (we don't have any
publicly available apps, so the 5%, a
Head of nail hit perfectly. Thanks, Curry. Concise as ever.
Sean Cole
> On 25 Jul 2024, at 16:51, Curry Kenworthy via use-livecode
> wrote:
>
> The new LC licensing is already sending a toxic message:
>
> "Many end users? Don't use Livecode Create.
>
> Privacy or Security concerns? Don't
Data hosting is already optional in a "standard way" - you don't have to
actually use it! You can still build your app, connect to your own database
(e.g. MySQL) hosted on your own server, build a standalone or a web app and
distribute it yourself.
Kind regards,
Kevin
Kevin Miller ~ ke...@l
No. They are not commercial users - your company does not employ them, nor are
they customers.
Kind regards,
Kevin
Kevin Miller ~ ke...@livecode.com ~ http://www.livecode.com/
LiveCode: Build Amazing Things
On 25/07/2024, 17:08, "use-livecode on behalf of William Prothero via
use-live
Kevin,
Just checking.. I am a hobbyist, no income is made on my apps. But if I want to
make an app that my wife or friend might use, I need to add seats for them?
Bill
William A. Prothero, PhD
Prof Emeritus, Dept of Earth Science
University of California, Santa Barbara
> On Jul 25, 2024, at 8:3
The new LC licensing is already sending a toxic message:
"Many end users? Don't use Livecode Create.
Privacy or Security concerns? Don't use Livecode Create.
Backend requirements? Don't use Livecode Create.
Hate busywork/paperwork? Don't use Livecode Create.
DIY type or On a budget? Tough cal
If they are internal apps in your company then you understand it correctly.
They are seats. So your cost for 3 (2 users plus yourself) would be $1320
annually. Alex is referring to apps for sale, not to internal users within your
company.
Kind regards,
Kevin
Kevin Miller ~ ke...@livecode.co
If that is true then I misunderstand the licensing model. My understanding is
that every app I distribute for someone else to use is a “seat” as well as me
the developer, another seat. I have 3 “seats” at present including myself, all
are internal users to the company I work for, but the company
Simon:
> If I had ever tried to supply any application that "phoned home"
> I would have been asked to leave and never darken their door again.
Exactly! It's a nightmare for many clients.
> While I'm sure Livecode will say contact us and we will sort
> something out, the fact is that having to
Thank you Kevin I will compile my thoughts, but also make it succinct.
On Thu, Jul 25, 2024 at 3:54 AM Kevin Miller via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> Happy to read such an email. You have my email address. Thanks.
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Kevin
>
> Kevin Miller ~ ke...@livec
I’m in roughly the same position as Bill. Long ago I wrote Livecode apps for
sale, but in the last several years I’ve just written a few personal apps, and
have more or less stopped work, due mostly to old age. However I don’t like to
say I’ve entirely given up as a hobbyist, and I was thinking
Hi Mark,
Yes, it helped a lot.
Many thanks.
jbv
Le 2024-07-25 05:41, Mark Waddingham via use-livecode a écrit :
On 2024-07-23 14:23, jbv via use-livecode wrote:
Hi list,
I have the following script :
create image
put number of imgs into ni
put id of img ni into tid
set filename of img id
Its still very much part of the picture. There is an AI assistant in the Script
Editor already in DP 1. There will be additional AI capabilities for defining
layouts and choosing actions as we progress. Its possible these may be after
1.0 depending on how progress continues on them.
Kind regard
Hi,
The words "AI" were used once in the new future page.
Radical omission?
Seems like a major shift when contrasted to those infant days of Create.
Wondering.
Mark Rauterkus
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On 2024-07-23 14:23, jbv via use-livecode wrote:
Hi list,
I have the following script :
create image
put number of imgs into ni
put id of img ni into tid
set filename of img id tid to myFile
put imageData of img id tid into pimage
-- many lines for imagedata analysis
crop image id tid to
As I've said several times now - we are not mandating tracking.
You can count machines instead of users if you prefer - it's one or the other
(not some mixture of both).
Kind regards,
Kevin
Kevin Miller ~ ke...@livecode.com ~ http://www.livecode.com/
LiveCode: Build Amazing Things
On
No.
Kind regards,
Kevin
Kevin Miller ~ ke...@livecode.com ~ http://www.livecode.com/
LiveCode: Build Amazing Things
On 25/07/2024, 05:08, "use-livecode on behalf of Curry Kenworthy via
use-livecode" mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com> on behalf of
use-livecode@lists.runrev.c
Yes, the price for a hobbyist using multiple platforms is lower now.
Kind regards,
Kevin
Kevin Miller ~ ke...@livecode.com ~ http://www.livecode.com/
LiveCode: Build Amazing Things
On 25/07/2024, 03:44, "use-livecode on behalf of Alex Tweedly via
use-livecode" mailto:use-livecode-boun.
We're going to tweak this policy a bit after feedback. Stay tuned for an email.
Kind regards,
Kevin
Kevin Miller ~ ke...@livecode.com ~ http://www.livecode.com/
LiveCode: Build Amazing Things
On 25/07/2024, 01:52, "use-livecode on behalf of James At The Hales via
use-livecode" mailto:u
I don't think this is going to be too difficult. Might just be easier to
license the machines this is on rather than the number of people. If that is
even necessary, as volunteers do not count. As I've said in previous replies,
phone home is not a requirement. If you drop us a line in support we
Happy to read such an email. You have my email address. Thanks.
Kind regards,
Kevin
Kevin Miller ~ ke...@livecode.com ~ http://www.livecode.com/
LiveCode: Build Amazing Things
On 24/07/2024, 20:58, "use-livecode on behalf of Tom Glod via use-livecode"
mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.
Access to Classic and older builds continues to be included in the Create
license. If you move then either we or you can cancel your existing
subscription. Existing plugins will continue to run in Classic mode. Some of
them may already run in Create, it depends on how tightly they are tied into
Hi Jeff,
When I was working my use cases would have run into similar issues as you
describe. Most of my applications were short lived and were used by either
defence contractors or the military themselves. If I had ever tried to supply
any application that "phoned home" I would have been aske
Dear list members,
We are pleased to announce the release of LiveCode 10.0.0 RC-1.
LiveCode 10.0.0 RC-1 comes with 11 bugfixes since the previous DP release,
and also includes the bugfixes of LiveCode 9.6.13 RC-1, including support
for building against API 34 on Android.
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