Re: Open Source Kickstarter Report Card

> On 16 Aug 2015, at 07:42, Kay C Lan wrote: > > I thought THE objective of the KickStarter Campaign was to make LC Open > Source and Free to the Community. Wasn't that achieved? Everything else was > just secondary but in support of that goal. Can you give us your opinion as to why LC was mad

Re: Open Source Kickstarter Report Card

On Fri, Aug 14, 2015 at 6:31 PM, Peter W A Wood wrote: > > There seems to have been three major deliverables promised in the main > campaign: > > Re-engineer the whole platform > A new technology: “Open Language” > A new visual editor > I thought THE objective of the KickStarter Campaign was to

Re: Get Modification Date of a Single File

On Wed, Aug 12, 2015 at 10:17 AM, Brahmanathaswami wrote: > can we check the modification date of a single file? > > use case: mobile; get date of local file resource; ping LC server check on > mod date of the same resource, if latter is younger, then fetch it > > Sorry, can't help with mobile bu

Re: Business Application Framework

On Fri, Aug 14, 2015 at 8:12 PM, Roger Eller wrote: > Not contributing time and code does not necessarily make one a leech! Many > of us contributed monetarily to the kickstarter, and I believe that earns > us just as many beech points as anybody. > Absolutely. Everyone who posts here helping

Re: Business Application Framework

> On 16 Aug 2015, at 10:37 am, Dr. Hawkins wrote: > > Yes, but the script still needs a way to distinguish which changes happen > from "normal use", and which from redesign, doesn't it? Clicking a > property seems to be at least as easy as setting a behavior . . . > > In my case, I might have

Re: iCalendar [.ics file] Open Source Lib for LiveCode

On 16/08/2015 01:50, Alex Tweedly wrote: I missed sending it ;-) It's at tweedly.org/downloads/icsLib_1_0.zip (contains the library, a demo and test stack, some test data, ...) Note that's an OLD file - ignore anything it might say in there about licensing; license will be more permissi

Re: iCalendar [.ics file] Open Source Lib for LiveCode

I missed sending it ;-) It's at tweedly.org/downloads/icsLib_1_0.zip (contains the library, a demo and test stack, some test data, ...) Note that's an OLD file - ignore anything it might say in there about licensing; license will be more permissive (most likely MIT) rather than commercial

Re: Business Application Framework

On Sat, Aug 15, 2015 at 3:56 PM, Monte Goulding wrote: > You give them a script. Yes, but the script still needs a way to distinguish which changes happen from "normal use", and which from redesign, doesn't it? Clicking a property seems to be at least as easy as setting a behavior . . . In my

Re: Business Application Framework

I'm still trying to grasp the advantage of BAF, since I'm guessing I'm in the target audience. Then, again, maybe not, since I still haven't gotten an email about it from Mildred et al. On Sat, Aug 15, 2015 at 6:56 PM, Monte Goulding wrote: > > > On 16 Aug 2015, at 8:51 am, Dr. Hawkins wrote:

Re: Button does not receive mouseUP after disabling then enabling button

The issue you are seeing *MAY* be related to a bug I verified and reported last week. See http://quality.runrev.com/show_bug.cgi?id=15710 Under LC6.7.x or 7.x under OSX version where the "Search" menu item is inserted into Help menu, if you disable the button that is the Help menu and then enable

Re: Business Application Framework

> On 16 Aug 2015, at 8:51 am, Dr. Hawkins wrote: > > But how would objects know whether or not to do this in less you set > properties in them, anyway, or gave them a script? You give them a script. In my case you handle the lcVCSExport message if you need to do anything. In practice I usuall

Re: Business Application Framework

On Sat, Aug 15, 2015 at 3:51 PM, Dr. Hawkins wrote: > I didn't include the vcIgnoreProperites , either. > Nor explain it, it seems:-) This would cause all of the "common suspects " to not be included in a revision -- Dr. Richard E. Hawkins, Esq. (702) 508-8462 __

Re: Business Application Framework

On Sat, Aug 15, 2015 at 2:17 PM, Monte Goulding wrote: > This is one of the curly issues. I personally can’t imagine the tedium of > having to set a default property for half the properties of every object. > It becomes routine; I'm building forms. I have several button that loop through to se

LiveCode meeting Nederland

Hallo LiveCoders, Over enkele weken zal ik weer een bijeenkomst in Nederland organiseren. Om te peilen hoeveel belangstelling er is en waarin potentiële deelnemers geïnteresseerd zijn, heb ik een korte vragenlijst gemaakt. Het invullen van deze vragenlijst duurt maximaal 5 minuten. Je kunt de v

Re: mouse pointer hot spot is way off

Didn’t work a when it came up again. I must have done something else. > On Aug 15, 2015, at 4:12 PM, Dar Scott wrote: > > I think I tried what you said. And afterward things are better. > > In the message box I put > set the cursor to watch > then > set the cursor to arrow > > I went back

Re: mouse pointer hot spot is way off

I think I tried what you said. And afterward things are better. In the message box I put set the cursor to watch then set the cursor to arrow I went back to the editor and it was working right. Maybe I did something else, so I’ll have to see if this routine keeps working when this comes up.

Re: mouse pointer hot spot is way off

Now the editor is acting up and I’m getting about 8, -61 in that corner. My situation is the same as Richards. It is a fixed vertical offset throughout the time of misbehavior, but I’m not sure whether that fixed amount changes a little from episode to episode or from stack to stack. For m

Re: Button does not receive mouseUP after disabling then enabling button

Hi I found another way to resolve it that works in the sample stack and in my application. Reading about the wait command in the dictionary I saw you can also use send in time to give LiveCode a chance to process messages. If I use send in time for both "setState off" and "setState on" then I c

Re: Business Application Framework

> On 16 Aug 2015, at 1:16 am, Dr. Hawkins wrote: > > Along with their customPropertySet, there could be a "vcsIgnoresSet", or a > group of properties of vcsIgnoresPosition, vcsIgnoresHilite, > vcsIgnoresText, vcsIgnoresVis, vcsIgnoresSize. There could be a vcsIgnore > checkbook on custom proper

Re: How to minimize delay when playing an audio clip

Thanks for the suggestion, 2 things on the list to try now. On Sat, Aug 15, 2015 at 3:17 PM, Scott Rossi wrote: > In the past, it used to be that imported audioClips would generally start > playing with less lag than players. I haven't done tests with any of the > recent versions of LC to see i

Re: Downloaded stacks on iOS

> On 15 Aug 2015, at 11:45 pm, Colin Holgate wrote: > > That brings up the possibility of having a non-Javascript stack app loading a > browser control with an HTML5 based stack that is online. Yes that would be perfectly fine I think and synonymous with what they are doing. _

Re: How to minimize delay when playing an audio clip

In the past, it used to be that imported audioClips would generally start playing with less lag than players. I haven't done tests with any of the recent versions of LC to see if this holds true (sounds like it doesn't?). In any event, I've never done this, but you might try using an imported vid

Re: Button does not receive mouseUP after disabling then enabling button

Hi Peter Thanks for replying on a Saturday. The platform is Mac OS X 10.8.5 and using LC 6.7.3 I will try it in LC 7 to see if it is there too then post a bug. Martin -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Button-does-not-receive-mouseUP-after-disabl

Re: mouse pointer hot spot is way off

On Sat, Aug 15, 2015 at 1:04 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: > That might be a clue. Retina screens have a different resolution. Maybe > the engine's calcs are off. > When this bites, the error is a fixed amount. Move the mouse three dots down, and the point it clicks seems to be three down. It also

Re: How to minimize delay when playing an audio clip

great idea, thanks. I've clipped the file down to just what I need so its pretty tiny. I'll give it a shot! On Sat, Aug 15, 2015 at 2:30 PM, Simon wrote: > Hi Mike, > In a Pong game I made I dumped .mp3 directly into global variables. Then > "play gBatCollision" > I had no delay problems. > But

Re: Button does not receive mouseUP after disabling then enabling button

Will it work for now if you disable target at the beginning of your startMyProcess script and enable it at the end of that script? be well, randy Randy Hengst www.classroomFocusedSoftware.com > On Aug 15, 2015, at 3:44 PM, Martin Koob wrote: > > Hi Randy > > I put the send "set state on" to

Re: Button does not receive mouseUP after disabling then enabling button

On 2015-08-15 20:45, Martin Koob wrote: I have a button that when the user clicks it it needs to be disabled till a process that the mouseUp started is done then it is re-enabled once the process is done and the user should be able to click it again. The problem I am encountering is that once t

Re: Button does not receive mouseUP after disabling then enabling button

Hi Randy I put the send "set state on" to me in 3 seconds in order to replicate what was happening in my application in a simple stack to see if the issue would happen with simple commands in one button and it did. What actually happens in the application is that a command is sent then a callback

Re: mouse pointer hot spot is way off

I don’t have the retina for Retina. My Mac’s don’t have it. So, in my case, that is not a factor. I tried to make a mouseMove test. Unfortunately, I did something that fixed it. I’m not sure, but I think the first mouseMove message fixed it. But, it could have been random or the recompilin

Re: Button does not receive mouseUP after disabling then enabling button

Hi Randy Your suggestion resolves the issue with my sample script but trying adding the wait with messages in my application does not resolve the issue. I tried the command>option>click in my application and it opens the card script as well so it appears that the button still appears disabled ti

Re: How to minimize delay when playing an audio clip

Hi Mike, In a Pong game I made I dumped .mp3 directly into global variables. Then "play gBatCollision" I had no delay problems. But if your audio clip is very long you might not want to do this. Simon -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/How-to-minim

Re: text files as stacks

Thanks! On Sat, Aug 15, 2015 at 2:32 PM, Peter TB Brett wrote: > On 2015-08-15 19:34, Mike Bonner wrote: > >> Could someone point me towards information on using text files as stacks? >> Specifically structure requirements? >> >> I suck at getting useful info from the forum search. >> > > https:

Re: mouse pointer hot spot is way off

I have a stack that’s doing it. The mouseLoc is like 1, 2, essentially 0,0, in that corner. For the editor I get something like 27,-9 (menu?), but I’m not currently having trouble with the editor. In the stack that has trouble, I have to click well below an option menu, but I select normall

Re: Button does not receive mouseUP after disabling then enabling button

Another way that might work. Is this safe, or are there cases where it will restart the handler before "doSomething" completes? on mouseUp disable me send "doSomething" to me -- should wait till "doSomething" finishes enable me end mouseUp command doSomething wait 3 seconds with mess

Re: text files as stacks

On 2015-08-15 19:34, Mike Bonner wrote: Could someone point me towards information on using text files as stacks? Specifically structure requirements? I suck at getting useful info from the forum search. https://www.mail-archive.com/use-livecode@lists.runrev.com/msg61558.html

Re: mySQL: PHP or direct access?

On 2015-08-15 18:30, Peter Haworth wrote: Excellent, thank you Peter. Had not had a chance to look at the release notes for those two versions yet. It doesn't look like the referenced bug report 14289 has been updated to reflect this. Couple of follow up questions. Has the sqlite user authe

Re: Button does not receive mouseUP after disabling then enabling button

Hi Mike Thanks for checking this. I should have added I am working on a Mac, OS X 10.8.5. maybe it is a Mac thing. Martin -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Button-does-not-receive-mouseUP-after-disabling-then-enabling-button-tp4695119p4695123.h

Re: Button does not receive mouseUP after disabling then enabling button

Martin, I’m using LC 6.7.5 on Mac OSX 10.2 and can duplicate your observations. A couple other things… if at your step 3 you use an command>option>click on the button (to see the script) it shows the script of the card. And if you change your button script to this… it works fine. on mouseUp

Re: mouse pointer hot spot is way off

A quick test here looks ok, just as precise on my internal Retina screen and my external non-Retina monitor. One thing you could try is to Get Info on LiveCode, and check the box that says Open in Low Resolution. See if that changes anything. > On Aug 15, 2015, at 4:04 PM, J. Landman Gay wrot

Re: Button does not receive mouseUP after disabling then enabling button

Cant duplicate it (on 6.7.4,don't have 6.7.3) windows 10. Its working as expected for me. On Sat, Aug 15, 2015 at 1:45 PM, Martin Koob wrote: > I have a button that when the user clicks it it needs to be disabled till a > process that the mouseUp started is done then it is re-enabled once the >

Re: mouse pointer hot spot is way off

On 8/15/2015 2:25 PM, Dr. Hawkins wrote: On Sat, Aug 15, 2015 at 8:58 AM, J. Landman Gay wrote: I haven't seen it yet. Are those who have seen it using a third-party mouse? I usually see it on the internal trackpad of a macbook retina That might be a clue. Retina screens have a different

Button does not receive mouseUP after disabling then enabling button

I have a button that when the user clicks it it needs to be disabled till a process that the mouseUp started is done then it is re-enabled once the process is done and the user should be able to click it again. The problem I am encountering is that once the button is re-enabled if the mouse has

Re: Bug getting group name, plse check

Hi Bill, If you can send me a list of words and connected issues that you would like to be able to search for in the index, I'll consider adding them in the book I'm currently writing or in any future publications. -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Eng

Re: mouse pointer hot spot is way off

On Sat, Aug 15, 2015 at 8:58 AM, J. Landman Gay wrote: > I haven't seen it yet. Are those who have seen it using a third-party > mouse? I usually see it on the internal trackpad of a macbook retina -- Dr. Richard E. Hawkins, Esq. (702) 508-8462 __

Re: How to minimize delay when playing an audio clip

Nevermind. Can't make it work. Setting the playloudness works globally, whether sounds are currently active or not, but setting audioclip loudness only works while the clip is NOT playing. Player object, here I come. Sorry for talking to myself here. Back down the rabbit hole. On Sat, Aug 15, 2

Re: Bug getting group name, plse check

Richard: This is an example of how difficult it can be to find docs on an operation that isn’t commonly used and that doesn’t have “obvious” syntax. Even the livecode books by Mark Schonewill and Colin don’t allow for finding this kind of information, especially in the index. If the contents of

Re: How to minimize delay when playing an audio clip

DOH. NEvermind. Use the ID of the clip. Reading the dictionary. A useful skill I need to develop On Sat, Aug 15, 2015 at 12:37 PM, Mike Bonner wrote: > Found a method that works with audioclips, as long as I only need to play > 1. Rather than starting and stopping it, I set the playloudness t

Re: How to minimize delay when playing an audio clip

Found a method that works with audioclips, as long as I only need to play 1. Rather than starting and stopping it, I set the playloudness to 0 or 100 and just leave it looping. (it doesn't appear that the playloudness can be set for individual clips.) Will try with players instead since using onl

text files as stacks

Could someone point me towards information on using text files as stacks? Specifically structure requirements? I suck at getting useful info from the forum search. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subsc

Re: mouse pointer hot spot is way off

In addition to the tests that Mike suggested, it would be interesting to see what you get back if you ask for the mouseloc in the message box when you see the problem. Put the cursor up near the 0,0 point of the editor so you have a visual reference. I do like the term "Gatsby bug." :) On 8/

Re: Restore corrupted stack

On 8/14/2015 11:12 PM, Peter Bogdanoff wrote: Yes, I understand the change in stack format. Unfortunately the stack won’t open in any version of LC 7. I always get the stack corrupted dialog. In that case I think the team would like to see the stack, so it's probably time for a bug report. -

How to minimize delay when playing an audio clip

I have an audio clip that I'm using as a sound effect. I try to trigger the play start FIRST in my game loop, but no matter what methods I try (even breaking it out of the game loop itself) there is a pretty hefty lag time before it starts playing. Enough so that its possible to have an event hap

Re: mySQL: PHP or direct access?

Excellent, thank you Peter. Had not had a chance to look at the release notes for those two versions yet. It doesn't look like the referenced bug report 14289 has been updated to reflect this. Couple of follow up questions. Has the sqlite user authentication module been enabled in this version

Re: mouse pointer hot spot is way off

makes me wonder.. There are several ways the cursor can change shape while in use. I wonder if the ball gets dropped somewhere along the way. I've seen my cursor get stuck occasionally in the "pane resize" mode, though I can't reliably reproduce it. When this occurs its nearly always in the editor

Re: mouse pointer hot spot is way off

It doesn’t feel like a 3rd party mouse issue to me, but that is only because the problem is limited to LiveCode stack content. (I have a Macally EcoMouse hooked up at the moment.) This occurs in the content of some LiveCode windows. I don’t think I’ve ever seen it outside of that. It most

Re: Bug getting group name, plse check

Richard: Hmm…. Thought I tried that. But, I tried it again and it worked. Thanks for the info. put the short name of the owner of me into tGroup —works fine. Best, Bill > On Aug 14, 2015, at 5:28 PM, Richard Gaskin > wrote: > > William Prothero wrote: > > > “the long name of me” is a complet

Re: mouse pointer hot spot is way off

If its a bluetooth mouse, you might disconnect, and reconnect it and see if the problem goes away. Or try a wired mouse for a bit and see if it works better. I think I also read somewhere that turning off wifi for a min, then back on can reset the connection to a bluetooth mouse. (some shared hard

Re: mouse pointer hot spot is way off

On August 15, 2015 9:58:45 AM CDT, "Dr. Hawkins" wrote: >On Sat, Aug 15, 2015 at 7:37 AM, Dar Scott wrote: > >> Very often the hot spot is off, usually about 50-100 pixels high, for >one >> or more windows in the IDE. I usually notice it in the editor where >it is >> off by 3 lines. Almost alwa

git resources

To avoid repeating myself, here's a link from the web forum to some git resources. http://forums.livecode.com/viewtopic.php?f=66&t=19526 -- Mark Wieder ahsoftw...@gmail.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit th

Re: mySQL: PHP or direct access?

On Fri, Aug 14, 2015 at 4:50 PM, Monte Goulding wrote: > I believe Mark Wieder had a good look at revDB and decided to stop looking > ;-) Was it Mark that warned me off a few weeks ago when I wanted to add a couple of lines to enable ssl for postgres? -- Dr. Richard E. Hawkins, Esq. (702) 5

Re: Business Application Framework

On Fri, Aug 14, 2015 at 1:46 PM, Monte Goulding wrote: > As far as lcVCS goes I actually think it would be good better if we could > work with Mark and Peter to get the file format into the engine. It really is insane that it isn't built in Along with their customPropertySet, there could be a

Re: mouse pointer hot spot is way off

On Sat, Aug 15, 2015 at 7:37 AM, Dar Scott wrote: > Very often the hot spot is off, usually about 50-100 pixels high, for one > or more windows in the IDE. I usually notice it in the editor where it is > off by 3 lines. Almost always it is just vertical. > I see this on a regular basis in 7.

mouse pointer hot spot is way off

Hi, I’m an old-timer who has been away from the list for a while. I’ve run into a problem and I think it is a LiveCode problem but it might be an OS X problem or some combination. I’m using 6.7.5. Very often the hot spot is off, usually about 50-100 pixels high, for one or more windows in

Re: Business Application Framework

Hi All! I'd second what Graham and Jacqueline shared. My version control system is, "Save as..." and the corresponding file creation dates. I would be interested in learning more about versions control and tracking, though LiveCode development is not my primary job. (My primary job is K8 educat

Re: Open Source Kickstarter Report Card

Peter W A Wood wrote > Reworked Multimedia Support > New Player Completed on OS X. > Windows/Linux ??? > > I’d appreciate if somebody could let me know the status of the items about > which I’m unclear and any mistakes I have made. Hi Peter. Thanks

Re: Downloaded stacks on iOS

That brings up the possibility of having a non-Javascript stack app loading a browser control with an HTML5 based stack that is online. > On Aug 14, 2015, at 11:16 PM, Monte Goulding > wrote: > > It's not vague at all. It's right there in the article and the only way these > guys can do what

Re: iCalendar [.ics file] Open Source Lib for LiveCode

Where is your library I missed the Link Swasti Astu, Be Well Brahmanathaswami www.himalayanacademy.com > On Aug 14, 2015, at 9:56 PM, Alex Tweedly wrote: > > However, vObjectLib has very little to help with correctly interpreting .ics > files - so if you need to deal with > - multiple time zo

Re: mySQL: PHP or direct access?

On 2015-08-14 23:31, Peter Haworth wrote: The SQLite library supplied with LC is months old, and a large number of bug fixes and several useful enhancements are missing. In LiveCode 6.7.7-rc-2 and LiveCode 7.1.0-rc-1, we provide libSQLite 3.8.10.2, released on 2015-05-20.

Re: iCalendar [.ics file] Open Source Lib for LiveCode

Yes, vObjectLib is great, has many functions that help with reading and correctly writing .ics files. I wish I had remembered vObjectLib and based my library on top of it :-( (btw - it is still publicly available at http://fon.nu/vobjectlib unles