Re: Home servers, anyone?

I just pick it out of a shell(“ifconfig”). I have something running all the time on that machine - its taking data and sending it to me also on dropbox. A cron-ish job could do it just as easily. > On Oct 27, 2015, at 8:12 PM, Roger Eller wrote: > > I almost suggested phx_dropboxlib for that (

Re: Home servers, anyone?

I almost suggested phx_dropboxlib for that (just to keep it in LiveCode). On Oct 27, 2015 11:05 PM, "Jerry Jensen" wrote: > I’m doing a similar thing, but writing the current IP# to a particular > dropbox file that is shared with me. > > > On Oct 27, 2015, at 1:39 PM, Roger Eller > wrote: > > >

Re: Home servers, anyone?

I’m doing a similar thing, but writing the current IP# to a particular dropbox file that is shared with me. > On Oct 27, 2015, at 1:39 PM, Roger Eller wrote: > > I know someone that had a dynamic setup like you describe. It was simple > and easy for 1 person access. > > He had a local script

User Guide: Call for Errata

With v8 coming up the User Guide will be completely rewritten, but in the meantime there's interest in having the existing User Guide updated for the remainder of the v7 series. I'm evaluating whether I can make time for this myself, and the scope should make it doable since for this first pas

Re: [ANN] "language-livecode" 0.6.1 for Atom editor

From the readme: • LiveCode Builder source code in .lcb files • LiveCode server source code in .lc and .irev files • LiveCode Script source code in .livecodescript files, where the shebang line containslivecode or the first line contains an Emacs mode comment # -*- mode:li

Re: recursion limit when creating file list of harddrive

If you have already put a directory listing in a field and want to click a line to get the list of that line you can put this code in the field. on mouseUp put word 2 of the clickline into tLine put line tLine of target into whatFolder put directoryListing(whatFolder,2) --into fld id 3424

Transparency of disabled objects

The subject was broached a while back about how disabled objects can become semi transparent, an undesired effect. In case it wasn't covered, I found a quick workaround. Set one of the RGB values of the backgroundColor to 254 instead of 255. It's not visibly noticable, but will make the object o

Re: Home servers, anyone?

Bob Sneidar wrote: > OIC. I'm assuming you've spoken with the ISP about a fixed address. I have a convenient 5-IP package at the office, but the price to get that at home is way more than I'd care to pay, even for a single fixed IP, since they only offer that for commercial services. > If it

Re: What is "Open Language"?

On 27/10/15 20:39, Mark Waddingham wrote: On 2015-10-27 19:26, Richmond wrote: My tastes are extremely savage: I cannot see anything really wrong with the syntax for anything, and don't see the need for a multiplicity of synonyms. Well, that's the current state of play - which isn't really the

Re: Home servers, anyone?

I it an entry in my domain for the server and use a script that updates the record in DNS anytime it changes. I use DNSMadeEasy for DNS services. Very easy to do Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 27, 2015, at 4:27 PM, Bob Sneidar wrote: > > OIC. I'm assuming you've spoken with the ISP about a fi

Re: Home servers, anyone?

I know someone that had a dynamic setup like you describe. It was simple and easy for 1 person access. He had a local script checking the IP every 5 or 10 minutes (at home). When it no longer matched the last known IP, the script would write a small text file TO A WEB SERVER that was hosting a si

Re: recursion limit when creating file list of harddrive

I was not able to get the mouseUp handler to work but I got the function to return a list but it probably not the same list. I used this. on mouseUp answer folder "Pick a folder you want to walk:" put it into whatFolder --put directoryListing(fld "directory",round(the thumbposition of

Re: Home servers, anyone?

OIC. I'm assuming you've spoken with the ISP about a fixed address. If it's a home level DSL, they won't want to do that, because technically you aren't supposed to be running a server. The best way to go about this is to set up an authoratative DNS server for your "domain". Here's a good artic

Re: AW: What happens when enabling Hi-DPI scaling?

On 10/27/2015 2:58 PM, Mark Waddingham wrote: It causes text (on Windows) to be rendered as a path internally, and then painted to the target - this means that it doesn't suffer the 'changing metrics' problem. It is actually what 'formatForPrinting' now sits on (on Windows) - meaning you can act

Re: [OT] Netflix Using Card/Stack Metaphor in Branding

What a stupid idea! Who would adopt a metaphor like that?? ;-) Bob S On Oct 27, 2015, at 13:01 , Scott Rossi mailto:sc...@tactilemedia.com>> wrote: Fun observation for LiveCoders: Netflix recently rolled out a new global identity that relies on a metaphor of cards in a stack. https://vimeo.co

[OT] Netflix Using Card/Stack Metaphor in Branding

Fun observation for LiveCoders: Netflix recently rolled out a new global identity that relies on a metaphor of cards in a stack. https://vimeo.com/140261016 Details are available here: http://www.underconsideration.com/brandnew/archives/new_global_identity_for _netflix_by_gretel.php Regards,

Re: Home servers, anyone?

Yes, that needs to be done locally so the router can router traffic to the appropriate machine, but the issue I'm dealing with is when the ISP doles out a new IP address for the router (with DSL that's usually every router reboot, and for cable less frequently but often enough to make depending

Re: AW: What happens when enabling Hi-DPI scaling?

On 2015-10-27 20:50, Scott Rossi wrote: Hold on -- "useIdealLayout" is a real property? When l think of all the years I wasted fiddling with the design of projects... on clientRequest create stack put it into theStack set the useIdealLayout of theStack to true save theStack del

Re: Open Language and stability

That is to say, an irrational one. ;-) Bob S On Oct 27, 2015, at 11:40 , Mark Waddingham mailto:m...@livecode.com>> wrote: On 2015-10-27 19:36, Mark Waddingham wrote: On 2015-10-27 19:22, Richmond wrote: Morellos. I had morello cherry pie for dessert the other night... It was delicious :) Per

Re: Home servers, anyone?

Just create a reservation in your DHCP server so that the server always gets the same address. Bob S On Oct 27, 2015, at 12:45 , Richard Gaskin mailto:ambassa...@fourthworld.com>> wrote: Most of my servers have fixed IP addresses, but I'm about to add one to my home where the IP will be dyna

Re: AW: What happens when enabling Hi-DPI scaling?

Hold on -- "useIdealLayout" is a real property? When l think of all the years I wasted fiddling with the design of projects... on clientRequest create stack put it into theStack set the useIdealLayout of theStack to true save theStack deliver theStack send "vacation" to me in 5

Home servers, anyone?

Most of my servers have fixed IP addresses, but I'm about to add one to my home where the IP will be dynamic. The most common solution for making servers with dynamic IPs findable is DDNS, and there are of course many free providers of such a service. Put since this isn't a public server (jus

Re: recursion limit when creating file list of harddrive

Geoff, I would suggest replacing the first statement of the function with if c is empty then put -1 into c-- set the default to go all the way down put whatFolder & "/" & cr into R -- add a "/" to directory output so they are more easily parsed later -= Mike On 10/27/15 12:18 PM, Geof

Re: What is "Open Language"?

On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 2:39 PM, Mark Waddingham wrote: > > So would you be happy if all future functionality of the language were > implemented as function calls and commands (a la Visual Basic 6)? (This is > actually a serious question!) NOO! I'm patiently waiting for Open Language :-) -

Re: [OT] GUI templates

Yes. I would like to see more goodies. I'm most definitely not an artist. Icons are also a challenge. On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 3:07 PM, Richmond wrote: > https://pixelbuddha.net/freebies/tag/ui-kits > > look like fun. > > Richmond. > > ___ > use-li

Re: [ANN] "language-livecode" 0.6.1 for Atom editor

I think you can also name them .lc, right? I've also found that putting wrote: > Works a peach and thanks a ton! You smaat guy! Vewy smaat! > > Bob S > On Oct 27, 2015, at 11:32 , Peter Haworth p...@lcsql.com>> wrote: > > Configure the file extension to be used by MXLEditor to be > ".livecodesc

Re: AW: What happens when enabling Hi-DPI scaling?

On 2015-10-27 14:56, Tiemo Hollmann TB wrote: Thanks Mark for jumping in! If I understood you correct, things even get crisper and not blurred with Hi-DPI enabled on a Hi-DPI monitor and keep as they are on a standard monitor. So my conclusion would be to enable it always by standard (since it

Re: Open Language and stability

On 2015-10-27 19:36, Mark Waddingham wrote: On 2015-10-27 19:22, Richmond wrote: Morellos. I had morello cherry pie for dessert the other night... It was delicious :) Perhaps I should have written - 'morello cherry pi' - it put my taste-buds into a transcendental state. Mark. -- Mark Wa

Re: What is "Open Language"?

On 2015-10-27 19:26, Richmond wrote: My tastes are extremely savage: I cannot see anything really wrong with the syntax for anything, and don't see the need for a multiplicity of synonyms. Well, that's the current state of play - which isn't really the topic of conversation here - it is about

Re: [ANN] "language-livecode" 0.6.1 for Atom editor

Works a peach and thanks a ton! You smaat guy! Vewy smaat! Bob S On Oct 27, 2015, at 11:32 , Peter Haworth mailto:p...@lcsql.com>> wrote: Configure the file extension to be used by MXLEditor to be ".livecodescript" Pete lcSQL Software ___ use-livecod

Re: Open Language and stability

On 2015-10-27 19:22, Richmond wrote: Morellos. I had morello cherry pie for dessert the other night... It was delicious :) Mark. -- Mark Waddingham ~ m...@livecode.com ~ http://www.livecode.com/ LiveCode: Everyone can create apps ___ use-livecode

Re: What is "Open Language"?

On 2015-10-27 18:23, Richard Gaskin wrote: One thing most of us have in common here is that we need to ship applications. Very few of us (zero?) are responsible for drafting BNFs. Indeed - but then perhaps that's the difference between people using a programming language and those responsible

Re: [ANN] "language-livecode" 0.6.1 for Atom editor

Configure the file extension to be used by MXLEditor to be ".livecodescript" Pete lcSQL Software Home of lcStackBrowser and SQLiteAdmin On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 11:29 AM, Bob Sneidar wrote:

Re: [ANN] "language-livecode" 0.6.1 for Atom editor

Sweet! Just tried it and it works. Simple really. I had in mind the idea of using Applescript to get and set the contents of a new window, but text is for some really odd reason *NOT* a property of a window in Atom, as it is in TextEdit. Now the trick is to figure out how to tell Atom to treat

Re: What is "Open Language"?

On 27/10/15 19:01, Richard Gaskin wrote: Mark Waddingham wrote: On 2015-10-26 17:36, Richard Gaskin wrote: I'm fine with whatever there's budget to provide to let folks explore novel syntax, even more so with your reminder here that Open Language is among the last of the enhancements in queue,

Re: What is "Open Language"?

On 27/10/15 18:25, Bob Sneidar wrote: On Oct 27, 2015, at 02:11 , Mark Waddingham mailto:m...@livecode.com>> wrote: On 2015-10-26 19:27, Richmond wrote: No, Richmond didn't: another wise chap did: and I completely agree with him. Cerdit is not due to me on this one. I would love LiveCode NO

Re: Open Language and stability

On 27/10/15 17:25, Mark Waddingham wrote: On 2015-10-27 16:23, Heather Laine wrote: Hmmm. Do I have to add cherries to the list of things that are not permitted to be discussed on this list? /\ O O That won't work though - a new synonym will just be added and used instead ;) Mark. More

Re: Open Language and stability

On 27/10/15 17:23, Heather Laine wrote: Hmmm. Do I have to add cherries to the list of things that are not permitted to be discussed on this list? /\ O O Heather Heather Laine Customer Services Manager LiveCode Ltd www.livecode.com I'd give a lot for a glass of Kirsch at this point. Ric

Re: recursion limit when creating file list of harddrive

Thank you, Geoff JB > On Oct 27, 2015, at 9:18 AM, Geoff Canyon wrote: > > Revised. Now in function form, with error checking and depth control. You > can hand in a positive number to get that number of layers deep, or a > negative number to go all the way down. I tested it on my home director

Re: What is "Open Language"?

Mark Waddingham wrote: > On 2015-10-24 21:12, Richard Gaskin wrote: > >> My favorite example is the "export snapshot" command - even with the >> Dictionary guidance we all need to turn to for that no matter how >> many times we've used it, it's so complex with such a combinatorial >> explosion of

Re: parentheses within string break value()

On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 8:54 AM, Bob Sneidar wrote: > put "SELECT foo FROM tTableName WHERE (bar > 7) AND (animal<>'cat');" into > tSQL > replace "tTableName" with tTableName in tSQL -- assuming tTableName > contains the name of a real table > > Looks and reads a whole lot cleaner. > > If it was

Re: What is "Open Language"?

On 2015-10-27 18:01, Richard Gaskin wrote: Unfortunately, language and features are intertwined. You can't have features without a way to access them, and a language with no features is useless. Maybe my tastes are too savage, but personally I'm fine with the existing syntax for player controls

Re: Implementing Open Language

On 10/27/2015 9:48 AM, Bruce Humphrey wrote: Frankly I wish the little bugger (script editor) would provide the full phrase syntax requirements as I am constantly stuck with newbie errors in prepositions (using "in" instead of "with") or habitually using old HyperTalk structures that LiveCode cho

Re: What is "Open Language"?

Mark Waddingham wrote: On 2015-10-26 17:36, Richard Gaskin wrote: I'm fine with whatever there's budget to provide to let folks explore novel syntax, even more so with your reminder here that Open Language is among the last of the enhancements in queue, long after being able to play a video fil

Re: [ANN] "language-livecode" 0.6.1 for Atom editor

There is - STS MLXEditor Pete lcSQL Software Home of lcStackBrowser and SQLiteAdmin On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 9:57 AM, Bob Sneidar wrote: > Thanks Brett. Autocomplete seems to work with varia

Re: [ANN] "language-livecode" 0.6.1 for Atom editor

Thanks Brett. Autocomplete seems to work with variables now. I can see how this would be really useful for writing a large script from scratch. Wouldn't it be neat if there was an LC plugin that could pass a script to Atom for editing, then read it back and compile it... hmmm... Bob S > On Oc

Re: What is "Open Language"?

On 2015-10-27 17:09, Bob Sneidar wrote: I would say LC is "typeless" as far as it can be. Graphic data is not strictly typeless, data read in as binary is not typeless, etc. In fact, any attempt to reduce *ALL* data to strings would be a horrible mistake. I guess I'm saying that I appreciate not

[ANN] "language-livecode" 0.6.1 for Atom editor

Hi all, == Atom language-livecode package 0.6.1 == The "language-livecode" package for the Atom editor (https://atom.io/) integrates syntax highlighting, indentation, autocompletion, and linting support for editing LiveCode Builder (.lcb), LiveCode Script (.livecodescript), and LiveCode

Re: What is "Open Language"?

On Oct 27, 2015, at 02:11 , Mark Waddingham mailto:m...@livecode.com>> wrote: On 2015-10-26 19:27, Richmond wrote: I would love LiveCode NOT to understand the uncertainty of me. Computers should not be behave being as ambiguous as we humans are. Quite - nor should programming languages be ambig

Re: recursion limit when creating file list of harddrive

Revised. Now in function form, with error checking and depth control. You can hand in a positive number to get that number of layers deep, or a negative number to go all the way down. I tested it on my home directory and it came back fine (after some time). I haven't (knowingly) tested with unusual

Re: What is "Open Language"?

I would say LC is "typeless" as far as it can be. Graphic data is not strictly typeless, data read in as binary is not typeless, etc. In fact, any attempt to reduce *ALL* data to strings would be a horrible mistake. I guess I'm saying that I appreciate not having to worry about typing until it c

Re: parentheses within string break value()

What I typically do is: put "SELECT foo FROM tTableName WHERE (bar > 7) AND (animal<>'cat');" into tSQL replace "tTableName" with tTableName in tSQL -- assuming tTableName contains the name of a real table Looks and reads a whole lot cleaner. Bob S On Oct 26, 2015, at 13:25 , Dr. Hawkins mail

Re: Open Language and stability

Probably one and the same thing more often than we realize. Bob S On Oct 27, 2015, at 07:11 , Peter M. Brigham mailto:pmb...@gmail.com>> wrote: That's an irrational idea. Actually, it's a transcendental idea. :-) -- Peter Peter M. Brigham ___ us

Re: Open Language and stability

On Oct 27, 2015, at 04:34 , Mark Waddingham mailto:m...@livecode.com>> wrote: One of the goals of the 7.0 refactor was to move a very old, undocumented, difficult to maintain and spaghetti-like code forward to a new model which is cleaner, easier to maintain and more amenable to use in the way

Re: Open Language and stability

On 10/27/2015 08:25 AM, Mark Waddingham wrote: That won't work though - a new synonym will just be added and used instead ;) ROTFL -- Mark Wieder ahsoftw...@gmail.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this u

Re: Open Language and stability

On 2015-10-27 16:23, Heather Laine wrote: Hmmm. Do I have to add cherries to the list of things that are not permitted to be discussed on this list? /\ O O That won't work though - a new synonym will just be added and used instead ;) Mark. -- Mark Waddingham ~ m...@livecode.com ~ http://w

Re: Open Language and stability

Hmmm. Do I have to add cherries to the list of things that are not permitted to be discussed on this list? /\ O O Heather Heather Laine Customer Services Manager LiveCode Ltd www.livecode.com > On 27 Oct 2015, at 14:11, Peter M. Brigham wrote: > > On Oct 25, 2015, at 7:42 PM, Mark Wieder

Re: How script the widget Switchbutton ?

Le 27 oct. 2015 à 15:22, Paul Richards a écrit : > Hi Ludovic, > > If when you look at the property inspector for each widget, you will see what > options are available (basic TAB - which shows the house icon) > > In the case of the Switch, you can see a property for Switch on (hover mouse

Implementing Open Language

Probably a stupid or newbie question, since I am a newbie, but in all the discussion about syntax consistency I haven't seen much talk about how to actually make it happen. I would think the first implementation point is with the script editor gate keeping the acceptable syntax/words/dictionary

Re: How script the widget Switchbutton ?

On 10/27/2015 10:26 AM, Klaus major-k wrote: > Because this is a widget and not a „normal“ button! Currently in LC8.0.0dp7, when creating a widget like the switch button with a simple on/off state, can you NOT use the hilite property. Did the creator of the switch button have to use a new "SwitchI

Re: What happens when enabling Hi-DPI scaling?

Tiemo Hollmann TB wrote: > Do you enable "Hi-DPI scaling" in the standalone settings for windows since > 6.7.7 by standard or never? (I can't test the difference myself, not having > a Hi-DPI monitor) There's currently a bug relating to the Windows Hi-DPI status in the standalone settings windo

RE: How script the widget Switchbutton ?

Hi Ludovic, If when you look at the property inspector for each widget, you will see what options are available (basic TAB - which shows the house icon) In the case of the Switch, you can see a property for Switch on (hover mouse over and it will show you SwitchIsOn) An possible example of

Re: How script the widget Switchbutton ?

Bonjour Ludovic, > Am 27.10.2015 um 15:02 schrieb Ludovic THEBAULT > : > > Hello, > > I play with Livecode 8 dp7. Widget are cool but how use it ? > If i put a switchbutton on my stack and put this script : > on mouseup > answer the hilite of me > end mouseup > nothing happen. Because this is

Re: How script the widget Switchbutton ?

Look at: switchIsOn On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 8:02 AM, Ludovic THEBAULT < ludovic.theba...@laposte.net> wrote: > Hello, > > I play with Livecode 8 dp7. Widget are cool but how use it ? > If i put a switchbutton on my stack and put this script : > > on mouseup > answer the hilite of me > end mouseup

Re: Keep Selection Focus When Switching to Substack

What I have done is put an "on mouseenter" handler in the palette buttons (or at a higher level, in the palette card script) that saves the current selection and the long name of the selectedfield. That way you don't have to modify all your target stacks, just the palette scripts. -- Peter Pet

Re: Open Language and stability

On Oct 25, 2015, at 7:42 PM, Mark Wieder wrote: > On 10/25/2015 12:24 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: > >> Make your own cherry with LCB and give the first couple of versions away >> for free. Then somewhere just after version 3 you could sell a more >> expensive chocolate-covered version and call it C

Re: Open Language and stability

"If it weren't for electricity we'd all be watching television by candlelight." -- George Gobel -- Peter Peter M. Brigham pmb...@gmail.com http://home.comcast.net/~pmbrig On Oct 25, 2015, at 5:33 PM, Rick Harrison wrote: > Forget the cherry, we need lit candles so we can see our code better!

How script the widget Switchbutton ?

Hello, I play with Livecode 8 dp7. Widget are cool but how use it ? If i put a switchbutton on my stack and put this script : on mouseup answer the hilite of me end mouseup nothing happen. I cannot find any example in the doc. Thanks ___ use-live

AW: What happens when enabling Hi-DPI scaling?

Thanks Mark for jumping in! If I understood you correct, things even get crisper and not blurred with Hi-DPI enabled on a Hi-DPI monitor and keep as they are on a standard monitor. So my conclusion would be to enable it always by standard (since it is anyway standard on OS X) What could be a reason

Re: What happens when enabling Hi-DPI scaling?

On 2015-10-26 10:52, Tiemo Hollmann TB wrote: I don't have a Hi-DPI monitor and didn't found anything in the forum about it, so I am unsure what happens with my stack if I would enable this setting? What exactly happens when it says "if enabled, the stack will be scaled to fit"? A Hi-Res monito

AW: What happens when enabling Hi-DPI scaling?

Sometimes when I don't get any answers on a post, I wonder if the reason was, that the issue is so exotic, that nobody else has experienced it and can't help, or that the issue is just so basic, that it is too self-evident to answer. I try to ask a more simple question Do you enable "Hi-DPI scaling

Re: What is "Open Language"?

On 2015-10-27 10:50, Mark Waddingham wrote: accept accept accept accept 1000 with empty "callbackMessage" This should be: accept connections connections connections 1000 with empty "callbackMessage" Mark. -- Mark Waddingham ~ m...@livecode.com ~ http://www.livecode.com/ LiveCode: Eve

Re: Open Language and stability

On 2015-10-25 12:06, Graham Samuel wrote: The discussion about Open Language is interesting, and the idea may well be a good thing. But I for one would rather hear that for the actual development team, delivering a rock-solid version of LiveCode on all supported platforms is taking a massive prio

Re: What is "Open Language"?

On 2015-10-27 10:22, Monte Goulding wrote: On 27 Oct 2015, at 8:02 pm, Mark Waddingham wrote: Note that in all three 'operator' cases, you can also have expressions in-between the tokens: 'is' 'between' 'and' Out of interest if I implement the above syntax but only for expressions th

Re: What is "Open Language"?

On 2015-10-24 21:08, Richmond wrote: I don't think that "RunRev doesn't care", but I think they have promised rather more than they are capable of delivering in a semi-reasonable time-frame, and as a resilt they have got a lots of people's expectations up in a way that may be quite unrealistic, a

Re: What is "Open Language"?

On 2015-10-25 08:35, Richmond wrote: Because Open Language was his idea, presented at a conference some years ago. I didn't stop to think that not everyone knows that. Well, at least one person didn't :/ Hah - I had actually forgotten that Open Language had been presented in an NDA session

Re: What is "Open Language"?

On 2015-10-27 03:07, Mark Wieder wrote: Well. *This* certainly seems to have hit a nerve. Indeed - perhaps a little bit - but honestly not with you! Your pull request is a good one - it is minimal, focused and has tests... Tests the writing of which uncovered two bugs which need to be fixed

Re: What is "Open Language"?

On 2015-10-24 21:12, Richard Gaskin wrote: My favorite example is the "export snapshot" command - even with the Dictionary guidance we all need to turn to for that no matter how many times we've used it, it's so complex with such a combinatorial explosion of options that I defy anyone to make a

Re: What is "Open Language"?

Really interesting post & I happily stand corrected on the scope of what you are doing. > On 27 Oct 2015, at 8:02 pm, Mark Waddingham wrote: > > Note that in all three 'operator' cases, you can also have expressions > in-between the tokens: > 'is' 'between' 'and' Out of interest if I i

Re: What is "Open Language"?

On 2015-10-24 18:42, Richard Gaskin wrote: Colin Holgate wrote: I found this definition of open language, which might be on the right lines too: http://dl.acm.org/citation.cfm?id=609766 A good reminder for us all to keep our ACM memberships current. But alas mine has lapsed, and before I sp

Re: What is "Open Language"?

On 2015-10-24 20:17, Richard Gaskin wrote: This is part of the reason I raised this thread. We've seen some rather broadly varying ideas about what Open Language means, but I share your concerns and I'm not sure that's what Mark intended, even if some are excited at the prospect. I was long co

Re: What is "Open Language"?

On 2015-10-26 19:27, Richmond wrote: I would love LiveCode NOT to understand the uncertainty of me. Computers should not be behave being as ambiguous as we humans are. Quite - nor should programming languages be ambiguous. Indeed, for them to be useful at all they need to be entirely unambigu

Re: What is "Open Language"?

On 2015-10-27 09:57, Monte Goulding wrote: Indeed - my train had arrived at my destination and I didn't have time to respond to the next post. You did it again… is it a metaphorical train ;-) No, this one was definitely a physical train... Of course, that is assuming that the entire universe

Re: What is "Open Language"?

On 2015-10-25 00:19, Monte Goulding wrote: OK, well we can let Mark Waddingham comment on whether I’m right in that control structures are unlikely targets for open language or not. It seems quite unlikely to me as it’s significantly more complicated than commands. I’m not saying it’s not possibl

Re: What is "Open Language"?

> On 27 Oct 2015, at 7:53 pm, Mark Waddingham wrote: > > Since the two syntaxes being proposed don't appear to conflict in any way, > people would be free to use either as they see fit. Oh so custom control structures will be supported… cool ___ use-

Re: What is "Open Language"?

> On 27 Oct 2015, at 7:47 pm, Mark Waddingham wrote: > > On 2015-10-26 23:27, Monte Goulding wrote: >> You seem to have answered all the questions apart from the control >> structure ones. > > Indeed - my train had arrived at my destination and I didn't have time to > respond to the next post.

Re: What is "Open Language"?

On 2015-10-25 00:05, Geoff Canyon wrote: On Sat, Oct 24, 2015 at 5:42 PM, Monte Goulding wrote: ... repeat for each line tLine in tText with counter tCounter repeat for 10 with counter tCounter repeat with tIndex = 1 to 10 step 2 with counter tCounter repeat while condition with counter tCount

Re: What is "Open Language"?

On 2015-10-26 17:36, Richard Gaskin wrote: I was merely having fun with some of expectations among the readers here for what Open Language might be used for. Well, I'm glad you are having fun :P Personally, I don't mind comma-delimited arguments, and am generally happy with any syntax that le

Re: What is "Open Language"?

On 2015-10-26 23:27, Monte Goulding wrote: You seem to have answered all the questions apart from the control structure ones. Indeed - my train had arrived at my destination and I didn't have time to respond to the next post. As far as gentle goes the good news is I’ve managed to find the c

Re: What is "Open Language"?

On 2015-10-26 18:17, Bob Sneidar wrote: I proceed on the assumption you are talking about artificial intelligence. If not, read no further. I wasn't. I was talking from an 'engineering pragmatism' point of view :) My iPhone's keyboard isn't sentient, yet it still manages a reasonable approx

Re: What is "Open Language"?

On 2015-10-26 18:06, Richard Gaskin wrote: The gap between understanding low-level data types, structures, frameworks, and APIs and being able to write in the lower-level language they were designed for is smaller than the gap between knowing only xTalk and having to learn to think in terms of lo

AW: show/hide or open/close stack. What is good practice?

Hi Jacque, thanks for your experience, good to know. Tiemo -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] Im Auftrag von J. Landman Gay Gesendet: Montag, 26. Oktober 2015 22:37 An: How to use LiveCode Betreff: Re: show/hide or open/close stack.