Re: Documentation [was: Re: v8 DP3]

On 2015-08-28 08:20, Richmond wrote: On 08/27/2015 11:39 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: On 8/27/2015 2:33 PM, Peter TB Brett wrote: Since it's so desperately in need of improvement, and you have such a good idea of how it can be made better, perhaps you could help out? I love UK understatement. As

Re: Documentation [was: Re: v8 DP3]

On 08/27/2015 11:39 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: On 8/27/2015 2:33 PM, Peter TB Brett wrote: Since it's so desperately in need of improvement, and you have such a good idea of how it can be made better, perhaps you could help out? I love UK understatement. As one of those rude Americans I would h

Re: Script Editor future (was Open Source Kickstarter Report Card)

On 08/27/2015 10:41 PM, Mike Bonner wrote: You did the obvious, and restarted LC after placing the plugin right? If you didn't restart lc, and you don't want to, an easy way to force a re-read of the plugins folder is to go into the plugin settings. You don't have to do anything, just going to

Re: Button Names on top of their icon?

If the image is the correct size for the button, you can assign it to the backgroundPattern (fill) instead of the icon. Paul > On Aug 27, 2015, at 21:22, Brahmanathaswami wrote: > > Is there some way to get a button name to be centered on top of it's icon? > > > This is a context where the i

Re: Button Names on top of their icon?

If you're using LC7, you should take a look at the iconGravity property. Dumb name (why not iconAlign?) but I think it should do what you're looking for. Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, UX/UI Design On 8/27/15, 9:22 PM, "Brahmanathaswami" wrote: >Is there some way to g

Button Names on top of their icon?

Is there some way to get a button name to be centered on top of it's icon? This is a context where the icon is designed to be a background for the button and the center area is clear, plain, flat colored and meant to take the button label. Of course can import the image and put a transparent

Re: Script Editor future (was Open Source Kickstarter Report Card)

It's showing up for me now, It's in my personal plugins folder but still doesn't show up in the Development Plugins list or the Plugin Settings list, maybe because the stack name begins with "rev"? It's hard to locate stuff in the plugin settings list since they don't seem to be in any particular

Re: Documentation [was: Re: v8 DP3]

On 8/27/2015 2:33 PM, Peter TB Brett wrote: Since it's so desperately in need of improvement, and you have such a good idea of how it can be made better, perhaps you could help out? I love UK understatement. As one of those rude Americans I would have said, "Okay Richmond, put your money where

Re: Script Editor future (was Open Source Kickstarter Report Card)

On 2015-08-27 21:30, Mike Bonner wrote: I got it to show up finally (7.0.6 on windows) I installed it in my personal plugins folder rather than the 7.0.6 plugins folder. On start of lc, still didn't show up, but went to plugin settings and set it to start when chosen from the plugins menu. Ch

Re: Script Editor future (was Open Source Kickstarter Report Card)

I got it to show up finally (7.0.6 on windows) I installed it in my personal plugins folder rather than the 7.0.6 plugins folder. On start of lc, still didn't show up, but went to plugin settings and set it to start when chosen from the plugins menu. Changed it from "invisible" to modeless. Restar

Re: Script Editor future (was Open Source Kickstarter Report Card)

Peter Haworth wrote: > It would of course be better if this was all built into the IDE script > editor but this is a great substitute until that happens. "Better" is nice, but "now" can be even nicer. :) Plugins are not only easily shared, but also self-contained, so they make a great way to ex

Re: Script Editor future (was Open Source Kickstarter Report Card)

I am having the same problem. The plugin doesn't load and it's not listed in the Plugins menu or in the Configure Plugins menu. This is with LC 6.6, and yes I did restart LC after installing it. I opened the plugin manually from the File Open menu and set it up to use the OSX Textmate editor. I

Re: Script Editor future (was Open Source Kickstarter Report Card)

You did the obvious, and restarted LC after placing the plugin right? If you didn't restart lc, and you don't want to, an easy way to force a re-read of the plugins folder is to go into the plugin settings. You don't have to do anything, just going to the settings dialog forced the re-read. On

Re: Documentation [was: Re: v8 DP3]

On 2015-08-27 08:12, Richmond wrote: On 08/27/2015 09:59 AM, Charles Warwick wrote: /I thought I'd just open up my text file using my //*external text editor*//(at which point one // // starts to wonder what the point of the Builder is)/ Both of those require questions, and at the risk of

Re: Script Editor future (was Open Source Kickstarter Report Card)

On 08/27/2015 09:02 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: Kay C Lan wrote: > On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 9:03 AM, RunRevPlanet wrote: > >> None of my comments are from the perspective that enabling LiveCode >> to use an external editor is a bad thing. > > So we agree then. As Richard said, choice is a good thin

Re: Script Editor future (was Open Source Kickstarter Report Card)

Kay C Lan wrote: > On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 9:03 AM, RunRevPlanet wrote: > >> None of my comments are from the perspective that enabling LiveCode >> to use an external editor is a bad thing. > > So we agree then. As Richard said, choice is a good thing. > >> More that for a cross platform IDE, wri

LC 8 discovery kudos

I had the following line for some reason in an existing stack: repeat while the mouse is up with messages and while this has worked in all previous incarnations of LiveCode, LC 8 threw an error into the message box about it. What I wanted was to allow system messages to happen while in a tight l

wrapping external dlls

Is it possible yet to use builder to wrap an external dll? If so, could someone point me at a hopefully simple example? Also, threading.. While I understand that in many cases multithreading can take some serious planning, But there are some instances where it would be great to just pop something

Re: screen readers

I still contend that Richmond is secretly paid by LC to keep list discussions "interesting". Of course as their paid minion, I would expect him to deny this. (tongue firmly in cheek) ;-) Phil On 8/27/15 2:36 AM, Graham Samuel wrote: Mark, thanks for that quick, comprehensive and clear reply

Re: v8 DP3

I'd spring for several and provide them to the local computer lab. (depending on price of course. Very limited funds) On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 10:31 AM, Earthednet-wp wrote: > Richmond, > I'll buy it too. I have a grandson who might get into it. Not to mention a > two sons who are elementary sch

Re: v8 DP3

Richmond, I'll buy it too. I have a grandson who might get into it. Not to mention a two sons who are elementary school teachers. Get on it! Bill William Prothero http://es.earthednet.org > On Aug 27, 2015, at 5:36 AM, Monte Goulding > wrote: > > >> On 27 Aug 2015, at 10:29 pm, Richmond wr

Re: Quick Challenge

On 08/27/2015 06:39 PM, Richmond wrote: Lots of clever answers . . . Now try with this text: Քրիստոնէութեան սկիզբը Հայոց համար եղաւ նաեւ մտքի լուսաւորութեան սկիզբնաւորութիւնը. Մեր մէջ առաջին դպրոցները Լուսաւորչի աշխատանքով հաստատուեցան: Սակայն Սուրբ Գրիգորի հիմնած դպրոցները ազգային կրթութեան

Re: Quick Challenge

Lots of clever answers . . . Now try with this text: Քրիստոնէութեան սկիզբը Հայոց համար եղաւ նաեւ մտքի լուսաւորութեան սկիզբնաւորութիւնը. Մեր մէջ առաջին դպրոցները Լուսաւորչի աշխատանքով հաստատուեցան: Սակայն Սուրբ Գրիգորի հիմնած դպրոցները ազգային կրթութեան համար չէին եւ չէին ալ կրնար ըլլալ, նախ ա

Re: Quick Challenge

COOL!!! I just learned a new thing! Thanks Mike. On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 11:15 AM, Mike Bonner wrote: > Rogers, using truewords > > on mouseUp >set the caseSensitive to true >put "Mary had a little LAMB. Its fleece was WHITE as cocaine. > Everywhere that > Mary went, she would shout,

Re: Quick Challenge

Rogers, using truewords on mouseUp set the caseSensitive to true put "Mary had a little LAMB. Its fleece was WHITE as cocaine. Everywhere that Mary went, she would shout, WINNING!" into tWords repeat for each trueword thisWord in tWords if thisWord is toUpper(thisWord) then put this

Re: Quick Challenge

Ah yes... I should think that's the fastest On Thursday, August 27, 2015, Colin Holgate wrote: > Almost typed fast enough to post the same answer! > > > > On Aug 27, 2015, at 10:47 AM, Malte Brill > wrote: > > > > Hi David, > > > > off the top of my head: > > > > function text_is_Caps pText

Re: Quick Challenge

A silly variation... on mouseUp set the caseSensitive to true put "Mary had a little LAMB. Its fleece was WHITE as cocaine. Everywhere that Mary went, she would shout, WINNING!" into tWords replace "." with empty in tWords replace "," with empty in tWords replace "!" with empty in t

Re: Quick Challenge

On 08/27/2015 05:39 PM, David Bovill wrote: So what's the quickest way to tell is a word is all caps in Livecode? I guess there are a lot of ways to skin a cat with this one. This is what I'm tinkering with: function text_IsCaps someText put "\b[A-Z]+\b" into someReg return matchtext (w

Re: Quick Challenge

Almost typed fast enough to post the same answer! > On Aug 27, 2015, at 10:47 AM, Malte Brill wrote: > > Hi David, > > off the top of my head: > > function text_is_Caps pText > set the caseSensitive to true > return pText = toUpper(pText) > end text_is_Caps > > Cheers, > > Malte > > >

Re: Quick Challenge

Hi David, off the top of my head: function text_is_Caps pText set the caseSensitive to true return pText = toUpper(pText) end text_is_Caps Cheers, Malte -- derbrill IT-service Malte Pfaff-Brill Alsenstr. 15, d-24768 Rendsburg Tel: +49 4331-337 640 0 eMail: i...@derbrill.de web: http://ww

Quick Challenge

So what's the quickest way to tell is a word is all caps in Livecode? I guess there are a lot of ways to skin a cat with this one. This is what I'm tinkering with: function text_IsCaps someText >put "\b[A-Z]+\b" into someReg >return matchtext (word 1 to -1 of someText, someReg, anyThing) >

Re: v8 DP3

> On 27 Aug 2015, at 10:29 pm, Richmond wrote: > > The only problem is that I am working my way towards using my teaching stuff > to > write a book called "LiveCode for Primary Kids". I’ll buy that as soon as it’s released. My son Matthew (9) is working his way through all the drag and drop

Re: v8 DP3

On 08/27/2015 03:02 PM, Roger Eller wrote: On Aug 27, 2015 3:13 AM, "Richmond" wrote: Aha. Well then the Documentation is awful as it makes none of these things clear. Over the last 40 years (cripes what a long time) I have yet to encounter any sort of computer programming manual that does

Re: v8 DP3

On Aug 27, 2015 3:13 AM, "Richmond" wrote: > > Aha. > > Well then the Documentation is awful as it makes none of these things clear. > > Over the last 40 years (cripes what a long time) I have yet to encounter any sort of computer programming manual > that doesn't assume the reader knows all sorts

Script Editor future (was Open Source Kickstarter Report Card)

Richmond said: > I would be most interested to see a > *coherent and numbered list* of > these "issues" rather than a chorus > of people saying how awful the > scriptEditor is. I put a numbered list of 10 issues (some with sub points) in the "Open Source Kickstarter Report Card" thread over

Re: screen readers

On 08/27/2015 01:09 PM, Mark Schonewille wrote: I thought it was the other way around: visually challenged for partially sighted and visually impaired for blind. As a non-native speaker of English, it doesn't mattering to me. I just copy what I read or hear without any emotions attached to the

Re: screen readers

I thought it was the other way around: visually challenged for partially sighted and visually impaired for blind. As a non-native speaker of English, it doesn't mattering to me. I just copy what I read or hear without any emotions attached to the words themselves. -- Kind regards, Mark Schonew

Re: Building from develop on OS X

Ah… specifically built the revXML target - which succeeded. Then ran development again and all was good :-) Not sure why that wasn’t getting built when building LiveCode-all target? Thanks Ali > On 27 Aug 2015, at 8:01 pm, Ali Lloyd wrote: > > Hmm, those errors suggest revXML hasn't built pro

Re: screen readers

One of the 'snags' with most screen readers is that they are NOT really screen readers at all, they are programs that read the content inwith windows of programs with which they are compatible. Until (?) someone develops a LiveCode-specific screen reader, what would be required is a reader

Re: Building from develop on OS X

Hmm, those errors suggest revXML hasn't built properly. If you specifically built the revXML target, does it appear to succeed? On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 10:26 AM Charles Warwick < char...@techstrategies.com.au> wrote: > Tried all of those, but still the same problems. > > I get an error that looks

Re: screen readers

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_screen_readers Richmond. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listin

Re: screen readers

Mark, thanks for that quick, comprehensive and clear reply. Graham PS In this particular context, I don’t want to be drawn into a discussion of the ‘political correctness’ of the terminology - so far, so un-Richmond-ish. > On 27 Aug 2015, at 09:52, Mark Schonewille > wrote: > > Graham, > >

Re: screen readers

On 08/27/2015 12:05 PM, Mark Schonewille wrote: Richmond, Not everybody who has eye problems is immediately blind. At least, not in my environment. I assumed you were using "visually challenged" as a euphemism for 'blind', and "visually impaired" for 'partially sighted'. Otherwise there wa

Re: Building from develop on OS X

Tried all of those, but still the same problems. I get an error that looks like this: https://www.dropbox.com/s/wng4xqzbivacyr1/livecode-develop-error.png?dl=0 Followed by another window saying: Error while loading sta

Re: screen readers

Richmond, Not everybody who has eye problems is immediately blind. At least, not in my environment. -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer KvK: 50277553 Installer Ma

Re: screen readers

On 08/27/2015 11:52 AM, Mark Schonewille wrote: Graham, A screen reader is software that allows visually challenged or visually impaired people Oh, Joy! There we are! to understand what is currently on their computer screen. It allows them to find the right control so they can press the

Re: screen readers

On 08/27/2015 11:29 AM, Graham Samuel wrote: I feel a bit Richmond-ish asking this (whether this is a good thing or a bad thing I leave as an exercise for the reader), but what is a screen reader in this context, and how and why has the very wide-ranging term ‘accessibility’ been hijacked in

Re: screen readers

Graham, A screen reader is software that allows visually challenged or visually impaired people to understand what is currently on their computer screen. It allows them to find the right control so they can press the return key or space bar to activate that control and it allows them to hear

Re: Script Editor future (was Open Source Kickstarter Report Card)

On 08/27/2015 10:49 AM, RunRevPlanet wrote: Kay C Lan said: > take the smart route and build adequate > text handling into their products but allow > integration with the industry leaders. One of the promoted strengths of LiveCode is that it is "live coding". In other words I can make a

Re: screen readers

I feel a bit Richmond-ish asking this (whether this is a good thing or a bad thing I leave as an exercise for the reader), but what is a screen reader in this context, and how and why has the very wide-ranging term ‘accessibility’ been hijacked in relation to it? I ask as an ignorant observer, b

Re: LiveCode meeting Nederland

Hallo, Komend weekend zal de laatste gelegenheid zijn om de vragenlijst in te vullen. Daarna zal worden besloten wanneer en waar de LiveCode-bijeenkomst plaats zal vinden. Denk erom dat jouw antwoord van invloed is op de beslissing! Laat me hier jouw voorkeuren weten: https://nl.surveymonkey.

Re: Script Editor future (was Open Source Kickstarter Report Card)

Kay C Lan said: > take the smart route and build adequate > text handling into their products but allow > integration with the industry leaders. One of the promoted strengths of LiveCode is that it is "live coding". In other words I can make a change in my script and immediately see the effect

Re: v8 DP3

On 08/27/2015 09:59 AM, Charles Warwick wrote: /I thought I'd just open up my text file using my //*external text editor*//(at which point one // // starts to wonder what the point of the Builder is)/ Both of those require questions, and at the risk of being a bore, I'll reiterate them: 1

open printing CRASH

Hello. I am printing a stack in a windows standalone. I do "open printing with dialog", and it's all fine. If I run it again, it crashes the app. If I run "open printing" (without the "with dialog") on the second try, it doesn't crash and it prints just fine. Only happens on Windows, Mac is

Re: v8 DP3

I've created a snippet for the Atom editor to make creating .lcb files a little easier In Atom (you need to have Peters packages installed first) Go File>Open Your Snippets Add the following to the file '.source.iRev, .source.lcb': 'lcbtemplate': 'prefix': 'lcbt' 'body': '-- declarin

Re: v8 DP3

> > /I thought I'd just open up my text file using my //*external text > editor*//(at which point one // > // starts to wonder what the point of the Builder is)/ > > Both of those require questions, and at the risk of being a bore, I'll > reiterate them: > > 1. Why should there be recourse