On Fri, Aug 14, 2015 at 8:12 PM, Roger Eller <roger.e.el...@sealedair.com> wrote:
> Not contributing time and code does not necessarily make one a leech! Many > of us contributed monetarily to the kickstarter, and I believe that earns > us just as many beech points as anybody. > Absolutely. Everyone who posts here helping others who have problems with LC are productive members of the community - I'm amazed at the time some people put in and am thankful for every single one of them. 'Constructive' criticism too is an essential element of a community if it isn't going to stagnate, wallow and die in complacency. In this regard I have added the odd bug report or enhancement request to QQC - and note how rapidly the mothership responds. To me I rationalize that it's my way to help contribute to the engine because I certainly don't have the ability to contribute code. Yet how often do we hear complaints that something is broken but the poster has not submitted a bug report? Or how few have responded to the repeated request to check that your OLD bugs still appear in current version of LC and if they don't REMOVE the bug report so the db can be cleaned up and the Team can focus on relevant work. Yes, if you've contributed financially you deserve to get what you've paid for. I pay taxes in two countries. One has socialist leanings and has a dole system. If I were to ever become unemployed in that country I would expect to be 'covered' to the extent that the law provides based on the fact that I'm a tax paying law abiding citizen. I persuaded the CFO to contribute to the KickStarter campaign and as far as I'm concerned I got what was paid for. The KickStarter campaign was to bring LC Open Source; has that not been achieved? Yes, there are some goals that have yet to materialise but I've never seen anything to suggest that VCS or Git support or a Business Framework was one of them. I have not seen any counter argument to my MySQL example; what it's OK for them but not for LC to differentiate between dual license versions? Everyone should be able to have input, IMHO. > Absolutely agree, especially when that input is constructive. I didn't intend to mean that people shouldn't post, my comments were pointed towards the selfish attitude of I am entitled to this or that and 'someone else' should pay/work to make it happen. I don't see how people can't appreciate the gift they have been given, it's like those youtube videos of the teenager whose just been give a brand new convertible car for their birthday and they have a tantrum because it's the wrong colour - https://www .youtube.com/watch?v=-JvtlB_NzI8 If you think her complaint is valid.... then I guess it must be a cultural thing and I'm sorry if I disapprove of such an attitude and that this offends you. Since LC went OSS it costs me A LOT less to own, compared to all the years when it was Runtime Revolution, and it is a significantly better product and just keeps getting better. Thank you Team!!! Again, from my perspective, of all the communities I've ever been a part of, it always the same, there is a microscopically small number of dedicated Richards, Montes, Marks, Peters and Jacques who are in the trenches day in day out and drive the work forward in the most amazing way. Very few complaints from them, just constructive criticisms. There are the masses of sheep who just happily get herded along in whatever direction the community heads. And then there are the complainers, who sit on high, on a horse if you must, or in their ivory tower, unhappy with the colour, or that the work isn't being done fast enough, or their particular pet project isn't being worked on, but they themselves, although the shovels are free, don't ever seem to pick one up and actually step into the trench. In fact I'll stick my head out even further and say that generally these people will stay on their horses and tell everyone in the trenches that the flood waters are rising and they need to work faster filling sand bags, and disaster is looming and the levee is going to break but they will not get down and help fill sand bags. And when the levee breaks they'll stand back and say 'I told you so.' Completely unable to see that they themselves were part of the reason for the failure. * But then again, if you are saying that everyone should be able to complain, then I guess you are agree with me that I have every right to complain about the complainers;-) "I think all right-thinking people in this country are sick and tired of being told that ordinary, decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I'm certainly not! And I'm sick and tired of being told that I am". the late great Graham Chapman. 2 hr posting : 0 lines of Engine/OSS code added : 0 bug/enhancement reports to QQC this week. * I have an hypothesis that there is a definable ratio between workers : complainers that can accurately predict whether an OSS project will succeed. If a community was made up solely of teenagers like the one in the video, I predict it would fail, miserably. _______________________________________________ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
