I still contend that Richmond is secretly paid by LC to keep list discussions "interesting". Of course as their paid minion, I would expect him to deny this.

(tongue firmly in cheek)
;-)

Phil


On 8/27/15 2:36 AM, Graham Samuel wrote:
Mark, thanks for that quick, comprehensive and clear reply.

Graham

PS In this particular context, I don’t want to be drawn into a discussion of 
the ‘political correctness’ of the terminology - so far, so un-Richmond-ish.

On 27 Aug 2015, at 09:52, Mark Schonewille <m.schonewi...@economy-x-talk.com> 
wrote:

Graham,

A screen reader is software that allows visually challenged or visually impaired people 
to understand what is currently on their computer screen. It allows them to find the 
right control so they can press the return key or space bar to activate that control and 
it allows them to hear text that is displayed on the screen. A very well-known screen 
reader is JAWS but there are quite a few other commercial and open-source screen readers 
available. I believe the term "accessibility" is most appropriate in this 
matter.

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On 8/27/2015 10:29, Graham Samuel wrote:
I feel a bit Richmond-ish asking this (whether this is a good thing or a bad 
thing I leave as an exercise for the reader), but what is a screen reader in 
this context, and how and why has the very wide-ranging term ‘accessibility’ 
been hijacked in relation to it? I ask as an ignorant observer, but you never 
know, I might one day want to follow the path that Phil is taking (so far 
unsuccessfully, but probably it will be made to work in time).

I suppose I’m getting too old to keep up with all this, but if anyone has a 
moment to explain, I’d be grateful.

Graham

On 26 Aug 2015, at 20:04, Phil Davis <rev...@pdslabs.net> wrote:

Has anyone been able to make desktop stacks work with screen readers? I'm experimenting 
with the Mac's VoiceOver utility (included with OS X), and VO doesn't know how to 
interact with a stack - it identifies the window as "unknown" and doesn't allow 
you to interact with its elements/objects.

Thanks for any tips or insights you can share any tips from your experience.

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